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Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

kcmets Aug 01 2022 04:30 PM

Why are the police called cops, pigs, or the fuzz? - The Straight Dope Talk amongst yourselves.

Ceetar Aug 01 2022 04:39 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

origins of cops: [url]https://time.com/4779112/police-history-origins/ [BLOCKQUOTE]In the South, however, the economics that drove the creation of police forces were centered not on the protection of shipping interests but on the preservation of the slavery system.[/BLOCKQUOTE]

stevejrogers Aug 05 2022 01:18 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

origins of cops: [url]https://time.com/4779112/police-history-origins/ [BLOCKQUOTE]In the South, however, the economics that drove the creation of police forces were centered not on the protection of shipping interests but on the preservation of the slavery system.[/BLOCKQUOTE] You know, even before the early 2010s (Michael Brown, Brianna Taylor), I've wondered how many social media friends/followers/likes I'd lose if I was more open about my strong ties to the NYPD and other area community police forces (both relatives and life long IRL friendships, specifically through the Emerald Society and it's Pipes & Drum Band).

kcmets Aug 05 2022 02:23 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

Ceetar: If someone's mom or dad is a cop does that make them a piglet?

Ceetar Aug 06 2022 06:23 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

=kcmets post_id=102484 time=1659731025 user_id=53] Ceetar: If someone's mom or dad is a cop does that make them a piglet?

no, that's (hopefully) outside the job? pig is their title. It's what they do, keep the populace in line and protect the state. They can still be regular good and bad human beings and parents outside of that.

stevejrogers Aug 06 2022 09:17 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

=Ceetar post_id=102609 time=1659788634 user_id=102] =kcmets post_id=102484 time=1659731025 user_id=53] Ceetar: If someone's mom or dad is a cop does that make them a piglet?

no, that's (hopefully) outside the job? pig is their title. It's what they do, keep the populace in line and protect the state. They can still be regular good and bad human beings and parents outside of that.


Good to know you wouldn't be one of the looney lefties that would block me if I did more “Another fun night with the NYPD Emerald Society crew” posts, or posts related to charitable fundraising for whatever they have going on…



Though maybe you would if I made posts noting the horrid choices in beers/piss water that they've had at events I've attended over the years ;)

Marshmallowmilkshake Aug 07 2022 12:19 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

My father was a police chief. Two of my uncles were detectives. Two of my cousins were on the New York City force, both working at the scene on Sept. 11. They've rescued people. They've put themselves in danger to help others. They've protected people from harm. In my mind they are heroes. I'm proud of them.

Ceetar Aug 07 2022 06:26 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

Did any of those things they did necessitate a gun? An armed show of force? The things that do are a TINY minority of the things our current police force does. Miniscule. Even on the most "dangerous" beats. Cops can do good things, but they're almost universally untrained for the most common reasons they're called, even if they weren't systematically biased against women and minorities. And because they get all the funding, and DEMAND all the funding, we can't fund the people that WOULD be much better trained to respond to someone neurodivergant, or domestic violence, or any number of things. There is zero reason you need a gun to give someone a ticket, as they say, no one shoots the meter maid. This isn't a hard thing. When someone says "we should fund people trained to handle mental crisis, and deploy THOSE people when there is an emergency call" if you respond with BUT COPS PROTECT US, then you need a hard look in the mirror. Because what the cops "protect" is white supremacy and the state. If you're _behind_ the cop line, you're probably on the wrong side of history and moral justice.

Marshmallowmilkshake Aug 07 2022 07:06 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

Reasonable people can discuss how to properly fund law public safety departments. But you are calling them pigs and that is an entirely different thing.

Ceetar Aug 07 2022 07:30 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

no it's not, the entire institution is murdering white supremacists. UNREPENTANT ones at that. They actively make society a more dangerous and violent place, and I'm sick and tired of people arguing about civility. Fuck that, be better. Cops around the country ran a fundraising campaign in response to black people asking not to be murdered please. But sure, i used a mildly critical adjective on the internet.

Marshmallowmilkshake Aug 08 2022 05:38 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

You are twisting yourself into a pretzel and getting more ridiculous with each post. And now you're gas lighting.

