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Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

G-Fafif Mar 18 2023 02:55 PM

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WillSammon/status/1637190279810760705[/tweet]

G-Fafif Mar 18 2023 08:21 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Mets/status/1637272813940662272[/tweet]

G-Fafif Mar 22 2023 07:46 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Francisco Alvarez has been assigned to Syracuse.

Edgy MD Mar 22 2023 08:16 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Well, that closes the book on that storyline. Darin Ruf gonna be a 2023 Met.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 22 2023 10:12 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Is that necessarily true? Maybe Baty wins the third base job and Escobar becomes a DH?

Edgy MD Mar 22 2023 10:37 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

No, indeed, it's not necessarily true, though I suspect, as a lefthanded batter, Baty is more immediately pressuring Daniel Vogelbach. The guys barking up Ruf's tailpipe seem to be Álvarez and Vientos.

metsmarathon Mar 22 2023 10:50 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

man, ruf is really just not even making the case for him to be on the roster this spring, is he? best thing for him might be for his wrist to keep bothering him into a DL stint, where he has an extended recovery in AAA. it's crazy that he dropped off SO MUCH from what he could do for the giants. if he's no longer that player - and this spring aftrer last year, it really doesn't look like he is - then how do you roster him? i'd go into the season with mcsquirrel as my outfield backup plan, escobar as my dh alongside vogelbach, and baty penciled in at third.

Edgy MD Mar 22 2023 11:55 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Vientos is getting Baby'd into the corner by allayouse. Also, I'm'a not sure why Escobar has now twice been asked to put his glove away in favor of the rook.

MFS62 Mar 22 2023 12:03 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Edgy MD wrote: Vientos is getting Baby'd into the corner by allayouse. Also, I'm'a not sure why Escobar has now twice been asked to put his glove away in favor of the rook. I'm thinking it could be either giving time to prove he can play third or showcasing him as trade bait. Or both. Or neither. Later

Edgy MD Mar 22 2023 03:39 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

They're not opening with expanded rosters this year, are they?

metirish Mar 25 2023 07:27 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Vientos and Baty optioned to Triple -A

Fman99 Mar 25 2023 07:55 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

=metirish post_id=120580 time=1679794021 user_id=72] Vientos and Baty optioned to Triple -A

Darin Ruf will continue to draw a MLB paycheck while these two guys, who actually can hit, will be up here in the sticks playing in front of sauced up local classic rock cover musicians. Life's not fair.

G-Fafif Mar 25 2023 08:12 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

The prospects plus some Quad-A types. [tweet]https://twitter.com/mets/status/1639785957124653059[/tweet]

Edgy MD Mar 25 2023 10:50 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Baty and Vientos together is interesting. Muckenhirn was a possible lefty for the pen. If there is to be such a beast now, it looks like it'll be T.J. McFarland.

ashie62 Mar 26 2023 05:41 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

And disappointing to me anyway

metirish Mar 26 2023 05:59 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1639788993213505536[/TWEET] Billy on Baty

ashie62 Mar 26 2023 06:36 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

It sounds as if Brett is not ready as a defender at 3B. Eppler said that they see Brett as "Above average player on a championship caliber team" geez

Benjamin Grimm Mar 26 2023 07:43 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

This could also be about delaying his eligibility for free agency.

Lefty Specialist Mar 26 2023 08:50 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Benjamin Grimm wrote: This could also be about delaying his eligibility for free agency. That's the only reason I can think for this. Darin Ruf clogging up this roster is inexcusable. They'll both be playing regularly soon, escpecially if Escobar and Ruf get off to the bad starts I expect.

metirish Mar 26 2023 11:24 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Ruf is hitting .600 on the backfields but no one wants to talk about it

G-Fafif Mar 26 2023 02:25 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

[tweet]https://twitter.com/anthonydicomo/status/1640017631968108546[/tweet] [tweet] https://twitter.com/anthonydicomo/status/1640083713269612544[/tweet]

ashie62 Mar 26 2023 02:57 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

If this was a fair competition I don't see how Baty loses

Fman99 Mar 26 2023 05:58 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

I'm way more annoyed at the Correa non-signing if all of the bluest chippers are going to spend 2023 in the 'Cuse. I'm not dropping $40 on a parking space to watch Darin Fucking Ruf play.

metirish Mar 26 2023 06:25 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

That $40 for parking has been all over Twitter the last few days

Edgy MD Mar 26 2023 11:33 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Cycling through options from oldest to youngest is the way these things are done, though. If Ruf gets first go and doesn't perform, they move on by May, and have two big fat options behind him. Possibly three if you count Tim Locastro. Righthanded DH is the place where you want to keep your options open.

