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World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Astros

16 votes

Phillies

8 votes

bmfc1 Oct 23 2022 10:30 PM Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Oct 23 2022 11:19 PM

Not who you think will win but who do you WANT to win? You gotta pick, you can't say "F 'em both". Astros: CON: They cheated in 2017 et al. Houston is in Texas. Ted Cruz is a fan. PRO: They beat the Yankees. They aren't the Phillies. They have one ex-Met, even if you've forgotten about Rafael Montero. Dusty Baker has never won a World Series (see the next post) Phillies: CON: We hate them. They hate us more. Do we really want to hear "the Mets play the World Champion Philadelphia Phillies"? (Hearing "the Mets play the National League Champion Philadelphia Phillies" will be tough enough.) PRO: They aren't the Astros. They beat Atlanta. NL East solidarity! "Abbott Elementary" is a good show. Bryce Harper winning a Series will piss off Nationals fans. They have two ex-Mets, Zack Wheeler and Noah Syndergaard. Make it three: I forgot about Brad Hand. The 6th seed in the NL playoffs, the last team to make it into the playoffs, shouldn't win the World Series.

G-Fafif Oct 23 2022 10:32 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

A ring for Dusty. This story makes an Astros' victory more than palatable.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 23 2022 11:52 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Phillies. So I can read and watch moronic World Series takes about how the Astros choked and lack character all because they lost the WS despite having the better regular season record. All this after having read and watched moronic playoff takes all month long about how the teams with the better records lost to teams with lesser records. But we've been through this already.

Fman99 Oct 24 2022 04:01 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Phuck no

metsmarathon Oct 24 2022 04:48 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

astros, easy. but i'll be rooting hard for wheeler and syndergaard to have great personal successes.

kcmets Oct 24 2022 05:30 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I want the Astros to win because I took them to win it all and I want my one-hundred cranebucks prize. Wanting and seeing Philly phans crying in their Yuengling will just be an added bonus. ¡'stros in six! #lgm #ygb #ymdyf

Marshmallowmilkshake Oct 24 2022 05:44 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I think the Astros will roll over them like they've pretty much rolled over everyone else. But I have to stick to my NL East loyalties.

DocTee Oct 24 2022 06:04 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Gotta go with the Senior Circuit.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 24 2022 06:34 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Astros. I don't want to be surrounded by Phillie Mania.

TransMonk Oct 24 2022 07:28 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Easy. The Stros. Philly fans are almost as obnoxious as Yankee fans.

duan Oct 24 2022 07:39 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

tough to do put picked the Astros. Though I did catch Harper's homer last night live and it was a pretty dandy moment.

Edgy MD Oct 24 2022 10:15 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I picked the Phillies, and then I read the pros and cons and I quickly defected to the Astros. I can't root for Bryce Harper, and it just felt gross pretending to for a minute there.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 24 2022 10:16 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

=bmfc1 post_id=111843 time=1666585846 user_id=73] The 6th seed in the NL playoffs, the last team to make it into the playoffs, shouldn't win the World Series.

It really is absurd that a third-place team, one that finished 14 games out of first place, is in the World Series.

vtmet7 Oct 24 2022 10:26 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

this is a tough one...but out of all the teams that were left once the Mets/Guardians were eliminated (It was my "ideal" matchup), I can live with the Phils vs Astros... The way that I look at it: disappointed that the Mets and Guardians were eliminated; but at least the smug Braves; over-budget/over-worshipped Yanks/Dodgers; and annoying Cards/Pads were also sent packing (Pads: Mets always seem to struggle vs them, plus their uniforms are uglier than shit, every single one of them; Cards: need I say more?)... the 'stros got caught, but it's not like anyone other than Yankees/Braves/Dodgers fans don't believe that they have been equally as guilty of doing things that were morally corrupt in building "winners"...at least the Astros don't choke vs the Yankees like most other AL teams do... the "biggest losers in sports history"? so many reasons to hate the Philthy phillies...but at the same time, are any of the current players/management to blame for my phillies angst? if you think about it, they have a bit of Mets in them: Wheeler/Syndergard: coulda/shoulda be doing this for the Mets; the 2022 Phillies like the 1973 Mets were under-achieving until something snapped mid-season; in the case of the Mets, it was Tug McGraw "mocking" M Donald Grant. https://newyorkmets.medium.com/ya-gotta-believe-5c7ad4e3683d in the case of the Philiies, it was the firing of Joe Girardi. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-appears-to-take-shot-at-joe-girardi-after-phillies-sweep-first-series-since-firing-manager/

