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KC May 04 2006 06:02 PM

Pirates Duffy CF Wilson SS Sanchez 3B Bay LF Burnitz RF Wilson 1B Paulino C Castillo 2B Maholm P Mets Reyes SS Lo Duca C Beltran CF Wright 3B Nady RF Floyd LF Franco 1B Woodward 2B Glavine P

sharpie May 04 2006 06:18 PM

Delgado being punished for hitting walk-off homer.

GYC May 04 2006 06:23 PM

Nady moved ahead of Floyd because of Floyd's slump?

Gwreck May 04 2006 06:28 PM

GYC wrote: Nady moved ahead of Floyd because of Floyd's slump? Also a lefty starting tonight.

OlerudOwned May 04 2006 07:24 PM

It seems like they can't come up with any 2-out, RISP hits lately. Too many jobs half done.

OlerudOwned May 04 2006 07:41 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: It seems like they can't come up with any 2-out, RISP hits lately. Too many jobs half done. Happens again in the second. Wheee. I wonder what the record for most men LOB without scoring a run is?

Gwreck May 04 2006 07:51 PM

Single, walk, single gets us the bases loaded with no outs. Time to cash them in.

cooby May 04 2006 08:04 PM

A run on a walk!

Gwreck May 04 2006 08:10 PM

...but that's it. 7 men left on in first 3 innings. Fortunately, Glavine is sharp tonight. 7Ks in first 4 innings.

Edgy DC May 04 2006 08:12 PM

Aflac trivia: Who was the last Met to hit a walkoff homer in the twefth inning or later. Dumb guess: Ron Gardenhire.

Nymr83 May 04 2006 08:13 PM

nobody out bases loaded and we can't bring a run home? thats bad baseball. (yes i know Nady walked in a run, but after that it was still the same situation, you gotta get more there)

Nymr83 May 04 2006 08:14 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Aflac trivia: Who was the last Met to hit a walkoff homer in the twefth inning or later. Dumb guess: Ron Gardenhire. Does the "Grand Single" count?

GYC May 04 2006 08:16 PM

How many games now?

Gwreck May 04 2006 08:21 PM

7,016 and counting...

Gwreck May 04 2006 08:21 PM

Benny's HR was in the 13th.

Nymr83 May 04 2006 08:24 PM

9 K's in 5 innings. When did Glavine become a strikeout pitcher??

Gwreck May 04 2006 08:25 PM

Intentional walk to the 8th hitter works. Bothers me slightly, though, as Glavine didn't have any walks up to that point. Reminds me of an idea I always meant to pitch to STATS, Inc., that they should recalculate WHIP as Unintentional Walks + Hits + HBP.

OlerudOwned May 04 2006 08:34 PM

This offense is so frustrating. it's like getting to the top of the big hill on a roller coaster and finding out that the ride ends there.

Nymr83 May 04 2006 08:41 PM

Craig Wilson batting with bases loaded thanks to TWO errors and a single.

Nymr83 May 04 2006 08:43 PM

wow. 3-1 changeup. 3-2 changeup. now that takes balls.

Edgy DC May 04 2006 08:43 PM

Amazin' Tom Glavin'.

Gwreck May 04 2006 08:45 PM

Correct answer to the Aflac question is indeed Agbayani...but as for regular-season, that requires going back aways -- last time that happened was 1996.

Gwreck May 04 2006 08:46 PM

97 pitches for Glavine through 6. OE: And with the Woodward single, he stays in to bunt him over.

Nymr83 May 04 2006 08:59 PM

1st and 3rd with nobody out...lets get some runsssssss!

Edgy DC May 04 2006 09:00 PM

Runners at the corner against the bad-assed Solomon Torres, nobody out.

Edgy DC May 04 2006 09:01 PM

Wright busts his third hit and it's 2-0.

Nymr83 May 04 2006 09:04 PM

1 2 3 runs!

ScarletKnight41 May 04 2006 09:04 PM

X-Man Goes 5-0 Mets!

Gwreck May 04 2006 09:04 PM

Xavier Nady VI breaks it open!

OlerudOwned May 04 2006 09:05 PM

Gwreck May 04 2006 09:07 PM

Issuing a warning to the Mets here is such horseshit.

Gwreck May 04 2006 09:17 PM

Rather surprised to see Duaner come in. You'd think 6-0 would be Julio time.

Edgy DC May 04 2006 09:25 PM

Shutouts are valuable things, even if six run pads aren't.

Edgy DC May 04 2006 09:26 PM

Way cool to see a popup by the railing and Met fans backed away from it.

Edgy DC May 04 2006 09:27 PM

Four hits for Wrighty.

Gwreck May 04 2006 09:32 PM

Maybe it's a "closer" thing. Bring in Julio, tell him "pretend it's a 1-run lead, and you're in to close it out."

Edgy DC May 04 2006 09:35 PM

What an answer by Jeromy Burnitz.

