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Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2023 06:25 PM

So in the first 30 picks of Round One the Mets pick 32nd. It seems that there's a new rule where Uncle Steve going over the "suggested" salary cap (by, like, 3.2 billion dollars) means the Mets are penalized in draft slots. So, despite losing out to the Braves last September and playing, like, 50 games worse than them since, we wind up picking eight slots after them. So who's the hot commodity at #32? I have no fuckin' idea. But you can tune in Sunday night at 7 on MLBN or ESPN (wait, ESPN covers baseball?!??) to find out.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 08 2023 07:08 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Not knowing any of the players, I think I'd like to see them draft some college starting pitchers.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2023 07:57 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Supposedly a hitter-heavy draft. Except that those kinds of descriptions generally point only to the top dozen picks or so, so who knows.

Edgy MD Jul 08 2023 08:42 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

The Mets are actually supposed to pick at #22, but got docked 10 slots by spending too much bonus $$ last year. Stupid stuff.

Frayed Knot Jul 09 2023 07:25 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

So here's a list of impressive sounding (or not) prospects that we most definitely will NOT be drafting with our first pick. Personally, I don't like any of these guys so I'm glad they're going elsewhere before we draft the real prize of the group. 1) Pirates — Paul Skenes, RHP, LSU 2) Nats — Dylan Crews, OF, LSU 3) Tigers — Max Clark, OF, Indiana HS 4) Rangers — Wyatt Longford, OF, U Florida 5) Twins — Walker Jenkins, OF, N Carolina HS 6) A's — Jacob Wilson, SS, Grand Canyon U 7) Reds — Rhett Lowder, RHP, Wake Forest 8) Royals — Blake Mitchell, C, Texas HS 9) Rockies — Chase Dollander, RHP U Tennesee 10) Marlins — Noble Meyer, RHP, Oregon HS 11) Angels — Nolan Schanuel, 1B, Florida Atlantic 12) DBacks — Tommy Troy, SS, Stanford 13) Cubs — Matt Shaw, SS, U Maryland 14) Red Sox — Kyle Teel, C, U Virginia 15) White Sox — Jacob Gonzalez, SS, U Mississippi 16) Giants — Bryce Eldridge, James Madison U 17) Orioles — Enrique Bradfield, OF, Vanderbilt 18) Brewers — Brock Wilden, 3B, 3B, Wake Forest 19) Rays — Brayden Taylor, SS, TCU 20) Blue Jays — Arjun Nimmala, SS, Florida HS 21) Cardinals — Chase Davis, OF, U Arizona 22) Mariners — Colt Emerson, SS, Ohio HS 23) Guardians — Ralphy Velazquez, C, California HS 24) Braves — Hurston Waldrep, RHP, U Florida 25) Padres — Dillon Head, OF, Illinois HS 26) Yanquis — George Lombard Jr. -- SS, Florida HS 27) Phillies 28) Astros 29) Mariners 30) Mariners 31) Rays 32) Mets —

Edgy MD Jul 09 2023 07:30 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

I think that's the first time teammates have gone #1 and 2. Dillon Head, LOL.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 09 2023 07:56 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Mets pick Georgia high school SS Colin Houck. ESPN jocksniffers compare him to Evan Longoria

Frayed Knot Jul 09 2023 08:01 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

#32 to the NY Mets -- Colin Houck, SS, Georgia HS Considered a top-15 draft pick, he's also a QB with a scholarship offer for Mississippi State Same HS as current Brave Matt Olson

nymr83 Jul 09 2023 10:20 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

2nd round Mets took the guy who spurned them in the 3rd round last year. i guess that means they either have a deal with him or value a compensation pick next year more than they value whoever was on the board

