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Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Benjamin Grimm Feb 01 2023 12:27 PM

Mets' Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend Khalil Lee, an outfielder on the Mets' 40-man roster, has been accused of physical and verbal abuse by his ex-girlfriend, according to a report on Wednesday. Syracuse police issued a warrant for Lee, 24, on the charge of criminal obstruction of breath, Syracuse.com reported. A lawsuit filed in federal court on Wednesday also named Lee on allegations that he abused his former girlfriend while playing for the Triple-A Syracuse Mets last season. Major League Baseball has opened an investigation to look into the allegations. “The Mets immediately notified MLB upon becoming aware of the allegations,” the Mets said in a statement. “We will fully comply with MLB's policy and cannot comment until the completion of the league's investigative process.”

Edgy MD Feb 01 2023 12:51 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Obstruction of breath. Shikey.

nymr83 Feb 01 2023 12:52 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Shit.

MFS62 Feb 01 2023 01:01 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

"Obstruction of breath? Baseball players have been choking for years. But only themselves. Sounds like they're using a fancy word to avoid using strangulation. Later

A Boy Named Seo Feb 01 2023 01:37 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Eh, that joke, 62. :-/ "Obstruction of breathing" is in the New York Penal Code, btw. I hope she's ok and MLB and Mets do the right thing here.

nymr83 Feb 01 2023 02:42 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Eh, that joke, 62. :-/ "Obstruction of breathing" is in the New York Penal Code, btw. I hope she's ok and MLB and Mets do the right thing here. And by "the right thing" I hope you mean, "not rush to judgment, hear both sides of the story, and place him on paid leave while the legal process plays out"

Edgy MD Feb 01 2023 03:13 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Well, teams and/or leagues frequently undertake their own investigations and act according to their own conclusions. And they are certainly justified in doing so, as their policies may not align perfectly with the law's. Nor may their priorities, burden of proof, rules of admissibility, etc. be the same. Zack Scott, for instance, lost his job, but was ultimately found not guilty. I may agree or disagree with the team's decision, but they are certainly within their rights to act independently of the court's outcome.

MFS62 Feb 01 2023 03:24 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

And by "the right thing" I hope you mean, "not rush to judgment, hear both sides of the story, and place him on paid leave while the legal process plays out" This ^. Later

A Boy Named Seo Feb 01 2023 03:42 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Eh, that joke, 62. :-/ "Obstruction of breathing" is in the New York Penal Code, btw. I hope she's ok and MLB and Mets do the right thing here. And by "the right thing" I hope you mean, "not rush to judgment, hear both sides of the story, and place him on paid leave while the legal process plays out" I hope anyone deciding anything carefully considers all evidence before rendering their judgement. And if enough evidence is there to determine he was violent with his then-girlfriend, I hope the league and the Mets make an extremely clear point of demonstrating that they won't tolerate that shit.

whippoorwill Feb 01 2023 04:19 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Sigh Where do these people crawl from?

whippoorwill Feb 01 2023 04:21 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

FYI for any newbies I am on record for defending these guys against skanky girls but this sounds a bit more specific

nymr83 Feb 01 2023 06:12 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Edgy MD wrote: Well, teams and/or leagues frequently undertake their own investigations and act according to their own conclusions. And they are certainly justified in doing so, as their policies may not align perfectly with the law's. Nor may their priorities, burden of proof, rules of admissibility, etc. be the same. Zack Scott, for instance, lost his job, but was ultimately found not guilty. I may agree or disagree with the team's decision, but they are certainly within their rights to act independently of the court's outcome. Yeah, Zack was put on leave pending the legal process. Everything I read, though I doubt this would ever be officially stated, is that the reason he was fired prior to the conclusion of that process is that he and/or his attorneys were uncooperative assholes with Steve Cohen's attorneys - which seems like a good reason for an owner of a business to get rid of their executives.

nymr83 Feb 01 2023 06:13 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

FYI for any newbies I am on record for defending these guys against skanky girls but this sounds a bit more specific I'm on the record for "hang them from a tree"... but only if we know for sure they are guilty.

