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IGT - Aug 12 -- Phils @ Mets (and series preview!!)

Frayed Knot
Aug 11 2022 04:30 PM

See, I'm actually early this time so no one needs to panic about late-starting IGTs (at least for now).



Friday [7:10] Ranger Suarez (L) [8-5; 3.68; 1.36 WHIP] vs Scherzer



Phils have been nearly as hot as the Mets lately although did get shutout 3-0 by the Marlins (and Not by Alcantara) Thursday afternoon.

Better yet, they did so even after loading the bases with no outs in bottom 9 but failed to push across even one run much less all three.



But, even with today's loss, they're 7-2 in August and 22-11 since July 1 [Mets = 9-2; 26-10] and currently hold WC slot #2 as the most

likely scenario has them as one of five teams (along with ATL, SDP, StL, MIL) fighting for four playoff spots [NLC champ + 3 WCs]



They're scoring runs just a hair behind NYM levels and are doing so without Bryce Harper and are pitching much better than earlier in the season.

They've also done some house cleaning lately releasing vets Jeurys Familia, Dee Dee Gregorius, and Odubel Herrera. Trade deadline pickups

include Noah Syndergaard (who we won't see) and reliever David Robertson (who will likely will). Also Jean Segura is recently off the 60-day IL.



LF Kyle Schwarber leads the NL in HRs but also strained a calf in Thursday game; he'll likely miss Friday with Sat & Sun being TBD



Saturday [7:10] Aaron Nola [8-8; 3.17; 0.98] vs deGrom

Sunday [1:40] Zack Wheeler [11-5; 2.63; 1.03] vs Bassitt

Ceetar
Aug 11 2022 05:12 PM
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and Keith Hernandez doesn't want to watch them, because they play defense like me.

whippoorwill
Aug 11 2022 05:17 PM
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The Keith thing is intriguing…

Ceetar
Aug 11 2022 05:25 PM
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The Keith thing is intriguing…




[url]https://deadspin.com/phillies-defense-is-what-grinds-keith-hernandez-s-gears-1849397077

whippoorwill
Aug 11 2022 05:45 PM
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Haha this is funny and my husband and I have thought about the reasons for this and we are stumped

Keith has a date and I hope the hell it's not with Trumps daughter

Frayed Knot
Aug 11 2022 06:10 PM
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Look, Keith (and Ron) are contracted for X number of games per year* so each is going to miss various series during the course of the season including deGrom

starts, division rival games, and other important match-ups. And of course all that stuff -- how many home games, how many long road trips, etc. -- is up for

negotiations, including this series. If Keith wants to take this one off because the Phils lack of "fundies" (unlike what the linked article harps on, it's not just

the physical errors or poor range) offends his aesthetic sense of the game then that's as good a reason as any as far as I'm concerned. He has to know that

he'd take heat for going public with the reason and obviously doesn't care. Neither do I. I think it's kind of amusing actually.







* a bit over 100 IIRC so each is missing approx 1/3 of all games

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 05:52 AM
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I mean, that's the beauty of being Keith Hernandez. He doesn't have to give AF about the stuff other people do. I walk that same path actually. It's liberating.

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 06:01 AM
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The Keith thing is intriguing…




[url]https://deadspin.com/phillies-defense-is-what-grinds-keith-hernandez-s-gears-1849397077


This article, however, sucks, as does everything Deadspinny. Has to be such a hot take all the time.

seawolf17
Aug 12 2022 06:02 AM
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=Fman99 post_id=103489 time=1660305138 user_id=86]
I mean, that's the beauty of being Keith Hernandez. He doesn't have to give AF about the stuff other people do. I walk that same path actually. It's liberating.


100%.

kcmets
Aug 12 2022 08:07 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

Look, Keith (and Ron) are contracted for X number of games per year* so each is going to miss various series


I mean geez, Ron has like four jobs!

