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Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

G-Fafif Jul 22 2022 04:48 PM

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kcmets Jul 22 2022 04:50 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

He's a big palooka!

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 22 2022 04:51 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Holy shit

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 22 2022 04:57 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

He's one of those guys who's like, even his hair is fat

bmfc1 Jul 22 2022 05:00 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Crushes RHP. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/MetsAnalytics/status/1549874881373822978[/TWEET]

Edgy MD Jul 22 2022 05:05 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

A cruel irony to see Smith replaced by a guy shaped like the guy everybody was afraid Smitty was growing into. Smith instead gets into decent shape and they bring in his chunky white twin to try to take his gig away.

Lefty Specialist Jul 22 2022 05:16 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

A preliminary to another trade, methinks.

kcmets Jul 22 2022 05:24 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Why bring up the new guy is white?

MFS62 Jul 22 2022 05:34 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

=kcmets post_id=100606 time=1658530240 user_id=53] He's a big palooka!

I just had a Steve Bilko flashback (Size-wise, but Steve was a righty batter)



Later

Frayed Knot Jul 22 2022 05:42 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

So we have a LH DH named Vogelhorn ... or is it Blankenbach?

Marshmallowmilkshake Jul 22 2022 05:43 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

I saw him in Pittsburgh in the game where they beat the Yankees. I'm pretty sure he hit a monster home run!

kcmets Jul 22 2022 06:02 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

He's a bruiser!

Marshmallowmilkshake Jul 22 2022 06:21 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Gotta figure Dom/JD will be going away for a pitcher to replace Holderman.

The Hot Corner Jul 22 2022 07:41 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

We have half (a really BIG half) of a DH platoon. Now the Mets need a RH bat to pair with him.

nymr83 Jul 22 2022 08:36 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Edgy MD wrote: A cruel irony to see Smith replaced by a guy shaped like the guy everybody was afraid Smitty was growing into. Smith instead gets into decent shape and they bring in his chunky white twin to try to take his gig away. Smith never became the hitter we thought he could be, but for a very brief glimpse in a covid-shortened year. Smith was drafted by the Mets way back in 2013. In the 2013 National League, Smith is probably still the the better roster fit. But in 2022 with a 26 man roster, a 13 pitcher limit, a DH, and the team's best (or 2nd best? whatever) hitter a 1st baseman, Vogelbach - a man who crushes righties, can't lefties, and can't play the field at all, becomes more valuable to the Mets in this league with this team.

TransMonk Jul 23 2022 07:28 AM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

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Ceetar Jul 23 2022 07:42 AM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

more I think on this, the more I sour on it. It's spending a reliever on a recency bias bet, and I'm not sure I'd even confidently bet Vogelbach would be better than J.D. Davis the rest of the way.

Edgy MD Jul 23 2022 08:18 AM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

I'm not keen either, but he's a lefty so it's probably not an either/or thing with Davis. I think it's more of a shore-up-with-redundancy move.

Ceetar Jul 23 2022 09:14 AM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

will Davis shouldn't be platooned, so there's that. for instance, Davis should've been in there last night, not random minor leaguer.

smg58 Jul 23 2022 10:58 AM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

On one hand, Vogelbach hits right-handers more than well enough to justify parting with a AAAA reliever to get him. On the other hand, his approach might not be a good fit for our home park at all. He is actually hitting for a better average then normal this year, at least against righties. So the question is has he made some adjustments to his extremely one-dimensional approach (which would be a good thing), or has he gotten lucky (in which case ceetar is probably right). I'd like to think the team looked into that before pulling the trigger -- I mean, it's not the Wilpons anymore -- but I guess we'll see.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 23 2022 01:16 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Sure. But the Mets haven't been able to consistently score runs for a while now, and I'm still glad they did something different even while I might already expect they paid too high a price. At the risk of sounding like a certain former president "what else do they have to lose."

Edgy MD Jul 23 2022 02:23 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Millard Fillmore!

Lefty Specialist Jul 23 2022 03:32 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Edgy MD wrote: I'm not keen either, but he's a lefty so it's probably not an either/or thing with Davis. I think it's more of a shore-up-with-redundancy move. I think this is more of a 'show Dom the door' move.

kcmets Jul 23 2022 03:42 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Yeah, hopefully Dom has a sub-let clause in his lease because 'he gone.'

MFS62 Jul 23 2022 04:35 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Dom is currently on the IL, and he can't be dealt while on it. The clock is ticking. Later

G-Fafif Jul 23 2022 05:12 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Dom is currently on the IL, and he can't be dealt while on it. No longer the case. 10. A player on an MLB or minor league injured list can be traded, even if the player is not eligible to be reinstated and/or healthy enough to play. NOTE: As far as a player having to spend a certain number of days on an IL before he is eligible to be reinstated is concerned, in the case of a trade, time already spent on an injured list is carried-over to the player's new club. https://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3524

MFS62 Jul 23 2022 08:04 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Bad news: Darn rule changes. :( Good news: They can trade Smith now. Later

vtmet7 Jul 24 2022 03:10 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

=bmfc1 post_id=100610 time=1658530824 user_id=73] Crushes RHP.

last thing that I knew, it was LHP that we suck against...I see no purpose in this trade...a fat lefty 1B for one of our good relievers...

G-Fafif Jul 24 2022 05:55 PM Re: Don’t Holderman on to Your Hats

Bucs optioned Holderman to Triple-A.