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Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Edgy MD Sep 05 2022 09:14 AM

Today's game with Pittsburgh postponed due to inclement weather, and rescheduled as part of a Wednesday doubleheader.

MFS62 Sep 05 2022 09:20 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Things to do in Pittsburgh when the game is rained out: Eat sandwiches at Primanti's with the French fries on them. Uh, I can't think of anything else. A little help here. Later

kcmets Sep 05 2022 09:34 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 05 2022 09:41 AM

Haven't been there in some time, but there used to be a couple of really good German restaurants in Pittsburgh. Something we're sorely lacking around here.

whippoorwill Sep 05 2022 09:38 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

There are lots of cool museums there

Chad ochoseis Sep 05 2022 09:40 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Andy Warhol museum Any number of cafes and restaurants in Squirrel Hill. None of the restaurants are Primanti's. Mt. Washington funicular Arsenal Cider near the ballpark. I've never been to that particular one, but they opened one near me in Cleveland a couple of years ago, and they're excellent. Station Square is pretty nice. Chatham University has one of the most beautiful urban campuses around. Pretty good street life and art scene, particularly around Squirrel Hill. Pittsburgh doesn't suck.

whippoorwill Sep 05 2022 09:56 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

No Pittsburgh definitely doesn't suck

whippoorwill Sep 05 2022 09:59 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

If you feel like a drive, Falling Water and the Flight 93 Memorial are in the region

Frayed Knot Sep 05 2022 10:13 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

"Sometimes you need a rainout" I'm not sure that this is that day, but who knows. I do know that I didn't need one having missed large chunks of all three WAS games and having the day off today with a day game slated. And we know how much Buck hates them DH's

Edgy MD Sep 05 2022 10:36 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Robot Hall of Fame.

kcmets Sep 05 2022 10:41 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Not seeing one pitch of yesterday's maddening loss I certainly didn't need a rainout and was looking forward to a 14-2 blowout and picking up a half game on The Chopheads.

stevejrogers Sep 05 2022 10:51 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Inspired by another forum's thread comment on the still closed state of Citi Field's McFadden's space, I went down a little rabbit hole on the franchise that was burgeoning at the time they went into Citi. Well, it appears the McFadden's across from PNC is the last one left! Their original one near Grand Central never reopened following the COVID caused closure in March of 2020. Even more suddenly and without any notice from them than the Citi's location. I mean the first site I got with info was from a Buffalo Bills fandom site, where a New York City chapter organizer (not only was it a BillsMafia hotspot, but major Bill events, with big names as speakers and whatnot, were held there) noticed for lease signage on it months later, with zero notice or replies from bar contacts and socials! And I've heard that there had been some shady things (I know, big shock when it comes to NYC and closures with no notice) going on with their management in recent years. I'm guessing the Pittsburgh location didn't have as direct ties as others did, but locations in Nashville, Chicago, Arizona, Philly Stanford and Vegas all permanently shuttered recently.

bmfc1 Sep 05 2022 10:59 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

This is a taste of 2023 as the Mets have an off-day next Labor Day (and Memorial Day, too),

whippoorwill Sep 05 2022 11:06 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 05 2022 11:09 AM

=stevejrogers post_id=106397 time=1662396670 user_id=57] Inspired by another forum's thread comment on the still closed state of Citi Field's McFadden's space, I went down a little rabbit hole on the franchise that was burgeoning at the time they went into Citi. Well, it appears the McFadden's across from PNC is the last one left! Their original one near Grand Central never reopened following the COVID caused closure in March of 2020. Even more suddenly and without any notice from them than the Citi's location. I mean the first site I got with info was from a Buffalo Bills fandom site, where a New York City chapter organizer (not only was it a BillsMafia hotspot, but major Bill events, with big names as speakers and whatnot, were held there) noticed for lease signage on it months later, with zero notice or replies from bar contacts and socials! And I've heard that there had been some shady things (I know, big shock when it comes to NYC and closures with no notice) going on with their management in recent years. I'm guessing the Pittsburgh location didn't have as direct ties as others did, but locations in Nashville, Chicago, Arizona, Philly Stanford and Vegas all permanently shuttered recently.