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2023 06:36 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Colin Houck Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Run: 50 | Arm: 60 | Field: 50 | Overall: 55 One of the better two-sport prospects in the 2023 high school crop, Houck is a three-star quarterback recruit who passed for 2,189 yards and 24 touchdowns as a Parkview HS (Lilburn, Ga.) senior. He turned down football offers from Power 5 programs to commit to Mississippi State for baseball, though he's unlikely to get to Starkville as a projected first-round pick in July. He's the latest phenom out of Parkview, which has won three national championships and nine state titles in the last 25 years, while producing four big league hitters, most notably Matt Olson. Houck's combination of strength and bat speed give him plus raw power, and the right-handed hitter already shows a propensity for driving balls in the air to his pull side. He does swing and miss and chase pitches more than is ideal at times, though there's optimism that he can improve as a hitter once he concentrates solely on baseball. He has looked more consistent at the plate this spring and does use the entire ballpark, though most of his pop goes to left field. Gatorade's Georgia state player of the year, Houck can flash solid speed but projects as an average runner once he fills out his 6-foot-2 frame. Though he's more physical than twitchy, his plus arm and outstanding body control give him a chance to be a big-bodied shortstop. At worst, he'll move to third base and could be a plus defender while fitting the offensive profile there.

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2023 06:42 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Brandon Sproat Scouting grades: Fastball: 60 | Curveball: 45 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 45 | Overall: 50 Since his high school days, Sproat has tantalized scouts with impressive raw stuff, but hasn't always delivered consistent results. The Rangers took him in the seventh round out of high school in 2019, but he opted to head to Florida. A year in the rotation in 2022 was a little up-and-down, but was enough for the Mets to take him in the third round, but he decided to come back to the Gators for one more season, giving him one more chance to impress scouts. Sproat looks the part with his 6-foot-3 frame and has a potential four-pitch mix to use to get hitters out. He's flirted with triple digits in the past -- his fastball averaged close to 96 mph in 2022 and he was once again in the 94-98 mph range this fall. He does have distinct breaking pitches, with a mid-80s slider a potential true out pitch that misses a ton of bats and a slower get-me-over type of curve. He has feel for a mid-80s changeup that he doesn't throw as much, but it could be a fourth at least average pitch. The right-hander made strides in finding the strike zone last year and showed solid command in fall ball, though his fastball can be too straight at times and he gets hit more than he should given his stuff. Another inconsistent turn in the Gators weekend rotation has once again made it difficult to figure out where he belongs on a Draft board.

metirish Jul 10 2023 06:43 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Are those grades out of 100?

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2023 06:46 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

For some reason baseball rating system evolved into a 20-80 scale So 50 is still average but Pete or Judge might have 75-80 power numbers while Vogelbach would rate as a 20 runner.

metirish Jul 10 2023 06:46 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Thanks FK

nymr83 Jul 10 2023 07:15 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

You could at least give Keith Law credit for his writing that you copied and pasted, even if I understand not wanting to link to articles behind a paywall

Edgy MD Jul 10 2023 08:21 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

The 20-80 grading system is generally credited to Branch Rickey. If one set of numbers appears, we should understand it as the profile the scout believes the player will have when he arrives in the majors, but sometimes they give you two sets of numbers — one representing where the player is now, and a second representing where he should be. So while the numbers skew toward the mean, finding an 18-year-old guy who you can confidently state will have even modestly above average power when he matures into a big leaguer ain't nothing for a scout. And finding an 18-year-old who gets a 50 on anything NOW — meaning he'd be average with that skill if you dropped him into the majors right out of high school, is an eye-opener. But again, you mostly get only the MLB projection numbers. When you read something like "plus power" or "plus fastball," you can understand that to be the equivalent of a 60 rating. A "plus-plus" tag equates to about 70. An 80 rating is usually described in text as "elite" or just "80-grade." It's rare that a scout will come out and turn in an initial report with an 80 grade, because that means sticking your neck out, and who wants to do that on a teenager? But as a player gets a rep, and a consensus builds around him, ratings might grow less conservative. Still, a scout typically has a lot more confidence penning in a 20 or 25 grade for a player's weak areas (even a real prospect's weak areas) than he or she might have writing in a 75 or 80 for a player's strongest areas. The industry stops and gasps when an 80 rating comes down the pipeline. But Wilmer Flores typically got 20 ratings for his speed, despite coming up at a speed position (shortstop) and was still never-the-less considered to be a very solid prospect.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 10 2023 09:35 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

