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IGT Wed Apr 19 Mets @ Dodgers Get Away Day

Fman99
Apr 19 2023 08:55 AM

Max Scherzer vs GoT extra Noah Syndergaard, 3:10 start which I like, after missing the entirety of the last two games.

metirish
Apr 19 2023 09:02 AM
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Should be an interesting match-up

kcmets
Apr 19 2023 09:13 AM
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https://www.kcmets.net/CPF/NYM.png>Max Scherzer RHP (2-1, 4.41 ERA, 14 SO)

https://www.kcmets.net/CPF/LAD.png>Noah Syndergaard RHP (0-2, 5.63 ERA, 17 SO)

metirish
Apr 19 2023 11:00 AM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Mets/status/1648728237323825160[/TWEET]

MFS62
Apr 19 2023 11:41 AM
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Baty and Alvarez.

Let's show them some Syracuse power.

Later

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 01:28 PM
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Scherzer is uncharacteristically strike-zone shy.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 01:31 PM
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Thanks for getting Heyward. Two big outs with him and Vargas.



And really, thanks to the Dodgers for batting him fifth.

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 01:33 PM
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Good news: scoreless 1st for Max

Bad news: 1 hit, 2 BB, and 28 pitches to do it

MFS62
Apr 19 2023 01:36 PM
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I can just hear Art Howe or Willie Randolph saying "he battled".

Later

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 01:48 PM
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Marte is halfway towards tying a Joe Torre record ... and that's not a good thing.

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 01:54 PM
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1st inning: 28 pitches

2nd & 3rd: 18 combined

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 01:56 PM
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Scherzer finding himself nicely.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2023 02:06 PM
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Whoa! Scherzer ejected for a sticky substance!

Johnny Lunchbucket
Apr 19 2023 02:06 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

Scherzer finding himself nicely.


Scherzer finding himself illegally

Johnny Lunchbucket
Apr 19 2023 02:11 PM
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So Scherzer's a fraud and Yimmy Jacobonis is on

MFS62
Apr 19 2023 02:12 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Edgy MD wrote:

Scherzer finding himself nicely.


Scherzer finding himself illegally


I hope his fingers don't stick to his "find". That can be painful.

Later

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 19 2023 02:18 PM
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Jimmy Yacobonis is the llast piece to the puzzle.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 02:20 PM
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I was showering. Was Scherzer ejected for arguing or arguing because he was ejected?



It's interesting that all this finger checking occasionally amounts to something.

MFS62
Apr 19 2023 02:22 PM
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The TV advertisers must be practically orgasmic. They have a time delay that isn't limited by the new rules.

How many commercials will they be able to cram into this delay time?

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2023 02:27 PM
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Nimmo homer puts the Mets ahead!

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 02:28 PM
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Tough to remember Nimmo's last poor AB

He's been all over everything every game.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 02:39 PM
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You've got to be smart. If you're going to take goop to the mound, you've got to use your ears.

ashie62
Apr 19 2023 02:47 PM
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Has Scherzer been a total bust?

MFS62
Apr 19 2023 02:47 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

You've got to be smart. If you're going to take goop to the mound, you've got to use your ears.


As Yogi might say, "If you 've got goop in your ears you can't see the signs."



OMG. I'm making up Yogi-isms. The guys in the white coat will be here any minute.



Later

A Boy Named Seo
Apr 19 2023 02:49 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

I was showering. Was Scherzer ejected for arguing or arguing because he was ejected?



It's interesting that all this finger checking occasionally amounts to something.


An inning (I think?) prior, they made Max change his glove, which pissed him off. Then they threw him out with the new glove. The radio guys were confused by it. They said they could read Max mouthing "it's rosin, it's rosin" over and over and didn't know why they didn't run him originally if he had a substance.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 02:49 PM
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Age/shmage. The Mets have four hitting prospects on the cusp. If Marte can't do it, Vientos can.

ashie62
Apr 19 2023 02:51 PM
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I'm not trying to troll Max but for all the money? Geez

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 02:53 PM
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Nice effort, Jimmy.



Yakabonuses for everybody!

