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IGT 06/20- MIA at NYM - Holiday Fun

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2022 10:42 AM

Trevor Rogers looks to break the heart of his cousin Steve J.



Mets counter with the incomparable David Peterson.

kcmets
Jun 20 2022 10:50 AM
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Hoy es la 20th...

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 10:50 AM
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I can compare him to any number of things, but in honor of the day, let us compare him to a summer's day, lovely and more temperate. Later on in this summer's day, we may be comparing him to other things.

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2022 10:51 AM
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Two lefthanded starting pitchers, and a whole phalanx of righthanded batters.




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Edgy MD
Jun 20 2022 11:11 AM
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Pete Alonso to Keith Hernandez: "You just have to stay in that mano y mano mindset."



Fun to hear two guys with Spanish names who butcher their Spanish.

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 11:14 AM
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E-5 to start the day. Escobar's 7th of the season. Seems a lot?

MFS62
Jun 20 2022 11:21 AM
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=roger_that post_id=96716 time=1655745298 user_id=128]
E-5 to start the day. Escobar's 7th of the season. Seems a lot?



Slugging prospect Mark Vientos has 9 errors in 36 games playing third base and one error in nine games playing first. I don't follow anyone else's errors.



Later

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 11:23 AM
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Nimmo leads off with a loud double, very possibly could have taken third, decided not to.

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 11:27 AM
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Marte and Lindor both beat out infield grounders. Polar Bear up with bases loaded.

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 11:28 AM
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I never understand why players turn their heads to see the fielders on infield squibbers. Can't be recommended sprinting style, is it?

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 11:30 AM
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If we don't get at least six runs this inning, I am going to be disappointed.

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 11:31 AM
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Alonso fouls off ball 4, Ks on a strike up and on the outside edge.

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2022 11:33 AM
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Pete showed a good eye, there, but Cahna might be the guy I really want up here.

Frayed Knot
Jun 20 2022 11:37 AM
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=roger_that post_id=96722 time=1655746275 user_id=128]
Alonso fouls off ball 4, Ks on a strike up and on the outside edge.



That foul off could have, I'd say should have, been a strike.

Good foul off iow.

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2022 11:37 AM
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Davis and Alonso leaving money on the table.

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 11:39 AM
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One lousy run is all we get out of Pete batting 3-2, bases loaded, no out?



It is questionable whether that outcome is, in fact, better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 20 2022 11:42 AM
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And a pair of banjo hits and the Marlins are in bizness.



But bizness is closed for the holiday.

Frayed Knot
Jun 20 2022 11:44 AM
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Aside from that little grand slam thing yesterday, do the Marlins have a Non-cheap hit in this whole series?

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 11:46 AM
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And, Mrs. Lincoln, let me ask a followup question....

Frayed Knot
Jun 20 2022 11:52 AM
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Marlins counter our bags loaded/no outs/one run disappointment with their own 1st & 2nd/no outs/Zero runs

effort.





btw, the average # of runs scored in an inning starting with bases loaded/no outs generally hovers around 2.5

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 11:53 AM
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And how does that figure vary when Pete Alonso bats? Up or down, would you suppose?

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 12:01 PM
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Another infield hit for the Marlins! A true Baltimore chop. Nothing to be done, though Peterson gave it a shot.

MFS62
Jun 20 2022 12:07 PM
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=roger_that post_id=96737 time=1655748083 user_id=128]
Another infield hit for the Marlins! A true Baltimore chop. Nothing to be done, though Peterson gave it a shot.



Pesky, those (g)Nats.



Later

Frayed Knot
Jun 20 2022 12:15 PM
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=roger_that post_id=96736 time=1655747585 user_id=128]
And how does that figure vary when Pete Alonso bats? Up or down, would you suppose?



Pete, and probably all batters with above-100 OPS+, figures to drive that average upward over the long haul.

Not enough to send up near six runs expected, but marginally higher.

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 12:27 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

Not enough to send up near six runs expected, but marginally higher.


You are not accounting for the crazed and greedy rooter factor.

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2022 12:34 PM
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I'd like to cordially invite Major League Baseball to play Jeff McNeil to pull all year.

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 12:35 PM
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Mr. Squirrel takes second base on a bonehead throw to 3b

roger_that
Jun 20 2022 12:37 PM
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Now Squirrel beats the pitcher to home plate to steal a run



"Squirrel" is one of the longest words in the English language (8 letters) that can be pronounced in a single syllable. "Squelched" at 9 has it beat. Most folks make it two syllables, but it's a judgment call.

