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Where Mets rank in 2023

Benjamin Grimm Jan 13 2023 09:59 AM

Might as well get this one started. I found categories where current Mets players rank in the Top Fifty. In offensive categories, it's a lot of Nimmo, Alonso, and McNeil, with the occasional Lindor. There's very little longevity among pitchers now that deGrom and Lugo have departed. These are the guys who we hope to see moving up in the ranks this season: BATTING Games: Brandon Nimmo 39th (608) Pete Alonso 46th (530) Jeff McNeil 47th (516) At Bats: Brandon Nimmo 37th (1,973) Pete Alonso 38th (1,963) Jeff McNeil 43rd (1,837) Runs: Brandon Nimmo 21st (335) Pete Alonso 27th (310) Jeff McNeil 40th (258) Hits: Jeff McNeil 31st (563) Brandon Nimmo 34th (530) Pete Alonso 39th (512) Doubles: Jeff McNeil 21st (121) Brandon Nimmo 29th (tie, with C. Granderson, 106) Pete Alonso 45th (tie, with B. Gilkey, 90) Triples: Brandon Nimmo 11th (tie, with A. Pagan, 23) Jeff McNeil 49th (tie, with four other players, 9) Home Runs: Pete Alonso 7th (146) Brandon Nimmo 33rd (tie, with J. Olerud, 63) Jeff McNeil and Francisco Lindor 45th (tie, with three other players, 46) Runs Batted In: Pete Alonso 17th (380) Jeff McNeil 45th (tie, with B. Huskey, 214) Brandon Nimmo 47th (213) Walks: Brandon Nimmo 20th (tie, with J. Stearns, 323) Pete Alonso 33rd (223) Strikeouts: Brandon Nimmo 17th (529) Pete Alonso 20th (499) Total Bases: Pete Alonso 22nd (1,050) Brandon Nimmo 35th (871) Jeff McNeil 37th (840) Extra-Base Hits: Pete Alonso 17th (241) Brandon Nimmo 29th (192) Jeff McNeil 32nd (176) Stolen Bases: Francisco Lindor 43rd (tied with two other players, 26) Brandon Nimmo 48th (tied with two other players, 23) PITCHING Games: Edwin Diaz 25th (216) Strikeouts: Edwin Diaz 48th (356) Saves: Edwin Diaz 6th (96)

duan Jan 13 2023 10:13 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

even with 5 years to come Diaz would have to do very well to catch John Franco @ 276 Nimmo would seem to have a good chance at the walks if he stays the 8 years - and Pete the dingers with an extra 2/3 years.

kcmets Jan 13 2023 10:13 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Jeff McNeil, Professional Met!

batmagadanleadoff Jan 13 2023 11:04 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

With deGrom having left for his comfort zone, the slavery belt, that list is now so uninteresting, other than Alonso's meteoric rise up the Mets all-time HR ranks. I'll check back in in a coupl'a years.

metsmarathon Jan 13 2023 12:01 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

lindor should be on most of those offensive lists by the end of the season.

Edgy MD Jan 13 2023 12:10 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Here's the category where the contemporary class really shines. Times Hit by Pitch 1) Brandon Nimmo: 57 2) Pete Alonso: 51 3) Jeff McNeil: 50 (tied with Michael Conforto) 14) Mark Canha: 28 (tied with Jeff Kent and John Olerud) 43) Francisco Lindor: 15 (tied with Tommie Agee, Benny Agbayani, Justin Turner, Wilmer Flores, and Yoenis Cespedes) 53) Starling Marte: 13 (tied with Frank Thomas, Lee Mazzilli, Howard Johnson, Carl Everett, Carlos Beltran, and Asdrubal Cabrera)

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2023 07:30 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Pete Alonso currently projects to 90 home runs and 180 runs batted in.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 17 2023 08:01 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Look who just tied Dave Kingman on the Mets' all-time home run list: 1. Darryl Strawberry 252 2. David Wright 242 3. Mike Piazza 220 4. Howard Johnson 192 5. Dave Kingman, Pete Alonso 154 7. Carlos Beltran 149 8. Michael Conforto 132 9. Lucas Duda 125 10. Todd Hundley 124 If the Mets extend him, he'll have a shot at setting a new record in 2025.

