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World Series '23: Rangers v Diamondbacks


Texas Rangers 1 votes

Arizona Diamondbacks 9 votes

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 27 2023 01:48 PM

Starts tonight, I'm told. Who will win? Do you care?



Rangers ex-factor: Max Scherzer



DBags ex-factor: Miguel Castro, Paul Sewald, Tommy Pham

MFS62
Oct 27 2023 02:11 PM
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I usually root for the NL team (unless it is LA) but I'm abstaining from this one.

Pass

Later

kcmets
Oct 27 2023 02:17 PM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Do you care?


Not particularly.



I'm kinda in fuck Scherzer mode. But he's hurt. If not, he will be. Or the plan

is he won't be by Game 7 and the he might be. Then he'll last a an inning or

two and tank and it will come out he was pitching hurt. Fuck him.



D'bags in 7.

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 27 2023 03:34 PM
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I'm being full-on Tom Petty but I don't want Scherzer to get a ring with the Rangers. I don't want to process that.

Frayed Knot
Oct 27 2023 04:01 PM
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So we've got the fifth seed (though tied for third best AL record) Rangers vs the 84-win / sixth seeded Diamondbacks who finished the season with

a negative run differential (first time since the '87 Twins) as contenders for the World Serious.

Some in baseball think this kind of unexpected matchup combined with a three week long buildup leading up to it makes the WS more interesting.

I disagree on both counts. I'd rather see a matchup of better teams with a smaller volume of games acting as a prelim.







As far as Scherze goesr, I have neither real positive nor negative feelings toward him, and he's already got rings with several other franchises so I care even less

if he gets another w/Texas.

My feeling going in is that I'm kink of pulling for the Rangers to get their first but sometimes in these years where no obvious rooting interest is involved I'll find

myself mid-series pulling for one side or another almost without realizing it at first. And with somewhere between four and seven baseball games left in the year

I tend to root for a longest series possible so rooting interests sometimes fluctuates from game to game (in other words, rooting for the max but not necessarily

for Max).

TransMonk
Oct 27 2023 04:10 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 27 2023 05:16 PM

I don't think I could have picked a less appetizing WS...though, I don't hate either of these teams, so at least I'm not rooting against anyone.



Scherzer was never anything more than a hired gun for us. He wasn't here long enough for me to consider his winning elsewhere. Jake on the other hand...

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 27 2023 04:19 PM
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Weird my feelings were more tied up in who wins the Scherzer trade and what a chip for Rangers would mean. I'd be happy for deGrom if he got a ring.

Frayed Knot
Oct 27 2023 04:44 PM
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Anytime you make the kind of vet(s)-for-prospects deal at the deadline there's virtually no chance of "winning" the deal in the short term so that whole

concept never really occurred to me as Texas, or Houston/Verlander, advanced in the playoffs. Once the Mets decided to reverse course and at least

shore up the org from the bottom up, even if stopping short of doing a complete tear-down/rebuild, the focus isn't on those two anymore for me.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 27 2023 04:56 PM
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I'm not the least invested in either of these teams. I'm kinda 51-49 D'backs, I guess, just because I'm an NL fan.



It's always fun when announcers praise Scherzer to the heavens about what a competitor and bulldog he is right before he gives up a 3-run homer. I expect that'll happen sometime in this series.

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 27 2023 07:11 PM
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Crazy to think the Cardinals could have an outfield with both Adolis García and Randy Arozarena.

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 27 2023 07:24 PM
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Ex-Factoring: Pham hits a jack to give AZ the lead, 4-3 in the 4th.



Verducci: "What was your strategy in the at bat?"



Pham: "Don't strike out."



lol

Frayed Knot
Oct 27 2023 09:31 PM
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Ex-factoring in the other direction: Paul Seawald, brought in to preserve a 2 run lead, starts the bottom of the 9th: BB, GO, HR ... and they're tied at 5

Frayed Knot
Oct 27 2023 09:51 PM
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Real extra inning rules ... what a concept!!

Frayed Knot
Oct 27 2023 10:50 PM
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Not a good night for ex-NYM relievers.

Fman99
Oct 28 2023 05:18 AM
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Didn't watch. Won't watch. Don't care. Won't care.

MFS62
Oct 28 2023 06:48 AM
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Some more Metly content.

