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Happy Birthday to a Precocious Five Year Old
| Willets Point May 19 2006 09:10 AM |
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The Crane Pool Forum was born on May 20, 2001. Any ideas on how to celebrate its (our?) fifth birthday go in this thread.
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| TransMonk May 19 2006 09:11 AM |
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5 years? Wow...I'm getting old.
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| seawolf17 May 19 2006 09:18 AM |
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Sometimes we even act our age, don't we? I've been here about a year and a half, and I've had a lot of fun. Thanks to the mods for keeping this place afloat.
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 09:18 AM |
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What about the rockers? We helped too.
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 10:10 AM |
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For some reason I thought this would garner more interest than it has.
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| Hillbilly May 19 2006 10:18 AM Re: Happy Birthday to a Precocious Five Year Old |
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How about with our second staright win against our cross town rivals? That would be a celebrotory event.
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| Centerfield May 19 2006 10:22 AM |
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After five years you'd think we would have run out of things to talk about.
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| Frayed Knot May 19 2006 10:58 AM |
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The CPF only sort of existed for it's first six months or so.
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 11:01 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 19 2006 11:18 AM |
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Yes, for the first six months the CPF was intended as a place for regulars at Metsonline Fan Forum to bug out when the MOFo was overrun with Yankees trolls. It didn't get used much during that time. Then there was the Great Forum Wars and since CPF was already here a lot of people just started posting here regularly.
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| holychicken May 19 2006 11:07 AM |
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I don't know about you guys, but I am going to celebrate by getting real drunk tonight and then tearfully apologizing to my gf for getting so drunk.
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| KC May 19 2006 11:11 AM |
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One of the things I find sentimentaly amusing is some of the terminology
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 11:21 AM |
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Not mention assclown, lousy cheapass organization (lcao), . (for Avi), and suckitude.
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| Frayed Knot May 19 2006 11:24 AM |
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"Yes, for the first six months the CPF was intended as a place for regulars at Metsonline Fan Forum to bug out"
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 11:25 AM |
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Special prize to anyone who can find the first thread from May 2001 at Ezboard (if it still exists).
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| Frayed Knot May 19 2006 11:30 AM |
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[url=http://p079.ezboard.com/fthecranepoolforumfrm3.showMessage?topicID=15.topic]This is the earliest I can find[/url] - having already found MY first post.
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 11:36 AM |
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I'm pretty sure there was one earlier one with comments on the brown & mustard orange color scheme that was used for the first couple of days. It must be lost to the ether.
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| KC May 19 2006 11:42 AM |
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How could I forget assclown? Jeez, I use that word at work two three
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| Centerfield May 19 2006 11:58 AM |
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Sometimes I think back about all those forum arguments and have trouble believing they actually happened. It all seems so silly now. I mean, it seemed silly then too, but many years removed I can't even remember what the hot topics were.
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 12:03 PM |
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Three actually if you count the Overtime.
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| Farmer Ted May 19 2006 12:03 PM |
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We need a guest appearance by 52. Now THAT would be intriguing.
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| Centerfield May 19 2006 12:04 PM |
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I was counting Overtime as one of the spinoffs, CPF being the other. Is there a third?
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| Bret Sabermetric May 19 2006 12:05 PM |
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I carry a photograph of a caustic fucktard on my driver's license.
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| metirish May 19 2006 12:05 PM |
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Happy Birthday to the CPF, glad I found it,I used to post at Mets.com ,what a nightmare,I remeber one poster telling people that he was going to commit suicide,this went on for weeks.....I hated that place.
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 12:08 PM |
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The NY Sports Daily or whatever they're calling themselves these days.
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| Centerfield May 19 2006 12:16 PM |
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Oh, I was still calling that the MOFO.
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 12:24 PM |
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Ah, I see the Crane Pool Forum, The Overtime and NY Sports Daily all as spinoffs of the dearly departed Mets Online Fan Forum. I guess the NY Sports Daily Mofo and the Mets Online Fan Forum are akin to Starship and Jefferson Airplane. There's a continuity and some of the same members but really they're different bands.
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| Edgy DC May 19 2006 12:40 PM |
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We built this city on Rauch and Kroll.