Ceetar
Aug 12 2022 08:14 AM
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The Keith thing is intriguing…




[url]https://deadspin.com/phillies-defense-is-what-grinds-keith-hernandez-s-gears-1849397077


This article, however, sucks, as does everything Deadspinny. Has to be such a hot take all the time.


yeah, I just linked it because I've found Deadspin to be mostly..fine..and the other choice was the NYPost which I don't even want to give the hot link too, complete and utter unredeemable trash. But then I read it and it came across as mostly philly fan whining. Deadspin was always pretty trash, but usually it did/does at least get the salient points.

metsmarathon
Aug 12 2022 08:58 AM
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deadspin is so much more trash now than it used to be. i kinda hate myself that it's one of my daily clicks. but i hate most other sports sites more, so whaddayagonnado?



keith is right. philly is garbage. er, i mean, the phillies are garbage. i don't actually have much of an opinion on the town itself. it's probably also true that getting to philly is one of the least pleasant trips available, and he'd rather say, 'yeah, philly sucks and it pains me to watch them', than , 'fuck it just i don't wanna sit in a damned bus for four hours trying to get to the game'. i cannot blame him either way.

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 09:06 AM
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Well he's getting his own cruddy deal, like the rest of us, he'll have to suffer through an Apple TV+ broadcast to watch tonight's game.

kcmets
Aug 12 2022 09:17 AM
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I forgot about the Apple thing and forget if I figured out a way to watch

for free. It's very aggravating, fuck MLB and Manfred, you shouldn't have

to jump through hoops to watch a fucking ballgame.

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 09:41 AM
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I forgot about the Apple thing and forget if I figured out a way to watch

for free. It's very aggravating, fuck MLB and Manfred, you shouldn't have

to jump through hoops to watch a fucking ballgame.


This week happens to be one in which the Mets/Phillies is their "Free game of the week," so as long as you have the app installed, you should be able to watch it (though I'll confess I don't know if there are blackout restrictions). I watched the last one that was the free game of the week on their app (installed on my Google Chromecast) and it worked fine, subpar commentary notwithstanding

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 09:43 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2022 10:03 AM

I had no idea tonight was an Apple game. Fuck!





As far as the deadspin article, I don't care if it's Philly-centric or not. The problem with it is that the author acts as if Keith works 162 ganes/year but is refusing to do these and these alone,, even to the point of losing pay for them, all out of some sort of odd principle he can't understand.

You can't understand it, dude, cuz you're overthinking things and you wasted a half-page of stats trying to figure it out.



B-b-b-but, the 2022 Phillies aren't statistically the worst of all time ... not even of this current season!!

Wow, thanks man, that changes everything. I'll be on the first flight.

kcmets
Aug 12 2022 09:52 AM
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I get Apple TV on the TV I'd rather not watch it on and can log on with my

iTunes password. Google Play will not let me install it on the TV I want to

watch it on for some reason. Click click click, nothing happens.



It's crazy and quite maddening.

Ceetar
Aug 12 2022 12:01 PM
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there 's no Android app i don't think.

kcmets
Aug 12 2022 12:35 PM
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I must be getting the 'channel' some how through Prime Firestick on other TV. I

can't load it on the other TV using a Verizon streaming device. I have a lot to do

this evening (at least early on) so radio will have to do. They can still kiss my Peacock.

Ceetar
Aug 12 2022 12:54 PM
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it plays in a browser and I can cast a chrome tab to my TV if i want. Doesn't work if I want to watch on a mobile device from say, the kitchen, though.

G-Fafif
Aug 12 2022 01:09 PM
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The Apple falls far from the desired viewing option tree.



Versus LHP Ranger Suárez (8-5, 3.68)…



Nimmo CF

Marte RF

Lindor SS

Alonso 1B

Ruf DH

Canha LF

McNeil 2B

Escobar 3B

Nido C

-

Scherzer RHP (8-2, 1.98)

G-Fafif
Aug 12 2022 02:04 PM
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Thor will get a pregame tribute video.

MFS62
Aug 12 2022 02:09 PM
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=G-Fafif post_id=103533 time=1660334671 user_id=55]
Thor will get a pregame tribute video.



He's finally getting his Emmy for Game of Thrones?