Edgy DC May 04 2006 09:38 PM

Julio is really sick. If he gets consistent... wow.

Edgy DC May 04 2006 09:40 PM

Damn, that slider. Wow! Nodody could touch it.

Gwreck May 04 2006 09:50 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Julio is really sick. If he gets consistent... wow. I know, right? 14.33 Innings 27 Strikeouts I mean, damn. Edgy DC wrote: Damn, that slider. Wow! Nodody could touch it. Well, Jeff Francoeur could. But the point holds. He could be awesome.

Johnny Dickshot May 04 2006 10:53 PM

Good time at Big Shea tonite. I've now seen two Met games this year and seem Tom F. Glavine strike out 21 guys and X Nady hit two balls a combined 850 feet. Holy shit! Wright's single to drive in the second run sorta indicated to me he's getting out of the woods offensively. It wasn't a pretty hit but you could see him adjust mid swing and will that thing through the hole. Sent love to Sanchez. Fat chick in Jeter shirt cheering strikes against the Mets went home unhappy. 10 games over 500 for the first time in six years.

metirish May 04 2006 11:22 PM

Cool game to watch on the box, Glavine is pitching from memory it seems, great to see.

Rockin' Doc May 05 2006 06:49 AM

JD - "Good time at Big Shea tonite. I've now seen two Met games this year and seem Tom F. Glavine strike out 21 guys and X Nady hit two balls a combined 850 feet. Holy shit!" Let me be the first to contribute $5 to the Johnny Dickshot Ticket drive. Please help me in ensuring that Johnny is in attendance of as many games at Shea as possible. Great game last night. I'm jealous.

Johnny Dickshot May 05 2006 08:36 AM

Oh, and by the way...

Elster88 May 05 2006 08:47 AM

Nymr83 wrote: nobody out bases loaded and we can't bring a run home? thats bad baseball. Yes.

Elster88 May 05 2006 08:49 AM

Gwreck wrote: Correct answer to the Aflac question is indeed Agbayani...but as for regular-season, that requires going back aways -- last time that happened was 1996. Who?

Elster88 May 05 2006 08:50 AM

Edgy DC wrote: What an answer by Jeromy Burnitz. Agreed. Unfortunately, it's in one ear and out the other.

Edgy DC May 05 2006 09:41 AM

The thing is that he wasn't whining, as so many people seem to accuse anybody who responds to boos (as if provoking a response isn't part of the point. He accepted full responsiblity for his performance, knew full well how his salarly contextualized his performance, stated that he was beating up on himself more than they were, but... it was a miserable time to be so hated when all he wanted to do was perform well, and the negativity of the atmosphere was brutal.

Elster88 May 05 2006 09:47 AM

He also said something along the lines of "you can't understand how it feels until it happens to you". A comment like that also, especially if some fool "reporter" takes it out of context, comes off as whiny. But it really wasn't whiny and makes sense to me. I hope to never have tens of thousands of people booing the hell out of me. I also liked the point that he made that you have the highs aloing with the lows, when you do something good and everyone loves you. In '02 (I think it was his first year with the team), I was at a game where he was getting booed the entire time. Bottom of the ninth, he hits a three run homer to tie it. (I think it was three run anyway, maybe not.) Top of the tenth when he runs out to right, everyone in the seats out there stood up for him and was cheering. I was jealous of that, I still want to be a major league ballplayer. I agree with him, it's easier to handle the boos when you know you can get the cheers too. Problem is, if you're some poor bastard like Doug Sisk who has lost the ability to earn cheers, you're in for a rough year. Edit: As long as we're speaking about handsome men in other threads, I'm Lee Mazzilli.

Johnny Dickshot May 05 2006 10:00 AM

Edgy DC wrote: The thing is that he wasn't whining, as so many people seem to accuse anybody who responds to boos (as if provoking a response isn't part of the point. He accepted full responsiblity for his performance, knew full well how his salarly contextualized his performance, stated that he was beating up on himself more than they were, but... it was a miserable time to be so hated when all he wanted to do was perform well, and the negativity of the atmosphere was brutal. What are you guys talking about?

soupcan May 05 2006 10:03 AM

Edgy DC wrote: The thing is that he wasn't whining, as so many people seem to accuse anybody who responds to boos (as if provoking a response isn't part of the point. He accepted full responsiblity for his performance, knew full well how his salarly contextualized his performance, stated that he was beating up on himself more than they were, but... it was a miserable time to be so hated when all he wanted to do was perform well, and the negativity of the atmosphere was brutal. Agreed. He knew he was making an outrageous sum of money and he knew he stunk. He knew he deserved the boos from the fans, said it wasn't pleasent but accepted it and held no grudges against the fans nor did he act petulant towards them. That's how it should be.

soupcan May 05 2006 10:04 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: What are you guys talking about? Burnitz interveiw snippet about how difficult it was to play here making huge amounts of money, not perform well and be booed.