vtmet7 Oct 24 2022 10:32 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Benjamin Grimm wrote: =bmfc1 post_id=111843 time=1666585846 user_id=73] The 6th seed in the NL playoffs, the last team to make it into the playoffs, shouldn't win the World Series. It really is absurd that a third-place team, one that finished 14 games out of first place, is in the World Series.

Phillies won 87 games; 1973 Mets won 82 games...IMO, if the Mets had just a little bit of luck on their side, they would have beaten the mighty A's...

TransMonk Oct 24 2022 10:35 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Benjamin Grimm wrote: =bmfc1 post_id=111843 time=1666585846 user_id=73] The 6th seed in the NL playoffs, the last team to make it into the playoffs, shouldn't win the World Series. It really is absurd that a third-place team, one that finished 14 games out of first place, is in the World Series.

Agreed with this, but I do think the Astros were the season's best AL team. I'm hoping they beat up on the Phils like they should.

Ceetar Oct 24 2022 02:30 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Astros all the way. Astros are good. They have good players. The phillies are scum and rivals. It's a no-brainer. Imagine rooting for PHiladelphia anything? lol. The Phillies are like, the textbook definition of biggest losers.

vtmet7 Oct 24 2022 02:48 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

from the phillies wiki page: As of October 1, 2022, the team has played 21,203 games, winning 10,019 games and losing 11,184.[9] the Phillies are a team historically associated with futility, being the first American sports franchise to amass over 10,000 losses; the team holds the world record for most ever losses by a single team in all of professional sports.[10]

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 24 2022 03:15 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

If we go back to the springtime and the who-do-we-fear threads I think I'd have said Philly because they really do have a nice lineup. Then we played them only to discover they cut too many corners and looked like a wilpon era Mets squad. Just the damage they've done to Girardi's reputation as a leader of men is impressive and I have a lot of friends-- including Josh who passed away suddenly this summer and would have been on cloud 9-- who love the Phils so I'm going with them. Go Phillies. I said it.

Lefty Specialist Oct 24 2022 03:57 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I like that the Nats won the World Series AFTER they dumped Bryce Harper. I'd like his ringless streak to continue. Better the Astros than the Yankees. I'll be banging my trash cans for them to win in 6.

The Hot Corner Oct 24 2022 05:48 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I went with the Astros, not really a fan, but at least they're not the Phillies.

Ceetar Oct 24 2022 07:41 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

As a rule I think I'd always root for the AL in the World Series unless New York is involved.

kcmets Oct 25 2022 04:31 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Right, that rooting for the Senior Circuit and NL East loyalty is completely lost on me. Aside from the Cardinals 'birds on the bat' logo I can't think of one nice thing to say about any other National League team. [FIMG=475]https://static.toky.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/2013-Cardinals-1000x750.jpg[/FIMG]

Fman99 Oct 25 2022 06:10 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

=Ceetar post_id=111895 time=1666643450 user_id=102] Astros all the way. Astros are good. They have good players. The phillies are scum and rivals. It's a no-brainer. Imagine rooting for PHiladelphia anything? lol. The Phillies are like, the textbook definition of biggest losers.

I have never been around more obnoxious fans than those who came in to NY from Philly at Mets games.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 25 2022 07:02 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

=Ceetar post_id=111895 time=1666643450 user_id=102] Imagine rooting for PHiladelphia anything? lol.

Philadelphia Cream Cheese. It's the best.

vtmet7 Oct 25 2022 07:28 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=111920 time=1666702943 user_id=68] =Ceetar post_id=111895 time=1666643450 user_id=102] Imagine rooting for PHiladelphia anything? lol.

Philadelphia Cream Cheese. It's the best.

Except it actually came from Chester, NY



However Philly Cheese steak is pretty good, although I usually prefer a French Dip.

