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IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

G-Fafif Jun 28 2022 08:59 PM

[youtube]rvUMTpenVRI[/youtube] Thelma Houston Whitney Houston Cissy Houston Allan Houston North of Houston South of Houston Enough of Houston. Enough of losing to Houston. Let's leave the home & home with something to show for it. Taijuan takes up the cause vs this Verlander character. He's not any good, is he? 1:10 on SNY.

Fman99 Jun 29 2022 05:27 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Houston, YOU have a problem!

seawolf17 Jun 29 2022 09:00 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Nimmo CF Marte RF Lindor SS Alonso DH McNeil 2B Guillorme 3B Dom 1B Inciarte LF Nido C

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 09:09 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Eduardo Escobench.

G-Fafif Jun 29 2022 09:17 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Escobar is 2-for-18 lifetime vs Verlander. Canha, also sitting, is 5-for-14 with a homer.

G-Fafif Jun 29 2022 09:55 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

The other fellows: Altuve DH Pena SS Alvarez LF Bregman 3B Tucker RF Gurriel 1B Diaz 2B Castro C Meyers CF

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 11:15 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

I don't want to overstate the value of getting José Altuve out to lead off the game, but it was colossally huge.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 11:17 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

I was ready to cry "Bunt, Nimmo, bunt!" but doubling on the first pitch works.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 11:28 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

If they don't score here, they're making him labor.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 11:34 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Interesting thing about that inning to me was that there was nothing in the dirt. Even with the few breaking pitches Verlander threw, everything was up.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 11:58 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

The Mets haven't scored yet, and Verlander is Verlander and is going to make that tough, but I confess to feeling more enthusiasm than expected seeing a turn through the lineup not include Escobar. Get right, Eduardo.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 12:12 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Verlander isn't throwing everything up anymore.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 12:17 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

I was kind of disappointed that Guillorme was at third instead of second, but man, he's all over the field this afternoon.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 12:29 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Ronnie, Keith, and Gary are on fire today, but confusing Strother Martin and Scatman Crothers is just weird.

Fman99 Jun 29 2022 12:44 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Good type of game to watch while working as there's not a ton that I'm missing when not able to look over to my left.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 12:48 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Verlander has totally deGrommed this game, coming out awkward, making an adjustment, and becoming brutal somewhere between the start of the second and the start of the third. Marte's popout to short center on the first pitch as the second Met batter of the game looms large.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 01:04 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

The McNeil/Verlander matchups have been the most interesting part of this game, but so far Verlander has two Ks. Here comes the Jeff.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 01:06 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Nothing that time either, though. Eighteen of 19 for Verlander.

G-Fafif Jun 29 2022 01:11 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Really wish those two long ABs, by McNeil and Smith, amounted to something other than making Verlander rear back for a little extra. Man, when your team's offensive highlights involve working deep counts twice, that tells ya something.

kcmets Jun 29 2022 01:15 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Edgy MD wrote: Ronnie, Keith, and Gary are on fire today, but confusing Strother Martin and Scatman Crothers is just weird. Right, and getting George Kennedy in there too. I was thinking did you guys ever even see the movie? walker done after 7 1/3 scoreless. Diaz in...

kcmets Jun 29 2022 01:16 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

And he hits the first batter -- Altuve.

Fman99 Jun 29 2022 01:23 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Strong work by Diaz to extract himself from that jam.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 01:25 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

I had to head out for emergency backyard duty, and missed most of that Diaz inning. We may need Darryl to hit the clock if we're gonna win this one.

Fman99 Jun 29 2022 01:31 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Alvarez took an elbow to the brain out in short left and he's done. He looked pretty woozy. Pena coming out as well.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 01:33 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Yeah, it looked more disorienting than dangerous. I hope so, anyhow. Astros still have two dudes on their bench.

kcmets Jun 29 2022 01:35 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

The seat on the ambulance cart they took Alvarez out on looked like it was built for a twelve year old. He almost fell off. Guy's huge. Buckle up! Pena out too.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 01:36 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

I don't like Drew Smith coming in. You've got to try to squeeze two innings out of Diaz here.

kcmets Jun 29 2022 01:42 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Luis flashing platinum skillz!

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 01:45 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Poop kittenz.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 01:47 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

That was a juicy-assed pitch.

Fman99 Jun 29 2022 01:47 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Edgy MD wrote: I don't like Drew Smith coming in. You've got to try to squeeze two innings out of Diaz here. Yeah I was hoping you were wrong but apparently not so much.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 01:51 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Don't swing when the tying run is behind you in the ninth. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

MFS62 Jun 29 2022 01:53 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Edgy MD wrote: I don't like Drew Smith coming in. You've got to try to squeeze two innings out of Diaz here. Yeah I was hoping you were wrong but apparently not so much. Giving it up to a .115 hitter hurts even more. Later

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 01:56 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Poopchutes.