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 02:56 PM
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Brigham may be a guy.

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 03:08 PM
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I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Dave Roberts for removing a very effective starter for this guy.

Now they just need one more hit to cash in on the gift.

nymr83
Apr 19 2023 03:10 PM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:

Edgy MD wrote:

I was showering. Was Scherzer ejected for arguing or arguing because he was ejected?



It's interesting that all this finger checking occasionally amounts to something.


An inning (I think?) prior, they made Max change his glove, which pissed him off. Then they threw him out with the new glove. The radio guys were confused by it. They said they could read Max mouthing "it's rosin, it's rosin" over and over and didn't know why they didn't run him originally if he had a substance.


This is extra bullshit when you look at the Yankees starter NOT ejected after already being warned the other day.

ashie62
Apr 19 2023 03:11 PM
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Stranded



Max knows better than to carry that stuff

ashie62
Apr 19 2023 03:16 PM
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Possible 10 game suspension for Max



If Marte is hurt I guess we get Vientos or Mauricio I guess

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 03:21 PM
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Squeeze it, McNeil!

ashie62
Apr 19 2023 03:25 PM
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Poop

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 03:27 PM
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The Mets haven't had a ton of scoring opportunities over the last two games ... but they sure have made the least of them.

metirish
Apr 19 2023 03:28 PM
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Nice add on run

Johnny Lunchbucket
Apr 19 2023 03:32 PM
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I missed it why did Marte depart?

MFS62
Apr 19 2023 03:32 PM
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Wham bam, thank you, Pham.

Later

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 03:33 PM
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Strike three and you're out, man!

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 03:34 PM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

I missed it why did Marte depart?


Hasn't been explained.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 03:37 PM
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Mets haven't been able to do anything with Martinez for three days.

metirish
Apr 19 2023 03:37 PM
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Squeaky bum time

Marshmallowmilkshake
Apr 19 2023 03:38 PM
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Walks always seem to kill us.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 03:42 PM
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Not killed yet.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 03:44 PM
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Alvarez has tripled his hit total today.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Apr 19 2023 03:48 PM
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Nimmo is five for five! Wow.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 03:49 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

Mets haven't been able to do anything with Martinez for three days.


Dodgers haven't been able to do anything with Nimmo for three days.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Apr 19 2023 03:49 PM
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Booth said Cookie's got a bone spur.

metirish
Apr 19 2023 03:50 PM
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Yeeeeees Cahna you beaut

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 03:51 PM
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Wow. Nimmo belly-flopped hard.



He's, like, addicted to violent belly-flopping.

ashie62
Apr 19 2023 03:51 PM
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Nimmo! 5 hits



The Mets signing of the Year

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 03:53 PM
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Hopefully, the Mets can get three outfielders out there for the ninth.

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 03:54 PM
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Not a great gamble with one out and your #3 batter up.

metirish
Apr 19 2023 03:55 PM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/BaseballDoesnt/status/1648793158338084865[/TWEET]

Interesting

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 03:59 PM
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Otto seemed to be shouting at his catcher after that homer.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Apr 19 2023 04:01 PM
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There's one!

ashie62
Apr 19 2023 04:02 PM
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BOOKS!

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 04:03 PM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/BaseballDoesnt/status/1648793158338084865[/TWEET]

Interesting


Don't get scuzzi with Cuzzi.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Apr 19 2023 04:03 PM
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BOOKS!!!

metirish
Apr 19 2023 04:04 PM
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Great win and series, I'll take that, good IGT guys

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 04:05 PM
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Only three innings from Scherezer plus a run each allowed by Robertson and Ottavino = W



That's not a combo likely to be duplicated too often this year.

metirish
Apr 19 2023 04:30 PM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/1648805702905864193[/TWEET]

Oh boy

nymr83
Apr 19 2023 04:44 PM
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If he was already ejected he should run some rosin on the umpire's shirt, so it would be there for post game analysis

metirish
Apr 19 2023 04:46 PM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1648814059054325761[/TWEET]

Boras makes some good points here

MFS62
Apr 19 2023 05:06 PM
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=nymr83 post_id=122922 time=1681944278 user_id=54]
If he was already ejected he should run some rosin on the umpire's shirt, so it would be there for post game analysis



Touching an Ump would add to the penalty (suspension and fine) but he looked angry enough to do it.