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2022 12:40 PM
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Three runs:
[list]

  • [*]The first on a bases-loaded walk where Cahna had already swung at what should have been ball four;

  • [*]The second on pretty short sacrifice fly;

  • [*]The third on a wild pitch to the ninth-place hitter.
    • [/list]

    Not the most auspicious level of performance but I'll take it.



    Hey, McNeil's out of the game!!

    roger_that
    Jun 20 2022 12:42 PM
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    Hammy?

    TransMonk
    Jun 20 2022 12:43 PM
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    That's what I thought.

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 12:44 PM
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    So he got to 1st cuz the Marlins were over-shifting

    Got to 2nd cuz the LF threw to the wrong base (even though his SS was telling him exactly where to go)

    Got to 3rd cuz there was no cut-off man to freeze him on the throw home

    And went home when the pitcher was slow to cover the plate





    Bad Fundies!!

    ashie62
    Jun 20 2022 12:53 PM
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    David Peterson, that's what I'm talking about!

    roger_that
    Jun 20 2022 12:54 PM
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    =TransMonk post_id=96752 time=1655750625 user_id=71]
    That's what I thought.



    I guess it will depend on how far along the 90 feet it happened. If he just took a step or two on it, that's one thing, but if he ran hard for 80 feet on a pulled hamstring, he could be out for a while.

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 12:54 PM
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    Aside from needing about six innings worth of pitches to get through five innings -- some of it his own doing, some of it bad ju-,ju -- Peterson's got a nice little game going here.

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 01:06 PM
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    Four runs, zero run scoring hits [Bases Loaded Walk, Sac Fly, Wild Pitch, Sac Fly]

    MFS62
    Jun 20 2022 01:18 PM
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    Frayed Knot wrote:

    Aside from needing about six innings worth of pitches to get through five innings -- some of it his own doing, some of it bad ju-,ju -- Peterson's got a nice little game going here.


    He's up to 100 pitches.

    Is there warmup action in the bullpen? (I'm working, and following the game on my PC)



    Later

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 01:24 PM
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    =roger_that post_id=96755 time=1655751265 user_id=128]
    =TransMonk post_id=96752 time=1655750625 user_id=71]
    That's what I thought.



    I guess it will depend on how far along the 90 feet it happened. If he just took a step or two on it, that's one thing, but if he ran hard for 80 feet on a pulled hamstring, he could be out for a while.


    It looked like he pulled up slightly the last 20 feet or so. He was under little power from that point and just let momentum carry him across the plate.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 01:27 PM
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    Astrology Keith is one of the weirder versions of Keith.

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 01:32 PM
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    Yeah, two guys discussing astrology who appear to know little about astrology and likely even less about astronomy.

    kcmets
    Jun 20 2022 01:32 PM
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    I'm only watching with half an eye and one ear. Have they given a

    McNutty update? Hoping crampy, not hammy.

    kcmets
    Jun 20 2022 01:41 PM
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    Those are geese, Gary. Canadian geese.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 01:43 PM
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    Not to make a thing of a nothing, but Ottavino has gotten his five outs on 18 pitches.



    I stick wit'm.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 01:45 PM
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    This is almost like the Marlins are beating themselves 4-0.

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 01:46 PM
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    I guess if your name is Bass you'll have a tendency to throw low.

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 01:49 PM
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    Mets finally hit into a GiDP on their third try that inning.

    roger_that
    Jun 20 2022 02:00 PM
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    Those are geese, Gary. Canadian geese.

    We Canadians prefer the nomenclature "Canada goose" if you don't mind, please. From Wikipedia: "The Canada goose is also colloquially referred to as the "Canadian goose". This name may annoy some birders."

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 02:01 PM
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    I prefer Canada Dry

    kcmets
    Jun 20 2022 02:03 PM
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    There were a half dozen geese, not a solitary goose. And the point was to

    tell Gary they weren't ducks lol...

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 02:04 PM
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    J.D. is not looking good.

    roger_that
    Jun 20 2022 02:04 PM
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    Drink Canada Dry is an advertising slogan, not a recommendation.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 02:05 PM
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    But he's running the bases!



    Maybe he just got his flesh pinched. Painful but no breaks.

    roger_that
    Jun 20 2022 02:10 PM
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    diagnosis: strained hammy. Couple of days off? Two weeks?