MFS62 Jun 29 2022 01:57 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Joe Schultz. Later

Gwreck Jun 29 2022 02:02 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

This should be an eye-opening series: -The Mets are a good but not elite team. -An upgrade to 2 bullpen arms should a priority -Some reallocation of Davis/Escobar's playing time needs to be considered; they're not getting it done. Another bat should be considered. -Mets have beat no elite teams. 2-2 against LA; 0-4 against Houston. 1-2 against SD. Results against Giants/Cardinals/Brewers more encouraging but suggest the Mets are a pretty good team that likely could Make the playoffs, not a very good team that would be expected to go far in the playoffs.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 02:28 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

I don't believe bullpen arms are what's needed. All the relievers in the world won't win you a game if you don't score.

bmfc1 Jun 29 2022 03:29 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

2d time in 3 games when they screwed up early as Nimmo's leadoff double was wasted as 3 "All-Stars" did jackshit.

Gwreck Jun 29 2022 05:33 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Edgy MD wrote: I don't believe bullpen arms are what's needed. All the relievers in the world won't win you a game if you don't score. What do you think the Mets need? (Or would you just stand pat)? Me, I'm worried that Drew Smith is on pace to blow past his career innings high by August and after him and Ottavino there's a whole lot of “eh” in the bullpen. Getting shut out by Justin Verlander is not some great shame, and the Mets are, even despite the paucity of runs scored this week, third in the league in scoring runs. So while I agree that they also need to add a hitter, it is not the top priority.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 29 2022 06:12 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

This should be an eye-opening series: -The Mets are a good but not elite team. -An upgrade to 2 bullpen arms should a priority -Some reallocation of Davis/Escobar's playing time needs to be considered; they're not getting it done. Another bat should be considered. -Mets have beat no elite teams. 2-2 against LA; 0-4 against Houston. 1-2 against SD. Results against Giants/Cardinals/Brewers more encouraging but suggest the Mets are a pretty good team that likely could Make the playoffs, not a very good team that would be expected to go far in the playoffs. I agree with this post for the most part, but not with the characterization of the Mets as a "good but not elite team". I think that the Mets are, at the very minimum, a very good team, if not even better than that. I wouldn't put too much stock in their lesser showing against the top teams listed in GWrecks post: the sample size of those games is tiny, and thus, not so reliable. I do agree that the team could use some improvement. That's what the elite teams are always striving for. The Dodgers, for example, wouldn't be content with their awesome stable of MVP's and all-stars, and will stay up nights figuring out how to upgrade their 4th starter slot or their 7th best bat in the lineup, even if those are already solid players. And the Mets are now poised to get deGrom and Scherzer back, two of baseball's best pitchers before their injuries. Getting an elite pitcher is almost always, the biggest and most significant upgrade any team could make because an ace, or top of the rotation pitcher always replaces the last pitcher in the rotation and so the upgrade from one pitcher to the other is tremendous. Times two. Because there's two aces on the way. I think that if deGrom and Scherzer return as the aces they were just before their injuries, or anywhere reasonably close, the Mets are instantly transformed into a powerhouse. Plus there'd be domino effect benefits to their returns, such as less dependence on the bullpen and less need to score runs.

roger_that Jun 29 2022 06:24 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Edgy MD wrote: I don't believe bullpen arms are what's needed. All the relievers in the world won't win you a game if you don't score. What do you think the Mets need? (Or would you just stand pat)? Me, I'm worried that Drew Smith is on pace to blow past his career innings high by August and after him and Ottavino there's a whole lot of “eh” in the bullpen. Getting shut out by Justin Verlander is not some great shame, and the Mets are, even despite the paucity of runs scored this week, third in the league in scoring runs. So while I agree that they also need to add a hitter, it is not the top priority. In the past 72 hours, I have heard that the Mets #1 need is relief pitching, starting pitching, and hitting.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2022 06:57 PM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

Edgy MD wrote: I don't believe bullpen arms are what's needed. All the relievers in the world won't win you a game if you don't score. What do you think the Mets need? (Or would you just stand pat)? Oh, I'd totally stand pat. I have big philosophical differences with how they're deploying their assets, but among the folks in the majors and in the minors and on the Injured List, they totally have the personnel. It always seems like another reliever or two would make the difference, but if the Mets got 10 relievers, they would still seem to need two more.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 05 2022 07:58 AM Re: IGT 6/29/2022: HOU@NYM — Don’t Leave Us This Way

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