Edgy MD Apr 17 2023 09:20 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Kingman is the only guy on that list besides Strawberry who is a former franchise leader.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 17 2023 09:29 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

The Mets all-time HR record is extremely underwhelming for a 60 year old franchise.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 17 2023 09:30 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

I agree. I hope Pete sticks around long enough to whelm it up a bit.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 17 2023 09:32 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Edgy MD wrote: Kingman is the only guy on that list besides Strawberry who is a former franchise leader. Yes. The list is pretty much Dave Kingman and eight guys who never caught up to Darryl Strawberry.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 17 2023 09:40 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Kingman is the only guy on that list besides Strawberry who is a former franchise leader. Yes. The list is pretty much Dave Kingman and eight guys who never caught up to Darryl Strawberry. That's real quirky. But not as quirky as no Met ever winning the league MVP award.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2023 08:34 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Look who just tied Dave Kingman on the Mets' all-time home run list: 1. Darryl Strawberry 252 2. David Wright 242 3. Mike Piazza 220 4. Howard Johnson 192 5. Dave Kingman, Pete Alonso 154 7. Carlos Beltran 149 8. Michael Conforto 132 9. Lucas Duda 125 10. Todd Hundley 124 If the Mets extend him, he'll have a shot at setting a new record in 2025. Strawberry became the Mets all-time HR leader almost 35 years ago to the day, on April 20, 1988, when he hit his 155th Met HR off of the Phillies' Shane Rawley, passing then all-time HR leader, Dave Kingman.

Edgy MD Apr 18 2023 08:42 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Few would have guessed that Kingman had another 100 homers left in his bat when the Mets released him, and probably at least a few more when MLB collusion ended his career for good. If the Mets had a DH slot to use, Kingman might theoretically still be the leader. (Or alternatively, if the Mets had a DH slot, Rusty Staub would have theoretically reached 3000 hits and 300 homers and theoretically been in the Hall of Fame.)

G-Fafif Apr 20 2023 08:52 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

No. 20 is now No. 5, directly behind No. 20 , 4-baggerwise.

Johnny Lunchbucket Apr 21 2023 02:07 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

At this rate he'll capture Hojo this year

G-Fafif Apr 21 2023 04:40 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

This is the first day since September 3, 1976, that Dave Kingman doesn't have one of the top five home run totals in Mets history. Dave tied Ron Swoboda for fifth on 9/4 and passed him on 9/6.

Benjamin Grimm May 31 2023 02:30 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Pete Alonso started the year with 380 runs batted in. So far, he's climbed past Dave Kingman, Michael Conforto, Todd Hundley, Rusty Staub, and Daniel Murphy and has moved from 17th place to 12th. ALL-TIME METS LEADERS IN RUNS BATTED IN 1. David Wright 970 2. Darryl Strawberry 733 3. Mike Piazza 655 4. Howard Johnson 629 5. Ed Kranepool 614 6. Carlos Beltran 559 7. Edgardo Alfonzo 538 8. Cleon Jones 521 Jose Reyes 521 10. Keith Hernandez 468 11. Kevin McReynolds 456 12. Pete Alonso 426 13. Daniel Murphy 402 14. Rusty Staub 399 15. Todd Hundley 397 16. Michael Conforto 396 17. Dave Kingman 389 18. Lucas Duda 378 19. George Foster 361 20. Jerry Grote 357 Pete has 20 home runs to date this year, but only four doubles and one triple. His 25 extra-base hits have moved him from 17th place to 15th. He has passed Keith Hernandez and Todd Hundley. EXTRA-BASE HITS 1. David Wright 658 2. Jose Reyes 493 3. Darryl Strawberry 469 4. Howard Johnson 424 5. Mike Piazza 415 6. Carlos Beltran 374 7. Ed Kranepool 368 8. Edgardo Alfonzo 346 9. Daniel Murphy 310 10. Cleon Jones 308 11. Mookie Wilson 292 12. Kevin McReynolds 289 13. Michael Conforto 277 14. Lucas Duda 274 15. Pete Alonso 266 16. Keith Hernandez 249 Todd Hundley 249 18. Lee Mazzilli 238 19. Dave Kingman 230 20. Curtis Granderson 213 His 115 total bases have allowed him to advance from 22nd place to 18th, passing Dave Kingman, Rusty Staub, Todd Hundley, and Lucas Duda. TOTAL BASES 1. David Wright 2,945 2. Jose Reyes 2,356 3. Ed Kranepool 2,047 4. Darryl Strawberry 2,028 5. Mike Piazza 1,885 6. Howard Johnson 1,823 7. Edgardo Alfonzo 1,736 8. Cleon Jones 1,715 9. Mookie Wilson 1,586 10. Carlos Beltran 1,567 11. Daniel Murphy 1,421 12. Keith Hernandez 1,358 13. Kevin McReynolds 1,338 14. Jerry Grote 1,278 15. Bud Harrelson 1,260 16. Michael Conforto 1,195 17. Lee Mazzilli 1,192 18. Pete Alonso 1,165 19. Lucas Duda 1,141 20. Todd Hundley 1,116 21. Rusty Staub 1,078 22. Dave Kingman 1,053

