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BLC Challenge - Dave Matthews Band vs. Los Lobos

ScarletKnight41 May 17 2006 09:13 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on May 17 2006 09:17 PM

Bring it On! 1. Ants Marching 2. Dancing Nancies 3. Two Step 4. What You Are 5. Grey Street 6. Warehouse 7. 41 8. What Would You Say 9. Crush 10. Stay (Wasting Time)

A Boy Named Seo May 17 2006 09:15 PM

Looks like "Crush" is trying to sneak in there twice. Counter with a double dose of "La Bamba".

ScarletKnight41 May 17 2006 09:15 PM

Sorry - I'll fix that. On Edit - fixed.

Edgy DC May 17 2006 09:22 PM

Is she up, or do we wait until the soup challenges have closed? I'll go get my lineup. OE: Will the Wolf Survive? Set Me Free (Rosa Lee) The Neighborhood Down on the Riverbed One Time One Night Angel Dance When the Circus Comes Tears of God I Wanna Be Like You (The Monkey Song) Come on, Let's Go

ScarletKnight41 May 17 2006 09:27 PM

Well, I'm going to be out all day tomorrow, so this can stay up until it's time to rock.

Willets Point May 17 2006 09:31 PM

I'm of the opinion that since the BLC has slowed down considerably on its own due to declining and diverted interests that we don't really need to artificially slow things down at this time.

Edgy DC May 17 2006 09:40 PM

vs. "Ants Marching" vs. "Will the Wolf Survive?" "Dancing Nancies" vs. "Set Me Free (Rosa Lee)" "Two Step" vs. "The Neighborhood" "What You Are" vs. "Down on the Riverbed" "Grey Street" vs. "One Time One Night" "Warehouse" vs. "Angel Dance" "41" vs. "When the Circus Comes" "What Would You Say?" vs. "Tears of God" "Crush" vs. "I Wanna Be Like You (The Monkey Song)" "Stay (Wasting Time)" vs. "Come on, Let's Go"

sharpie May 18 2006 09:20 AM

Gonna have to brush up on both of these bands before voting.

Edgy DC May 18 2006 09:23 AM

]I'm of the opinion that since the BLC has slowed down considerably on its own due to declining and diverted interests that we don't really need to artificially slow things down at this time. In other words, "Come On, Let's Go!"

soupcan May 18 2006 09:38 AM

"Ants Marching" vs. "Will the Wolf Survive?" LOS LOBOS "Dancing Nancies" vs. "Set Me Free (Rosa Lee)"LOS LOBOS "Two Step" vs. "The Neighborhood" LOS LOBOS "What You Are" vs. "Down on the Riverbed" LOS LOBOS "Grey Street" vs. "One Time One Night" LOS LOBOS "Warehouse" vs. "Angel Dance" LOS LOBOS "41" vs. "When the Circus Comes"LOS LOBOS "What Would You Say?" vs. "Tears of God" DAVE MATTHEWS BAND "Crush" vs. "I Wanna Be Like You (The Monkey Song)" DAVE MATTHEWS BAND "Stay (Wasting Time)" vs. "Come on, Let's Go" LOS LOBOS LOS LOBOS - 8 / DAVE MATTHEWS BAND - 2

Willets Point May 18 2006 03:19 PM

"Ants Marching"vs."Will the Wolf Survive?" Dave Matthews Band "Dancing Nancies"vs."Set Me Free (Rosa Lee)" Dave Matthews Band "Two Step"vs."The Neighborhood" Dave Matthews Band "What You Are"vs."Down on the Riverbed" Los Lobos "Grey Street"vs."One Time One Night" Tie "Warehouse"vs."Angel Dance" Dave Matthews Band "41"vs."When the Circus Comes" Los Lobos "What Would You Say?"vs."Tears of God" Los Lobos "Crush"vs."I Wanna Be Like You (The Monkey Song)" Los Lobos "Stay (Wasting Time)"vs."Come on, Let's Go" Los Lobos Dave Matthews Band 4.5:5.5 Los Lobos DMB could really go in for the kill by letting go of some of the overplayed radio favorites. For some odd reason their most mediocre songs are released as singles imho.