Later

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 04:32 PM
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bmfc1
Aug 12 2022 04:35 PM
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Keith isn't ducking this series as he has a STL WS Anniversary event this weekend. He's ducking next weekend's series in PHI (although with Ronnie working for TBS on Tuesday we've had more of Keith on the weekdays and Ronnie on the weekends).



No Kyle Schwarber who left last night's game with an injury.



Stephen Nelson, Cliff Floyd, Heidi Watney, and Katie Nolan are your Apple+ announcers.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 12 2022 04:56 PM
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I managed to jump through all the hoops and install Apple TV on my Samsung smart tv. Turned it on just now and the game being offered was Padres Nationals. I thought it meant a local blackout, but I was able to scroll to the right to find Mets Phillies.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 12 2022 05:07 PM
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And my Apple TV Feed is a spinning pinwheel icon on a black background.



Whose idea was this?

MFS62
Aug 12 2022 05:20 PM
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You're not missing anything good.

Later

Lefty Specialist
Aug 12 2022 05:31 PM
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Annoying, boring announcers. Want to like Cliff Floyd but I can't.



And Max is annoyed at the umpire, who seemed to be messing with him. Too many hits so far.

soupcan
Aug 12 2022 05:33 PM
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Criticize this broadcast all you want but the picture is amaze-za-zing.



I've muted the Apple booth and have managed to sync Howie & Wayne to the video and listen to them through my living room speakers.



As good as it gets? I dunno but it's close.

ashie62
Aug 12 2022 05:37 PM
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Max at 38 pitches already

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 05:39 PM
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Not noticing any difference in picture quality.

But if you are maybe you can answer this question: is that 30-weight oil in Brandon Marsh's hair or 40?

Lefty Specialist
Aug 12 2022 05:42 PM
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Hope Max gets it together soon. Phils seem to be very aggressive swinging tonight.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 12 2022 05:46 PM
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And I'm finding the Apple TV picture too dark.

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 05:50 PM
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I am with Soupy on this - the quality of the video feed really pops on my big mutha TV set.



The audio, on the other hand, well, uh

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 05:51 PM
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Mets now out of infielders in the second inning.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 05:55 PM
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Weird shit happening in the Mets dugout.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 05:56 PM
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Canha gonya.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 05:57 PM
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McNeil out?



Canha at third?



STUPID DEPTH CHART THREAD!!!

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 05:58 PM
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Escobar and McNeil both out? I don't know what's going on. Announcers not giving any indication that they know what the haps are

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 05:59 PM
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Could this announcing crew be more confused and confusing?

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 05:59 PM
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Well now we know who's 4th on the 3B depth chart.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:00 PM
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Canha has four career appearances at third, none since 2016.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 12 2022 06:00 PM
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What the hell is going on??????

Lefty Specialist
Aug 12 2022 06:01 PM
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Mark Vientos, white courtesy phone......

Gwreck
Aug 12 2022 06:02 PM
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Positive COVID tests? Not sure what else would have prompted them both being pulled.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:02 PM
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The amazing thing is that there are three persons in the booth and none of them seem to have heard of injury substitutions, and they seem to think this is some sort of inscrutable Buck Showalter strategy.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:04 PM
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For what it's worth, I don't think the two changes are related.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:05 PM
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They haven't even noted if either of the replaced players is in the dugout.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 06:06 PM
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=Gwreck post_id=103600 time=1660348934 user_id=56]
Positive COVID tests? Not sure what else would have prompted them both being pulled.



Escobar had that hot liner at him and McNeal that sliding collision with Hoskins.

soupcan
Aug 12 2022 06:06 PM
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I'm watching directly through Apple - mebbe that's the dif in picture?



Brandon Marsh is very clearly a pomade user.



And I may have spoken too soon about my syncing success… either I'm a moron or the tv and radio are moving at different speeds.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:07 PM
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Heidi Watney to the rescue!