Ceetar Oct 25 2022 07:31 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=111920 time=1666702943 user_id=68] =Ceetar post_id=111895 time=1666643450 user_id=102] Imagine rooting for PHiladelphia anything? lol.

Philadelphia Cream Cheese. It's the best.


It's one of those things that there is such a monopoly on that things that taste different (and maybe better) just taste wrong because we're so used to the one thing. But the other (real) cream cheeses are just fine, sometimes maybe even better? (store brand nonsense aside)





Cheese steaks also aren't better in Philadelphia than anywhere else.

Bob Alpacadaca Oct 25 2022 08:09 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I'm a National Leaguer through and through. I'll pull for the Phillies.

ashie62 Oct 25 2022 01:28 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Phillies. I hope my relatives get a championship

whippoorwill Oct 25 2022 02:23 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I'll be rooting (such as it is) because I'm still not over the 1986 Astros

whippoorwill Oct 25 2022 02:25 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Plus I have a niece in Philly. Not sure she'd care but she's always up for a party and I'm sure she'll find one if they win lol

Frayed Knot Oct 25 2022 02:27 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

When I've got no skin in the game (no NYM to root for, no NYY to root against) I often won't pick a side at first, sometimes to the point of rooting for whichever side is down just to get a longer series out if it. But then at some point I'll unconsciously find myself pulling for one side or the other before I realize I'm even doing so. This series feels like it might be one of those, one where I might not have a favorite until game 5 or 6.

Frayed Knot Oct 25 2022 02:34 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

It just occurred to me that this this likely is the first HOU/PHI post-season match-up since the 1980 NLCS, a wild affair that saw Philly win 3 - 2 (en route to their first ever WS title) where four of the five games (#'s 2, 3, 4, & 5) went extra innings.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 25 2022 02:40 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I remember that 1980 series. It was really one for the ages.

Edgy MD Oct 25 2022 03:13 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

That whole post-season was one or the ages. It's probably my favorite non-Mets World Series. It helps to be 13. Young enough to fully feel it and old enough to fully grasp it.

Frayed Knot Oct 25 2022 06:54 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Game 1, in Philly: Phils 3 - Astros 1 - Ken Forsch goes (all) 8 innings for Houston allowing 3 runs on 8 hits - Carlton scatters 7 hits over 7 capped by Tug's 2 innings of 0-hit/1-BB 8th & 9th - Luzinski's 2R 6th inning HR and Greg Gross's 7th inning single provide the runs Game 2: Astros 7 - Phils 4, 10 innings Nolan Ryan & Dick Ruthven - Tied 2-2 after 7, teams each score single runs in the 8th - Astros hit up relievers Ron Reed & Kevin Saucier for four in top 10 - Phils counter with 1 in the bottom half but Schmidt flies out as the tying run to end it Game 3: Astros 1 - Phils 0 (11) - Joe Niekro goes 10 and Dave Smith gets the 11th - Larry Christensen and four relievers pitch for Philly but this time Tug is on the short end giving up a leadoff triple to Joe Morgan then, following two IWs, (Jose Cruz & Art Howe) a GW Sac Fly to Denny Walling Game 4: Phils 5 - Asttos 3 (10) - Steve Carlton and five relievers hold the Astros to 5 hits although walk Nine!! - Vern Ruhle, Dave Smith & Joe Sambito allow 13 hits but back to back 10th inning doubles by Luzinski and Manny Trillo give Philly their margin after Tug mows 'em down 1-2-3 in bottom 10 Game 5: Philly 8 - Astros 7 (10) - After scoring 3 in the top of the 8th to break a 2-2 tie, perhaps allowing Nolan to come out for the 8th on three days rest was pushing it as Houston starts the frame 1B, 1B, 1B, BB (although two were IF hits) then tack on four more via an RBI GO, a Del Unser single, and 2-RBI Manny Trillo triple. - Houston then battles back with two of McGraw in the 8th - But Garry Maddox's 2-out RBI single in top 10 proves to be the series clincher as Dick Ruthven retires the Astros in order in the 9th & 10

Fman99 Oct 25 2022 07:05 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I recall exactly fuck-all about the 1980 NLCS

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 25 2022 07:36 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

It was a minor classic

Frayed Knot Oct 25 2022 08:25 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