New boys are both "blessed" to be drafted. The end of this is pretty funny. Houck cracks a smile when talking about his Braves fandom and his newfound loyalty to the Mets. https://www.mlb.com/video/houck-sproat-on-being-drafted?partnerId=web_video-playback-page_video-share

A Boy Named Seo Jul 10 2023 09:54 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Sounds like the Mets maybe got lucky and knew what do about it [TWEET]https://twitter.com/Mets/status/1678225915044560901[/TWEET]

bmfc1 Jul 10 2023 10:01 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Sprout had to "consent" to being drafted for a 2d time by the same team. I wonder how that consent was conveyed. Do they have a form for him to DocuSign? Is it as simple as a thumbs-up emoji?

Edgy MD Jul 10 2023 10:36 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

You know it's a good pick because all the draftniks are high-fiving Mr. Met as Dan O'Dowd says the Mets "really didn't get penalized at all for going over that first-round sheshhold." [FIMG=550]https://metsrostercentral.files.wordpress.com/2023/07/screen-shot-2023-07-10-at-12.30.52-pm.png[/FIMG]

Methead Jul 10 2023 11:01 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Our minor league system could really use another Zebulon or two.

metirish Jul 10 2023 11:14 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

How are the picks from last year doing ?

Edgy MD Jul 10 2023 11:15 AM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Our minor league system could really use another Zebulon or two. Plenty of good stuff stiil available at Zebulon and McKenzie's wedding registry.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 10 2023 12:05 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Day 2 of the draft starts NOW!!!! https://www.mlb.com/draft/2023

A Boy Named Seo Jul 10 2023 12:24 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Mets sign a two-way guy! Nolan McLean throws heat and hits dingers. Decidedly fun pick. https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/nolan-mclean-690997

Edgy MD Jul 10 2023 12:32 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Two-way terror Nolan "Young Men and Fire" McLean, a 6'4" righthanded pitcher/outfielder out of Oklahoma State, is your third Met pick! Show 'em what you've got, Cowboy. [FIMG=500]https://dxbhsrqyrr690.cloudfront.net/sidearm.nextgen.sites/okstate.com/images/2022/6/3/McLean_vs_Missouri_State.jpg[/FIMG]

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2023 12:54 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Does he look like Doug DeCinces? I'm not really sure I remember what Doug DeCinces looked like but as soon as I saw that photo I thought of Doug DeCinces.

Edgy MD Jul 10 2023 01:21 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Round 4c selection A.J. Ewing, shortstop out of Ohio's Springborough High School is the guy I'm going to keep an eye on. He looks like a troubled kid with a lousy father. He probably moved in with his high school coach's family, and they finally convinced him to stop fucking around with that hot rod and focus on baseball, but it's still in his mother's garage and he swears he'll get it back on the road some day. He relates to his coach's daughter like a baby sister, but all her giggly friends are not-so-secretly really into him. He keeps them off-limits, though, because he's still got a code and he doesn't want to ruin the good thing he's got with his coach's family. That doesn't mean he won't go at it with the girls he meets at the ragers down by the bridge, but if you tell the coach about those, he'll fuckin' kill you. He's got a weird-but-consistent ethic that way. Like, he'll beat the shit out of a guy for just looking at him wrong — a guy who has 30 pounds on him, mind you — but then he'll end up looking after the guy's cat while he recuperates, apologizing to the guy's mother, and possibly making friends with the guy afterwards. [fimg=500]https://09d1d85a2275582e9dad-7b3e649a230e2ba2cff912d8af17e0b5.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/49598-3-Green-1.jpg[/fimg] He may someday get his shit together, but as long as he goes with that wispy hair on his upper lip, cops will be pulling him over on a weekly basis.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2023 01:39 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Meanwhile, I was right! I found this old photo of Doug DeCinces: https://dxbhsrqyrr690.cloudfront.net/sidearm.nextgen.sites/okstate.com/images/2022/6/3/McLean_vs_Missouri_State.jpg>