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| Rockin' Doc May 19 2006 04:22 PM |
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KC - "One of the things I find sentimentaly amusing is some of the terminology
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 04:56 PM |
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I tried reaching out to him, he just lurked and never signed up. I saw him on AOL IM and said I referred to him in a post about that Mets Fans Hall Of Fame they did back in the early 80's that DIDN'T include the Original Sign Guy. Well he read it, and I guess didn't feel the need to sign up Ah well...
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 04:56 PM |
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Whats The Overtime?
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 05:02 PM |
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Can someone fully explain the whole Fourm Wars and the splits of the Original MetsOnline Fan Fourm?
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 05:03 PM |
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Wow, doing the cycle here! HA!
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| Willets Point May 19 2006 05:08 PM |
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No, just no. Some things are better forgotten. This is The Overtime.
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 05:33 PM |
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Its the Friday of the first Subway Series and I'm the only guy in Overtime's IGT? I even STARTED the IGT DURING THE GAME!
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 05:33 PM |
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Yeah that was bad...
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| TheOldMole May 19 2006 05:50 PM |
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Trying to remember how I stumbled on CPF, but I cannot for the life of me.
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 06:02 PM |
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Can't believe SK hasn't arrived yet with this:
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| KC May 19 2006 06:29 PM |
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You strike me as a trouble maker, Mr. Rogers.
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| Johnny Dickshot May 19 2006 06:32 PM |
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I always considered 9/11 to be the real father of the CPF. People just got too freaked out round then.
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 07:10 PM |
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I can see that. 
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 07:16 PM |
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Still trying to remember exactly when I sort of dropped off the Internet Met Community and jumped back on, or at least the Forum portion of it.
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| DocTee May 19 2006 07:41 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 19 2006 07:44 PM |
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UMDB down?! Went to check some stats and got an error messgae-- here's hoping it's only fleeting (thats where I first learned of CPF by the way).
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 07:43 PM |
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YAAANCY! Ya got some 'splaining to dooo!
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| Frayed Knot May 19 2006 09:27 PM |
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"Can someone fully explain the whole Fourm Wars and the splits of the Original MetsOnline Fan Fourm? "
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| Gwreck May 19 2006 09:31 PM |
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I wasn't a poster at the MoFo but was a fan of the old Metsonline.net. The irony is that after being threated by the lawyers, Bryan would eventually go on to be hired and work for Mets.com. After Marty Noble he writes a lot of stuff for the site.
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| Frayed Knot May 19 2006 09:39 PM |
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He set up that site as a hobby in the early days of the internet when he was like 14 y/o. The forum part of it was probably considered minor when he first started before eventually becoming the tail that wagged the dog as the internet became more universal. He himself rarely chatted on the forum part of the site and I always suspect must have been quite amused at the monster it became.
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| SteveJRogers May 19 2006 10:11 PM |
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Ditto with JWS52 Marriage and a full time teaching job ended his regular games attended and eventually website! Heh, thats the problem with website and forums sometimes. When someone decides that its time to move on to something bigger and better, in some cases the masses go nuts. A funny example is an Internet Wrestling Community icon, Scott Keith, he had a Pro Wrestling (WWF/WCW/ECW and various indys and countries) website akin to the old MetsOnline with columnists and a web board. Well he got some professional writing gigs, and even a book offer so he actually quit being the comphrehensive site guy and now does columns for someonelse (let someone who has the time and patience do the dirty work) while he has time to write his own blog, books and his actual job. Of course as this happened the IWC went nuts (much, MUCH more imaturer than even the Trolls of MOFO past I assure you) calling Keith a sellout, acting like the guy should be a webmaster of his old site for life, ect. Just an interesting aside