=Fman99 post_id=111949 time=1666746344 user_id=86] I recall exactly fuck-all about the 1980 NLCS

Yeah, but you were in diapers, while others of us were (at least allegedly) adults.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 25 2022 10:23 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

The 1980 NL playoffs was the first thing I thought of when this Phils/Astros WS came to be and it was one of the greatest playoff series I ever saw. Back then, I watched the playoffs because a second place team, let alone a third place team had no chance of playing in the playoffs. And those crazy tequila sunrise jerseys on National TV! [FIMG=555]https://sabr.org/sites/default/files/1980Astros.PNG[/FIMG] The Astros played that series without baseball's best pitcher, J.R. Richard, who missed the second half of that season after he suffered a stroke. From 1976 to 1980, Richard was one of the premier pitchers in the majors, leading the National League twice in strikeouts, once in earned run average, and three times in hits allowed per nine innings. "When asked in 2012 who was the "toughest pitcher to get a hit off" during his career, Dale Murphy answered "Anybody that played in the late 70's or early 80's will probably give you the same answer: JR Richard." J.R Richard and Nolan Ryan. That was some duo for the brief time it lasted. [FIMG=333]https://80sbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/richard.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=333]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XHIAAOSwDqliOIeD/s-l500.jpg[/FIMG] [FIMG=333]https://img.beckett.com/images/items/3835053/marketplace/FRONT_custom_sf_513_14050019_1369874549.png[/FIMG]

Fman99 Oct 26 2022 04:10 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Frayed Knot wrote: =Fman99 post_id=111949 time=1666746344 user_id=86] I recall exactly fuck-all about the 1980 NLCS Yeah, but you were in diapers, while others of us were (at least allegedly) adults.

I mean, I was 7 years old in 1980, so I'm like 60% sure I was wearing my Underoos™ by that point.

Frayed Knot Oct 26 2022 11:12 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Nothing wrong with that, I'm wearing Underoos today.

MFS62 Oct 26 2022 11:20 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

There will be no American-born Black players on either team. Interesting article: https://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/national/article267882102.html Later

Frayed Knot Oct 28 2022 08:03 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Verlander's WS pitching woes [0 - 6, 5.68 ERA in 7 starts] continue. Was perfect thru 3 [36 pitches] and had a 5 - 0 lead, but has now given it all back in innings 4 & 5 where it took him 64 pitches just to get through those two. 5 - 5 heading into bottom 5

Frayed Knot Oct 28 2022 08:18 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Both Verlander and Nola are gone before the 6th inning even starts.

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2022 05:03 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Watched the final three innings this morning. Why? Because 4 34, that's why. Down 5 - 0 early vs Verlander and a Realmuto HR leading off the 10th is the game winner. Phillies winning via bullpen and defense. Whoda thunk it? Oh, and free tacos this year are courtesy of a stolen base by ... Kyle Schwarber. Go figure.

Johnny Lunchbucket Oct 29 2022 05:48 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

So how about those Fightins?

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2022 06:44 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: So how about those Fightins? Yeah, I was just about to add: a Game #1 comeback win on the road and Wheeler on the mound. Ooops!

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2022 07:48 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

A WS game just got delayed for five minutes for That?!?

MFS62 Oct 30 2022 08:04 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Maldonado was using an illegal bat in Game 1: https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/astros-martin-maldonado-used-illegal-bat-world-series-vs-phillies "Martin Maldonado is using a different bat today here in Game 2. He found out from MLB today that the bat he used last night was not a legal bat. It was a model he obtained from Albert Pujols, and he used it because he thought it was very similar in size and weight to his own model. The barrel, he said, was slightly bigger. He also thought it was a way to honor the baseball legend, of course retiring with the close of the season, but here's the catch to it, guys: in 2010, Major League Baseball changed the bat specifications and that bat that Pujols modeled was no longer, except if you were playing prior to 2010 it was grandfathered. So Albert Pujols could use that bat but Maldonado, who began his major league career in 2011, was not legally able to use that bat." The way he swings the bat, gornischt helfen*. But still ... * = nothing will help, nada puede ayudar, etc. Later

kcmets Oct 30 2022 09:30 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Wheeler: L, 5 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 3 BB and 3 K That's the way, aha, aha I like it, aha, aha That's the way, aha, aha I like it, aha, aha

G-Fafif Oct 30 2022 10:24 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Noah starts Game Three. He is well-rested.