Edgy MD Jul 10 2023 02:07 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Uncanny.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 10 2023 02:37 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Mets are letting a lot of guys with good names get away, like Izack Tiger and Teddy Sharkey

Edgy MD Jul 10 2023 03:04 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Boston Baro!

MFS62 Jul 10 2023 03:45 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 10 2023 04:33 PM

#285 Nick Lorusso - 3B U of Maryland. The last Maryland draftee picked by the Mets who stands out in my mind was Jay Payton. Go Terps! and he's also from Monroe, CT, practically a homie. from SNY: Lorusso was one of the most productive hitters in college baseball this season. He hit .379 with a .446 OBP, 1.211 OPS, 26 home runs, and was tied for the NCAA-lead with 105 RBI. The Monroe, CT native has the potential to be a quick riser through the minors. Later

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 10 2023 04:15 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Edgy MD wrote: Boston Baro! I'm feelin' satisfied

Edgy MD Jul 10 2023 04:25 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Can a 10th Round pick possibly even matter? In this case, it does. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/Evan_P_Grant/status/1678521906549628929[/TWEET]

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2023 04:41 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

=nymr83 post_id=131271 time=1688994934 user_id=54] You could at least give Keith Law credit for his writing that you copied and pasted, even if I understand not wanting to link to articles behind a paywall

I got those reports off of mlb.com, so not pay-walled and not attributed to anyone in particular. I also have no idea where Law is at these days but i don't think it's mlb so I doubt it's his stuff.

Frayed Knot Jul 10 2023 04:44 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

=MFS62 post_id=131313 time=1689025525 user_id=60] The last Maryland draftee picked by the Mets who stands out in my mind was Jay Payton.

Jay Pay was a rambling wreck from Georgia Tech

MFS62 Jul 10 2023 05:00 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Frayed Knot wrote: =MFS62 post_id=131313 time=1689025525 user_id=60] The last Maryland draftee picked by the Mets who stands out in my mind was Jay Payton. Jay Pay was a rambling wreck from Georgia Tech

Oops.

Well, Go Terps, anyhow. (One of my daughters went there)

And, Go Nick!

Later

nymr83 Jul 10 2023 07:08 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Frayed Knot wrote: =nymr83 post_id=131271 time=1688994934 user_id=54] You could at least give Keith Law credit for his writing that you copied and pasted, even if I understand not wanting to link to articles behind a paywall I got those reports off of mlb.com, so not pay-walled and not attributed to anyone in particular. I also have no idea where Law is at these days but i don't think it's mlb so I doubt it's his stuff.

interesting, I thought it looked like something Law wrote. Either way, I'd cite it (and if not paywalled, I'd certainly link it for anyone interested!)

Edgy MD Jul 10 2023 08:25 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Terrapin Mets include ... nobody? Reliever Adam Kalorak had a decent career after the Mets released him as a minor-leaguer. Recent alum Hunter Parsons is currently bouncing between AA and AAA. There's a good chance he takes the hill as a Met.

