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Marshmallowmilkshake Jul 30 2023 11:13 AM

Martino tweeted "Mets news incoming" and I see Pham is not in the lineup today. Cahna and Verlander are, though.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2023 11:42 AM Re: Next to go

A homer yesterday and healthy enough legs to play the outfield made me think that Pham was slipping away.

Johnny Lunchbucket Jul 30 2023 12:02 PM Re: Next to go

Pham hugwatch is on

bmfc1 Jul 30 2023 12:28 PM Re: Next to go

Martino tweeted "Mets news incoming" and I see Pham is not in the lineup today. Cahna and Verlander are, though. Martino followed that with news about Sam Coonrod's rehab. In other words, Martino was being a dick.

metirish Jul 30 2023 06:15 PM Re: Next to go

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/JimBowdenGM/status/1685690256459243520[/TWEET]

Edgy MD Jul 30 2023 08:30 PM Re: Next to go

I'm making a prediction that tomorrow morning will include some red-hot Luke Voit-for-Kash Konsiderations news.

Centerfield Jul 31 2023 01:10 PM Re: Next to go

Let's trade Raley. 1. Middle relievers are hard to predict. Might suck later if we hold onto him. Who knows. 2. Seems like the market is hot for middle relievers at the deadline 3. Isn't he the homophobe? Trade the dickhead

MFS62 Jul 31 2023 08:05 PM Re: Next to go

Getting closer to the deadline. If they trade anyone else, he may have to bail out of the team plane on the way to KC. Later

Edgy MD Jul 31 2023 09:21 PM Re: Next to go

Well, there are also AAA guys that could go — Michael Peréz, Tomás Nido, Luke Voit, for instance. But I imagine the plane flight won't be an issue. Kansas City is delightfully located as equidistant as can be from all other MLB cities.

Chad ochoseis Jul 31 2023 09:39 PM Re: Next to go

=MFS62 post_id=133469 time=1690855546 user_id=60] Getting closer to the deadline. If they trade anyone else, he may have to bail out of the team plane on the way to KC. Later

Deadline is 6PM eastern on August 1. Still plenty of time.

Marshmallowmilkshake Aug 01 2023 05:38 AM Re: Next to go

I understand the benefit to trading the guys who will be free agents at the end of the year. I kinda get trading Scherzer if it frees up money to get Nola, Snell or any of the younger starters who will be free next year, and you get a decent prospect. I don't understand the talk about trading Verlander, an ace who is under contract for next season. If the team is truly retooling and looks to contend next year, and starting pitching is at a premium, what is the benefit in moving him? What am I missing?

metirish Aug 01 2023 05:55 AM Re: Next to go

I guess the question is ,and Verlander asked it too , do the Mets see themselves as "going for it " next season? If not then he is open to a trade

MFS62 Aug 01 2023 06:52 AM Re: Next to go

Edgy MD wrote: Well, there are also AAA guys that could go — Michael Peréz, Tomás Nido, Luke Voit, for instance. But I imagine the plane flight won't be an issue. Kansas City is delightfully located as equidistant as can be from all other MLB cities. I know. But it seems sad that a guy gets on the plane for a road trip only to be told when he gets there that he has been traded. Then he has to jump on a plane to go somewhere else. I wonder if they give a guy a hint there are negotiations going on before he gets on he plane so he'll be mentally prepared. Or do the players accept it as "part of the business"? Is it the job of the travelling secretary of his old team or new team to arrange the flights and luggage? I'm not sure. Later

batmagadanleadoff Aug 01 2023 07:48 AM Re: Next to go

They fly like a million times a year. What's another flight?

Johnny Lunchbucket Aug 01 2023 08:16 AM Re: Next to go

I like the expression "talks have intensified" as though there was a polite negotiation at first. and now it's evolved into shouting at one another and banging fists on the desk

A Boy Named Seo Aug 01 2023 08:51 AM Re: Next to go

=Centerfield post_id=133413 time=1690830626 user_id=65] Let's trade Raley. 1. Middle relievers are hard to predict. Might suck later if we hold onto him. Who knows. 2. Seems like the market is hot for middle relievers at the deadline 3. Isn't he the homophobe? Trade the dickhead

Preach, brother.

ashie62 Aug 01 2023 08:52 AM Re: Next to go

The Orioles are loaded with prospects beyond Jackson Holliday Colton Cowser Heston Kjerstad Connor Norby Colby Mayo I would take any one of these for Verlander

Cowtipper Aug 01 2023 08:58 AM Re: Next to go

I'd really like them to clean up some of the lesser-name gobbledygook they tried earlier this year. Ditch the guys like Yacabonis, Santana, Reyes and Brigham. I think Nido could go. Maybe find a suitor for Carlos Carrasco. Get rid of Vogelbach. More controversially, I think it wouldn't hurt to get rid of Peterson and, in the long run, McNeil. McNeil is too inconsistent and has always, to me, seemed like an empty hitter. He's not quite the Jeff we had in the 2010s anymore. But I think of baseball trades from a Baseball Mogul-type mindset. That is, more from a point of fantasy. It's why I'm not a GM.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 01 2023 09:04 AM Re: Next to go

=Cowtipper post_id=133511 time=1690901930 user_id=166] I think Nido could go.