Frayed Knot May 05 2006 10:05 AM

"What are you guys talking about?" Burnitz was interviewed on that 'Daily News Live' show yesterday and they showed a few clips of it during the game last night, mainly the part where they asked him about the pressures of playing in NYC when things aren't going well.

Johnny Dickshot May 05 2006 10:09 AM

Watching Burnitz struggle in 02 was hard on us too. I like how he flaunts everything they told you in Little League and routinely swings with one hand.

Edgy DC May 05 2006 10:18 AM

I went looking for the interview, but MLB.tv, despite giving me the Metscast last night, is giving me the Buccast on replay. It was about the sixth seventh inning, for those of you who can get a SNY or Tivo replay. Glavine was just wicked last night. I don't get it. Since he got here, I looked at him and Trax as guys without an "out-pitch," so they had to be perfect in speed and location, because they didn't have a pitch that was so hard to hit they could let it rip when they were behind the count, or have somebody desperately defending against when they were ahead. It seems like he does now. I think and hope maybe Pedro is infectious.

Yancy Street Gang May 05 2006 10:28 AM

Maybe Pedro can start breathing on Zambrano.

metirish May 05 2006 11:23 AM

Burnitz also said the idea that playing bad in NY is tougher than say playing crab in Pittsburgh is basically BS, you still get booed, still it was a good interview.

Gwreck May 05 2006 11:25 AM

Elster88 wrote: ="Gwreck"]Correct answer to the Aflac question is indeed Agbayani...but as for regular-season, that requires going back aways -- last time that happened was 1996. Who? Hundley, 7/30/96, 2nd game of a doubleheader, walk-off in the 12th.

Edgy DC May 05 2006 11:31 AM

I'm not certain, but I think I inadvertantly deleted and Elster88 post when I meant to delete one of my own. All apologies to Elster and any other wounded parties if this is so.

Centerfield May 05 2006 11:33 AM

Darling made a point that bringing in Julio to finish the game may be a boost to his confidence. He closes out a shutout, gets to be involved in a win, and shakes hands as if he is the closer. Interesting point. I hope there is some carry-over.

metirish May 05 2006 11:35 AM

Yes and Lo Duca talking to Julio after the final SO like he was the closer, lets hope this keeps up, we'll need him in tight spots during the season.

soupcan May 05 2006 11:48 AM

="Elster88"]If he realizes already how badly he is performing, and is beating himself up more than you ever could, what on earth is the point of your booing? Isn't it (booing) really just to make yourself (the booer) feel better at the expense of how the player is feeling? The two questions in that last paragraph (especially the first in that couple) is the one I'm most curious about finding the answer to. OTOH, we've had this back and forth before. Yes we have beaten the crap out of this argument but I'll humor you. If he realizes already how badly he is performing, and is beating himself up more than you ever could, what on earth is the point of your booing? Maybe the point is expressing frustration and reminded the player just how blessed he is. The player is making $100 million no matter how bad he's doing. Average Joe is busting his ass every day to pay his bills. If Joe doesn't perform Joe doesn't get paid. If the player doesn't perform he still buys another Bentley in the offseason. I'll admit that a lot of it is jealousy. Fans think that if someone is being so well paid to play a game - no matter how poorly they play - that it is unfair, and this is how they express that. In the real world no matter how hard you work if you are not successful you don't get paid. Not necessarily so in sports. Isn't it (booing) really just to make yourself (the booer) feel better at the expense of how the player is feeling? Booing doesn't make me feel better or worse. It's just an expression. I for one think that if a player has the balls to sign a contract like that then he is making the statement that he has the intestinal fortitude to overcome any sad feelings he might get if he is booed because he is not performing up to the standards set by him when he signed that deal. If he doesn't have that kind of grit then too bad for his feelings - he shouldn't have signed that deal. He's still going to be retired by 40 and set up future generations of his family for the rest of their lives. Kinda hard to feel bad for a guy like that.

Elster88 May 05 2006 11:51 AM

]Kinda hard to feel bad for a guy like that. True.

Elster88 May 05 2006 11:52 AM

Part of the post that got deleted is the one soupy responded to. So it will still live on forever in quoted form.

Centerfield May 05 2006 11:55 AM

Hail!!!! I mean, Super Hail!!!

metirish May 05 2006 11:56 AM

ALL Hail the Super Seaver post....

Elster88 May 05 2006 11:57 AM

That picture scares me for some reason. I feel like he's about to throw a BB at my head.

Elster88 May 05 2006 12:02 PM

NY Times wrote: As Nady strode to the plate, Delgado whispered to Glavine that Nady would hit a home run. Nady clocked Torres's third pitch. It kept going and going, and landed 430 feet away, beyond the center-field fence. The television cameras flashed Delgado and Glavine, two cogs in the Mets' strong start, laughing in the dugout, laughing about another soon-to-be victory.

metirish May 05 2006 12:03 PM

They were hugging each other, and then Glavine gave a sort of fist pump, like a hell yeah some runs to work with.