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Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook
Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 08:42 AM |
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Over the past few weeks I've been mining old newspaper clippings in order to present them as a new feature on the UMDB.
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MFS62 Oct 18 2022 08:50 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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G-Fafif Oct 18 2022 08:55 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Edgy MD Oct 18 2022 09:44 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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I remembereth this item completely.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 09:53 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 10:02 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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A Boy Named Seo Oct 18 2022 10:20 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 10:28 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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whippoorwill Oct 18 2022 10:30 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Edgy MD Oct 18 2022 11:07 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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It's what's missed in the Seaver-fumble story. During the short time the free-agent compensation draft existed, there developed a tradition, to the extent that it can be called a tradition, of exposing high cost veterans. The idea would be that someone who just lost a free agent because they didn't want to bloat their payroll wouldn't want a veteran whose contract is paying him for what he did in previous years. So the Mets exposed the Seavers, the Fosters, and the Kingmen in order to protect the Gaffs and the Gardners. There also seemed to be some sort of gentleman's agreement in place that such franchise-identifying players wouldn't be gobbled. Now, the logic of both those notions clearly had its limits. Some veterans were eventually going to be seen as worth it, and some owner was going to see that the gentleman's agreement was just a way of screwing over those teams with compensation picks — for a second time, after the first time was losing their player in free agency. None of that should excuse the Mets' decision, but Cashen exposing Seaver shouldn't be seen as some sort of oversight. He was just behaving as most every other team was behaving and betting on safety in numbers. Not so much. Kingman was released two weeks later. He cleared waivers and was signed only two months later at the end of spring training. So yeah, these contracts were pretty untouchable, but the Sox correctly concluded that Seaver still had some value.
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kcmets Oct 18 2022 11:08 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
This is fun! Thanks for letting us test drive it before going public.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 11:31 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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batmagadanleadoff Oct 18 2022 11:34 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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I think Kingman finished out the '83 season with the Mets. The famous line was Kingman telling Hernandez shortly after Keith arrived, (they were both first basemen) was something like "I'm glad the Mets got you, so that now I can get the hell out of here." (Or something like that).
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 11:35 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
I found Casey Facing Decision: Can Yogi Cut Mustard? interesting. It gave me some insight about Yogi Berra's brief time as an active Mets player that I wasn't aware of. It was also interesting to read Warren Spahn's comments on becoming a Met.
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batmagadanleadoff Oct 18 2022 11:42 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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This is great. Bruce Stark cartoons. I loved those.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 11:45 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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You're right... I looked it up. The Mets didn't release Kingman until January of 1984. He didn't play much after Keith arrived. He only had 44 at bats over the last three months of the season.
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batmagadanleadoff Oct 18 2022 11:48 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Do you have access to the old New York World-Telegram? (If such a database even exists). If so, you could reprint Willard Mullin's cartoons. That'd be awesome.
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Edgy MD Oct 18 2022 12:16 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 12:28 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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I do have an article about Darryl Strawberry's selection. And two about Steve Chilcott: That reminds me... I had meant to look for an article about Tim Foli; he's kind of a surprising first-in-the-nation pick.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 12:32 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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whippoorwill Oct 18 2022 01:20 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Fman99 Oct 18 2022 01:21 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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whippoorwill Oct 18 2022 01:25 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 09:07 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Because you asked for it: It's funny how memory can be faulty. I was sure that Baerga's first name was "Carlos", but it turns out it was "Iffy". Iffy Baerga.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2022 09:24 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Because you asked for it:
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batmagadanleadoff Oct 18 2022 09:47 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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This is great. There was some other illustrator who drew Mets sports cartoons for the Daily News in the mid-60s. Fella by the name of Springer. Frank Springer. Whoever that was. (Check out the July 29, 1964 Daily News, for example). Did some Batman covers, too, among lotsa other stuff.
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Edgy MD Oct 18 2022 10:01 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Nice! Eddie Williams was the prize in that deal, but Jay Tibbs ended up having the stronger career, including a really strong rookie year. I guess Lindor's second year suggests all-star infielders from Cleveland don't always crash in New York after all.
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batmagadanleadoff Oct 18 2022 10:16 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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DocTee Oct 19 2022 10:09 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2022 07:18 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Edgy MD Oct 21 2022 07:36 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2022 08:18 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 26 2022 07:02 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
New content released today:
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2022 07:50 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
New content released today.
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whippoorwill Nov 07 2022 06:33 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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I'll be checking this out. Always liked Tim Foli; maybe because he wore glasses
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 16 2022 08:07 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
New content released today:
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Edgy MD Nov 16 2022 10:38 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
I like how Donnelly and Newsday put a two-city dateline on that RFK story. Nicely done. I also like that that Hodges stepped out and spoke on the team's behalf, letting most of 'em off the hook.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2023 01:19 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
It's been a long time coming, but there is a new release out today:
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batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2023 01:26 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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whippoorwill Jul 31 2023 03:36 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 31 2023 10:14 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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MFS62 Aug 31 2023 10:20 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Now THAT was an achievement. Later
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 31 2023 10:22 AM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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Edgy MD Aug 31 2023 12:28 PM Re: Introducing the Ultimate Mets Scrapbook |
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