ScarletKnight41 May 18 2006 03:32 PM

I think I'll vote this time around. "Ants Marching" vs. "Will the Wolf Survive?" DMB "Dancing Nancies" vs. "Set Me Free (Rosa Lee)" DMB "Two Step" vs. "The Neighborhood" DMB "What You Are" vs. "Down on the Riverbed" DMB "Grey Street" vs. "One Time One Night" DMB "Warehouse" vs. "Angel Dance" DMB "41" vs. "When the Circus Comes" DMB "What Would You Say?" vs. "Tears of God" DMB "Crush" vs. "I Wanna Be Like You (The Monkey Song)" DMB "Stay (Wasting Time)" vs. "Come on, Let's Go" DMB It's one sided, but I wouldn't have picked these songs unless I liked them. DMB 10, Los Lobos 0

Edgy DC May 19 2006 10:06 AM

"Ants Marching" vs. "Will the Wolf Survive?" Scratchy fiddling wins it for DMB. That drummer just makes me turn stations though. "Dancing Nancies" vs. "Set Me Free (Rosa Lee)" Lobos. "Two Step" vs. "The Neighborhood" It’s the Matthews band with Mariachi playing here while the Lobos play the blues. I’ll give DMB this one, as they sound more like Los Lobos (honkin’ sax also) than Los Lobos. "What You Are" vs. "Down on the Riverbed" Lobos. I’m enjoying searching the DMB catalog for these songs, and enjoying them more than I thought I might, but, still, the weighty airs of ambiguous traumas rings false to me. "Grey Street" vs. "One Time One Night" Lobos. Maybe I’d like “Grey Street” if I was younger, and it was Peter Gabriel. If you told me it was Peter Gabriel and from 1981, would I like it more? No, there’s that drumming, you see. "Warehouse" vs. "Angel Dance" Lobos. "41" vs. "When the Circus Comes" Similar songs, pacing-wise. Lobos. "What Would You Say?" vs. "Tears of God" Lobos. I know the peripatetic polyrhythms of “What Would” should blow me away, but they annoy me and seem overdone. "Crush" vs. "I Wanna Be Like You (The Monkey Song)" Lobos. Come on. Sitting? Smoking? Feeling high? Climb a freaking tree and swing! "Stay (Wasting Time)" vs. "Come on, Let's Go" Lobos. Another DMB song that I’d enjoy if the drummer cooperated. I don’t care if you want to throw a whole bunch of dynamics between beats — I’m a Stewart Copeland fan, after all — but hit the snare on the same beat each measure to frame it. You know? Lobos, 8-2.

seawolf17 May 19 2006 10:31 AM

Okay, I dl'ed the Loboses. "Ants Marching" vs. "Will the Wolf Survive?" DMB "Dancing Nancies" vs. "Set Me Free (Rosa Lee)" DMB "Two Step" vs. "The Neighborhood" DMB "What You Are" vs. "Down on the Riverbed" DMB "Grey Street" vs. "One Time One Night" Lobos "Warehouse" vs. "Angel Dance" DMB "41" vs. "When the Circus Comes" DMB "What Would You Say?" vs. "Tears of God" DMB "Crush" vs. "I Wanna Be Like You (The Monkey Song)" DMB "Stay (Wasting Time)" vs. "Come on, Let's Go" DMB 9-1 DMB. Good call on DMB; they were the next band I was going to sponsor. Should have shot higher, though.

Willets Point May 19 2006 11:18 AM

I always liked Carter Buford on the drums. If there's a member of DMB I have a problem with it's Dave Matthews with is incoherent & nasal vocals, how he tries to be cool by acting like a black guy, and his general obnoxious arrogance. The band named after him is too talented for him.

A Boy Named Seo May 20 2006 12:37 AM

Sorry, Dave. Sorry, Scarlet. "Ants Marching" vs. "Will the Wolf Survive?" Los Lobos "Dancing Nancies" vs. "Set Me Free (Rosa Lee)" Los Lobos "Two Step" vs. "The Neighborhood" Dave Matthews Band "What You Are" vs. "Down on the Riverbed" Los Lobos "Grey Street" vs. "One Time One Night" Los Lobos "Warehouse" vs. "Angel Dance" Los Lobos "41" vs. "When the Circus Comes" Los Lobos "What Would You Say?" vs. "Tears of God" Los Lobos "Crush" vs. "I Wanna Be Like You (The Monkey Song)" Dave Matthews Band. I just don't like the Monkey Song. "Stay (Wasting Time)" vs. "Come on, Let's Go" Los Lobos Los Lobos 8-2.

