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Willets Point
Sep 06 2022 05:29 PM

In the future, everyone will be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom for 15 minutes, but right now it's Liz Truss' turn. As the fourth PM in 6 years, the position doesn't seem to have much job security. With a number of unresolved crises inherited from her predecessor, and an economic downturn inevitable for the UK, Truss isn't likely to have much of a honeymoon with her constituency. It's your mission, should you choose to accept, to predict how long Truss will serve in office.

MFS62
Sep 06 2022 06:06 PM
Re: Can't Truss It

1-2 years.

They'll give her a chance to fix the current economic problems.

And when she fails, she'll be out.



Later

Frayed Knot
Sep 06 2022 06:11 PM
Re: Can't Truss It

So you're wondering how long Truss will hold up?





An additional variation on the question: Will Truss's successor, whenever it may occur, be received by the current monarch or by her successor?

duan
Sep 07 2022 02:17 AM
Re: Can't Truss It

She's absolutely awful. Changes tack with the wind and firmly aligned at this point with the Brexity end of the party and will be pulling all sorts of nonsense with the Northern Ireland protocol.

Frayed Knot
Sep 07 2022 06:45 AM
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Without any hard data to back it up, it seems to me that these intra-party changes that occur within a term don't tend to go very well or very long, that once

a party loses faith in the person originally elected it has a tendancy to shake the voters' faith as well which in turn swings things towards the 'let's give the

other side a shot at this for a while'.

Lefty Specialist
Sep 07 2022 11:49 AM
Re: Can't Truss It

Tories had a problem in that they had two candidates that nobody particularly liked. Yet Labor isn't particularly well liked either.



I say 2-3 years but closer to 2 than 3.

Willets Point
Sep 07 2022 06:12 PM
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I know it's a different system but I can't imagine the US having 4 straight Presidents from the same party amid such acrimony. The last time a party had 4 straight Presidents was when the Republicans had Grant, Hayes, Garfield, and Arthur (and they only got to 4 because Garfield was assassinated). Anyhow, I can't imagine the next PM will be a Tory too.

Frayed Knot
Sep 07 2022 06:35 PM
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Of course the difference is that they can have four straight leaders from one party without necessarily having to go through four elections.

But as I said above, once you start getting heads of the party who weren't the first choice of the party (and also not approved by the voters)

the odds of holding onto power starts to go down. The die-hards won't switch sides but the centrists will shift.

Edgy MD
Sep 08 2022 07:27 AM
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Not that the US is such a great model, because it's not, but I can't pretend to understand the British version of self-governance. How a party with 172,000 members has such a grip on power in a union of 70 million citizens is ... befuddlin' to me.

Willets Point
Sep 08 2022 08:48 AM
Re: Can't Truss It

Appointing Liz Truss may end up being Liz II's last official act.

kcmets
Oct 20 2022 06:58 AM
Re: Can't Truss It

Everyone who had less than two months, visit Window 3 for your winnings.

whippoorwill
Oct 20 2022 07:28 AM
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Wow

Edgy MD
Oct 20 2022 08:29 AM
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When I start a new job, it takes me this long to get my passwords set up to log into the system.

Frayed Knot
Oct 20 2022 11:41 AM
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In her final statement released from 10 Downing Street she said, 'At least I managed to beat out that William Henry Harrison wimp'.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 20 2022 12:26 PM
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One of the papers actually set up a webcam on a head of lettuce to see if it would outlast Liz Truss. The head of lettuce won.



Yes, seriously.



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/20/iceberg-lettuce-in-blonde-wig-outlasts-liz-truss

Frayed Knot
Oct 20 2022 07:17 PM
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In addition to W. H. Harrison, Truss also outlasted the reign of Pope John Paul I

But even Yuri Andropov and Konstantin Chernenko lasted longer than her and I believe both of them were legally dead prior to taking office and merely ruled the USSR via a Weekend at Bernie's type of situation.