(Who is Heidi Watney?)

bmfc1
Aug 12 2022 06:08 PM
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I don't know about you but if the other team moved a regular OFer to 3B I'd bunt right away.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 06:09 PM
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The Pause and FF/REW on my remote has no effect on the APPLETV picture so I can't use those to synch up with radio... and the radio is about 4 pitches behind.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:10 PM
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I don't know if McNeil hurt his head or his knee, but there's something weird about the quick-draining turf of today that when guys slide on the knee, it can snag.

soupcan
Aug 12 2022 06:10 PM
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And I can't pause the radio but can pause the Apple.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:12 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:

Mark Vientos, white courtesy phone......


Nobody pulled from the game yet in Syracuse. Vientos just batted and struck out.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 12 2022 06:14 PM
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I wish I had the option to watch this in standard def. I think Apple is using a higher resolution image, which is why it looks so good, but I'm having very annoying buffering issues.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:18 PM
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Nido is probably better throwing the ball right to third. I never see the pump-fake fool the runner over there.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:21 PM
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Marsh looks very marshy.

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 06:24 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:

I wish I had the option to watch this in standard def. I think Apple is using a higher resolution image, which is why it looks so good, but I'm having very annoying buffering issues.


I'm getting a smidge of that also but it's minimal

bmfc1
Aug 12 2022 06:27 PM
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Katie Nolan adds nothing to the broadcast. The sound level for the crowd is too high and the one for the announcers is too low (not that they are saying anything important).

Lefty Specialist
Aug 12 2022 06:28 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

The Pause and FF/REW on my remote has no effect on the APPLETV picture so I can't use those to synch up with radio... and the radio is about 4 pitches behind.


Hmmm. For me the radio is about 4 pitches AHEAD.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 06:29 PM
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The other thing that happens is that if I switch back to regular TV during a commercial I then have to re-set APPLE when I switch back to it. I don't have that problem with say MLB.TV or with other streaming services.

bmfc1
Aug 12 2022 06:34 PM
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That was a lovely play by Lindor.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 06:35 PM
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And now Canha with the 7-3 put out.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:36 PM
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I like how fate futzing up his defense seemingly makes Scherzer more determined to keep his defense from having to work.

bmfc1
Aug 12 2022 06:40 PM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Jacob_Resnick/status/1558251563617067008[/TWEET]

Marshmallowmilkshake
Aug 12 2022 06:41 PM
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Just tuned in - I have Apple TV for Ted Lasso - in time for the Lindor play. Then the next play, and discovered Cahna at third!! Had to go back and read the thread from the start to catch up.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:42 PM
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Cliff Floyd: "They were a lot of things I wanted to do during my career, but I was like, 'Hey, I'll holla at y'all later'."

TransMonk
Aug 12 2022 06:45 PM
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I may add that Floyd quote to my LinkedIn profile.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:52 PM
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Cliff played with Fernando, Sr. for the Expos when Junior was just three years old.

TransMonk
Aug 12 2022 06:56 PM
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The announcers are doing a wonderful job of promoting the Phils as a good team as long as you disregard half of the season.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 06:56 PM
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=TransMonk post_id=103633 time=1660351553 user_id=71]
I may add that Floyd quote to my LinkedIn profile.



He is probably be referring to skiing and zip-lining, but alternatively, my imagination boggles at the levels of debauchery he might have been putting off until retirement.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:06 PM
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Good time for the Mets to strike here.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:07 PM
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Seems like the Mets aren't even hitting it to the outfield that much.

TransMonk
Aug 12 2022 07:11 PM
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Oh Cliff - claiming he can kiss babies because COVID is gone.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:13 PM
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Naquin first-pitch swinging after Canha's walk = not bright.



AppleTV+ announcer calling him McNeil = not brighter.

kcmets
Aug 12 2022 07:17 PM
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Things moving along kinda quick, score some runs!!



The video is kinda crisper, sometimes looks almost 3-D. Weird.



If I hadda watch this bunch every night, I might consider drinking some anti-freeze.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:25 PM
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Its been a fat strike zone this evening.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:28 PM
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Gosuke Katoh pinch-hit for mid-game for Syracuse.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 07:30 PM
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OK, we've got [CROSSOUT]6[/CROSSOUT] 5 outs to their 3.