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 02:12 PM
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    Man, an MVP award to whoever positions Miami's infielders.

    kcmets
    Jun 20 2022 02:13 PM
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    [BIGPURPLE]EscoSNAP![/BIGPURPLE]

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 02:13 PM
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    And finally a RISPy hit

    roger_that
    Jun 20 2022 02:20 PM
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    Mets now on pace to tie the MLB record, set by Cincy last year, for team HBP in a season

    kcmets
    Jun 20 2022 02:22 PM
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    Gary said on pace to beat the record by about a dozen. Not tie the record.

    Lefty Specialist
    Jun 20 2022 02:25 PM
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    Another game where they just grind out the runs. Fun to watch.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 02:30 PM
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    Not so fun to watch the mopup guy all around the plate.

    MFS62
    Jun 20 2022 02:30 PM
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    =roger_that post_id=96782 time=1655755488 user_id=128]
    Drink Canada Dry is an advertising slogan, not a recommendation.



    That was funny, eh?



    Later

    roger_that
    Jun 20 2022 02:33 PM
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    Edgy MD wrote:

    Not so fun to watch the mopup guy all around the plate.


    Drives me crazy. Or didn't you notice?

    kcmets
    Jun 20 2022 02:33 PM
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    Book-a-doodles!

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 02:36 PM
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    Other than it being an 8-1/2 inning game that took just under 3:30, it was a kinda fun afternoon.

    roger_that
    Jun 20 2022 02:36 PM
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    =kcmets post_id=96792 time=1655756578 user_id=53]
    Gary said on pace to beat the record by about a dozen. Not tie the record.



    I figure they're on pace to get plunked 121 times (50 times in 67 games), and the Reds got hit 121 times as memory serves. My memory and my arithmetic aren't so great, so maybe he's right. Also I'm counting only post-1901 MLB.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 02:38 PM
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    David Peterson currently rocking an incomparable 3-1 / 3.18 line.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 20 2022 02:44 PM
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    Strangely only nine games today and the one at Citi is the only one in the daylight.

    Johnny Lunchbucket
    Jun 20 2022 05:54 PM
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    I missed the whole thing working. Just looking at the GameDay pbp. Peterson created and escaped a whole lot of trouble and the Marlins are less WERRYSOME than I might have thought-' a bad fundy team like the Phillies.

    Frayed Knot
    Jun 20 2022 06:15 PM
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    As mentioned up the thread somewhere, some of the trouble was Peterson's own fault but almost all of the Marlin hits you see listed were softies so it was part bad luck too.



    His main problem was that those hits plus the BBs/HBP (and the Escobar error) came mostly leading off innings. That he was able to dance out of every one of them (w/help in the 6th) made his performance better IMO than how the raw line reads.







    btw, that's the 11th shutout of the season, accounting for just shy of 1/4 of their wins (11 of 45)

    Add in the seven games allowing just 1 run and they're up to 35% ceding one run or fewer

    2019, just to get back to the previous season without 7 inning games, saw 12 shutouts all year



    Not too bad for being without the #1 starter completely and at least 1/2 of the #2

    Fman99
    Jun 20 2022 11:32 PM
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    I listened while I worked and then while I drove around after work hitting my errand stops. Good job on the radio call today by H&W.



    McNeil day to day with "tightness" of the ham. X-rays negative on J.D. Davis' pinky where he got plunkied. So those are both good outcomes considering how Metsish they could have gone down.

    roger_that
    Jun 21 2022 03:00 AM
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    I listened while I worked and then while I drove around after work hitting my errand stops. Good job on the radio call today by H&W.



    McNeil day to day with "tightness" of the ham. X-rays negative on J.D. Davis' pinky where he got plunkied. So those are both good outcomes considering how Metsish they could have gone down.


    Best you could have hoped for, considering. A lame Squirrel is useless, and J.D.'s hand could have been a replay of last year's woes. Sounds like we may lose them for a short time. Good thing we brought up Dom today, almost as if someone understood we'd need someone who can play (some of) their position.

    Lefty Specialist
    Jun 21 2022 05:58 AM
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    Looks like Guillormepalooza for a bit. And I'm OK with that.



    Frickin' Braves beat the Giants though, so no ground gained.

    Edgy MD
    Jun 21 2022 07:15 AM
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    The season has a sunset date, though, so merely winning when you're in first place means gaining ground, no matter what the other teams do.

    Benjamin Grimm
    Jun 21 2022 07:43 AM
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    Cast your vote!