Edgy MD Aug 08 2022 10:32 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

=Ceetar post_id=102609 time=1659788634 user_id=102] =kcmets post_id=102484 time=1659731025 user_id=53] Ceetar: If someone's mom or dad is a cop does that make them a piglet?

no, that's (hopefully) outside the job? pig is their title. It's what they do, keep the populace in line and protect the state. They can still be regular good and bad human beings and parents outside of that.


No, the nature of species doesn't work that way. When you shit-talk my father by dehumanizing him, you shit-talk me.



Your logic is simply the logic of a bigot. I would encourage you to examine that closely.

Ceetar Aug 08 2022 11:32 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

WE HAD A WORLDWIDE PROTEST OF POLICE VIOLENCE. And you're chirping because I'm generalizing the people that work that job? We just had a very high profile case where pigs should around while children were murdered, and actively PREVENTED other people from trying to stop the murderer. Some of the pigs involved in Breonna Taylor's murder are still working. Others are appealing their firing. Luckily they're not being charged federally. Colin Kaepernick protested police violence in the tamest fucking way and got black balled out of the NFL. In reaction to people being angry about black people like Eric Garner being murdered by pigs, they created that stupid thin blue line flag, they shouted 'blue lives matter' and pushed back. Imagine pushing back against asking not to be murdered? Imagine looking at that and thinking those are the good guys? They're not the good guys. They're agents of the state, protecting the system. Occasionally some of them do good work in the role, because there _is_ some good things about government/the system/the man/etc, but like, almost every single one of those things just needs a trained employee whose job it is to make it right. Almost none of them need a thug with a gun. But think whatever you want. I don't care. Call me a bigot if it helps you keep your small minded view of the world. I know data and fact are on my side, and anecdotal evidence like "my father is a good guy though!" is obfuscating the very real issue.

Edgy MD Aug 08 2022 11:41 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

WE HAD A WORLDWIDE PROTEST OF POLICE VIOLENCE. And you're chirping because I'm generalizing the people that work that job? No, I'm not chirping. Birds chirp. Pigs oink. I made an articulate statement rooted in reason. The notion that you can't be wrong in how you describe people — because they are wrong, and you are against them — is, again, the logic of a bigot. I imagine you know this. I don't know what "should around" means. I do know what "pigs" means, and you're wrong.

Ceetar Aug 08 2022 11:45 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

read it in context and you'll realize it means "stood around" and was a typo. Literally just like "aw well, kids getting murdered in there? Not my job, they're not a black driver on a quiet suburban street"

stevejrogers Aug 08 2022 11:49 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

Edgy MD wrote: I don't know what "should around" means. Fairly certain that was a misspelling of stand around, as I'm sure he's talking about the Keystone Cops and Barney Fifes that completely mismanaged the Uvaldi tragedy.

