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Frayed Knot
Aug 05 2022 01:35 PM

In addition to the several threads here dealing with our predictions for this important five-game set (and beyond), there's also the matter of cold, hard probabilities.

A five game series provides six possible results [the Mets can go 5-0, 4-1, 3-2, 2-3, 1-4, or 0-5] but those results are made up of 32 [2^5] unique outcomes

which will serve to make up those results.



What I'm going to assume here is that each game of the series is a statistical coin flip [50/50], an assumption which I think is fair seeing as how the two teams are

close in the standings and have virtually identical records since July 1st. One could argue that a slightly better season record plus home field should give the NYM a

slight edge in each, but HFA is small in baseball (53-ish% per game?) and factoring it in makes the math so complicated that it begins to make my hair hurt. So I'm

sticking with the idea that each of those individual outcomes have the same odds at each other. But of course more of those outcomes feed into split series results

than they do clean sweeps or 4-1 near-sweeps so the chances on those final results aren't all the same.



So, as our series began, the odds were like this:

Mets go 5-0 = 3.1%

Mets go 4-1 = 15.6%

Mets go 3-2 = 31.2%

Braves go 3-2 = 31.2%

Braves go 4-1 = 15.6%

Braves go 5-0 = 3.1%

(odds add up to 99.8% due to rounding)

And since there is no splitting of a five game series, the odds of either winning the series, in small degrees or large, is 50% to either side.



But now that the first outcome has been PUT IN THE BOOKS the odds change and the remaining number of possible individual outcomes is reduced, cut in

half in fact. Most obviously gone from the realm of possibility is a 5-0 ATL sweep while the odds on the remaining ones shift to reflect the ongoing reality.





So as we stand now heading into Game 2:

Mets go 5-0 [4-0 from here] = 6.3%

Mets go 4-1 [3-1] = 25%

Mets go 3-2 [2-2] = 37.5%

Mets go 2-3 [1-3] = 25%

Mets go 1-4 [0-4] = 6.3%

As you can see, the Mets winning the series 3-2 is the most likely individual outcome, but their odds of winning big vastly trump those of the Braves doing

the same and it all adds up to giving the Mets a better than 2-1 shot at gaining ground this weekend (68.8%) while dropping the Braves' odds to 31.3%

(again, rounding).



An Atlanta win tonight would further reduce the potential outcomes and throw the end results right back to even odds for each. And after looking at what

a win is the opening game did to the odds of a positive NYM outcome, I don't think I need to stress what a second win tonight would do to those chances.

Frayed Knot
Aug 06 2022 06:53 AM
Re: Series Odds

Damn! I was so looking forward to writing up the summary showing some Real Good Odds following a win last night.

Instead, this series has now turned into just a regular two-of-three with eight possible combinations remaining.

Six of those eight will result in a 3-2 series win for one side or the other although there remains a one-in-four chance

that someone sweeps the weekend and wins the series four games to one. I like to think that the combo of deGrom

plus Scherzer in two of the remaining three games tilts the odds towards our side a bit more than theirs but I don't

want to change standards in the middle of the game here so we're sticking with treating each game as a 50/50 deal.



Mets go 4-1 (3-0 from here) = 12.5%

Mets go 3-2 (2-1) = 37.5%

Mets go 2-3 (1-2) = 37.5%

Mets go 1-4 (0-3) = 12.5%

Frayed Knot
Aug 06 2022 04:17 PM
Re: Series Odds

Now that our #6 starter out-dueled their trade deadline pickup, we are now down to three final outcomes for this series with four possible

combinations of events to take us there.



1) Mets with both, finish at 4-1 - 25% odds of happening

2) Mets win tonight, lose on Sunday, finish 3-2

3) Mets lose tonight, win on Sunday, also finish 3-2. 25% chance of each so 50% odds at winning the series 3-2

4) Braves win both, Mets finish 2-3, 25% chance



So right now the odds are 3-to-1 in our favor of winning the series; more specifically

-- A 1-in-4 of gaining three games when it's all over. Or, as GWreck put it "Sigh contentedly. Prepare to deliver knockout punch during

4 game series in Atlanta later this month
"

-- a 50/50 shot at winning the series 3-2. "Recognize that while Mets are still better, Braves need to be taken seriously. Sigh anxiously."

-- and a 1-in-4 of losing 1 game in the standings. "Remind self that despite 5 game series, Braves could only make up 1 game. Nervously

pace while contemplating facing San Diego's new look lineup in October.
"







Already eliminated from competition are:



-- Win 1: "Reread Tim Britton article in The Athletic about Mets not sufficiently “going for it” in their best start to a season since 1988.

Grumble under breath that Eppler the former GM was willing to make a stupid trade of a great prospect in 2021 when Mets didn't have

a great chance, but now was gunshy about doing so.
"



and



-- Win 0: "Panic."

Frayed Knot
Aug 07 2022 04:56 AM
Re: Series Odds

So it's down to two choices: do we want to gain one game in the standings from this series or three?

I vote we take the 'three' option. Fate TBD starting this afternoon starting at 4:10

Gwreck
Aug 07 2022 06:07 AM
Re: Series Odds

Three sounds good. LGM.