Let's do something with that edge.

Gwreck
Aug 12 2022 07:30 PM
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Would think about a Taijuan Walker pinch runner here for Nido.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 07:34 PM
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What's up with that, Tomas?

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:34 PM
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I realize they probably feel the personnel shortage to be too acute, but mentally, I was pinch-running Bassitt for Nido.



Not sure any pitcher would've done much better than Tomás in that situation, though.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:39 PM
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Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:41 PM
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Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:42 PM
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Looking forward to deploying Vogelbach at DH against Dominguez, as Marte leads off with a dubble.

soupcan
Aug 12 2022 07:45 PM
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Howie comparing crowd reaction to Diaz Ks to those for Gooden & deGrom.



He's not wrong.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:45 PM
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Vogle coming up?

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 07:47 PM
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Risky to go to Vogel in a GiDP situation ... but I approve

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:48 PM
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Wow.



This fundamentally flawed Phillie defense was sure well positioned for that play.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Aug 12 2022 07:48 PM
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Ouch.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 07:49 PM
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Not sure I approve of the send though.



Also, a fade-away foot slide would have been a better choice for Marte.

metsmarathon
Aug 12 2022 07:49 PM
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That was a bad send. Slide too

TransMonk
Aug 12 2022 07:49 PM
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That play was a knee in the crotch.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 07:50 PM
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And now the pen & lineup situations start to favor Philly.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:50 PM
Re: IGT - Aug 12 -- Phils @ Mets (and series preview!!)

Frayed Knot wrote:

Not sure I approve of the send though.



Also, a fade-away foot slide would have been a better choice for Marte.


Or maybe a flip.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 07:52 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2022 07:52 PM

Announcers have mentioned neither the existence, nor identity of, the ghost runner.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:52 PM
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I stick with Diaz here.



But the game isn't engineered for that anymore.

kcmets
Aug 12 2022 07:52 PM
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Everyone knew Marte was going to be a dead duck on that shallow fly-out.

bmfc1
Aug 12 2022 07:54 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

Risky to go to Vogel in a GiDP situation ... but I approve

And now Vogelbach is the "ghost runner" with only McCann on the bench (of course, he could use a pitcher).

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:55 PM
Re: IGT - Aug 12 -- Phils @ Mets (and series preview!!)

You had him, Neato.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 07:56 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

Risky to go to Vogel in a GiDP situation ... but I approve

And now Vogelbach is the "ghost runner" with only McCann on the bench (of course, he could use a pitcher).


Hard for Buck to anticipate that, but yeah.



Use a pitcher, and McCann becomes your DH as the last guy off the bench. And their best baserunning pitcher is deGrom, who I imagine is being kept behind plexiglass.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 07:56 PM
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Yup, he's out if Tomas holds onto that but it was a tough hop with zero margin for error.

kcmets
Aug 12 2022 07:57 PM
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Nido didn't come close to catching that toss home. Lost.

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 07:59 PM
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Let's see Vogey tie this thing up with some hustle

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 07:59 PM
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We effectively already had the ghost runner to win the game situation after Marte's leadoff 2B but didn't cash in. Now we need one just to tie it.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Aug 12 2022 08:00 PM
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Stealing third might be out of the question.

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 08:01 PM
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Halfway there big feller !

nymr83
Aug 12 2022 08:01 PM
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I would be awfully tempted to put deGrom on second base right now for Vogelbach. even if you told him "you are not allowed to slide" he is still faster to the plate on a single.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 08:01 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2022 08:02 PM

Now do you pr for him?

... I guess not.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Aug 12 2022 08:01 PM
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Best slide call ever by Cora!

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 08:02 PM
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Joey Cora lying on his face in front of a sliding Vogelbach looked frightening.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 08:02 PM
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Robertson is going to his neck a lot.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 08:05 PM
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That fat strike zone puts up behind the eight-ball.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Aug 12 2022 08:05 PM
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Bad call, but too close to take.