Edgy MD Aug 08 2022 12:18 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

Some of the pigs involved in Breonna Taylor's murder are still working. Others are appealing their firing. Luckily they're not being charged federally. Who is that lucky for? People who like pork? Colin Kaepernick protested police violence in the tamest fucking way and got black balled out of the NFL. This is well outside the issue. I reject the NFL. In reaction to people being angry about black people like Eric Garner being murdered by pigs, they created that stupid thin blue line flag, ... Who are "they"? ... they shouted 'blue lives matter' and pushed back. Imagine pushing back against asking not to be murdered? Imagine looking at that and thinking those are the good guys? Who, again, are they? Are they so awful that you have no obligation to account for your own behavior? They're not the good guys. I'm not arguing that they are. I'm arguing that you're practicing disgusting bigotry on this forum, and I think you know it and like it. They're agents of the state, protecting the system. They're agents of a lot of states, federal agencies, counties, and municipalities. Sometimes, they're agents of a zoo. Occasionally some of them do good work in the role, because there _is_ some good things about government/the system/the man/etc, ... It's a little late to play that card after you list "agents of the state" as a by-definition indictment. ... but like, almost every single one of those things just needs a trained employee whose job it is to make it right. Almost none of them need a thug with a gun. This is bigotry, and each time you practice it, I grow more certain that you know it. The amazing thing is how frequently that the people I meet online who hate President Trump the most are the ones most who behave most indistinguishably from him. But think whatever you want. I don't need your permission to think what I want. I don't care. Of course you do. Call me a bigot ... I haven't called you a bigot. I wrote that your behavior as shown here amounts to bigotry. And, again, I think you know it and delight in it, but I have no way of knowing that for certain. I also have no way of knowing if this behavior is just your hobby or a full-time gig. ...if it helps you keep your small minded view of the world. You have not written anything to critique any statement I have written as "small minded" (which should be hypenated), so this gross insult is just a gross lie. You are now using this site to lie, as well as practice bigotry. I would beg you to reconsider that and stick to beer blogging. I know data and fact are on my side, ... You haven't deployed data. You've deployed hateful slurs. Even if you had the courage to deploy data, data cannot support dehumanization. ... and anecdotal evidence like "my father is a good guy though!" ... You're putting quotes around words that nobody has typed. ...is obfuscating the very real issue. I am not "obfuscating" anything. I'm certain that I couldn't be clearer. Do you really think you using this site for cowardly hatemongering from behind a keyboard is advancing "the very real issue"? Do you? What if your child takes an interest in law-enforcement? How many times a day will you call her a pig?

Edgy MD Aug 08 2022 12:21 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

read it in context and you'll realize it means "stood around" and was a typo. Please don't presume to address me in the imperative. Literally just like "aw well, kids getting murdered in there? Not my job, they're not a black driver on a quiet suburban street" I don't think you know what literally means, and you are again typing a quote that has been ascribed to nobody in order to justify your bigotry. This is what President Trump does. And with each one of these posts, you empower him and folks like him, and do nothing for black drivers on quiet suburban streets.

Ceetar Aug 08 2022 12:33 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

critique my writing because you know you have no standing, a common tactic of people that are wrong and close minded. Again, you, and the recent impetus for the thread, are objecting to me using a mildly negative adjective for a group of bad people. But you don't even have the guts to say they're good people, because you know they're not. sorry, i suspect you know they're not. Is that better phrased for you? How about we just don't get up in arms about mild disses to crappy people, like the mayor of NYC who would be involved in the logistics of a Mets WS parade, stop policing (because, as we've established, police are bad) language, and just debate if Timmy Trumpet would be at the front or the back of the parade?

kcmets Aug 08 2022 12:35 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

=Ceetar post_id=102924 time=1659979934 user_id=102] .... I'm generalizing the people that work that job?

You're not generalizing at all, you've called 800,000 to 1,000,000 PEOPLE

here garbage many times in one way or another. You're so bull-headed biased

on this subject you'd probably struggle to say, 'well, maybe 5% are ok.'



Think about that, before going off on another defensive tangent.

kcmets Aug 08 2022 12:37 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

=Ceetar post_id=102940 time=1659983631 user_id=102] But you don't even have the guts to say they're good people, because you know they're not.

The truth doesn't need to be said. More pretzel stuff on your part.

kcmets Aug 08 2022 12:42 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

We used to call that circuitous nonsense years ago.