Fman99 Feb 01 2023 06:53 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I prefer my Syracuse Mets related news headlines to be less chokey and murdery than this

whippoorwill Feb 01 2023 08:05 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Yeah like RBIs and ERAs

A Boy Named Seo Feb 02 2023 12:00 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

FYI for any newbies I am on record for defending these guys against skanky girls but this sounds a bit more specific I'm on the record for "hang them from a tree"... but only if we know for sure they are guilty. I'm not on record for hanging anyone from a tree, especially a Black player (I'm sure you didn't mean it that way but that reads badly in this case). But if he is guilty, I hope at age 24, there is still time for him to figure out why violence was the option he chose against his girlfriend and learn how to ID that emotion and not do that same thing again in his life. I hope there is a path to redemption for him and still hope he can be a good person to other people. As for playing professional baseball, that's always sketchier for me. That profession is an extreme privilege, so I don't know what it would look like to retain (or re-attain) that privilege, but I would think it would have to be a stew that has most or all of these ingredients: 1) admission of guilt 2) legit remorse (what is legit? I don't know) 3) sincere apology to victim 4) serve suspension/jail time 5) therapy/DV education 6) continued work in those spaces after career resumes 7) other stuff I missed? I said before that I hope the league and the Mets make a clear point in demonstrating that they don't tolerate violence against women. So where do you go if you want to give a remorseful and rehabilitated person a second chance? I don't know. I don't blame any team that doesn't want to sign a player who has committed DV. If there's a surefire way to make sure women (and male allies) do not want to consume your product, it's to put a person who has been violent to women right in front of them. IF a team wanted to sign a guy who's done this, I think they should be out front in acknowledging the charge and the team should also join the player in doing work in education and support spaces. If you're going to go in, go all in on the rehabilitation, but more importantly, also be an ally and work for the victims. I can absolutely see the flaws in that plan, though. Which direction does everyone else's moral compass swing on this? Doing something is easy. Doing the right thing is hard.

Edgy MD Feb 02 2023 12:09 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I appreciate a thoughtful response. Zero tolerance policies often are about PR, but don't really curb the incidents, and certainly don't address the underlying cultural issues.

nymr83 Feb 04 2023 06:22 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

For sure any team that doesn't want to hire the guy because of the perception alive is entitled to that. Not at all the same as ripping up an existing contract and punishing a guy not convicted of anything.

Gwreck Feb 05 2023 04:25 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

=nymr83 post_id=117766 time=1675560129 user_id=54]ripping up an existing contract and punishing a guy not convicted of anything.

I think we know better here than to throw around terms such as a “ripping up an existing contract.” That hardly explains the situation.



To be clear, no player investigated and/or disciplined pursuant to MLB's Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy has ever had their contract “ripped up.”



In fact, compliance with that policy is a requirement of MLB contracts. The commissioner's powers to investigate and discipline (including a standard of proof lower than in criminal court), the right to neutral arbitration as appeal — these are all procedures negotiated and agreed to by MLB and the union (note “Joint” in the title of the policy itself).

metirish Feb 06 2023 04:24 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1622734521991938055[/TWEET]

bmfc1 Feb 06 2023 04:27 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Sam Coonrod seems like a real piece of work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Coonrod

nymr83 Feb 06 2023 05:45 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Sam Coonrod seems like a real piece of work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Coonrod Wikipedia is a trainwreck sometimes. What could easily be expressed in a nice neat table over at baseball reference is instead expanded into 20 paragraphs that don't really say anything other than a long form version of a player's statistics.