The coach celebrating those Texas runners scoring was none other than one-time Mets second round draft pick Corey (I wonder if whippoorwill will like that spelling)Ragsdale.

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/7jfEuCaKlBZ.olHZ9snhCA--~B/Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTUwNTtweW9mZj0wO3E9OTU7dz05MDA7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2023-10/c9810160-755c-11ee-a6de-9eb64c938014>



Later

DocTee
Oct 28 2023 06:52 AM
Re: World Series '23: Rangers v Diamondbacks

Both teams went from 100 losses just two years ago to the WS this year. That's cool.



I usually root for the NL squads but with the adoption of the DH (and even the end of league-specific umpires long ago) there really isn't much of a difference these days. I like Tommy Pham. I like the Rangers uniforms. That's where I am.

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2023 07:05 PM
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btw, the Game One comeback by Texas brought the home/road record in this season's playoffs to 15 - 22



So, yeah, some of your teams will have to play a short series against an opponent you finished 15 games ahead of in the regular season .. but we're giving you the home field advantage!!





Snakes up early again tonight (2-0) in a game that's moving much quicker so far as compared to the opener.

Even with the added commercial time they've got four innings in the books in just under an hour.

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2023 08:20 PM
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Pham is phour phor phour tonight.

But before we start crying ths blues too much, he was 3/29 prior to that.

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 29 2023 08:57 AM
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Pham got picked off at second at some point in one of the games and Rangers coach Mike Maddux clearly mouthed “dumb fuck” referring to Pham. TV cameras picked it up, then soon after it was all over the internet.



Pham responded to one of the posts with only the emoji depicting a hand writing something on a piece of paper as if to say, “You're on my list.”



HIGH DRAMA

stevejrogers
Oct 29 2023 12:29 PM
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[youtube]https://youtu.be/FyEozKUyHiw?si=7U7sXsHZU-2Dnz3S[/youtube]

metirish
Oct 30 2023 04:44 PM
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No surprise z record low ratings ( game 1)



Despite a dramatic finish, Game 1 of the 2023 World Series between the Arizona Diamondbacks and Texas Rangers was the least-watched World Series Game 1 on record. Here's what you need to know:



The game — which the Rangers won 6-5 after Adolis García's walk-off homer in the 11th inning — averaged 9.172 million viewers on Fox and an additional 182,000 on Fox Deportes.

It also averaged a 4.6 rating, another low, according to Sports Media Watch, which lists the prior lows as a 5.1 rating and 9.35 million viewers for Game 1 of the 2020 World Series between the Tampa Bay Rays and Los Angeles Dodgers during the pandemic-impacted season.

The series is tied 1-1 as the Diamondbacks host the Rangers in Game 3 on Monday.





Why so low?

This series was always going to be viewership challenged — as anyone who studies or writes about sports viewership would have told you prior to first pitch. The question was how low would the numbers be. These numbers are low. You can't spin them. Because fans too often personalize this stuff, it's important to note this isn't an attack on either team. It's actually a fascinating baseball matchup. But the Diamondbacks and Rangers are not national draws based on historic television data outside of when they are playing a team with broad appeal or a series going long (which is what Fox has to really hope for with this series). One thing that definitely impacted this viewership: Game 1 was played on a Friday, which is one of the least-watched days of the week on linear television.



Fox is going to point to Game 1 winning primetime among all programs but this is always true and they pay a lot for it to be true. For context, as Austin Karp of Sports Business Journal pointed out, the viewership was slightly below Colorado-Colorado State football on ESPN (9.3 million viewers) and on par with the Los Angeles Rams-Cincinnati Bengals “Monday Night Football” game last month (9 million).



Where this stuff really becomes eye-opening is when you compare the 2023 Game 1 viewership to recent Game 1 history not involving big viewership teams such as the New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers, Boston Red Sox, etc. Take Game 1 of the 2011 World Series between the Texas Rangers and St. Louis Cardinals. That game drew 16.5 million viewers. If you go back nine years earlier, Game 1 between the San Francisco Giants and Los Angeles Angels drew 19.26 million viewers. Again, if you are Fox and MLB, you are really hoping for series length here. — Richard Deitsch, sports media senior writer



https://theathletic.com/5014822/2023/10/30/world-series-game-1-viewership?source=user-shared-article

Frayed Knot
Oct 30 2023 05:16 PM
Re: World Series '23: Rangers v Diamondbacks

Game Three tonight as the action shifts to Phoenix.