Edgy MD Aug 08 2022 01:04 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

critique my writing because you know you have no standing, a common tactic of people that are wrong and close minded. No, it's not. Your writing is awful, but what I'm critiquing is your horrible logic, your bigoted behavior, and your gross dishonesty. I'm sure you know this. I don't need you to tell me whether or not I have "standing." I know the standing I have. Also, again, please don't presume to address me in the imperative. Again, you, and the recent impetus for the thread, are objecting to me using a mildly negative adjective for a group of bad people. I don't know where you said this before, but what I am objecting to is you practicing bigotry, on this site, in these threads. I'm doing this explicitly. Beyond that, there's nothing mild about it. And you know this. You are, again, shamelessly lying. Please feel free to use this allegedly mild negative adjective with a member of the group in question, and let me know if you get a response. But you don't even have the guts to say they're good people, because you know they're not. You have no business making such a claim. I don't describe entire classes of people as "good" or "bad" simply because I don't practice bigotry. And I hope to encourage you to join me in eschewing such a disgusting practice, particularly here. So you are wrong, maliciously so. But if you want to test my guts, I invite you to visit me and see for yourself. sorry, i suspect you know they're not. Is that better phrased for you? Well, I imagine it's equally untrue, and you suspect no such thing. You're just getting off on being provocative. How about we just don't get up in arms about mild disses to crappy people, like the mayor of NYC who would be involved in the logistics of a Mets WS parade, stop policing (because, as we've established, police are bad) language, and just debate if Timmy Trumpet would be at the front or the back of the parade? You're lying about your language being "mild disses," and you're lying about people being "up in arms." You're lying about being policed. You're lying about what we've established. This, of course, has nothing to do with a World Series parade, and you're lying to suggest it does. You're just lying and lying. And doing that to defend your gross bigotry. And you dodge the question about your child but I'd encourage you to answer it because it's a real question real bigots have to face all the time. Please show some shame and self-awareness.

Ceetar Aug 08 2022 01:07 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

sorry, you're wrong. please cite your sources if you're going to try to contradict me. 1059! That's absurd. That's an absurd number. The goal is zero. You can think of it like earned runs for a pitcher. They're trying to limit it to zero. Sometimes they're unavoidable, but every one is a failure. That's what you're defending. That's what you're trying to claim is "the truth" of who's the good guys here. [attachment=0]pigs.jpg[/attachment] Although half of the people shot and killed by police are White, Black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population, but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of White Americans. Hispanic Americans are also killed by police at a disproportionate rate. These are not the good guys. This is white supremacy.

Edgy MD Aug 08 2022 01:15 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

=Ceetar post_id=102947 time=1659985631 user_id=102] sorry, you're wrong. please cite your sources if you're going to try to contradict me.

What statement would you like me to support?

Ceetar Aug 08 2022 01:24 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

Here, if you're looking for some broader opinions, an interesting podcast episode that thinks about a future where all police are robots, and one in which there are no cops at all. [url]https://www.flashforwardpod.com/2017/05/02/robocop/ There are articles linked too.

kcmets Aug 08 2022 01:37 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

I don't know if you have me blocked by now, but geez. Robots? When, 2145?

Ceetar Aug 08 2022 01:42 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

have you not seen the boston dynamics dog? Robots are here now. Hell they've got security robots roaming malls now, been like that for years. And a complicated system of cameras and sensors that's in some places is essentially what we think of when we think of AI. police cars are scanning your license plate while you're driving and making a decision on whether to pull you over. Red Light cameras are mailing you tickets. You can walk into some public places and your face is being scanned a background check performed, and it's not hard to continue to scan that face around say Citi Field, and know EXACTLY where you are at all times. (This knowledge makes me nervous when it's coupled with the snipers patrolling the roof of many stadiums) And that's probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Edgy MD Aug 08 2022 01:42 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

Here, if you're looking for some broader opinions, an interesting podcast episode that thinks about a future where all police are robots, and one in which there are no cops at all. [url]https://www.flashforwardpod.com/2017/05/02/robocop/ There are articles linked too. I'll take your changing of the subject as a tacit acknowledgement that you know your behavior is indefensible. Please try not to return to it.

Ceetar Aug 08 2022 02:02 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

I'm just providing education and data, as you seem to me to have trouble with the new data that has come to light over the last few decades. I don't give a crap about what you think about my behavior or language, as it's none of your business. The only reason you keep harping on it is because you don't have a leg to stand on in regards to the point, that the police system is garbage, cops should be disarmed, defunded, and the prison system gutted. It's a societal menace, and a waste of money.

Edgy MD Aug 08 2022 03:58 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

=Ceetar post_id=102959 time=1659988938 user_id=102] I'm just providing education and data, ...

No you are not. That is a lie. You are posting slurs.


=Ceetar post_id=102959 time=1659988938 user_id=102]
... as you seem to me to have trouble with the new data ...

I have no such problem, nor do I seem to. Nor do you have any evidence of this. This too is a lie. I think we can, at this point, go past describing your behavior as lying, and simply describe you as a liar, seeing as you do it continually and without compunction.