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| Bret Sabermetric May 20 2006 05:14 AM |
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9/11 brought us together on the MOFO but ultimately drove us apart, when the jingoists began spewing hatred. But here's a sample of initial MOFO postings on 9/11 that had little hate in them (sorry for the length, and the lack of formatting, but I don't think we have this archived anymore. It also features on of Bryan's rare appearance as a poster): Mets Online Fan Forum > New York Mets > World Trade Center Memories Page 1 2 << Prev Topic | Next Topic >> Author Comment Baseball Mom Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 7671 (9/11/01 9:37:42 pm) Reply World Trade Center Memories I thought it was appropriate to start a thread of memories of these great buildings. What we remember most about them. For me, I can't remember the New York skyline without them (even though I always preferred the midtown view from the Empire State Building. Or, for that matter, the uptown view from the tower of Riverside Church). I just remember it being there for routine things. The TKTS kiosk. Office buildings. An occasional dinner at Windows on the World. We once saw a free performance by the Flying Karamazov Brothers there. All of the stores. Visiting offices there for various reasons. It was always one of those places that was just taken for granted as being a part of life in the City. I know that in recent years my husband passed through there countless times, using the PATH train en route to the World Financial Center. R.I.P. to a vital part of New York City life. And to everyone who perished in today's unforgivable acts of terrorism. September 11, 2001 - A Day Which Will Live in Infamy JonathanArcher Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 618 (9/11/01 9:41:27 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories It will really hit me the first time I go over the Whitestone, and it will no longer be there. "Oh, I know Hamlet, and what he might say with irony, I say with conviction:" LEFTFIELD Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 2910 (9/11/01 10:10:25 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories The WTC buildings were never my favorites. I know jack about architecture, but still always preferred to art-deco uniqueness of the Empire State Building to the boxy squareness of the WTC towers. But they were still impressive. As you look downtown, most of the major avenues converge directly toward the WTC as Mahattan Island narrows at its south end. As you walk southbound, as I did this morning to enjoy the nice weather, those towers rise out of the focal vanishing point of these avenues like Emerald City at the end of the yellow brick road. They so dominated the financial district skyline, dwarfing even 40 & 50 story buildings, that their absence is going to make that view look like something was left out - as if you were looking at a novelty painting. My office has a roof-top (11th floor) outdoor patio/cafeteria that looks directly south from barely a mile away. That view, which I've seen a million times over the last 2+ years that I've been in SOHO, will look like some sort of cruel joke now. Encourage the impractical and improbable, without bias. Gregory Gewirtz Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 559 (9/11/01 10:14:59 pm) Reply The former Twin Towers I never viewed the observation deck, but went to the restaurant at the top once, and went to the shopping concourse underneath many times. As someone who just started dorming in the East Village two weeks ago, I got to see a lot of those magnificent buildings. They used to be the jewel of the skyline, besdies holding vital functions in our financial district. I can't imagine the gaping hole where those buildings were. gmet Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 809 (9/11/01 10:20:54 pm) Reply Re: The former Twin Towers Parents took me for my first visit in 76' I believe during bi-centennial. went to obs. deck on many field trips and outings with friends. Took my wife there on one of our first dates to lounge on top. Have worked in the towers a few times over the years also. Pray for the lost. I still can't believe it came down. Edited by: gmet at: 9/11/01 10:29:42 pm Thirteen Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 2003 (9/11/01 10:26:25 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories New Year's Eve, 1991, a couple of friends and I waited in line forever and rode up to the observation deck, looking down on the world, looking forward to joining the revelers in Time's Square. It was one big party, and we were just 20, wrapped up in ourselves and the idea of having a good time. A little over a year later, the place was bombed, but they couldn't bring it down. Just under a decade later, it's a heap of dust. And one of the guys that was up there on the observation deck with me, the best man at my wedding, is a helicopter pilot in the US Army. I don't know what his status is tonight, but God help him anyway. God help all of us, and care for those we lost. Time won't lie so listen well And try not to forget RockinDoc Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 1074 (9/11/01 10:32:21 pm) Reply Re: The former Twin Towers My wife, children, and I visited the observation deck of the WTC during our recent visit to NYC for the Forum Picnic. We enjoyed the magificent skyline on a clear saturday afternoon (8/11/2001). For all its' magnificence, the WTC is replaceable. It is the tremendous loss of lives that I truly mourn. "For every survivor of the wickedness of man, whether your a black man or a jew People kill in Jesus name, he is not the one to blame Cause even God weeps too." -- Eli Jamblastx Mets All-Star Posts: 403 (9/11/01 11:19:32 pm) Reply WTC I was in Manhattan as few weeks ago with my family in order to visit the planetareum. My son (who is 7) wanted to go to the WTC and go to the top to see the view but I had told him that we would go another day since it was getting late in the day. I had a very hard time trying to explain to him today that that day will never come. I just went to windowsontheworld.com just to see the old friend that we lost today and a shed I tear. Bryan Hoch Web Site Administrator Posts: 677 (9/11/01 11:21:52 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories I've never actually been to the World Trade Center... although my grandma's apartment is just a few blocks away on the campus at NYU, by Washington Square Park. I have a picture in the photo album of standing on her sixth-floor terrace at age five or six, wearing a green and white striped polo shirt and a cereal-bowl haircut, in my grandpa's arms, pointing down the street with a huge smile on my face as I looked at what had to be the greatest buildings in this magnificent world. That's my enduring image of those years, and it shines on me every time I see them in the horizon... and a lot like my grandfather, they're gone forever. Edited by: Bryan Hoch at: 9/11/01 11:23:27 pm SI Metman Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 1833 (9/11/01 11:29:24 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories I remember looking out at the towers every day from my classroom in my Brooklyn school when I was in the 4th and 5th grades. It seemed that no matter where I was in the 5 boros, I always had a view of the towers. Miracles can happen, you just gotta believe. The Fat Lady is locked in my closet. SCold2001 Mets Starter Posts: 88 (9/11/01 11:38:53 pm) Reply ... I was in school at the time...I was in shock...I felt the ground shake..It was a terrible moment... god bless... meetthemets Mets Veteran Posts: 149 (9/12/01 9:56:44 am) Reply Re: ... I was in your wonderful city one month ago yesterday. If this attack had taken place on 8-11 at the same time my wife and I were atop the observation deck from 8:30 to 10:00. The view of your city was breath taking. We also stayed at the marriott WTC which I believe has alos been destroyed. I wonder was the young girl serving my piazza at sbarros at the top of the WTC at work. Was the guy who noticed my southern accent on the elevator going to the top and after finding out I was from Atlanta welcomed me to New York...was he at work ...I will never know because I do not remember their faces and never knew their names but I pray they are ok. I fell in love with your city not because of its beauty and history and its overwhelming size ...but i fell in love with the kindness of the people of new york who helped me get on the right train and gave me directions when I was lost. god bless all of america but especially the few friends I made in New york on august 11-13. YGB!!! KTF!!!! LGM!!!! I hate when people from other boards come to ours. B3 may you get a rash!!!! justbec Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 2183 (9/12/01 10:05:21 am) Reply Re: ... I remember being on the observation deck one time and the man that climbed the building, George something, was there, signing the spot where he stood. I'll always remember looking out at the city from there and enjoying bringing my out of state friends there. To watch their faces as they stepped out on the deck..... God Bless Paulie Cee Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 2670 (9/12/01 10:08:28 am) Reply Re: ... I went up to the observation deck with my friends right after the second tower was completed in 1974. I remember the view was breathtaking. I remember promising my high school sweetheart that I would take her to "Windows On The World" when school was over. I never did, but I somewhere inside I still thought that somehow I'd like to keep that promise someday. And every day on my way to work I was never blase about seeing these two towers loom right in front of me as I ascended the subway steps. I'll miss seeing the tops clouded in mist on rainy days. I can't even imagine not seeing them there when I return to work, whenver that may be. It's going to be hard. Wait 'til next owner!! KC 62 to pres Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 1051 (9/12/01 10:22:58 am) Reply Re: ... Frankly, I'm in too much of a shock to think of what it's going be like not seeing the towers there for the first time. My wife and I were reminiscing last night of how we once brought our Mom's to Windows on the World for Mothers Day brunch and how impressed they were. Me and a good friend were also enrolled in Kevin Zraly's famous wine course at Windows at the time of the first attack. We finished the course in the weeks that followed in various conference rooms instead of the restaurant. We were a little afraid to continue, but like I said at the time, "if they keep you from doing what you want, they've won." Now it's gone. "It was obvious that the curve ball was my worst enemy, I didn't do too well with the change-ups either" JellyRoll2 Mets Veteran Posts: 124 (9/12/01 10:24:32 am) Reply Re: ... I'd never been to the top of the WTC. I was just down there about three weeks ago with my mom, sister, and niece to enjoy a nice