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Ceetar
Sep 13 2022 01:05 PM

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kcmets
Sep 13 2022 01:29 PM
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Do you know that the glass thing goes with the picture or is it just

happening to be in front of it making the picture confusing?

Ceetar
Sep 13 2022 01:49 PM
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sorry, I should've re-arranged it. It's in a doctor's office desk and there were all sorts of magazine nonsense in front of that too. It's an unrelated award.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 13 2022 02:03 PM
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You can see which Mets wore number 6 on this page:



http://www.ultimatemets.com/uninumbers.php

Ceetar
Sep 13 2022 02:12 PM
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it appears to be a two digit number.

Edgy MD
Sep 13 2022 02:19 PM
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The glass certainly distorts the faces, but it appears to be Mike Vail, Willie Mays, and Lee Mazzilli. But I'm mostly guessing at Vail.



The autograph, of course, looks like none of them, and appears to be addressed to "Dr. Altchek," presumably Dr. David Altchek, but his association with the team began well after the tenures of those three players ended. Beyond that, the signature appears to be of some guy named Al, or at least, some guy whose name begins with A.



So that puts us at something of a sticking point.



Are you seeing Dr. Altchek for your orthopedic needs?

kcmets
Sep 13 2022 02:25 PM
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The glass thing has nothing to do with the picture. I think.



Mets with first name Al and then a family name that large in the signature seem to

be non-existent in my quick look around earlier.

Ceetar
Sep 13 2022 03:39 PM
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it's addressed to Dr. Cahill.



Is it Al? I'm getting 'T' but again, I suck at sigs. Mays was only in uniform through '79 right? I don't see anyone with a 6* number on MBTN that seems to match, are all the coaches there? could this be some sort of all timers day later appearances? The doc isn't a young guy, but I assume this is a post playing days signature, not like "I had surgery in the offseason" surgery.

Ceetar
Sep 13 2022 03:46 PM
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I actually took this picture my last visit and forgot about it. clearer look at the faces, less so the signature.



[FIMG=300]http://www.ceetar.com/optimisticmetsfan/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220607_130625-scaled.jpg[/FIMG]



[FIMG=300]http://www.ceetar.com/optimisticmetsfan/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220913_130400.jpg[/FIMG]

Marshmallowmilkshake
Sep 13 2022 03:57 PM
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Looks kinda like Art Shamsky's autograph.

Edgy MD
Sep 13 2022 04:19 PM
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Well, at least we know that Dr. Altchek isn't Dr. Altcheck at all, but Dr. Cahill.



So much for my cryptology training.



Our guy is clearly a 60, and no Met wore that on the field in the 20th Century, much less the 1970s, so that would suggest that we're perhaps looking at a coachie, other support staff (bullpen catcher?), or a ghost Met. It would seem to be a Spring Training number, but the background is Shea, so there we are.

whippoorwill
Sep 13 2022 04:29 PM
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You could ask him who it is…

whippoorwill
Sep 13 2022 04:30 PM
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I'd also like to know how I can use my fat

Ceetar
Sep 13 2022 05:31 PM
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=whippoorwill post_id=107149 time=1663108191 user_id=79]
You could ask him who it is…



The guy talks to me for like 12 seconds, it's a rush to get all the actual questions about my arm in, half the time I'm chasing him out the door to finish my questions.



and I'm now I'm clear to not visit again. I should call and ask, lol

G-Fafif
Sep 13 2022 05:51 PM
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Definitely not Vail, who was claimed by Cleveland off waivers before having the chance to wear that uniform at Shea.

whippoorwill
Sep 13 2022 05:53 PM
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=Ceetar post_id=107163 time=1663111897 user_id=102]
=whippoorwill post_id=107149 time=1663108191 user_id=79]
You could ask him who it is…



The guy talks to me for like 12 seconds, it's a rush to get all the actual questions about my arm in, half the time I'm chasing him out the door to finish my questions.



and I'm now I'm clear to not visit again. I should call and ask, lol


Typical 😬

whippoorwill
Sep 13 2022 05:56 PM
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What we need to do is research what years Mazzilli and Mays played together (none that I can figure) then go from there to see who Mr 6- is

Ceetar
Sep 13 2022 06:05 PM
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76,77,78,79 seems to be the overlap. There's no one listed at 60 besides Jessie, and none of the coaches seem to match that signature.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 13 2022 06:15 PM
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That mystery guy is either a coach or a minor leaguer. First of all, the earliest that picture could have been taken was 1978, the first year the Mets wore that uni. And the only players who wore numbers beginning with a '"6" in that uni, Mario Ramirez and Hubie Brooks, are definitely not that guy. (Orosco wore #61 for one game only in 1979, but that was a road game, and thus, a road uni. And that ain't Orosco anyways). Unless there's some other player that wore a # in the 60s at that time that the Mets uni database hasn't picked up yet.

kcmets
Sep 13 2022 06:19 PM
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=Ceetar post_id=107163 time=1663111897 user_id=102]The guy talks to me for like 12 seconds


Gets $500 from your insurance. $550 if it goes over fifteen seconds.