=Ceetar post_id=102959 time=1659988938 user_id=102]
...that has come to light over the last few decades.

You, being a shameless liar, have posted no data supporting your contention equating a class of people to pigs. Nor is there any.


=Ceetar post_id=102959 time=1659988938 user_id=102]I don't give a crap about what you think about my behavior or language, ...

That's unfortunate. It is hurting you. It is hurting our forum. It is hurting our society.


=Ceetar post_id=102959 time=1659988938 user_id=102]...as it's none of your business.

It is absolutely my business. This is false. I'm the administrator and moderator here. Ben is the host. What happens here is definitively my business. And his.



Beyond that, what you write in a forum is always the business of those you address it to. It's embarrassing that you claim to be lobbying for changes in public policy and claim your statements are not the business of the people you are lobbying. That's absurd.


=Ceetar post_id=102959 time=1659988938 user_id=102]The only reason you keep harping on it ...

I don't harp. I'm responding rationally and logically and charitably to your abuse of your posting privileges.


=Ceetar post_id=102959 time=1659988938 user_id=102]... is because you don't have a leg to stand on in regards to the point, ...

This is not only patently false, it doesn't even make any sense. The only reason I refute your lies and malicious abuse is that I have no case? That can't possibly follow.


=Ceetar post_id=102959 time=1659988938 user_id=102]...that the police system is garbage, cops should be disarmed, defunded, and the prison system gutted.

There are many, many police systems overlaid with one another, but this isn't the point. This is a point, and you would do well to make it. The point, here in this thread, is very different. It's about you and your behavior at this forum. Please don't try to pretend it is anything else. That too is lying.


=Ceetar post_id=102959 time=1659988938 user_id=102]It's a societal menace, and a waste of money.


Great. Please don't refer to a class of your fellow citizens as pigs or engage in any other bigotry in this forum.

Ceetar Aug 08 2022 04:49 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

fucking ban me or stfu, is my opinion here. You want to be a pro-white supremacy fascist admin, go for it. I'm not going to moderate my language because you don't like it. Sorry, they're scum and deserve to be treated as such when they show their stripes. It does no one any good to protect the ruling class.

Edgy MD Aug 08 2022 04:55 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

As you wish. Consider yourself warned. Any further bigotry in the other sub-fora will no longer be treated with the grace you have shown contempt for. First offense is 10 days. The second is 30. The third is permanent. Now you can say you've been policed.

kcmets Aug 08 2022 05:13 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

My suggestion is that everyone back-burner this for 48 hours. And return to your corners. There are no pro-white supremist fascists here that I know of. And I kinda know everyone.

Ceetar Aug 08 2022 05:21 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

then delete this thread please, since you clearly made it just to escalate this, much like a pig does when he sees a black person behind the wheel of the car. (thought not at night for some reason, hmm..) The only word I'm using is literally in the headline of this post.

kcmets Aug 08 2022 05:24 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

I didn't clearly do nothing of the sort. 48 hours. Please.

Marshmallowmilkshake Aug 08 2022 06:45 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

=Ceetar post_id=102999 time=1660000870 user_id=102] then delete this thread please, since you clearly made it just to escalate this, much like a pig does when he sees a black person behind the wheel of the car. (thought not at night for some reason, hmm..) The only word I'm using is literally in the headline of this post.

I call bullshit. This is a ruse. He's playing us for fools. No one is this despicable. Just another troll who gets off on stirring up trouble on the internet with ridiculous hot takes, oblivious or uncaring about the hurt he causes. I'm not playing any more. Get a life.

nymr83 Aug 10 2022 10:53 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

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Ceetar Aug 10 2022 11:35 AM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

see, that's racist.

nymr83 Aug 10 2022 12:03 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

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Ceetar Aug 10 2022 12:28 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

[url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-chief-apologizes-for-mcdonalds-officer-fabricated-story-about-being-served-mcdonalds-coffee-with-fing-pig-on/

kcmets Aug 10 2022 01:39 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

You do know that more than half of NYPD is non-Caucasian, right? Are they pro-white supremist fascists too. Asking for a friend.