TransMonk Feb 06 2023 05:48 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

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bmfc1 Feb 06 2023 05:56 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 06 2023 07:44 PM

True, however does this suffice? https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/giants-sam-coonrod-sticks-decision-stand-during-blm-ceremony Or this? https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2020/07/24/sam-coonrod-giants-reliever-why-he-didnt-kneel-blm-moment/5500442002/ Sam Coonrod seems like a real piece of work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Coonrod Wikipedia is a trainwreck sometimes. What could easily be expressed in a nice neat table over at baseball reference is instead expanded into 20 paragraphs that don't really say anything other than a long form version of a player's statistics.

Marshmallowmilkshake Feb 06 2023 07:32 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I actually got blocked from Wikipedia two weeks ago -- for deleting long outdated an inaccurate information about my employer and replacing it with updated and accurate information. A seemingly self-appointed Wikipedia cop/troll accused me and a team member of being "sock puppets" and deleted all that we added, then reported us to the Wikipedia brass, such as it is, which then blocked us from posting on the page. Apparently you don't want people who actually know things about topics posting about it. I looked on the troll's "talk" page and it looks like he spends his days attacking people who post, especially about education. We'll wait a month, create new accounts, then add the right info a little at a time.

kcmets Feb 06 2023 07:53 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

This thread has derailed a few times and all it took was one page.

nymr83 Feb 06 2023 09:20 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I actually got blocked from Wikipedia two weeks ago -- for deleting long outdated an inaccurate information about my employer and replacing it with updated and accurate information. A seemingly self-appointed Wikipedia cop/troll accused me and a team member of being "sock puppets" and deleted all that we added, then reported us to the Wikipedia brass, such as it is, which then blocked us from posting on the page. Apparently you don't want people who actually know things about topics posting about it. I looked on the troll's "talk" page and it looks like he spends his days attacking people who post, especially about education. We'll wait a month, create new accounts, then add the right info a little at a time. This is wikipedia in a nutshell.

nymr83 Feb 06 2023 09:21 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

True, however does this suffice? https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/giants-sam-coonrod-sticks-decision-stand-during-blm-ceremony Or this? https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2020/07/24/sam-coonrod-giants-reliever-why-he-didnt-kneel-blm-moment/5500442002/ Sam Coonrod seems like a real piece of work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Coonrod Wikipedia is a trainwreck sometimes. What could easily be expressed in a nice neat table over at baseball reference is instead expanded into 20 paragraphs that don't really say anything other than a long form version of a player's statistics. So he refused to take a knee in support of other peoples' political views? good for him.

A Boy Named Seo Feb 07 2023 09:17 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Raley and Coonrod sound like a shitty country band opening for Morgan Wallen at the CPAC cocktail party. Instead it's the New York Mets bullpen.

Fman99 Feb 07 2023 10:04 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Coonrod sounds like a shitass to me.

Edgy MD Feb 07 2023 11:41 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Lee was pretty much hanging on to the edge of the roster when this story broke, so he was quite possibly the next up to be DFA'd whether or not the transaction is related to the report.

nymr83 Feb 08 2023 07:14 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Edgy MD wrote: Lee was pretty much hanging on to the edge of the roster when this story broke, so he was quite possibly the next up to be DFA'd whether or not the transaction is related to the report. I would say the transaction is 99.9999999999% likely to be based solely on the allegations. He was arguably still the best plan in the organization for a prolonged Nimmo absense

Gwreck Feb 08 2023 07:31 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

=nymr83 post_id=117903 time=1675865657 user_id=54]I would say the transaction is 99.9999999999% likely to be based solely on the allegations. He was arguably

Your point falls apart when you juxtapose “99.999999999%” and “arguably.”



Also, the best alternative in the event of an extended Nimmo absence is Marte (or Canha) in center, Baty at third, Escobar at second, and McNeil in the outfield.

Edgy MD Feb 08 2023 08:31 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Abraham Almonte, D.J. Stewart, Lorenzo Cedrola, and Tim Locastro have also demonstrated capability.