Fman99
Aug 12 2022 08:05 PM
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Dammit

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 08:05 PM
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Defense was the difference.

nymr83
Aug 12 2022 08:06 PM
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fuck the ghost runner. the top of the 10th wasnt even baseball. disgraceful that a team can win a game in an inning with No hits, No Walks, No Errors.

metsmarathon
Aug 12 2022 08:08 PM
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It's official. Apple TV is the worst

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 08:08 PM
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De-fund the ghost runner!!

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 08:11 PM
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=metsmarathon post_id=103695 time=1660356499 user_id=83]
It's official. Apple TV is the worst



I've seen Cliff on other broadcasts, and he's more or less OK, but in this booth with no clear roles, where the guy who i guess was supposed to be the PbP voice was just the most extraneous presence possible, the whole thing was a big splat.



I really felt like three more or less nice neighbors — mostly indifferent to baseball and just trying to enjoy some wine on a Friday night — called that game for me.

Willets Point
Aug 12 2022 08:15 PM
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I know that it's common wisdom to bring in your closer in the 9th inning of a tie game, BUT as long as the ghost runner rule exists I'd feel more confident with Edwin Diaz on the mound than anyone other reliever. Anyone want to tell me why it's dumb to save your closer for the 10th inning when you know there's going to be a runner in scoring position (and if the guy who starts the 9th allows a baserunner you can always bring in the closer earlier, of course)?

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 08:16 PM
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Or maybe three people who barely knew each other watching a game while trying to figure out what level of fans the other two are.

Frayed Knot
Aug 12 2022 08:18 PM
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Braves just won.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 08:38 PM
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Willets Point wrote:

I know that it's common wisdom to bring in your closer in the 9th inning of a tie game, BUT as long as the ghost runner rule exists I'd feel more confident with Edwin Diaz on the mound than anyone other reliever. Anyone want to tell me why it's dumb to save your closer for the 10th inning when you know there's going to be a runner in scoring position (and if the guy who starts the 9th allows a baserunner you can always bring in the closer earlier, of course)?


Yeah, you're not wrong. I wanted him for both innings, but the 10th and maybe 11th is fine also.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2022 09:09 PM
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By the way, crappy broadcast and a tough loss, but a heckuva thread, folks.

Lefty Specialist
Aug 13 2022 06:04 AM
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I'd have gone to Edwin for the 10th after only throwing 8 pitches in the 9th but whaddyagonnado.



The Apple team was horrible. By the 3rd inning I was listening to Howie and Wayne even though they were a batter ahead of the broadcast.



Phillies do seem to have solved some of their problems and could be an interesting playoff team.



Tough loss, but go get 'em tonight boys.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 13 2022 07:04 AM
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Cast your vote!

Gwreck
Aug 13 2022 07:23 AM
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Textbook example of Rob Manfred ruining baseball. Game decided without a batter reaching base in extra innings.



Abysmal and offensive.

Edgy MD
Aug 13 2022 07:55 AM
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I stayed up replaying this game in my mind.



Twice failing to get the runner in from third with less than two outs, including in the 10th.



Two injured-or-not-injured infielders in one inning.



The send from third? Was it a tough ask of Marte? Sure! Did he have a better chance scoring then than Canha would have driving him home? Probably?



The play at the plate — Nido had four options:
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  • [*]Go get the throw on a fly and dive back for the tag.

  • [*]Go get the ball on a short hop and lunge back for the tag.

  • [*]Take the ball on the in-between hop and slap down the tag.

  • [*]Back up, take the ball on the long hop, hope it doesn't hit the runner, and lunge forward for the tag.
    • [/list]

    No option is great, and he chose number three, but (a) he had more time than he realized, and (b) that being so, he tried to make the catch and tag in one motion and gakked.



    I was a terrible catcher, so I judge lightly and reluctantly. I also know these choices are forced to be made with a pointless and ambiguous rule bouncing around in the back of their heads. But catchers on championship teams gots to find a way to make those plays.



    The Phils played tighter defense over 10 innings and it won them the game.



    Also, I wish Guillorme was just a stitch faster.