Frayed Knot Oct 30 2022 04:05 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

=G-Fafif post_id=112146 time=1667147068 user_id=55] Noah starts Game Three. He is well-rested.

But the Phils probably aren't counting on him to go very far, like maybe three, four if he's efficient.

Edgy MD Oct 30 2022 07:43 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I have a social media friend and have no idea how I know him, but he's somehow close to Carl Erskine. Close enough that he called Oisk up after Justin Verlander gave up five runs in Game One to let him know that he's no longer the holder of the All-Time worst World Series ERA with over 30 innings pitched. Turns out that Erskine already knew and despite being almost 94, was happy to get the monkey off his back.

G-Fafif Oct 31 2022 05:51 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Rainout pushes Thor to Game Five on Thursda; Sat and Sun are now If Necessary Gqmes Six and Seven.

bmfc1 Oct 31 2022 06:30 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

On Thursday, Houston @ Philadelphia in Game 5 of the Series will go head-to-head with Philadelphia @ Houston of the NFL.

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2022 08:41 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Odd that MLB is not eliminating the second off-day because of the rain out but just shifting to Friday as the 'travel day' (instead of Thursday) and playing 6 & 7 on Saturday & Sunday even though they initially set things up to avoid both Sundays and not go head to head with the NFL Of course it might not get to a game 7 anyway. So, Lance McCullers Jr., not so hot tonight, eh?

MFS62 Nov 02 2022 08:52 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

He was tipping his pitches. When one of the Phills hit a homer, when he came back to the dugout I noticed he called other players over. He let them in on the "tell". Todd Frazier, now an analyst for ESPN showed what it was this morning. On an off speed pitch, he was holding his glove straight up and close to his face. With a fastball the glove was at an angle, and more away from his face. (or the other way around, I forgot) Later

MFS62 Nov 02 2022 06:05 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

No nooooo Noah. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-met-noah-syndergaard-glad-234536452.html Talking about Chase Utley: “I've always admired the way he's played the game,” Syndergaard told Newsday's Tim Healey. “He's a tremendous talent and I'm glad to be able to put on the same uniform as him.” Didn't Benedict Arnold turn traitor in Philadelphia, too? Must be the cheese steaks. Later

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 02 2022 06:10 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Astros home whites are dullsville. The blue with the 🌈 side panels and the orange they are wearing tonight are pretty sharp. Mets undervalue orange in their scheme, fuck around with black instead

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 02 2022 06:13 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Phillies don't look bad in their home whites I dig the font on the names and numerals

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 02 2022 07:51 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Houston busting it open here vs. Nola and now Alvarado. Phil's no-hit thru 4 and 5 in here in the 5th

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2022 07:57 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Most of the runs won't be his, but always nice seeing Alvarado get knocked around.

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2022 08:25 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Would Marsh even be allowed to pitch with that hair? With what looks like about a quart and a half of oil up in that salad, some of that would figure to get on his hands and the ball just by osmosis.

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2022 09:05 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Fillies getting no-hit thru 8 (2 BBs)

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2022 09:19 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

5 - 0 Astros 9 - 1 - 2 for the Phils trying Not to get no-no'ed Houston closer Ryan (not Elvis) Pressly on to attempt to close out a four pitcher no-hit WS game.

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2022 09:23 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Marsh = K Now Schwarber

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2022 09:26 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Schwarber = BB 3rd of the game is for Phiily

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2022 09:38 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

And it's the second ever WS no-no!

Edgy MD Nov 02 2022 10:09 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

What a brutal nut punch to endure at home.

Fman99 Nov 03 2022 04:42 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I enjoy the idea of those fans paying so much money to watch their team not get any hits in a WS game. Maybe some of those same folks were at the game earlier this year where we did the same thing to them. Amazingly, the same starter and closer also were part of a combined no hitter against the MFYs this summer.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 05:38 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Maybe the best part was how LOUD that place was at the start of the game, going nuts with each out and even with each strike in the top of the 1st and Nola mowed 'em down 1-2-3 At the end ... not so much, and Nola didn't even survive the 4th.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 03 2022 06:14 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Good for the Phillies to take a nut punch 👊. Now they're demoralized and cannot win at home. I know I said I was rooting for them because I have Philly friends but I also have Philly enemies so I'm good either way.

