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5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 08:44 AM

We have a matchup of lefties named Joey, and everybody's doin' it, right in the hall.





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[TH]#[/TH][TH]Player[/TH][TH]Pos.[/TH][TH]#[/TH][TH]Player[/TH][TH]Pos.[/TH]
[TD]=#FF5910]1[/TD][TD]=#002D72]Brandon Nimmo (L)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]cf[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]1[/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Matt Vierling (R)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]rf[/TD]
[TD]=#FF5910]2[/TD][TD]=#002D72]Starling Marte (R)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]rf[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]2[/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Javier Baez (R)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]ss[/TD]
[TD]=#FF5910]3[/TD][TD]=#002D72]Francisco Lindor (S)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]ss[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]3[/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Riley Greene (L)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]cf[/TD]
[TD]=#FF5910]4[/TD][TD]=#002D72]Pete Alonso (R)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]1b[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]4[/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Eric Haase (R)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]dh[/TD]
[TD]=#FF5910]5[/TD][TD]=#002D72]Tommy Pham (R)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]lf[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]5[/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Spencer Torkelson (R)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]1b[/TD]
[TD]=#FF5910]6[/TD][TD]=#002D72]Jeff McNeil (L)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]2b[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]6[/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Jonathan Schoop (R)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]2b[/TD]
[TD]=#FF5910]7[/TD][TD]=#002D72]Mak Canha (R)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]dh[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]7[/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Andy Ibañez (R)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]lf[/TD]
[TD]=#FF5910]8[/TD][TD]=#002D72]Brett Baty (L)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]3b[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]8[/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Jake Rogers (R)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]c[/TD]
[TD]=#FF5910]9[/TD][TD]=#002D72]Tomás Nido (R)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]cf[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]9[/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Zach Short (R)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]3b[/TD]
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[TD]=#FF5910][/TD][TD]=#002D72]Joey Lucchesi (L)[/TD][TD]=#FF5910]sp[/TD][TD]=#FA4616][/TD][TD]=#0C2340]Joey Wentz (L)[/TD][TD]=#FA4616]sp[/TD]

kcmets
May 03 2023 10:22 AM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

I'm back from the twilight zone.

MFS62
May 03 2023 11:18 AM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

=kcmets post_id=124183 time=1683130933 user_id=53]
I'm back from the twilight zone.



Is that a place or a condition?

LOL!



Later

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 11:42 AM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Looks like about 90 fans in the park.



Also, Tigers are playing at least two guys in unfamiliar positions.

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 11:55 AM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Tigers have busted out with a first-inning three-run shot that wouldn't have left the park under the original dimensions, but alas.

Fman99
May 03 2023 11:57 AM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Lucchesi not fooling anyone

Frayed Knot
May 03 2023 11:57 AM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Good thing that Miggy is out of the lineup.

Or not.

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 11:58 AM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Mets outfielder either having trouble with the sun or are playing with holes in their gloves.

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 12:04 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

"Back-to-back home RUNS! ... Separated by an OUT!"



— Gary Cohen doing his best John Sterling

Tamora
May 03 2023 12:04 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Wahoo solo home runs for everyone!

Frayed Knot
May 03 2023 12:06 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

I didn't think Pham's shot was far enough or fair enough.

Turned out it was just barely so in each case.

Tamora
May 03 2023 12:07 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Frayed Knot wrote:

I didn't think Pham's shot was far enough or fair enough.

Turned out it was just barely so in each case.




To quote Howie Rose, it was a ‘sneaky home run.'

MFS62
May 03 2023 12:10 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Why not Alvarez against the lefty?

The second game starter for Detroit is a righty.



Later

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 12:13 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Why not Nido?



If you are alternating, they presumably both have the same advantage against a lefty, and the same disadvantage against a righty.

ashie62
May 03 2023 12:21 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

How about Nido catches the Hall of Fame pitcher in Scherzer. Nido is the defensive catcher?

ashie62
May 03 2023 12:22 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Anyway, comeback needed. Plenty of time

MFS62
May 03 2023 12:24 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 03 2023 12:29 PM

Alvarez is the hotter batter. He is 6-for-17 (.353) with a home run and three RBIs over his last seven games.

If he isn't going to catch against the lefty, why not DH him?(Although I can't argue that after what Canha did)



Later

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 12:25 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

=ashie62 post_id=124208 time=1683138087 user_id=90]
How about Nido catches the Hall of Fame pitcher in Scherzer. Nido is the defensive catcher?



If you are using one in each game, whatever you gain in one game, you give up in another.

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 12:29 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

They were late with the Lou Brock graphic. I was afraid it had been retired.

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 12:41 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Lindor clears the original dimensions!

ashie62
May 03 2023 12:42 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Boom Boom



Petros!

Tamora
May 03 2023 12:42 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Woooo, nice shot Lindor! 5-4 Mets!

Frayed Knot
May 03 2023 12:44 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

The Pham & Haase HRs were made possible by the newer dimensions, but the ones by Lindor, Canha, and Baez needed no help.

ashie62
May 03 2023 12:46 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Jimmy doesn't like to give up hits



Jimmy likes to strike people out

MFS62
May 03 2023 12:47 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

I like being wrong when it turns out like that.



Later

Frayed Knot
May 03 2023 01:02 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Jimmy giving us some nice (yaca)bonus middle relief work.

Benjamin Grimm
May 03 2023 01:04 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

I've had to watch with the sound off, because I was in a meeting. Did Lucchesi come out because he was ineffective, or hurt? He only threw 46 pitches.

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:06 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Gary stfu

Frayed Knot
May 03 2023 01:07 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 03 2023 01:09 PM

No explanation given.