I think we ate there. (The Pittsburgh one)I'll have to ask hubby if he remembers

Ceetar Sep 05 2022 11:09 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

I'm sure McFadden's will become a Crypto-only sports betting joint before long, and you'll be able to validate parking in the Shea Parking Garage between Citi Field and the Point72 Casino

Edgy MD Sep 05 2022 11:32 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Is the spot gutted or do they use it for banquets and receptions and stuff?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 05 2022 11:38 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

=MFS62 post_id=106386 time=1662391237 user_id=60] Eat sandwiches at Primanti's with the French fries on them. Later

Gag. One of the worst sandwiches I've ever had.

stevejrogers Sep 05 2022 11:51 AM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Edgy MD wrote: Is the spot gutted or do they use it for banquets and receptions and stuff? I was at Citi the other night, did not get a chance to look. But when I took a peek early in the year (early June), all the signage was still up. Since it was a COVID care triage last year, I assume the inside got gutted then. AFAIK the interior club spaces (Delta, Piazza31, etc) are still the only places in Citi used for banquets, receptions and stuff as they've have been since 2009. My guesses are that it has to do with lease agreements, and the idea that only certain clientele can logistically take it over. Ceetar's snide remark might be closer to the truth, even with the scuttlebutt associated with McFaddens, but it will probably be something with their own brand name built into itself, rather than a mom and pop style restauranteur looking to expand into a franchise. You got a ton of overhead to think about, plus the sunk cost of literally nothing like it less than a 15-20 minute walk around. Which means pretty much zero foot traffic when there isn't an event, and that's amplified from after the Met season finally concludes through the following March. I can see the Mets throwing up their hands and using the space as a rental for events, but I doubt movements to get it back to a restaurant & bar will happen until things start happening across Seaver Way. And while it was always hopping, the crowd it attracted was a bit of a turnoff to others, especially some here. And while that shouldn't necessarily be a factor with a bar/restaurant attached to a ballpark, I can see that being part of a hesitancy in waiting for other venues to start popping up in a 5-10 minute walk radius. Get a little diversity in venues that attract different crowds to thin the heard a little and get a more eclectic. mix of your clientele.

kcmets Sep 05 2022 12:01 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

=Ceetar post_id=106401 time=1662397742 user_id=102]I'm sure McFadden's will become a Crypto-only sports betting joint before long

I'm just curious, why would a big business like that be crypto only? My feeling is

the whole Citifield-doesn't-take-cash-any-more is kinda border-line illegal on some

level. Money is legal tender by law for all debts public and private.



Unless Trump executive-ordered that away too.

stevejrogers Sep 05 2022 12:09 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 05 2022 12:24 PM

=kcmets post_id=106405 time=1662400866 user_id=53] =Ceetar post_id=106401 time=1662397742 user_id=102]I'm sure McFadden's will become a Crypto-only sports betting joint before long

I'm just curious, why would a big business like that be crypto only? My feeling is

the whole Citifield-doesn't-take-cash-any-more is kinda border-line illegal on some

level. Money is legal tender by law for all debts public and private.



Unless Trump executive-ordered that away too.


I really want to say it was COVID related (you really don't want to track the history of that dollar bill in your wallet or penny in your coin jar) but NYC, and other tourist trap heavy cities were moving towards cashless POS only in the years prior to the pandemic.



I'm guessing the pandemic took it from being a fad to the only option in major venues like stadiums and even theme parks.

Edgy MD Sep 05 2022 12:20 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Steve, I'm appointing you to find out what it'll cost The Crane Pool us to take over the McFadden space.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 05 2022 12:26 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Edgy MD wrote: Is the spot gutted or do they use it for banquets and receptions and stuff? I was at Citi the other night, did not get a chance to look. But when I took a peek early in the year (early June), all the signage was still up. Since it was a COVID care triage last year, I assume the inside got gutted then. AFAIK the interior club spaces (Delta, Piazza31, etc) are still the only places in Citi used for banquets, receptions and stuff as they've have been since 2009. My guesses are that it has to do with lease agreements, and the idea that only certain clientele can logistically take it over. Ceetar's snide remark might be closer to the truth, even with the scuttlebutt associated with McFaddens, but it will probably be something with their own brand name built into itself, rather than a mom and pop style restauranteur looking to expand into a franchise. You got a ton of overhead to think about, plus the sunk cost of literally nothing like it less than a 15-20 minute walk around. Which means pretty much zero foot traffic when there isn't an event, and that's amplified from after the Met season finally concludes through the following March. I can see the Mets throwing up their hands and using the space as a rental for events, but I doubt movements to get it back to a restaurant & bar will happen until things start happening across Seaver Way. And while it was always hopping, the crowd it attracted was a bit of a turnoff to others, especially some here. And while that shouldn't necessarily be a factor with a bar/restaurant attached to a ballpark, I can see that being part of a hesitancy in waiting for other venues to start popping up in a 5-10 minute walk radius. Get a little diversity in venues that attract different crowds to thin the heard a little and get a more eclectic. mix of your clientele. I used to (sometimes), whenever some establishment would refuse to accept my large bill, tell them that the bill is legal tender and that the store was obligated to accept it, and its refusal to accept it was a violation of Federal law. I had no idea whether that was true or not, I made it up one day on the spot. It sounded believable. Eventually, I got around to looking that up and it turns out that businesses have the right to reject large bills. I had a feeling that that's how it was because McDonald's had signs in their restaurants that they wouldn't accept bills larger than $20, and I figured that it McDonald's was posting that, it had to be right, because they're so big that if they were refusing large bills without legal justification, the public would've been all over that in a flash.