Ceetar
Sep 13 2022 06:33 PM
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That mystery guy is either a coach or a minor leaguer. First of all, the earliest that picture could have been taken was 1978, the first year the Mets wore that uni. And the only players who wore numbers beginning with a '"6" in that uni, Mario Ramirez and Hubie Brooks, are definitely not that guy. (Orosco wore #61 for one game only in 1979, but that was a road game, and thus, a road uni. And that ain't Orosco anyways). Unless there's some other player that wore a # in the 60s at that time that the Mets uni database hasn't picked up yet.


yeah, figured the uniform would help. I think Mays was only there until '79, so that's two years.



It certainly doesn't look like a coach right? especially in the 70s. I tried to do a reverse image search on the headshot and got nothing. I don't see any names on Tidewater or Jackson that look like an Al or something. hmm.

Edgy MD
Sep 13 2022 07:13 PM
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My new theory is that it's JFK, Jr. who had visited with Willie in the Mets dugout a few years earlier, and is here back, somehow passing as an adult as he approaches his 18th birthday, using his name to get on the field and hang with the Mets' star centerfielder and legendary coach, rocking the number 60 in honor of his birth year.



Reconciling that, which is already the stretchiest of stretches, with the autograph, is ... not something I'm about to pull off.

kcmets
Sep 13 2022 07:19 PM
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Seawolf is the resident signature guy, maybe he'll nail it next he's here.

Willets Point
Sep 13 2022 07:20 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

My new theory is that it's JFK, Jr. who had visited with Willie in the Mets dugout a few years earlier, and is here back, somehow passing as an adult as he approaches his 18th birthday, using his name to get on the field and hang with the Mets' star centerfielder and legendary coach, rocking the number 60 in honor of his birth year.



Reconciling that, which is already the stretchiest of stretches, with the autograph, is ... not something I'm about to pull off.


Was this before or after he became a Trump supporter?

MFS62
Sep 20 2022 09:53 AM
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Before Max, the last pitcher to win his 200th game with the Mets was Bartolo Colon.

I didn't remember that.

Later

Willets Point
Sep 21 2022 09:32 AM
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Dumb question. I keep seeing a meme going around that says "The Mets, Who Are Good." It's even on t-shirts. Did this originate with a specific thing that someone notable said or is just a general vibe among Mets fans?



https://wikinyxstore.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/04033159/The-Mets-Who-Are-Good-Shirt-595x595.jpg>

stevejrogers
Sep 21 2022 10:06 AM
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First time I'm seeing it.



My guess it's blowback against fans that who are anticipating the inevitable disaster that is around the corner, as opposed to soaking in the moment.



Pretty much, “don't worry that the lead is a game this late in the season, just enjoy the fact that you root for a 90+ win (now 95) first place team that will be in the postseason.”



With no mention of a “for now” caveat, or the issues that could make the postseason run a short one.

Edgy MD
Sep 21 2022 10:21 AM
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That's one more reason post-season proliferation is counter-productive. No team that wins 68% of the time — and no fans of such a team — should feel disappointed all winter because of a season that ended with a post-season loss, in whatever round.

soupcan
Sep 27 2022 02:45 PM
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Al Osmundson





[url]https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=osmund002ala



[url] https://www.ultimatemets.com/playersearch.php?pagestatus=search&lastName=Osmundson

Ceetar
Sep 27 2022 02:51 PM
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Impressive.

Edgy MD
Sep 27 2022 05:19 PM
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Crazy. A rare at-bat for Soupcan, but he takes Kershaw out of the park.

soupcan
Sep 27 2022 06:01 PM
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Thank you.



Former bullpen catcher. I read the signature and somehow remembered the name.



Unfortunately, Al is no longer with us. Obituary



By the time I walk down to the basement I've already forgotten why I went down there, but a bullpen catcher from the ‘70s? Oh yeah, I'm right on top of that.

MFS62
Oct 03 2022 06:01 PM
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Debbi Fields, one of the first bat girls for the A's in the 70's, is the founder of Mrs. Fields Cookies!



Later