Scherezer gets the call for the Rangers against some rookie Pfaadt guy for the DBacks.

Frayed Knot
Oct 30 2023 07:04 PM
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Scherzer exits with an injury after just 3 innings.



"Back tightness" ... may or may not be related to being hit by a come-backer in the 2nd.

Edgy MD
Oct 30 2023 07:46 PM
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=kcmets post_id=140096 time=1698437872 user_id=53]
I'm kinda in fuck Scherzer mode. But he's hurt. If not, he will be. Or the plan

is he won't be by Game 7 and the he might be. Then he'll last a an inning or

two and tank and it will come out he was pitching hurt. Fuck him.



And ... check.

metirish
Oct 31 2023 05:48 AM
Re: World Series '23: Rangers v Diamondbacks

I haven't seen a pitch of this World Series , shame

MFS62
Oct 31 2023 07:01 AM
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=kcmets post_id=140096 time=1698437872 user_id=53]
I'm kinda in fuck Scherzer mode. But he's hurt. If not, he will be. Or the plan

is he won't be by Game 7 and the he might be. Then he'll last a an inning or

two and tank and it will come out he was pitching hurt. Fuck him.




I immediately thought of this post when he was pulled.

How are you at picking Lottery tickets?

Later

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 31 2023 08:07 AM
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No surprise z record low ratings ( game 1)



Despite a dramatic finish, Game 1 of the 2023 World Series between the Arizona Diamondbacks and Texas Rangers was the least-watched World Series Game 1 on record. Here's what you need to know:



The game — which the Rangers won 6-5 after Adolis García's walk-off homer in the 11th inning — averaged 9.172 million viewers on Fox and an additional 182,000 on Fox Deportes.

It also averaged a 4.6 rating, another low, according to Sports Media Watch, which lists the prior lows as a 5.1 rating and 9.35 million viewers for Game 1 of the 2020 World Series between the Tampa Bay Rays and Los Angeles Dodgers during the pandemic-impacted season.

The series is tied 1-1 as the Diamondbacks host the Rangers in Game 3 on Monday.





Why so low?

This series was always going to be viewership challenged — as anyone who studies or writes about sports viewership would have told you prior to first pitch. The question was how low would the numbers be. These numbers are low. You can't spin them. Because fans too often personalize this stuff, it's important to note this isn't an attack on either team. It's actually a fascinating baseball matchup. But the Diamondbacks and Rangers are not national draws based on historic television data outside of when they are playing a team with broad appeal or a series going long (which is what Fox has to really hope for with this series). One thing that definitely impacted this viewership: Game 1 was played on a Friday, which is one of the least-watched days of the week on linear television.



Fox is going to point to Game 1 winning primetime among all programs but this is always true and they pay a lot for it to be true. For context, as Austin Karp of Sports Business Journal pointed out, the viewership was slightly below Colorado-Colorado State football on ESPN (9.3 million viewers) and on par with the Los Angeles Rams-Cincinnati Bengals “Monday Night Football” game last month (9 million).



Where this stuff really becomes eye-opening is when you compare the 2023 Game 1 viewership to recent Game 1 history not involving big viewership teams such as the New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers, Boston Red Sox, etc. Take Game 1 of the 2011 World Series between the Texas Rangers and St. Louis Cardinals. That game drew 16.5 million viewers. If you go back nine years earlier, Game 1 between the San Francisco Giants and Los Angeles Angels drew 19.26 million viewers. Again, if you are Fox and MLB, you are really hoping for series length here. — Richard Deitsch, sports media senior writer



https://theathletic.com/5014822/2023/10/30/world-series-game-1-viewership?source=user-shared-article


I'm sure part of expanded playoff plan was to lure more viewers into the playoff drama, regardless of who was playing. Cleary we're all just Metheads (with Frank Zappa avatars), but it seems like no one outside of Dallas or Phoenix gives too many shits about this one.

bmfc1
Oct 31 2023 12:02 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 31 2023 05:19 PM


A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Do you care?

I'm kinda in fuck Scherzer mode. But he's hurt. If not, he will be. Or the plan

is he won't be by Game 7 and the he might be. Then he'll last a an inning or

two and tank and it will come out he was pitching hurt. Fuck him.