A Boy Named Seo Feb 08 2023 09:00 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Edgy MD wrote: Lee was pretty much hanging on to the edge of the roster when this story broke, so he was quite possibly the next up to be DFA'd whether or not the transaction is related to the report. I would say the transaction is 99.9999999999% likely to be based solely on the allegations. He was arguably still the best plan in the organization for a prolonged Nimmo absense Why? His 692 OPS at AAA last year didn't scream "Khalil Lee is the answer!!!" And Pham is the next guy up in the case of anyone's extended absence. If it's Nimmo out hurt, Canha (or maybe Marte) would see lots of CF. It very likely wouldn't have been Khalil Lee getting all the ABs anyway.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 08 2023 09:10 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I think it was more likely that Lee would have had a shot at Marte's job after he aged out. But that's a few years off and the Mets will have time to cultivate other options between now and then. They certainly didn't have all of their eggs in Lee's basket.

Edgy MD Feb 08 2023 09:58 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I know a Met, a Met called Tommy Tommy Pham! I hope he can swing the salami Wham! Bam! But he hasn't shown me his game Oh no Not me [FIMG=250]https://img2.annthegran.com/stockdesign/xlarge/ann_the_gran/atg9869.jpg[/FIMG]

G-Fafif Feb 10 2023 07:59 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Lee cleared waivers and has been outrighted to Syracuse.

Fman99 Feb 11 2023 04:08 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

=G-Fafif post_id=118116 time=1676084388 user_id=55] Lee cleared waivers and has been outrighted to Syracuse.

Oh, good, welcome back

nymr83 Feb 11 2023 04:14 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

=Fman99 post_id=118121 time=1676113695 user_id=86] =G-Fafif post_id=118116 time=1676084388 user_id=55] Lee cleared waivers and has been outrighted to Syracuse.

Oh, good, welcome back


So the Mets were really just taking the opportunity to open a spot on the 40 figuring nobody would dare claim him right now?

Lefty Specialist Feb 11 2023 08:33 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I'm guessing that Pete Alonso has a better chance of playing center field this year than Khalil Lee does.

G-Fafif Feb 18 2023 10:04 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

From DiComo: News: MLB's investigation of Khalil Lee is ongoing, but the league has approved of him reporting to Minor League camp on March 2. Lee is under investigation for an alleged domestic incident in Syracuse last summer.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 20 2023 08:25 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

NJ.com wrote: Lee kicked her in the thigh causing her to fall down, her lawsuit claims. ... After Lee called her ugly, (the victim) slapped Lee in the face and walked away, she says. Lee then grabbed (the victim's) box braids and “yanked her backward” causing her to hit the kitchen island, she alleges. (The victim) felt Lee's hand around her neck but could not breathe or speak to tell him to let her go, she claims. After around 10 to 15 seconds, Lee let go and pushed (the victim) away from him. According to the report, the ex-girlfriend went to a hotel and photographed her bruises. She went to the police the next day and filed a report. An arrest warrant was issued in August, charging Lee with criminal obstruction of breath, a misdemeanor. Syracuse.com reports “the lawsuit alleges that a Major League Baseball counsel has been notified of the charge.” Full article: Mets have new plan for outfielder accused of assaulting ex-girlfriend

Edgy MD Feb 20 2023 10:31 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I don't see anything in that piece to suggest that the Mets have decided to "hold everything," or that they have a "new plan" for Lee. I didn't even get that there was much of an "everything" to hold, or an "old plan" to update.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 20 2023 11:01 AM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Yeah, the only real "change" I can see is that he had been on the 40-man roster but now he's not. He's still in the organization, and he'll still play for the Mets if a time comes when he appears to be their best option. No change there.

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 20 2023 12:06 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

He's been uninvited to big league camp

Edgy MD Feb 20 2023 12:24 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Hold everything!! (Got a source?)

