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IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

Willets Point Oct 07 2022 10:19 AM

Game 1 has begun. Bieber v. McClanahan. Our old friend Amed Rosario has the first hit of the game.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 07 2022 10:48 AM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

Giménez had quite the season, didn't he? Where did all that pop come from?

Willets Point Oct 07 2022 12:29 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

The Guardians win 2-1 in a brisk 2:17!

vtmet7 Oct 07 2022 12:52 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

Willets Point wrote: Game 1 has begun. Bieber v. McClanahan. Our old friend Amed Rosario has the first hit of the game. and they must have thought that he was Jose Reyes, as the Indian fans kept chanting "Jose...Jose...Jose" as he rounded the bases and scored on a 2 run homer

A Boy Named Seo Oct 07 2022 01:15 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

The Rays actually challenged the home run call, saying Amed missed second base as the ball Ramirez hit was leaving the park. Amed nicked second, though, and the Rays lost the challenge and the game.

whippoorwill Oct 07 2022 02:46 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

Yay Cleveland!

vtmet7 Oct 07 2022 02:56 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

=whippoorwill post_id=110263 time=1665175579 user_id=79] Yay Cleveland!

I'm rooting for a Mets/Guardians World Series

whippoorwill Oct 07 2022 03:01 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

If that happens my son and I will have a blast!

vtmet7 Oct 08 2022 07:25 AM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

I keep hearing/reading all this debate about whether Judge or Ohtanti for MVP but is either one really an MVP? The way that I interpret Most Valuable Player is: If this guy wasn't there, would they still be a playoff team? The Angels suck, so how is Ohtani an MVP? And while Judge pretty much had the best season of anyone, would the Yanks still win the AL East without him? Likely yes...Would the Astros machine still win minus any specific player? Most likely yes... However, if you take Jose Ramirez away from the Indians/Guardians, would they win the AL Central? I severely doubt it...so how is he not being mentioned as the clear favorite in the AL MVP?

Willets Point Oct 08 2022 11:24 AM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

The way that I interpret Most Valuable Player is: If this guy wasn't there, would they still be a playoff team? Some people interpret MVP that way, but most interpret it mean "the best player in the league," which is why Ohtani and Judge are the top contenders. Als why Ohtani and Harper won last year even though neither of their teams made the postseason.

whippoorwill Oct 08 2022 11:40 AM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

=vtmet7 post_id=110407 time=1665235549 user_id=80] I keep hearing/reading all this debate about whether Judge or Ohtanti for MVP but is either one really an MVP? The way that I interpret Most Valuable Player is: If this guy wasn't there, would they still be a playoff team? The Angels suck, so how is Ohtani an MVP? And while Judge pretty much had the best season of anyone, would the Yanks still win the AL East without him? Likely yes...Would the Astros machine still win minus any specific player? Most likely yes... However, if you take Jose Ramirez away from the Indians/Guardians, would they win the AL Central? I severely doubt it...so how is he not being mentioned as the clear favorite in the AL MVP?

Is Ohtani the HR hitting pitcher?



I'm on the ‘if your team didn't make it you weren't that valuable' wagon too.



I vote for Ramirez

MFS62 Oct 08 2022 11:42 AM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

However, if you take Jose Ramirez away from the Indians/Guardians, would they win the AL Central? I severely doubt it...so how is he not being mentioned as the clear favorite in the AL MVP? Two other views of that tend to agree with you. The Canadian Football League calls their award the "Most Important Player". In baseball, the Sporting News (when it really was the "Bible of Baseball") used to award a "Player of he Year" for the player with the most dominant year (this year maybe Judge or Ohtani) to distinguish it from a "Most Valuable" player.(In your scenario Ramirez) Later

vtmet7 Oct 08 2022 01:17 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

However, if you take Jose Ramirez away from the Indians/Guardians, would they win the AL Central? I severely doubt it...so how is he not being mentioned as the clear favorite in the AL MVP? Two other views of that tend to agree with you. The Canadian Football League calls their award the "Most Important Player". In baseball, the Sporting News (when it really was the "Bible of Baseball") used to award a "Player of he Year" for the player with the most dominant year (this year maybe Judge or Ohtani) to distinguish it from a "Most Valuable" player.(In your scenario Ramirez) Later cool...I think that there should be a distinction between "best" player and "most valuable" player...for example, When Andre Dawson won the MVP for a last place Cubs, it should have been best, not MVP...

G-Fafif Oct 08 2022 02:51 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

0-0 in the 14th, a postseason first.

Edgy MD Oct 08 2022 02:57 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

Please, please let this not be a pretext to perpetuate the magic runner rule.

whippoorwill Oct 08 2022 03:22 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

Yay Cleveland!

Willets Point Oct 08 2022 09:58 PM Re: IWCST - Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland

AL East teams have gone 0-4 in the postseason thus far. How sweet would it be if they went 0-7?