Left it all on the field for Washington in 2019 and then

quit physically on LA

quit mentally on the Mets

quit physically on Texas.

F him, indeed.

G-Fafif
Oct 31 2023 05:06 PM
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No Garcia tonight for the Rangers. Not good for them, not good for the Series.



Word just in: both Garcia and Scherzer out for the rest of the Series.

Frayed Knot
Oct 31 2023 06:33 PM
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Garcia being out means the WS now has some hot, smoking Travis Jankowski action.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2023 07:02 PM
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Gallen is perfect thru 4 with only 35 pitches thrown.

Given the (lack of) success and the (over) use of the ARZ pen, Louvello needs to ride this horse til it drops tonight.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2023 07:43 PM
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The '23 Mets didn't invent as many ways to NOT score the the DBacks have in this series.





One BB allowed, but Gallen is now hitless thru six

Marshmallowmilkshake
Nov 01 2023 08:00 PM
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There goes the no-hitter, the shutout, the lead and maybe the series.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Nov 01 2023 08:52 PM
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And the Rangers score two on an error, then a two-run blast off Seward.

Marshmallowmilkshake
Nov 01 2023 09:02 PM
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Congrats, Rangers. Jake and Max get rings.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2023 09:09 PM
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So now the longest running Dallas area team without a championship is ... How 'bout them Cowboys!

In fact each of the Mavs, Rangers, and Stars have won titles since the 'Boys have been to an NFC title game.

stevejrogers
Nov 01 2023 09:11 PM
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=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=140363 time=1698894149 user_id=119]
Congrats, Rangers. Jake and Max get rings.



But it's not going to count on deGrom's official sports ball resume! *rolls eyes* You don't want to know where that's from ;)

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2023 09:24 PM
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Last meaningful baseball game for the next 148 days

Lefty Specialist
Nov 02 2023 05:26 AM
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The off-season can now officially commence. Find me a new manager, Stoins!

Johnny Lunchbucket
Nov 02 2023 07:36 AM
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I'd been tuning in and out of the World Series but somehow got it in my head that last night was an off-night and never even knew it was on.



Oh well, doesn't look like AZ had much fight left

Marshmallowmilkshake
Nov 02 2023 07:39 AM
Re: World Series '23: Rangers v Diamondbacks

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

I'd been tuning in and out of the World Series but somehow got it in my head that last night was an off-night and never even knew it was on.



Oh well, doesn't look like AZ had much fight left


Not sure about that one. Zack Gallen took a no-hitter into the seventh, and it was 1-0 heading into the ninth inning. The wheels came off in the ninth with a costly error and a homer off Sewald.

Johnny Lunchbucket
Nov 02 2023 07:46 AM
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

I'd been tuning in and out of the World Series but somehow got it in my head that last night was an off-night and never even knew it was on.



Oh well, doesn't look like AZ had much fight left


Not sure about that one. Zack Gallen took a no-hitter into the seventh, and it was 1-0 heading into the ninth inning. The wheels came off in the ninth with a costly error and a homer off Sewald.


oops

Frayed Knot
Nov 02 2023 06:16 PM
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It was a weird series in a lot of ways.



Arizona out-hit Texas 47 - 38 over the five games but got outscored 26 - 22 and even that takes in their 9-1 Game 2 win plus

the garbage time runs they scored late in Game 4 after they were already down 10-0 (game wound up 11-7).



But the Rangers did what the Yanx used to always seem to do and that's to somehow manage to bunch their hits together. They did

it all series long but no better example of it than Game 5 when they were no-hit for 6 innings before finally getting a cue ball down

the LF line to open the 7th. Two pitches later they had their second hit and two pitches after that got their third and a lead they'd

never relinquish. While this was going on the DBacks had runners on all over the early innings and managed to strand all of them.

- ARZ made two errors in the series and Texas cashed in big after both of them (5 of their 26 runs were unearned).

- prior to their late inning runs in Game 5, virtually ALL of Texas's runs in the first four games came after two were out

- not only did Texas win all three games in Phoenix they won all 11 road games they played in the post-season,

beating 99 win Tampa, 101 win Baltimore, and defending champ Houston eight consecutive times on the road.