MFS62 Nov 03 2022 07:57 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

And ex-Met Montero played a part in it. Later

Edgy MD Nov 03 2022 08:06 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I had Phillie pholks posting photos during the game. "We're HERE and it's WILD and it's all HAPPENING!!" But not a whole lot OF "OW MY NUTS!" posts later.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 10:22 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

I'm still taking the strategy of rooting for whichever side is behind.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 03 2022 06:23 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Thor escaped more danger in the 1st. Schwarzenegger Homer's off Verlander. 1-1 Jose Altuve has no business wearing No 27. He should wear 2 or maybe 5

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 06:37 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Philly playing the infield in to the second batter of the game following a leadoff triple is borderline kooky, no?

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 06:49 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Thor escaped more danger in the 1st. The danger caused by the backfired strategy (they got neither the out nor prevented the run). But following that RBI Single, the Astros haven't hit a fair ball since. [K+CS, K ... K, Foul Out, K,] Jose Altuve has no business wearing No 27. He should wear 2 or maybe 5 Or maybe 1/8

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 08:01 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Probably the last inning for Verlander (5th). He keeps getting quick outs early in innings but then needs a ton of high-stress pitches to get the 3rd out. Result = 95 pitches to get thru the 5th

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 08:25 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Stunning stat learned from tonight's game: J. T. Realmuto caught 230 more innings this year than any other catcher. That's more than 25 games' worth. 133 games started behind the plate plus 3 at 1B and just 3 more at DH. Now, granted, that's not Randy Hundley territory (160 games started in the no-DH/no-night games era at Wrigley Field) but it's this generation's version of it.

bmfc1 Nov 03 2022 08:33 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Impressive, but at least the Mets have McCann through 2024. And those numbers are with him missing two games in TOR because he wouldn't get vaccinated.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 08:56 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Of course he's also sucking big time right now, but to claim cause and effect is probably a stretch

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 09:31 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Not a good night for Rafael Montero: one run in and two more on base while retiring just one.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 10:01 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Harper up vs closer Pressly down 3 - 2 and with two outs in the 9th. And he's HBP Castellanos at the plate as the winning run.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2022 10:05 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Frayed Knot wrote: Castellanos at the plate as the winning run. 6 - 3 to end the game. Pressly was shaken, but not all shook up.

MFS62 Nov 04 2022 07:13 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

All game long I kept thinking, "What ever happened to going the other way"? So many missed opportunities by both teams (including some squeezes). Their lack of fundies gives me a knot in my undies. Later

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2022 02:08 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Last night, the Phils wore their Danny Ozark-era Schmidt/Luzinski/Carlton throwbacks. The powder blue road version of that uni. For a home game. Used to be, baseball teams weren't allowed to wear throwback unis in the WS.

MFS62 Nov 04 2022 02:20 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=112395 time=1667592529 user_id=68] Last night, the Phils wore their Danny Ozark-era Schmidt/Luzinski/Carlton throwbacks. The powder blue road version of that uni. For a home game. Used to be, baseball teams weren't allowed to wear throwback unis in the WS.

Sadly, lots of baseball things used to be, like players knowing how to bunt and starters pitching more than seven innings.

Unis don't appear very high on my list.

Later

batmagadanleadoff Nov 04 2022 02:42 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

=MFS62 post_id=112396 time=1667593206 user_id=60] Sadly, lots of baseball things used to be, like players knowing how to bunt and starters pitching more than seven innings.

I don't agree with the idea that modern starting pitchers are somehow inferior to starters of past eras because modern pitchers don't pitch nearly as many innings in a season.



Times change. Today's athletes, not just in baseball, but in every sport, are far superior to their predecessors. And this is very easy to prove. Just check out track and field records and weightlifting records and in fact, most all Olympian records. They all fall. Most of those records don't last that long. And its easy to compare athletes of different eras when measuring those records because a mile is a mile is the same mile whether it's a 2022 mile or a 1936 mile. Same with weights. A pound is the same pound that weighs the same no matter the year.