Friday night out, see the building my sister worked at and just chill out. We walked through Battery Park and had Krispy Kreme donuts at the base of the towers. There was a Latin music concert going on in the Plaza. We were fascinated by the Millenium Hotel across the street. When I asked my niece if she'd ever been to the top of the towers she said she hadn't but had been to the Empire State. I told her I hadn't been to either one nor the top of the Statue of Liberty. "I look at it like, what's the hurry? They'll always be there. Not like they're going anywhere." That was what I said. And now... Bubba Sponge Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 2512 (9/12/01 10:29:15 am) Reply Re: ... Mrs. Sponge has only lived in NYC for 18 months. Whenever she got lost walking the small streets of lower downtown, she would call me on her cell phone for directions. In typical fashion, I always ask "look around...where is the World Trade Center?" Flying into NYC from business trips, I always a made a point of secruing a seat on the side of the plane that would give me the best view of the NYC skyline. It was a great treat to be coming north and seeing the Statue of Liberty, the WTC, and the ESB in a row. We'll never see that again. Baseball Mom Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 7681 (9/12/01 11:04:38 am) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories I know I started this thread, but I reserve my right to add to it. My thoughts of the moment are of February 26th, 1993. That morning was my son's briss. It was a crazy day, to say the least, and we had some guests in our apartment throughout the day. But there were times that we'd turn on the tv for our 3-year-old daughter, and kept seeing news reports about the World Trade Center. I remember hearing something in passing hypothesizing that a Con Ed transformer blew up, and that sounded credible, so I turned my attention back to the events of the day. By 4:00, it was time for Tiny Toons, and Fox5 still had news on. By that time, more news was filtering down, and we learned that it was a terrorist attack. So in my own mind, I always associate my son's briss with that attack. Yesterday morning I was watching cable, and then came to my study and to my computer. AOL's popup screen mentioned terrorism at the WTC. My first thoughts were why are they talking about this so prominently 8 1/2 years later, and why is the picture wrong (they showed a fire at the top of the building on a sunny day, not smoke at the bottom on a grey February day). It took my brain several minutes to assimilate what I was seeing. Meanwhile, I just got off the phone with my friend in Manhattan. Yesterday, when the tv was on and we were watching the fire before the towers fell, my 5-year-old asked me whether that was our friends' apartment building. I told him no, he went on playing, and I put on Blues' Clues for him because why should he have to watch these images? But I became hysterical and called my friends - my 8-year-old's godfather answered the phone, and I learned that they were ok. This morning, his godmother phoned me. She is still stunned over this - she said that the sight of people walking the streets yesterday in tears was surreal, and that even today the sounds of sirens rushing by day and night from all directions is beyond belief. Something she never thought she would witness in her lifetime in our City. September 11, 2001 - A Day Which Will Live in Infamy Bay Ridge Dave Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 957 (9/12/01 2:53:04 pm) Reply World Trade Center Memories Took my wedding photos at World Financial Center, which is also in shambles My son's awe seeing the Twins for the first time a few months ago during Children's Day... All the friends and clients I made throughout the years. Friends and clients that right now I do not know whether they are safe.... Always in awe, whether driving by or seeing it from a hill at Sunset Park.... RIP World Trade Center 1973-2001.... :'( JerseyShore Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 1500 (9/12/01 3:11:56 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories In 1976 I had a chance to go with my family to observe the bicentenial tall ships celebration form the restaraunt at the top of the Towers. I chose not to go, wanted to spend time with my girlfriend. Both my father( five years ago) and the towers are now gone. I think how nice it would be to have them all back. My daughters spent a wonderful afternoon with my sister at the restaraunt. They won't go back to the city cause they are scared. I spent many days in the finacial district with dad, and in other areas around the city. Its hard to believe. "but can he sing tiny bubbles with the same sense of self assuredness coupled with a Liberace-like spirit of whimsy and magic" Willets Point Mets All-Star Posts: 257 (9/12/01 3:38:23 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories The World Trade Center opened the same year I was born. I never saw the NYC skyline before the Twin Towers. As I child, I would use my wooden building blocks to build my own version of New York, with my World Trade Center towering a foot above my head. I had a plastic King Kong toy I would put on top, in tribute to the remake of King Kong. And I have a photo I took 4 years ago from the Ellis Island ferry with a sailboat positioned right in front of the towers. I can't believe those massive buildings are gone. All those people. Page 1 2 << Prev Topic | Next Topic >> Email This To a Friend Topic Commands (Moderator only) Subscribe Click to receive email notification