Edgy DC May 20 2006 12:59 AM

Maybe I'm over-reading, but I always thought their take on "The Monkey Song" was almost a commentary on an immigrant's experience, trying to adapt to native speech and custom, but still being an outsider. Now I'm the king of the swingers1 Oh, the jungle VIP I've reached the top and had to stop And that's what botherin' me2 I wanna be a man, Man Cub3 And stroll right into town And be just like the other men I'm tired of monkeyin' around! Oh, oobee doo I wanna be like you I wanna walk like you Talk like you, too You'll see it's true An ape like me Can learn to be humen too 1 Note the double meaning of "swingers." See, he can be accepted as a swinging entertainer, but not --- as we see later in the verse --- as a social equal. 2 He's at the top of his game, but he's hit a glass ceiling, like Lena Horne, entertaining at the swankiest clubs, but not able to be a member. 3 This is fascinating, "Man-Cub" is the name their calling Mowgli, the child protagonist of Jungle Book, but the singer, while being otherwise articulate, drops the final consonant of each syllable of that name, so it comes out as "Ma' Cuh," and, if you're like me, on initial listen, you might hear, I wanna be a man, America And stroll right into town. You might think that until you recall the original Disney song. But later in the song, he adds Now don't try to kid me, Man Cub (America) I made a deal with you What I desire is man's red fire To make my dream come true If you just allow your ears to make the jump from "Man Cub" to "America," it's a really moving (though goofy) song about an immigrant trying to walk the walk and talk the talk of an American, but unable to fit in. Why is he doing this? To fufill a dream he's committed to. How American a story. Not --- let it be known --- suggesting here that Chicano Americans are monkeys, or that Caucasian Americans treat them as such. Only that the singer seems to feel like one as an immigrant. The harder he tries to be something else the more he resents what he is. He should just be what he is, Mowgli knows of the monkey, and any Lobos listener with ears knows of the band. They should both just keep swinging.

Willets Point May 20 2006 01:05 AM

"Proudest Monkey" would have faced off well against "I Wanna Be Like You."

A Boy Named Seo May 20 2006 01:16 AM

Maybe so, Edgy. But I think Big Bad Voodoo Daddy ruined that song for me forever. Sometimes that kinda thing happens.

Gwreck May 20 2006 02:25 PM

"Ants Marching" vs. "Will the Wolf Survive?" DMB "Dancing Nancies" vs. "Set Me Free (Rosa Lee)" Los Lobos "Two Step" vs. "The Neighborhood" DMB "What You Are" vs. "Down on the Riverbed" Los Lobos "Grey Street" vs. "One Time One Night" DMB "Warehouse" vs. "Angel Dance" DMB "41" vs. "When the Circus Comes" DMB "What Would You Say?" vs. "Tears of God" DMB "Crush" vs. "I Wanna Be Like You (The Monkey Song)" DMB "Stay (Wasting Time)" vs. "Come on, Let's Go" Los Lobos Dave Matthews Band 7, Los Lobos 3 I understand a lot of why people don't like Matthews -- voice annoying, some juvenile lyrics, etc. but the band as a whole is very talented. Beauford's polyrhytmic talent is impressive, in my opinion.

Edgy DC May 20 2006 06:13 PM

Talent doesn't always equal accomplishment.

Gwreck May 21 2006 02:26 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Talent doesn't always equal accomplishment. True, and given this reminder I kind of want to go back and edit that comment. I do think though that Beauford does have quite a bit of accomplishment. I worry less about him keeping a strict beat, although he does, mostly -- it's just a very, very deep pocket -- because the bass and acoustic guitar in the band can keep the rhythm. The drums in the band are at times serving the traditional function of a "melody" rather than the rhythm instrument.

sharpie May 22 2006 08:30 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 22 2006 09:23 AM

Your Final: Dave Matthews Band 39.5 Los Lobos 30.5

ScarletKnight41 May 22 2006 09:11 AM

Cool - my first BLC win!

Edgy DC May 22 2006 04:44 PM

Accomplishment apparently doesn't equal attainment either. Fudgesickels.