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Marshmallowmilkshake
Aug 02 2022 03:58 PM

Pitcher Mychal Givens, not the catcher, yet. Per Andy Martino. Not sure who is leaving.



He's 6-2, with a 2.66 ERA and two saves.

Ceetar
Aug 02 2022 04:03 PM
Re: Deal with the Cubs!

numbers look good, should be a solid add at least. Velocity down this year, but maybe that's part of his extra effectiveness.



Probably needed more than this, but it helps at least.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Aug 02 2022 04:10 PM
Re: Deal with the Cubs!

Per Trade Rumors: After months of speculation, the Cubs will pass the trade deadline without moving two of their biggest trade chips. The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal reports that both catcher Willson Contreras and outfielder Ian Happ will both be staying put in Wrigleyville.

TransMonk
Aug 02 2022 04:12 PM
Re: Deal with the Cubs!

#lolCubs

seawolf17
Aug 02 2022 04:28 PM
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Mychal Givens and Darin Ruf.



Crikey.

Frayed Knot
Aug 02 2022 04:28 PM
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Contreras was definitely in the yearbook as the boy most likely to be traded.

And then he wasn't.

MFS62
Aug 02 2022 04:56 PM
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Who did the Mets give up for Givens?



Later

Lefty Specialist
Aug 02 2022 05:05 PM
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Mychal Givens and Darin Ruf.



Crikey.


I was go9ing to say, "Damn Wilpons", but.......

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2022 05:05 PM
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Who the Mets gave up is Saúl González.

MFS62
Aug 02 2022 05:08 PM
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Thanks.

Later

Frayed Knot
Aug 02 2022 05:17 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

Who the Mets gave up is Saúl González.


Does he hang out with Juan Epstein?

The Hot Corner
Aug 02 2022 06:04 PM
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The trade I really wanted was to take Contreras off the Cubs hab=nds. He would have been a significant upgrade at catcher or as a righthanded DH on other days. I had seen last reports that the Cubs wanted top notch prospects (Mauricio and some pitching prospects) as well as MLB ready players J.D.Davis or David Peterson for Contreras. Would have been a significant upgrade, but the Mets (and everybody else) apparently found the Cubs asking price a little too steep for a short-term rental.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2022 09:34 PM
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Fun Fact: Saúl Gonzalez is, doubtlessly, a tall young man, listed at 6'7" by both milb.com and baseball-reference.com.



But after that, they differ somewhat. The former source lists him at 235 pounds, while the latter source says 288.



That's almost a four-stone difference!

smg58
Aug 03 2022 09:31 AM
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The Hot Corner wrote:

The trade I really wanted was to take Contreras off the Cubs hands. He would have been a significant upgrade at catcher or as a righthanded DH on other days. I had seen last reports that the Cubs wanted top notch prospects (Mauricio and some pitching prospects) as well as MLB ready players J.D.Davis or David Peterson for Contreras. Would have been a significant upgrade, but the Mets (and everybody else) apparently found the Cubs asking price a little too steep for a short-term rental.


The Cubs asked for so much they got nothing. I get why they'd want more value than the draft pick they'd get from giving him a QO, but they appeared to be asking for quite a bit more than that. I'd have balked too.



In the meantime, Alvarez has a .789 OPS at AAA despite a criminally unlucky .229 BABIP after yesterday's game. He's doing better than the basic stat line makes it look. He could still be the answer in September and October.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 03 2022 09:37 AM
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Do we know if the QO is going to be a thing this year? As I recall, they kicked that can down the road in order to come to a CBA that would allow the season to start. If the players agree to an international draft, the QO system will be eliminated. I don't recall if there was a drop-dead date by which that had to happen.

Ceetar
Aug 03 2022 10:07 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:

Do we know if the QO is going to be a thing this year? As I recall, they kicked that can down the road in order to come to a CBA that would allow the season to start. If the players agree to an international draft, the QO system will be eliminated. I don't recall if there was a drop-dead date by which that had to happen.


yes, and it passed. QOs are a thing.

Frayed Knot
Aug 03 2022 10:33 AM
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And the int'l draft idea was re-rejected.

G-Fafif
Aug 03 2022 11:35 AM
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Givens has been given No. 60.