of replies jump to: - Mets Online Fan Forum - New York Mets - Mets Online - Powered By ezboard® Ver. 6.3.7 Copyright ©1999-2001 ezboard, Inc. Mets Online Fan Forum > New York Mets > World Trade Center Memories Page 1 2 << Prev Topic | Next Topic >> Author Comment slugger1138 Mets Veteran Posts: 114 (9/12/01 3:50:48 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories i'll always remember cutting class in high school, hanging out on chamber's street and smoking cigarettes gazing at the World Trade Center. from that vantage point only the north tower was visible but it was still a magnificent sight. or sitting in Global History Class and staring out the window at the tower or at the statue of liberty. I dug out my high school yearbook last night and in it there's a full page photograph of lower manhattan with my school in the foreground and the twin towers standing sentinel over the scene. i talked to some of my former classmates as well, who remembered the bombing back in 1993 and how the shockwaves from the blast were felt at the school, fortunately I did not begin attending that school until the fall of 93. every time my relatives from europe or australia would come for a visit, we would take them to the observation deck as part of their sight seeing tour. i must have been up there on 4 or 5 occasions from the time I was 7 to the time I was 14. i'm in abject shock, which is quickly turning to anger. tragic does not even begin to suggest the magnitude of what occurred yesterday. VenturaHighway Mets Veteran Posts: 149 (9/12/01 4:16:43 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories Way back in 1986, I was fresh out of high school, and I accepted a position as a nanny in New York. I had never been East, or traveled very far from home for that matter, and I was awed by all of Manhattan when I flew into Newark. I remember the weekend I spent in the city, and taking the Circle Line tour around the island. I took lots of pictures that day. I remember seeing the Fourth of July spectacular fireworks lighting up the night sky above the Statue of Liberty, and the World Trade Center. It's also the summer I began my love affair with the Mets. I took out my pictures of the Trade Center yesterday, and I just can't believe the towers are gone. I ain't afraid of ever losing faith in you. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ doc g Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 3156 (9/12/01 4:44:06 pm) Reply | Edit Re: World Trade Center Memories WTC memories….where to begin? I worked in my father’s restaurants on John Street and Maiden Lane in the late 1960s as the Towers were being constructed, and I mainly worked on the street, delivering orders all over lower Manhattan, getting an intimate knowledge of dozens of office buildings in the area, hearing daily complaints about the inconvenience of conducting business in a years-long construction zone, but with everyone awestruck as the buildings neared completion, My dad, a patient, gentle man, usually repeated a pat expression to calm people down when they were irritated, “This’ll be a great city…when they finally get it finished,” that I’m sure he first heard as a young boy running errands himself—he worked as an office boy (from age 9) on Wall Street. He died in 1970, around the time they finished the first Tower, and when I got my job, three blocks from his last restaurant, in 1990, I found (and find) myself thinking about him almost every day, whenever I go out for lunch, or when I pass the subway entrance he used to use, or especially when I’m momentarily inconvenienced by some construction work (they’ve been rebuiilding J&R Music World for the last year or two, for example), and I remember his ironic comments about the ever-ongoing construction of a great city. I’m sure I’ll be reminded of it many times to come over the years to come. ON EDIT: Mookie informs me that O. Henry's the originator of my dad's pat expression. She asked me to thank you kind folks for your helpful words yesterday, and I will pass along your hugs as well, JA. Bubba, KC, YGB, it's never nice hearing you made your friends cry, but if I had to, I'd rather do it that way than any other. Thanks. "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." -- Napoleon Bonaparte Edited by: doc g at: 9/12/01 10:09:42 pm mrsmet Mets All-Star Posts: 268 (9/12/01 5:48:35 pm) Reply memories I used to work at 55 Water Street, and my husband in Tower 2. We met many times for lunch in the concourse, and my company.I had serveral office Christmas parties and business lunches in Windows on the World. I remember going up to Mike's office on the 62nd floor and having my stomach turn in that express elevator. I'm looking at a picture in a collage in my family room of Mike and me on the observation deck, 1980. I just can' believe they're dust, along with all those innocent souls trapped inside. Rest in peace. YGB Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 4216 (9/12/01 6:12:05 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories An odd thing about the WTC bombing was that as a strategic "target," it was almost completely meaningless. Even during the Manhattan office space boom of recent years, the towers weren't close to 100% occupancy (perhaps that's a good thing). But it meant that the tenants there, aside from Morgan and a few others you may have heard of, were mostly small businesses, many of them Chinese and Korean start-up companies that located in WTC office space in part because rents were relatively cheap due to a lack of demand. Not that this sick attack would have meaning