Gary speculated about needing a starter on Sunday so maybe bringing Lew Casey back on three days rest. Or maybe just Buck wanted to counter Detroit's RH-heavy lineup rather than have the Lefty going third time around.

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:07 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Stop whining about Detroit guys

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:09 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

I had a good time in the old Tigers Stadium in the 70's so I'm biased

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:11 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Jimmy doesn't like it when it rains

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 01:11 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Seventh-inning stretch.



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Edgy MD
May 03 2023 01:17 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Getting a third scoreless inning out of Jimmy is totally a yaca-bonus.

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:18 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Jimmy is happy that he helped the team

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 01:22 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Keep playing Pham toward the gap, Tiggs.

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:25 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Tyler Alexander has a master Pornstache

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 01:32 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Mets lucky Vierling didn't get two bases out of that pop single.



A lot of that luck was McNeil's hustle, though.



And as I type, Vierling steals the base anyhow.

Johnny Lunchbucket
May 03 2023 01:35 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

more like SNOT-a-Vino, amirite??!?

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 01:36 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Well, that's a kick in the gut.



Too much plate to start off a DH, Otto. Situation called for a pitcharound.

Frayed Knot
May 03 2023 01:40 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

The major crime in that inning was plunking Baez with a 1-2 pitch (the 0-2 pitch was poor too).

Other than that, the mis-played bloop in RF set it all up.

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:43 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Jimmy doesn't like getting screwed out of a win

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 01:44 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

This game could use a bit of Locastro Factor.

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:44 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Lame

Frayed Knot
May 03 2023 01:45 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Nice AB by B.B., 'specially after whiffing on that curve in the dirt.



Meanwhile, dangerous batting Vogerbomb when a GiDP ends the game.

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:46 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Booo

ashie62
May 03 2023 01:47 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Punched out by Artie Lange

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 01:47 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Well, gloof.

Frayed Knot
May 03 2023 01:47 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Nerts!

MFS62
May 03 2023 01:49 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Frayed Knot wrote:

The major crime in that inning was plunking Baez with a 1-2 pitch (the 0-2 pitch was poor too).

Other than that, the mis-played bloop in RF set it all up.


When he was with the Mets he would have had to bribe someone to get on base three times in a game, and he's scored three runs today.

Bah!



Later

Tamora
May 03 2023 01:51 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Ooof that sucks. Might be a good time to drop the habit of giving up multiple runs in the first couple of innings before game 2.

kcmets
May 03 2023 01:53 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

The baseball Ferris wheel looks pretty cool.

Tamora
May 03 2023 01:55 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Everyone enjoy the second game and I hope we split the day, I'll listen tomorrow.



Let's go Mets!

Fman99
May 03 2023 01:57 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Well that drank some ass

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 02:04 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown


Frayed Knot wrote:

The major crime in that inning was plunking Baez with a 1-2 pitch (the 0-2 pitch was poor too).

Other than that, the mis-played bloop in RF set it all up.


When he was with the Mets he would have had to bribe someone to get on base three times in a game, and he's scored three runs today.

Bah!



Later


I tend to think that the Mets got the best eight weeks or so of his career.

MFS62
May 03 2023 02:08 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Looking back on his numbers, you're probably right.

Later

Frayed Knot
May 03 2023 02:28 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Edited 2 time(s), most recently on May 03 2023 02:33 PM


Frayed Knot wrote:

The major crime in that inning was plunking Baez with a 1-2 pitch (the 0-2 pitch was poor too).

Other than that, the mis-played bloop in RF set it all up.


When he was with the Mets he would have had to bribe someone to get on base three times in a game, and he's scored three runs today.


Baez had, By Far, the highest OBA of his career during his (partial) season as a NYM (.371 vs nothing better than .326) so this is hardly the time

for 'he sucked for us so why is he good now?' arguments. The point is that, once down 0-2, there's no reason to throw Baez a strike since he's

so prone to chasing. The problem was that Adam O's next two weren't sharp, the first was so far outside even J.B. wouldn't chase and the other

so far inside that Houdini couldn't have avoided getting hit. He needed better 'bad' pitches there but didn't make them. Maybe that's the result

of a week off caused by multiple rainouts, or maybe not. But that, combined with the poorly played bloop, paved the way for the killer two runs

in an inning where the Tigers hit exactly one ball hard.





oe: cross-posted with Edgy

MFS62
May 03 2023 02:31 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Frayed Knot wrote:

Baez had, By Far, the highest OBA of his career during his (partial) season as a NYM (.371 vs nothing better than .326)


I noticed that after Edgy's post.

Thanks.

Later

Marshmallowmilkshake
May 03 2023 02:57 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

=kcmets post_id=124251 time=1683143633 user_id=53]
The baseball Ferris wheel looks pretty cool.



It looks cooler than it actually is, but it's fun to do once or twice. The merry-go-round is better.

Gwreck
May 03 2023 03:47 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

Moves I didn't like:



Not hitting Vogelbach for Canha in the 9th. Getting first runner on is of paramount importance in the 9th inning, down 1 run situation, and therefore the best on-base guy was needed.



What about Nido, then, due up third? There was still a full bench with Alvarez, Guillorme, and Escobar. And who would hit there would certainly depend on what the first two batters had done.



“Saving” Vogelbach for Nido's spot was dumb.

Edgy MD
May 03 2023 04:03 PM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

I guess the thinking was that Canha was having a good day, and he's got a good on-base tool against righties himself. But yeah, I was aboard for Vogelbach to pinch-hit leadoff there also.

Benjamin Grimm
May 04 2023 05:48 AM
Re: 5/3 Makeup IGT — Detroit Breakdown

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