Some catcher's gonna go. If Francisco Alvarez doesn't improve one iota, already, he could play in the majors as a regular starter for as long as his health allows. Oh my god! .240ish BA and 40 HR power from a catcher. And he's years away from his actuarial prime.

ashie62 Aug 01 2023 09:31 AM Re: Next to go

An advantage to being retired I can watch MLB Network wire to wire

Marshmallowmilkshake Aug 01 2023 10:13 AM Re: Next to go

I think the other trades says they don't think they have a shot this year. I think a Verlander trade tells us they don't think they have a shot next year, either.

kcmets Aug 01 2023 10:18 AM Re: Next to go

This notion that they're punting on 2024 too is preposterous and silly. Hell, with 57 games left in 2023 a ten game winning streak puts them within sniffing distance of the playoffs. Go ShAMs!

batmagadanleadoff Aug 01 2023 10:29 AM Re: Next to go

I dunno. There's lotsa credible buzz that Alonso can be had. McNeil, too. Maybe not by this year's trading deadline, but in the upcoming off-season. I'm skeptical but that's what sources are saying.

metirish Aug 01 2023 10:38 AM Re: Next to go

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TheAthleticMLB/status/1686368936168988672[/TWEET] The buzz

kcmets Aug 01 2023 10:41 AM Re: Next to go

They trade Alonso and I am so done with the Mets and baseball.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2023 10:45 AM Re: Next to go

Whoah!

metirish Aug 01 2023 10:45 AM Re: Next to go

It would be a hell of a sell to the fan base

Marshmallowmilkshake Aug 01 2023 10:52 AM Re: Next to go

That would be a total tear-down. How do you go from 101 wins to a tear-down? Seems like it would be a tough sell to David Stearns, too. Maybe they should wait for him to (possibly) come on board before blowing up the team.

A Boy Named Seo Aug 01 2023 11:12 AM Re: Next to go

If a McDeal came for McNeil, I'd be all over it. I love Pete and think he could still be a dangerous DH up til around 35 or so, but he'll certainly want a contract flirting with age 40. He'll be 29 next season. If someone's calling, I'm listening.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2023 11:17 AM Re: Next to go

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=133524 time=1690908770 user_id=119]How do you go from 101 wins to a tear-down?

By coming up in fourth-place in between. It happens all the time.



I'm not rooting for any teardown, but I tend to disagree about Stearns or any potential successor. I think they prefer to come in with as much off the books as possible.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 01 2023 11:39 AM Re: Next to go

Edgy MD wrote: ... I tend to disagree about Stearns or any potential successor. I think they prefer to come in with as much off the books as possible. Agree there.

ashie62 Aug 01 2023 12:43 PM Re: Next to go

Heyman says there are a group of Mets minor leaguers at the hotel in KC at the ready Ronny Mauricio is not among them

ashie62 Aug 01 2023 12:50 PM Re: Next to go

Pete needs to stop looking like Rob Deer

A Boy Named Seo Aug 01 2023 01:19 PM Re: Next to go

I know we need some warm bodies in uniforms that read "Mets", but shit, clean out the decks at this point. See ya, Pham. See ya, Raley. See ya, Quintana. See ya, McNeil? This shit didn't work this year. Erase the board, load up again for next year.

ashie62 Aug 01 2023 01:22 PM Re: Next to go

Ready to go today Quintana Carrasco Pham McNeil Vogelbach Raley Ottavino

ashie62 Aug 01 2023 01:24 PM Re: Next to go

Steve Cohen must be pissed, largely at himself

Benjamin Grimm Aug 01 2023 01:29 PM Re: Next to go

I don't understand the argument for trading Quintana.

A Boy Named Seo Aug 01 2023 01:52 PM Re: Next to go

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't understand the argument for trading Quintana. I don't know. I suppose he could be back for $13M in his age 35 season, but I'm guessing we could acquire another Quintana next year by trade or FA and maybe get something like we got for Canha in the meantime.

smg58 Aug 01 2023 02:19 PM Re: Next to go

I get the Scherzer deal. Verlander, I'm more leery about. I'll be surprised if Pham and Raley stay. There are also a number of teams in the market for catchers, and Narvaez would be worth more to them than he is to us.

ashie62 Aug 01 2023 02:23 PM Re: Next to go

COHEN'S TOMB Too soon?

MFS62 Aug 01 2023 02:24 PM Re: Next to go Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 01 2023 02:25 PM

Tick tock. About 1 1/2 hours to go. A nail biter. Later

Edgy MD Aug 01 2023 02:25 PM Re: Next to go

=ashie62 post_id=133586 time=1690921435 user_id=90] COHEN'S TOMB Too soon?

What do you think?

Cowtipper Aug 01 2023 02:32 PM Re: Next to go

I never thought the season was lost. I don't know why they're dismantling. With two months left, they're just 6 games out of the Wild Card. Have they forgotten 2015? They were a sub-.500 team in late June and were barely above .500 at the start of August, yet they made a few key acquisitions and went to the World Series. Sometimes all it takes is a Kelly Johnson or a Juan Uribe or an Addison Reed (or a Cespedes). Yet here we are, losing all our pieces. I don't get it.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2023 02:36 PM Re: Next to go

Hey, they may get better from this point onward.

Fman99 Aug 01 2023 03:44 PM Re: Next to go

=ashie62 post_id=133510 time=1690901574 user_id=90] The Orioles are loaded with prospects beyond Jackson Holliday Colton Cowser Heston Kjerstad Connor Norby Colby Mayo I would take any one of these for Verlander

Those all sound made up to me.

Chad ochoseis Aug 01 2023 03:45 PM Re: Next to go

Nah, I had some Colby Mayo on my roast beef sandwich today.