Edgy MD Sep 04 2023 12:26 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Homers in a Season by a Met 1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53 Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 48.48 T2) Todd Hundley (1996): 41 T2) Carlos Beltran (2006): 41 T2) Pete Alonso (2023): 41 T5) Mike Piazza (1999): 40 T5) Pete Alonso (2022): 40 T7) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 39 T7) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 39 T9) Howard Johnson (1991): 38 T9) Mike Piazza (2000): 38 T9) Carlos Delgado (2006): 38 T9) Carlos Delgado (2008): 38

batmagadanleadoff Sep 04 2023 12:32 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

I've got Alonso on pace for 49.01 HR's, because he missed nine games due to an injury. My calculation assumes he won't get injured anymore. The formula is (41 x (162-9)) / (137-9).

Frayed Knot Sep 05 2023 07:36 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

So Alonso is now 62 HRs behind Straw's franchise record and still has 20+ games to go this year to chop that down a bit more. That means that there's a possibility of equalizing or bettering the mark by the end of next season. Assuming that ... y'know, he's still here come April.

Edgy MD Sep 12 2023 06:46 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Homers in a Season by a Met 1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53 Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 49.85 2) Pete Alonso (2023): 44 T3) Todd Hundley (1996): 41 T3) Carlos Beltran (2006): 41 T5) Mike Piazza (1999): 40 T5) Pete Alonso (2022): 40 T7) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 39 T7) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 39 T9) Howard Johnson (1991): 38 T9) Mike Piazza (2000): 38 T9) Carlos Delgado (2006): 38 T9) Carlos Delgado (2008): 38

Edgy MD Sep 12 2023 08:20 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Homers in a Season by a Mets Rookie 1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53 Francisco Alvarez Projected to End of Season: 27.22 2) Darryl Strawberry (1983): 26 3) Francisco Alvarez (2023): 22 T4) Ron Swoboda (1965): 19 T4) Ike Davis (2010): 19 T6) John Milner (1972): 17 T6) Jay Payton (2000): 17 8) Johnny Lewis (1965): 15 T9) Benny Agbayani (1999): 14 T9) David Wright (2004): 14

Benjamin Grimm Sep 13 2023 03:00 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Jeff McNeil has moved into the Top Twenty all-time in base hits. He should pass Rusty Staub this year, and maybe Rey Ordonez. Brandon Nimmo is in 22nd place, and Pete Alonso in 28th. HITS 1. David Wright 1,777 2. Jose Reyes 1,534 3. Ed Kranepool 1,418 4. Cleon Jones 1,188 5. Edgardo Alfonzo 1,136 6. Mookie Wilson 1,112 7. Bud Harrelson 1,029 8. Mike Piazza 1,028 9. Darryl Strawberry 1,025 10. Howard Johnson 997 11. Jerry Grote 994 12. Daniel Murphy 967 13. Keith Hernandez 939 14. Carlos Beltran 878 15. Lee Mazzilli 796 16. Kevin McReynolds 791 17. Felix Millan 743 18. Rey Ordonez 720 19. Rusty Staub 709 20. Jeff McNeil 705 21. John Stearns 695 22. Brandon Nimmo 672 23. Wally Backman 670 24. Wayne Garrett 667 25. Michael Conforto 650 26. Hubie Brooks 640 27. Tommie Agee 632 28. Pete Alonso 623 29. Lucas Duda 614 30. Todd Hundley 612 DOUBLES Nimmo and McNeil are both in the Top Twenty. 1. David Wright 390 2. Jose Reyes 272 3. Daniel Murphy 228 4. Ed Kranepool 225 5. Howard Johnson 214 6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212 7. Carlos Beltran 208 8. Mike Piazza 193 9. Darryl Strawberry 187 10. Cleon Jones 182 11. Mookie Wilson 170 12. Keith Hernandez 159 13. Kevin McReynolds 153 14. John Stearns 152 15. Lee Mazzilli 148 16. Lucas Duda 146 17. Jerry Grote 143 Jeff McNeil 143 19. Michael Conforto 141 20. Brandon Nimmo 131 RUNS Nimmo and Alonso are in the Top Twenty, and McNeil is in 24th place. 1. David Wright 949 2. Jose Reyes 885 3. Darryl Strawberry 662 4. Howard Johnson 627 5. Edgardo Alfonzo 614 6. Mookie Wilson 592 7. Cleon Jones 563 8. Carlos Beltran 551 9. Ed Kranepool 536 10. Mike Piazza 532 11. Bud Harrelson 490 12. Keith Hernandez 455 13. Daniel Murphy 422 14. Brandon Nimmo 415 15. Kevin McReynolds 405 16. Lee Mazzilli 404 17. Michael Conforto 400 18. Pete Alonso 392 19. Wayne Garrett 389 20. Wally Backman 359 21. Tommie Agee 344 22. Todd Hundley 340 23. John Stearns 334 24. Jeff McNeil 326 25. Lucas Duda 325 RUNS BATTED IN Pete Alonso has knocked Keith Hernandez out of the Top Ten. 1. David Wright 970 2. Darryl Strawberry 733 3. Mike Piazza 655 4. Howard Johnson 629 5. Ed Kranepool 614 6. Carlos Beltran 559 7. Edgardo Alfonzo 538 8. Cleon Jones 521 Jose Reyes 521 10. Pete Alonso 485 11. Keith Hernandez 468 12. Kevin McReynolds 456 13. Daniel Murphy 402 14. Rusty Staub 399 15. Todd Hundley 397