Later

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2023 05:14 PM
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Well, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but the Dodgers don't seem to be the same team these days.

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2023 05:41 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

Well, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but the Dodgers don't seem to be the same team these days.


They certainly don't, although we did miss Will Smith plus 2/3 of Mookie Betts in this series.

Also, the Gavin Lux injury (damn WBC!!) trashed their preseason blueprint and they've yet to figure Plan B.

Fman99
Apr 19 2023 06:42 PM
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Quality win. I assumed they were foogered once Max got the heave ho but shows what I know. On to San Fran

ashie62
Apr 19 2023 06:45 PM
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Max will be well rested for his next outing.



Depending on Marte reinforcements could be coming

nymr83
Apr 19 2023 07:10 PM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1648814059054325761[/TWEET]

Boras makes some good points here


Boras is right - and the 10 game suspension is dumb. When they eject a pitcher, they should take a sample of the sticky substance. if it turns out to be rosin that got mixed in with the sunscreen on the guy's arm, its an ejection. no suspension. When it turns out to be "spider tack", 60 games.

metirish
Apr 20 2023 04:17 AM
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/status/1648829432751349760[/TWEET]

This can't be good

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 20 2023 06:40 AM
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metsmarathon
Apr 20 2023 07:24 AM
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They need to put out clear guidelines on how much is too much, how to clean hands off, what can and what cannot be used.



If the issue - as was discussed this morning on the mlb radio morning show - was that max cleaned his hands with alcohol, and that ‘activated' the rosin making it stickier, but the alcohol was available and furnished for hand-cleaning and rosin removal, then there's a big fucking problem isn't there?



He cleaned his hands in front of the dugout mlb official. If he was doing it wrong, there's a big problem there.



The rule cannot be “don't use too much, and we'll know what too much looks like when we see it”

Edgy MD
Apr 20 2023 08:31 AM
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You put a new glove on, and the leather dye compounds start breaking down as soon as the sweat and alcohol and other shit starts interacting with it. A really weird situation that pops up when we start instituting rules hand over fist without really thinking what it means when we try to enforce them.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 20 2023 03:46 PM
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Here's a new detail from yesterday's Scherzer incident: Scherzer went into the tunnel to wash off the "stickiness" with alcohol after instructed to do so by the umpire. He then reapplied new rosin and went out to the mound. But the only MLB approved rosin that pitcher's may use is from the rosin bag on the mound, which is inspected for quality control before the game. Any other rosin is considered a foreign and prohibited substance.

Frayed Knot
Apr 20 2023 05:10 PM
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During the game, Gelbs said that this is something Scherzer/the Mets can appeal.

What wasn't clear from his answer was whether it's an all or nothing thing. iow, since the penalty of ten games is pre-set by MLB it makes it sound like the only choices on appeal

are guilty or innocent/ten games or zero.

Or is there room for a less guilty condition -- misdemeanor stickiness rather than the felony version -- where a lesser suspension can be imposed?

As it is, ten games for a starter is effectively only one start anyway so it's probably the all or nothing answer.

bmfc1
Apr 20 2023 05:12 PM
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Ten-game suspension.

Suspension appealed.



Please ask Manfred: what was the difference between this situation and the one with Domingo German?

What was the purpose of the MLB official other than to watch Max wash his hands?

Why has only one umpire been involved in 100% of the suspensions for this behavior?

Frayed Knot
Apr 20 2023 05:17 PM
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Gary speculated that following the German thing getting handled so ... oddly (mgr Baldelli certainly wasn't happy with the non-ejection) that MLB probably

sent memos out to the effect to get tougher once a warning was given and Scherzer happened to be the first one to get caught up in that net.

bmfc1
Apr 20 2023 05:23 PM
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As Max was a negotiator for the MLBPA (and reportedly yelled at MLB negotiators per John Harper) I'm sure that Manfred and his henchmen enjoyed giving Max this punishment.