Edgy MD Jul 11 2023 07:54 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Third-Day Draftees taken by the Mets. [th]Round[/th] [th]Overall Pick #[/th] [th]Player[/th] [th]School[/th] [th]Pos[/th] [th]B[/th] [th]T[/th] [th]H/W[/th] [th]DoB[/th] 11 336 Brett Banks UNC Wilmington (NC) P L R 6' 3" 205lbs 10/3/01 12 366 Brady Kirtner Virginia Tech (VA) P R R 5' 11" 170lbs 11/21/01 13 396 Ben Simon Elon University (NC) P R R 5' 11" 197lbs 3/22/02 14 426 John Valle Jefferson HS (FL) P R R 6' 3" 196lbs 11/24/04 15 456 Justin Lawson NC State (NC) P R R 6' 3" 198lbs 12/1/00 16 486 Jake Zitella St Charles East HS (IL) 3B R R 5' 11" 193lbs 2/24/05 17 516 Bryce Jenkins Tennessee (TN) P R R 5' 11" 175lbs 4/3/01 18 546 Gavyn Jones White Oak HS (TX) P L L 6' 2" 200lbs 9/13/04 19 576 Christian Little LSU (LA) P R R 6' 4" 225lbs 7/5/03 20 606 Kellum Clark Mississippi State (MS) OF L R 6' 4" 205lbs 4/21/01

John Valle is drafted here as a US resident, but he's Cuban-born. Jake Zitella (and who couldn't go for a Zitella sandwich right about now?), in case you missed it above, was born in 2005.



Time is a relentless beast.

MFS62 Jul 12 2023 01:36 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Here's a recap of all the draftees, with some scouting notes on each one. https://www.sny.tv/articles/mets-2023-mlb-draft-recap-breaking-down-23-picks?fbclid=IwAR3EjIgjCOoLjmWZ1a4duMiGqR4K4SrsYA2MJmeOUJLxcU_HET3nwxPy58o The #8 draftee, Boston Baro, a shortstop - "Power isn't a big part of his game right now, but possible he can grow into average power." That reminded of the Baseball Digest scouting report on Bud Harrelson. It said "Good power for a shortstop". You never know. Later

A Boy Named Seo Jul 12 2023 02:41 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Tha't a good one. I was reading another one today that had all their 5 and a half ERAs listed like any of that matters.

MFS62 Jul 14 2023 01:17 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

Little,, the #19 pick announced he will not accept the Mets offer and will return to LSU. Later

MFS62 Jul 14 2023 01:38 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

But A J Ewing (4th round) says he'll sign. Later

MFS62 Jul 14 2023 02:14 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

More signing news:(for those of you who get pop-ups on their site) The Mets have signed first pick Colin Houck. The Mets have also officially signed the following picks: RHP Austin Troesser ($128,200 underlsot), sixth rounder RHP Jack Wenninger ($74,800 underslot), seventh rounder Noah Hall ($58,750 underslot), ninth rounder 3B Nick Lorusso ($125,100 underslot), and 10th rounder C Christian Pregent ($115,800 underslot). The Mets have also signed undrafted free agent RHP Dakota Hawkins to a six-figure signing bonus. The biggest bonus given by the Mets prior to Houck signing was for eighth round prep shortstop Boston Baro that got $700,000. Baro's pick had a slot value of $192,900. Houck instantly becomes one of the Mets' top five prospects in their farm system. https://metsmerizedonline.com/mets-sign-first-rounder-colin-houck/ Later

MFS62 Jul 14 2023 03:39 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

The Sproat has sprouted. They signed second rounder Brandon Sproat. Later

nymr83 Jul 14 2023 04:35 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

=MFS62 post_id=131660 time=1689370748 user_id=60] The Sproat has sprouted. They signed second rounder Brandon Sproat. Later

you had to assume a deal was already in place considering they drafted him last year too

MFS62 Jul 14 2023 04:53 PM Re: Hey, the draft is tomorrow!!! (Sun 7/9)

=nymr83 post_id=131662 time=1689374110 user_id=54] =MFS62 post_id=131660 time=1689370748 user_id=60] The Sproat has sprouted. They signed second rounder Brandon Sproat. Later

you had to assume a deal was already in place considering they drafted him last year too


Yes. He had to agree to the deal for the Mets to draft him because he nixed their offer last year.

Later