Fifty years ago, every team had a Bud Harrelson or a Roger Metzger or a Ray Oyler in their lineup and several weak or struggling hitters that were hardly HR threats. Every team, including the very best. So pitchers could pace themselves. Today's pitchers have to go all out on every batter, on every pitch. Because today's hitters, and all modern athletes in general, are far superior to the athletes of Steve Carlton and Jim Palmer's era. And today's strategy has advanced to the point where it's now understood that it's more efficient for pitchers to go all out on every batter and yield to a reliever earlier -- a reliever who, in turn, could go all out as well.



Nolan Ryan was a freak of an outlier in his day. But today, there are at least two dozen pitchers who could throw 100 MPH pitches.



Personally, I doubt that Tom Seaver or Bob Gibson would be able to regularly pitch close to 300 innings a season in today's game if they were alive today and in their pitching primes.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 04 2022 04:04 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Me, I like the Philly baby blue and burgundy look. Phillies have a pretty strong uniform game. Underrated. Like the Numbers on the sleeve. Nobody does that. You know what else nobody does? Grey numbers That's a unique Mets thing and they just junked it.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2022 06:06 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

In general the powder blues emerged as an alternate to gray in road unis during the '70s & '80s But there were the Phils in Game 5 wearing them at home while visiting Houston has 'Astros' splashed across their bright orange shirts (with gray pants at least). So one can see where this sort of thing can cause agita among those members of the tradition police. Me, I don't get too worked up over this stuff.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2022 07:56 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Schwarber's gonna schwarb. Leads off the 6th w/a ice-breaking HR

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 05 2022 08:13 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Alvarado gonna Alvarado

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2022 08:16 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Wowzers! You can definitely make the case that Alvarado vs the LH-swinging Alvarez was the sound move ... but, man, I'm reluctant to pull Wheeler off a HBP plus a soft single.

bmfc1 Nov 05 2022 08:39 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

But Wheeler gave up two singles and it was lefty-lefty! Somewhere, Dom Smith is smiling at that bomb off Alvarado.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2022 08:52 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Last time Dusty was 2+ innings from a WS championship (10/26/02 - 20 years ago last week): Giants up 5 - 0, top 7th. Russ Ortiz on the mound -- Garrett Anderson - GO -- Troy Glaus - 1B -- Brad Fullmer - 1B ** pitching change ... Dusty famously hands the game ball to Ortiz as he leaves the mound. Felix Rodriguez comes in. -- Scott Spezio - 3R HR - Orlando Palmiero - K ** pitching change, Scott Eyre in -- Adam Kennedy - 1B ** pitching change - Tim Worrell in -- David Eckstein - FO [5 - 3 Giants] Bottom 8 -- Darrin Erstad - Solo HR [5 - 4 SF] -- Tim Salmon - 1B -- Garrett Anderson 1B ** pitching change - Robb Nen in -- Troy Glaus - 2 RBI 2B [6 - 5 LAA] -- Brad Fullmer - K -- Scott Spezio - IW -- Jose Molina - Sac Bunt -- Adam Kennedy K And then Troy Percival closes out SFG 1-2-3 in the 9th Giants would go on to lose Game 7 4 - 1

bmfc1 Nov 05 2022 08:57 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Kyle Schwarber just tried to bunt with two strikes. WTF?

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2022 08:58 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

WTF Schwarber?!? Bunting with 2 outs, bases empty and 2 strikes?????!

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2022 09:07 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Bregman may be out, but there's NO WAY that that's the kind of play replay was designed to "fix". [posted prior to decision being announced]

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2022 09:20 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Good for Dusty!

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2022 09:21 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Rosenthal talking to Altuve. Finally he can look at a ballplayer eye to eye.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2022 10:41 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

And the great void begins.

Edgy MD Nov 05 2022 11:09 PM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

This pushes Dusty Baker Hall-of-Fameward.