Johnny Lunchbucket Feb 20 2023 03:04 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Some Guy On The Internet

nymr83 Feb 20 2023 06:06 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Benjamin Grimm wrote: NJ.com wrote: Lee kicked her in the thigh causing her to fall down, her lawsuit claims. ... After Lee called her ugly, (the victim) slapped Lee in the face and walked away, she says. Lee then grabbed (the victim's) box braids and “yanked her backward” causing her to hit the kitchen island, she alleges. (The victim) felt Lee's hand around her neck but could not breathe or speak to tell him to let her go, she claims. After around 10 to 15 seconds, Lee let go and pushed (the victim) away from him. According to the report, the ex-girlfriend went to a hotel and photographed her bruises. She went to the police the next day and filed a report. An arrest warrant was issued in August, charging Lee with criminal obstruction of breath, a misdemeanor. Syracuse.com reports “the lawsuit alleges that a Major League Baseball counsel has been notified of the charge.” Full article: Mets have new plan for outfielder accused of assaulting ex-girlfriend The story, and one of the ones it links to, claim that Lee faces federal charges - but it doesn't explain that assertion at all - why would federal charges be in play here? I don't see anything in the limited information out there that would shed any light on that.

MFS62 Mar 07 2023 01:28 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

He didn't show up for his court appearance. A New York Mets prospect angered a Syracuse judge last week by not showing up for a scheduled court appearance. The player's lawyer tried to explain the circumstances behind the player's absence but the judge didn't agree. When told that Mets' minor leaguer, Khalil Lee was in Florida at Spring Training, City Court Judge Ann Magnarelli responded, "I don't care that he is a Syracuse Mets player," according to Anne Hayes of syracuse.com. The court appearance stems from a May 7, 2022 incident where Lee is accused of domestic violence by an ex-girlfriend. https://wibx950.com/ixp/78/p/mets-prospect-a-court-no-show-syracuse-judge-threatens-warrant/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral Later

kcmets Mar 07 2023 03:40 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Probably not the best strategy, blowing off a court appearance...

A Boy Named Seo Mar 07 2023 04:01 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

The article linked in the original post (below) has a bit more info and it sounds like Lee might have a shitty attorney who gave him shitty advice OR Lee just went to spring training and told his lawyer to handle it. Either way, bad bad bad bad. Also this: Magnarelli asked if Tedd thought his client would agree to plea to the criminal obstruction of breath in exchange for a probation sentence. Tedd said that he would advise Lee not to take the plea so that he would not have a misdemeanor on his criminal record. Tedd pointed out that Lee had no criminal history and has never been accused of domestic violence in the past. “He is 25 years old,” the judge responded, “Let's hope not.” A plea avoids jail time but obviously puts his job in very big jeopardy. I guess Lee is denying it? I haven't a comment from him anywhere. https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2023/03/syracuse-judge-issues-warrant-for-mets-player-i-dont-care-hes-at-spring-training.html

Edgy MD Mar 07 2023 04:13 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I could be wrong, but I would guess that his union would likely be advising him here as well.

A Boy Named Seo Mar 07 2023 05:25 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

Could be. I might guess a union would tell him to keep his yap shut until investigations are done, but failure to appear would seem like bad advice wherever it came from? Next court date is April 14 with a AAA Syracuse game scheduled a couple hours away in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Don't skip court for BP, Khalil.

nymr83 Mar 08 2023 03:58 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Could be. I might guess a union would tell him to keep his yap shut until investigations are done, but failure to appear would seem like bad advice wherever it came from? Next court date is April 14 with a AAA Syracuse game scheduled a couple hours away in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Don't skip court for BP, Khalil. I suppose we'll know where the bad advise/idea came from when we see if there is a new attorney on April 14th. "oh yeah go skip the appearance to play baseball, let the judge know you are a stereotypical athlete who thinks you are too good for the rules, I'll cover for you bro!" doesn't sound like great legal advise.

Edgy MD Mar 08 2023 04:21 PM Re: Mets’ Khalil Lee accused of assaulting, choking ex-girlfriend

I feel pretty certain that his failure to appear was not due to bad advice, but rather foolishness and wishful thinking.