Frayed Knot Sep 13 2023 06:15 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Be an interesting long term bet as to how those three ultimately place in all-time NYM records in some of those categories. - McNeil is the hit guy but also the oldest and has a shorter contract than Nimmo - Nimmo's walk totals draw away some hits but that's lessening somewhat just as his power inches up - Pete is the youngest and obviously the most power, but has just one more year of team control so beyond that is speculative

Edgy MD Sep 13 2023 07:08 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

McNeil is not only the oldest and operating without a contract beyond 2026, he also doesn't really have a clear position going forward.

Gwreck Sep 14 2023 12:16 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Edgy MD wrote: McNeil is not only the oldest and operating without a contract beyond 2026, he also doesn't really have a clear position going forward. I doubt that's an issue. Take 2019 for an example: McNeil did not lead the team in innings at any of his defensive positions, but was still fourth on the team in plate appearances. And that was before the DH slot.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 14 2023 12:19 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

If McNeil plays regularly over the last three years of his contract, he can get into the top four or five in the Hits category.

Edgy MD Sep 14 2023 01:47 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Edgy MD wrote: McNeil is not only the oldest and operating without a contract beyond 2026, he also doesn't really have a clear position going forward. I doubt that's an issue. Take 2019 for an example: McNeil did not lead the team in innings at any of his defensive positions, but was still fourth on the team in plate appearances. And that was before the DH slot. That may be so. But the three young players entering the picture may have more staying power than a single Canó. As noted elsewhere, I'm kind of rooting for him to take over at third, with Batientos starting 2024 primarily at DH, but we'll see.

Gwreck Sep 15 2023 07:28 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Edgy MD wrote: That may be so. But the three young players entering the picture may have more staying power than a single Canó. I had to look it up to confirm but he McNeil actually played more in both left and right field in 2019 than he did at second. As noted elsewhere, I'm kind of rooting for him to take over at third, with Batientos starting 2024 primarily at DH, but we'll see. Interesting. I'd have to think left field is wide open too. My preference has always been for the Mets to fill a championship caliber starting lineup without even considering a position for McNeil. And then deploy him as needed around the diamond as the situations call for it.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 15 2023 08:15 AM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

I suspect that McNeil will play more games in the outfield than the infield in 2024, unless Baty falters.

Edgy MD Sep 15 2023 07:00 PM Re: Where Mets rank in 2023

Homers in a Season by a Met 1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53 Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 49.59 2) Pete Alonso (2023): 45 T3) Todd Hundley (1996): 41 T3) Carlos Beltran (2006): 41 T5) Mike Piazza (1999): 40 T5) Pete Alonso (2022): 40 T7) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 39 T7) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 39 T9) Howard Johnson (1991): 38 T9) Mike Piazza (2000): 38 T9) Carlos Delgado (2006): 38 T9) Carlos Delgado (2008): 38