Fman99 Mar 27 2023 05:18 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Edgy MD wrote: Cycling through options from oldest to youngest is the way these things are done, though. If Ruf gets first go and doesn't perform, they move on by May, and have two big fat options behind him. Possibly three if you count Tim Locastro. Righthanded DH is the place where you want to keep your options open. That makes sense. On the other, bigger, smarter hand, though, Vientos and Baty both actually hit this spring. While Ruf mainly did his very convincing impression of 2022 Met Darin Ruf. And that guy sucked big rocks.

metirish Mar 27 2023 06:25 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

I hope that Ruf comes out swinging and hits , he needs it, we need it, and I hate seeing guys getting killed, especially early

metirish Mar 27 2023 06:32 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1640323012598587395[/TWEET] Wow Ruf day

Edgy MD Mar 27 2023 08:03 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

That's something. Ruf-Trade gets cycled out even more quickly. I guess this means that Marte and Alonso and Canha get time at righthanded DH at the top of the season, while Locastro and Pham get their gloves out.

G-Fafif Mar 27 2023 10:14 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Megill to Syracuse.

ashie62 Mar 27 2023 10:29 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Tim Locastro make the team over the kids

Frayed Knot Mar 27 2023 10:36 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Let us keep in mind that Baty and Vientos are a combined 13 for 74 vs ML pitching thus far.

metsmarathon Mar 27 2023 11:08 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 27 2023 11:59 AM

locastro also gives the mets a little bit of health insurance in case nimmo is still feeling the effects of his knee/ankle injury. i'm much more ok with him making the team over the kids than ruf. oe: mind you, this comment is relative only to the start of teh season. once we see how healthy and effective everyone is, i think we'll see baty up sooner rather than later, with vientos to follow.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 27 2023 11:53 AM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Frayed Knot wrote: Let us keep in mind that Baty and Vientos are a combined 13 for 74 vs ML pitching thus far. If that's the case against promoting them, then they should never ever be promoted because you can say that all of the time into perpetuity before they're eventually promoted. I mean, how do they gwt to improve on that 13 for 74 without being promoted?

Frayed Knot Mar 27 2023 01:08 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Yes, never promoted. That's precisely what I meant.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 27 2023 01:36 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Frayed Knot wrote: Yes, never promoted. That's precisely what I meant. I know exactly what you meant. But go ahead. Keep the 13 for 74 in mind for what then? To improve their 13 for 74 against major league pitchers by batting against minor leaguers?

nymr83 Mar 27 2023 02:52 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Frayed Knot wrote: Yes, never promoted. That's precisely what I meant. I know exactly what you meant. But go ahead. Keep the 13 for 74 in mind for what then? To improve their 13 for 74 against major league pitchers by batting against minor leaguers? Baty hasn't really played in AAA and I can't say it is wrong to think some time there would benefit him.

Frayed Knot Mar 27 2023 02:56 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=120680 time=1679945776 user_id=68] I know exactly what you meant.

Apparently not.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 28 2023 01:40 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Frayed Knot wrote: Yes, never promoted. That's precisely what I meant. I know exactly what you meant. But go ahead. Keep the 13 for 74 in mind for what then? To improve their 13 for 74 against major league pitchers by batting against minor leaguers? Baty hasn't really played in AAA and I can't say it is wrong to think some time there would benefit him. I didn't say it was right or wrong. All I said is that if you're gonna consider Baty and the other guy's combined 13 for 74 against major league pitching to date, well it's gonna be 13 for 74 no matter when they're promoted. If they go 100 for 100 with 100 homers in the minors next month, they'll still be a combined 13 for 74 against MLB pitching before they're promoted again.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 28 2023 01:42 PM Re: Take a Hike, Son (Spring Training Cuts 2023)

Frayed Knot wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=120680 time=1679945776 user_id=68] I know exactly what you meant. Apparently not.

Apparently yes. But eventually, they'll be promoted. And no matter when that happens and what they've done in the minors, they'll have been a combined 13 for 74 against major league pitching. I think that's a fait accompli. Do you think that's a fait accompli?