under any circumstances, but to mistake the tenants in these struggling buildings for a strategic target is outrageous and all the more tragic. Walkill Gaunce Fan Club Baseball Mom Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 7703 (9/12/01 7:25:30 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories I'm adding another. So there. In 1987, I worked for a year in the Empire State Building. Gorgeous view. Come to think of it, the only really good thing about that job was the view. But I digress. I worked on the 49th floor, with an office with a southern view. On a few occasions, D-Dad came in with his camera and took some photos from there. I found the album with those photos today. Absolutely beautiful shots of the downtown skyline. Some of them could have been postcards - just magnificent. I still can't believe it's gone. I will be a total wreck the first time we drive to New York and they are not part of the view. September 11, 2001 - A Day Which Will Live in Infamy doc g Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 3159 (9/12/01 9:46:33 pm) Reply | Edit Re: World Trade Center Memories Whenever I drive back home these days from spending time with my daughters upstate, my first sight of the city is usually about five miles after getting off the the Thruway on route 17 in New Jersey. At the crest of a hill, the upper 3/4s of Manhattan's skyline suddenly comes into view, and I think "Oz" every time. It will still be Oz-like when I make that drive next week, but now I'm thinking it will be a much sadder, heavier first thought to have. BTW, if you folks don't hear from me for a few days, it's because I'm going upstate to see my kids for a few days. My university is going to be closed all week long, and I can't do any writing or anything, so that's the best use I can think of for myself the next few days. I plan to be back early next week. "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." -- Napoleon Bonaparte JonathanArcher Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 623 (9/12/01 9:55:34 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories Be well Doc - and give your kids some extra hugs. "Oh, I know Hamlet, and what he might say with irony, I say with conviction:" Met Jim Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 1293 (9/12/01 11:01:06 pm) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories From PA I travelled to the city many times to catch Mets games and hang out at my college roomates house. We went into Manhattan many times. Each time I had to drag him to the observation deck to be on top of the world for that minute. It was the most spectacular view and I could never get enough of it. When we were trying to get a game plan together for the picnic I told my wife how much fun it would be to go sightseeing and definitely go up in the WTC, she'd never been to NYC before. We couldn't get there this year, and I can't believe that would be my last chance to see that view ever again. not worth my time, call me in March ! Mitch45 Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 899 (9/12/01 11:31:33 pm) Reply Memories are all that's left My two favorite places to take relatives visting from out of town were the roof of Tower 1 and the South Street Seaport. The view from Tower 1 was amazing...on a clear day, you could see as far as the Catskill Mountains...things were always so quiet and peaceful up there, far above the bustling crowd below. It was like being in another world. Hard to believe that something that brought so much happiness and pride to so many could come to so ignominious an end... Duan Mets All-Star Posts: 327 (9/13/01 7:57:05 am) Reply Re: Memories are all that's left My favourite memory of the world trade centre is when I took my then 9 year old brother to it. He was in NYC for four days in total; The whole town just seems so enourmous to a child, but getting him to stand in between then twin towers was such a kick, as he tried to fathom just how high they were, and that there wasn't just one, but two of them. cooby Mets Starter Posts: 69 (9/15/01 11:05:20 am) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories I can remember back when the Empire State Building was still the tallest building in New York, but I remember reading about the towers being built in our Weekly Readers at school. It took a long time in my little kid head for it to register that the Empire State Building was no longer the tallest! Last year, when I took my son to NYC for the first time in his life, I remember pointing out the WTC to him, but he doesn't remember it. I wish he did. oasisNoel Mets Hall-Of-Famer Posts: 1060 (9/15/01 11:17:03 am) Reply Re: World Trade Center Memories I live on the south shore of LI and we have a boat, so whenever we'd be out on the water even if it was cloudy out you could always tell where you were by looking west at the WTC towers and the Empire State Building. Driving yesterday back from Jones Beach, its amazing how empty it looks without those two landmarks there.
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| cooby May 20 2006 06:36 AM |
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Bret, this is great...
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| Rockin' Doc May 20 2006 07:03 AM |
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What a trip down memory lane. A day that should never be forgotten.
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| SteveJRogers May 20 2006 07:07 AM |
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Back up as of this morning
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