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Frayed Knot
Aug 15 2022 06:41 PM

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Sorry, ignore that part. That was the streaming issues thread I'm preparing for the non-baseball forum.



What I want to talk about here came up the other night during the Apple game when someone mentioned the quirk of having the radio feed synched

up to the TV feed only to find them un-synched when the next half inning starts. I've had the same issue and I can't figure out what's going on.

I mean, I hear/see the final out of the inning at the same time, and of course the time from that final out to the first pitch of the next half is the same

in each case. But the fact that they're no longer synched can only mean that one or the other are adding to or subtracting from whatever delay they're

working with (either that or one side or the other now actually resides in the future).



If this is intentional I can't quite figure out the purpose ... unless it's just to annoy me. And if you increase the delay for whatever reason then you have

to decrease the next time or else you'll be like 20 minutes behind by the end of the game so, again, what's the point? And this shifting delay happens

virtually every time so it's not just an occasional quirk.

kcmets
Aug 15 2022 06:46 PM
Re: Streaming Issues

The video and the audio is data being sent over the internet. It gets there

when it gets there. I can see the living room TV from the room where I watch

the game and have had the game on in there and sometimes there's as much

as a 5-6 second difference between the two TV's.

Frayed Knot
Aug 15 2022 07:35 PM
Re: Streaming Issues

Right, but as long as the inning continues the two sources don't vary. Then, after the mid-inning break, the two are almost always at different points even though both have been "away" for the exact same amount of time.

TransMonk
Aug 15 2022 07:41 PM
Re: Streaming Issues

Are you streaming both the video and audio? What is the source of the audio?

Ceetar
Aug 15 2022 07:48 PM
Re: Streaming Issues

There's probably some "in the weeds" stuff that I'm not privy too, but I imagine that the game is being buffered to be "live" in the same way, and then commercials are loaded in separately, from a hard drive. Load times differ, etc, and the switching from the 'commercial' feed to the 'live game' feed takes variable amount of times that's not consistent, and factors in your connection, etc.



Fwiw, I'm fine with the audio being a few seconds ahead of the picture. Then I just focus on the audio game, and use it as a cue to look up when Howie gets excited.

Frayed Knot
Aug 15 2022 07:51 PM
Re: Streaming Issues

I'm streaming the radio call while i could be watching the TV via cable or via streaming depending on the situation.



And I get why they're not perfectly synched in the first place. I just don't get why they get so unsynched between innings.

TransMonk
Aug 15 2022 08:03 PM
Re: Streaming Issues

I tend to think Ceetar is right about the buffering of non-broadcast material on the audio feed.



If you stream the WCBS audio directly from the station you likely get the original broadcast radio station ads. But I know if you stream the WCBS feed off of XM, you get NYC ads with XM programming ads intermixed. But when I stream the WCBS feed off of MLB in the midwest, I get digital ads local to me (that are horrible and often will repeat EVERY commercial breakā€¦unlistenable I tell ya).



I would guess the programmed switching and buffering between the original broadcast and the inserted commercial media could cause those delays getting back from commercials.

kcmets
Aug 15 2022 08:04 PM
Re: Streaming Issues

Rabbit ears TV and a transistor radio sync'd up just fine.