Frayed Knot Sep 05 2022 12:39 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

I remember, a whole buncha years ago, handing an NYC shop a $10 for a pair of 75 cent cans of soda and being rewarded with a look that said, 'what the fuck do you expect me to do with that?'. The girl I was with, who lived in and spent much more time in NYC than I, immediately recognized the meaning beind the look and dug out something smaller before I even added up what was going on. Left on my own I would have taken the 10-spot back and spent it somewhere else. Sweden is one of those places on the leading edge of the trend towards going mostly cash-less, so best to check on specifics before visiting CPF headquarters if that pocketful of Krona will even get you in the door.

kcmets Sep 05 2022 12:52 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

Maja takes Franklins for services rendered. And let me tell you, she can render.

cal sharpie Sep 05 2022 01:40 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

PNC Park is cashless. A beautiful stadium but terrible food. Pittsburgh is a nice city with good food. No ragging on Pittsburgh.

Marshmallowmilkshake Sep 05 2022 01:56 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

I went to a game in Pittsburgh in July and loved the ballpark. Would have been better had it not been overrun with MFY fans. The lines were so long that I didn't get food outside of a hotdog. I found a nice small museum near the fountain where the rivers come together.

Frayed Knot Sep 05 2022 02:16 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

I think all these stadiums are trying to go cashless after seeing the way Ben Affleck and Jeremy Renner knocked over Fenway for millions following a four game series with New York. "We're going to take down the cathedral of Boston"

whippoorwill Sep 05 2022 02:29 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

cal sharpie wrote: PNC Park is cashless. A beautiful stadium but terrible food. Pittsburgh is a nice city with good food. No ragging on Pittsburgh. Haha! We were there a few years ago and there were a few beer guys and I thought one was saying ‘yuengling'. I bought two $11 each and it turned out they were really ligenwhatevers grapefruit beers Omg We both stuffed them under our seats and ‘accidentally' kicked them over

Ceetar Sep 05 2022 04:16 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

=kcmets post_id=106405 time=1662400866 user_id=53] =Ceetar post_id=106401 time=1662397742 user_id=102]I'm sure McFadden's will become a Crypto-only sports betting joint before long

I'm just curious, why would a big business like that be crypto only? My feeling is

the whole Citifield-doesn't-take-cash-any-more is kinda border-line illegal on some

level. Money is legal tender by law for all debts public and private.



Unless Trump executive-ordered that away too.


That was a snarky comment on our owner, who's into the Crypto/NFT scams. A way of double dipping so to speak. You can only use CohenMetsCoin to bet on the Mets, and if you win, you're paid in CohenMetsCoin that you have to spend in the park.



But on a little more realistic scam, I imagine there's a chance that by going only Crypto for a sportsbook, you can assert that you're not operating a sports book INSIDE a baseball stadium, so no one will complain about that. All transactions are happening in the cloud, and just because they're handing you a tablet pre-connected to their network and website is purely coincidental.



On the cash front, They get around this by offering Mets gift cards. If you REALLY insist you're going to pay cash, you gotta go to the one vendor that well take your $20 for $20 in Mets money, and you can then pay with that. This is how most places do it. It's sorta skirting the law, but it works. Breweries in NY, back before you could legally sell pints at a brewery, would allow you to buy tokens, which were redeemable for a beer. You couldn't by a beer with money. YOu had to have a token for a 'free beer'. Same principle.



The inverse is plenty of stores nowadays are passing off credit card fees on the consumer, which I believe is or was against their merchant contract with those credit card companies.



All in all, it boils down to Capitalism=bad.

Lefty Specialist Sep 05 2022 07:27 PM Re: Sometimes You Need a Rainout

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