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 06 2022 05:49 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Frayed Knot wrote: Last time Dusty was 2+ innings from a WS championship (10/26/02 - 20 years ago last week): Giants up 5 - 0, top 7th. Russ Ortiz on the mound -- Garrett Anderson - GO -- Troy Glaus - 1B -- Brad Fullmer - 1B ** pitching change ... Dusty famously hands the game ball to Ortiz as he leaves the mound. Felix Rodriguez comes in. -- Scott Spezio - 3R HR - Orlando Palmiero - K ** pitching change, Scott Eyre in -- Adam Kennedy - 1B ** pitching change - Tim Worrell in -- David Eckstein - FO [5 - 3 Giants] Bottom 8 -- Darrin Erstad - Solo HR [5 - 4 SF] -- Tim Salmon - 1B -- Garrett Anderson 1B ** pitching change - Robb Nen in -- Troy Glaus - 2 RBI 2B [6 - 5 LAA] -- Brad Fullmer - K -- Scott Spezio - IW -- Jose Molina - Sac Bunt -- Adam Kennedy K And then Troy Percival closes out SFG 1-2-3 din the 9th Giants would go on to lose Game 7 4 - 1 I believe Farmer Ted aka Bubba Sponge and I watched this game together at an UWS bar.

bmfc1 Nov 06 2022 06:14 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Next season, Buck gets his WS ring.

Edgy MD Nov 06 2022 06:25 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Last time Dusty was 2+ innings from a WS championship (10/26/02 - 20 years ago last week): Giants up 5 - 0, top 7th. Russ Ortiz on the mound -- Garrett Anderson - GO -- Troy Glaus - 1B -- Brad Fullmer - 1B ** pitching change ... Dusty famously hands the game ball to Ortiz as he leaves the mound. Felix Rodriguez comes in. -- Scott Spezio - 3R HR - Orlando Palmiero - K ** pitching change, Scott Eyre in -- Adam Kennedy - 1B ** pitching change - Tim Worrell in -- David Eckstein - FO [5 - 3 Giants] Bottom 8 -- Darrin Erstad - Solo HR [5 - 4 SF] -- Tim Salmon - 1B -- Garrett Anderson 1B ** pitching change - Robb Nen in -- Troy Glaus - 2 RBI 2B [6 - 5 LAA] -- Brad Fullmer - K -- Scott Spezio - IW -- Jose Molina - Sac Bunt -- Adam Kennedy K And then Troy Percival closes out SFG 1-2-3 din the 9th Giants would go on to lose Game 7 4 - 1 I believe Farmer Ted aka Bubba Sponge and I watched this game together at an UWS bar. Was this the Chick with the J.T. Show T-Shirt Game?

MFS62 Nov 06 2022 07:01 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Everyone has been lamenting the transition of the game to "Starters go 5, bring in the bullpen and wait for someone to hit a home run". But this series has shown that the hit and run, stolen base and defense are also exciting parts of winning baseball. And fundamentals can be exciting, too. And the team that did those things won. There IS a future for the game as we knew it. Later

Johnny Lunchbucket Nov 06 2022 07:38 AM Re: World Series 2022--Pick A Side

Edgy MD wrote: Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Last time Dusty was 2+ innings from a WS championship (10/26/02 - 20 years ago last week): Giants up 5 - 0, top 7th. Russ Ortiz on the mound -- Garrett Anderson - GO -- Troy Glaus - 1B -- Brad Fullmer - 1B ** pitching change ... Dusty famously hands the game ball to Ortiz as he leaves the mound. Felix Rodriguez comes in. -- Scott Spezio - 3R HR - Orlando Palmiero - K ** pitching change, Scott Eyre in -- Adam Kennedy - 1B ** pitching change - Tim Worrell in -- David Eckstein - FO [5 - 3 Giants] Bottom 8 -- Darrin Erstad - Solo HR [5 - 4 SF] -- Tim Salmon - 1B -- Garrett Anderson 1B ** pitching change - Robb Nen in -- Troy Glaus - 2 RBI 2B [6 - 5 LAA] -- Brad Fullmer - K -- Scott Spezio - IW -- Jose Molina - Sac Bunt -- Adam Kennedy K And then Troy Percival closes out SFG 1-2-3 din the 9th Giants would go on to lose Game 7 4 - 1 I believe Farmer Ted aka Bubba Sponge and I watched this game together at an UWS bar. Was this the Chick with the J.T. Show T-Shirt Game? no JT Snow was a Mets-Giants playoff game