Ceetar Aug 10 2022 01:51 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

Are they pro-white supremist fascists too. Asking for a friend. The republican party comes to mind. black people can be racist, can work for racist organizations. It's not uncommon when the entire system is build that way. Anyway, good guys, clearly: Chief, officer suspended after arresting candidate presumed to be anti-police tl:dr they made up a rape and drug charge and arrested him to bully him into not running for office, because they perceived him as anti-police. The assumption seems to be that he might have supported them wearing body cams (so you know, simply accountability). Even the mob isn't this heavy handed.

seawolf17 Aug 10 2022 02:04 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

There's a difference between "some individual human beings who are police officers are good people" and "the system is bad." There are a ton of folks who get into police work for the right reasons, and some of them are our friends and family members. They're not all bad people, and there are plenty of other fields of work that are good and noble where the people in it are awful human beings. It happens. But the system is unquestionably bad, and the Blue Lives Matter flag is unquestionably racist. It just is. Do we need police? We very much, unquestionably do. But we also need them in a system that does what it's ideally supposed to do, and not what it's not equipped to do. They're overfunded and over-mandated, and it's not an easy thing to untangle because of the politics on all sides.

kcmets Aug 10 2022 02:13 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

I basically agree. Much better put than, '1,000,000 people are pigs.'

Ceetar Aug 10 2022 02:32 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

I've said it nice a billion times over the last few years, and am mostly ignored. This specific instance was not about "A million people", it was specifically about the guy celebrating upending unhoused people's lives, and I got progressively more broader as I was not engaged in good faith. two things, which i'm sure also won't be addressed in good faith. 1. There are good people that are cops, that do good things. They do these things because they are good people, not because they are good cops. There's a difference, and it supports the idea that while we _need_ public servants that help make communities work, we 2. DON'T need cops. Maybe at all.( I linked a great podcast above. There's been a lot of research and thought out there on complete abolition.) Especially not armed ones. Certainly not a million of them, at the level we pay them. My quite town of 7000 people does NOT need 17 full timed armed officers. the NYPD does NOT need to have an operating budget greater than some countries militaries, and does NOT need to be maintaining offices in other states, never mind OTHER COUNTRIES. This is a gross misuse of public funds, and the second you even think about it, you've got cops at your door harassing you, or cops threatening to not respond if you actually need them. It's organized crime, and it's bad. The good we could do with that money.. And all that's WITHOUT the racial bias stuff. ACAB, as they say. There is no such thing as a good cop. Just like there is no such thing as a good Facebook/Meta employee. Plenty of them are great people! But it's a detriment to society. Their job makes society worse, often violently and dangerously worse. And it angers me to see this. I can only imagine how actual aggrieved people feel. So I'll call the assholes that work for the system whatever I want, thanks. They should be able to handle it, if they really think they're doing good, but as a group, they're not. Locally in NJ, they're currently fighting to detain more poor people, and to be able to dangerously chase after suspects through residential streets despite evidence that it's extremely dangerous to do so.

kcmets Aug 10 2022 02:37 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

=Ceetar post_id=103337 time=1660161091 user_id=102] Even the mob isn't this heavy handed.

If organized crime tossed you or I into a wood chipper it wouldn't be

on MSNBC for a month.

Edgy MD Aug 11 2022 02:25 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

I'm uncertain where bad faith has been offered to ceetar, but I'm happy to find out. I'm certain that no police officer in America knows what I'm thinking right now. I'm nonetheless glad to see them described as people.

Ceetar Aug 11 2022 02:37 PM Re: Cops, Pigs and Fuzz Thread

now in Chicago (And elsewhere) they're taking our money to build playgrounds for these ..uh, counts.. so they can practice playing with their toys, raiding our homes, destroying the homeless, and the general mayhem they cause. [url]https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/08/10/controversial-west-side-cop-academy-will-have-mock-neighborhood-for-training-heres-what-it-will-look-like/ City Council approved plans for the new West Side cop and fire academy in 2019. Instead of pouring more money into the police budget, activists wanted City Hall to spend the money on housing, social services and schools to address root causes of violence.