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J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS --- 2006-07

Elster88 May 11 2006 01:36 PM

2006 Schedule Preseason: Week 1 (Aug. 10-14) at Tampa Bay Week 2 (Aug. 17-21) at Washington Week 3 (Aug. 24-28) NY Giants Week 4 (Aug. 31-Sept. 2) Philadelphia Regular Season: Sep 10 @Tennessee 1:00pm Sep 17 New England 4:15pm Sep 24 @Buffalo 1:00pm Oct 1 Indianapolis 1:00pm Oct 8 @Jacksonville 4:05pm Oct 15 Miami 4:15pm Oct 22 Detroit 1:00pm Oct 29 @Cleveland 4:15pm Week 9 BYE Nov 12 @New England 1:00pm Nov 19 Chicago 1:00pm Nov 26 Houston 1:00pm Dec 3 @Green Bay 1:00pm Dec 10 Buffalo 1:00pm Dec 17 @Minnesota 1:00pm Dec 25 @Miami 8:30pm Dec 31 Oakland 1:00pm

KC May 11 2006 01:42 PM

I kind of drifted into not opening the last thread towards the end, by most accounts the Jets ranked very well on what team did what in the draft compared to the other teams. Should be exciting if the youngins can make a quick impact. On a forum note, I hope we can get another turkey roast planned for a Jets game again this year - that was cool. The Chinese Box Rocks.

Elster88 May 11 2006 01:46 PM

Only 2 home games this year start after 1.

KC May 11 2006 01:48 PM

I like when the bye is smack dab in the middle of the season.

Elster88 May 11 2006 01:49 PM

MNF on Christmas. I wish that was in New York. The Fins don't like the cold. Edit: MNF moving to 8:30 on its new channel? Who authorized that?

Frayed Knot May 11 2006 02:55 PM

Elster88 wrote: Only 2 home games this year start after 1. That's the advantage you get when your team suxx. Ticket-holding fans of teams coming off a good year get screwed with lots of night games and 4:00 games (which are essentially night games for north-east & mid-west cities once you're into October and later)

Nymr83 May 11 2006 03:35 PM Re: J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS --- 2006-07

Regular Season: Sep 10 @Tennessee 1:00pm W 1-0 Sep 17 New England 4:15pm L 1-1 Sep 24 @Buffalo 1:00pm L 1-2 Oct 1 Indianapolis 1:00pm L 1-3 Oct 8 @Jacksonville 4:05pm W 2-3 Oct 15 Miami 4:15pm W 3-3 Oct 22 Detroit 1:00pm W 4-3 Oct 29 @Cleveland 4:15pm L 4-4 Week 9 BYE Nov 12 @New England 1:00pm L 4-5 Nov 19 Chicago 1:00pm L 4-6 Nov 26 Houston 1:00pm W 5-6 Dec 3 @Green Bay 1:00pm L 5-7 Dec 10 Buffalo 1:00pm L 5-8 Dec 17 @Minnesota 1:00pm W 6-8 Dec 25 @Miami 8:30pm W 7-8 Dec 31 Oakland 1:00pm W 8-8 8-8, 3 games back in the division (to NE), mathematically eliminated after the minnesota game but before the start of the miami game.

Elster88 May 11 2006 03:46 PM

It's May.

Willets Point May 11 2006 03:47 PM

I'm so glad the old Jets thread was shitcanned.

Elster88 May 11 2006 03:52 PM

You misspelled "archived".

Vic Sage May 12 2006 11:18 AM

New regime is building the O-line first! Well done boys! Sep 10 @Tennessee 1:00pm W 1-0 Sep 17 New England 4:15pm W 2-0 Sep 24 @Buffalo 1:00pm L 2-1 Oct 1 Indianapolis 1:00pm L 2-2 Oct 8 @Jacksonville 4:05pm W 3-2 Oct 15 Miami 4:15pm W 4-2 Oct 22 Detroit 1:00pm W 5-2 Oct 29 @Cleveland 4:15pm L 5-3 Week 9 BYE Nov 12 @New England 1:00pm L 5-4 Nov 19 Chicago 1:00pm W 6-4 Nov 26 Houston 1:00pm W 7-4 Dec 3 @Green Bay 1:00pm W 8-4 Dec 10 Buffalo 1:00pm L 8-5 Dec 17 @Minnesota 1:00pm L 8-6 Dec 25 @Miami 8:30pm L 8-7 Dec 31 Oakland 1:00pm W 9-7 9-7, almost win the WC better luck next year... if we get a speed rusher off the end, its 10-6, with a WC berth

Nymr83 May 12 2006 06:50 PM

another prediction (though inconsistent with my last one): the Jets fall to 5-11 thanks to Martin playing 2 games total and Pennington sucking. Clemens comes in to end the season 3-3, the jets d-line is better than anyone thinks when they actually get BETTER against the rush thanks to abraham's absense. the o-line struggles early but by the end of the year those who actually watch the games will be very happy with the 2 draft picks while those who dont watch the games will be crying "why didnt we take leinart" after he has a decent year in arizona with those good young receivers

DocTee May 12 2006 07:04 PM

why do both prognosticators have the Jets losing game 3 in Buffalo? I reckon they can start 2-1.

Nymr83 May 12 2006 07:22 PM

i just think buffalo is a better team than they are given credt for and i think the jets will take time to gel while McGahee runs rampant

Yancy Street Gang Jun 11 2006 09:36 AM

Bump.

MFS62 Jun 12 2006 01:14 PM

Hmmm. Looks like every other team could move one step closer to the next Super Bowl.: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830 It takes a special kind of schmuck not to wear a motorcycle helmet. Later

PatchyFogg Jun 16 2006 09:58 PM

Last night, Jets beat writer Randy Lange of the Bergen Record was our guest live from Minicamp. The interview is 54 commercial-free minutes of nothing but Jets talk, and is in MP3 format. Here's the link: http://hosted.filefront.com/patchyfogg And, here's the list of topics discussed in chronological order: --Chad Pennington looking good --Patrick Ramsey --Kellen Clemens --Brooks Bollinger --A discussion of Eric Mangini’s Camp vs. Herm Edward’s Camp (“crispness, tempo”) --Mangini’s demeanor in the Minicamp --The players on Mangini’s approach --Will this team finish above .500? --The old and young on the coaching staff --Brian Schottenheimer is not afraid to yell (dropping F-Bombs on Bollinger) --How much of these practices do the media really get to watch? --Players who are older than some of the coaches --Coles stepping up --The WR corps and their speed --Dwight/Cotchery/McCareins/BrdSmith --Curtis Martin, Starting HB --Derrick Blaylock --Cedric Houston --Leon Washington --Running Back by Committee? --The Offensive Line --Trey Teague is injured! --Nick Mangold --D’Brick wearing #60 and Kendall says Bricks's the LT --The 3-4 Defense --Bryan Thomas at LB --Dewayne Robertson --David Barrett, Andre Dyson, Justin Miller --3 different CB alignments --“Every position is open” --Mangini not declaring #1 starters --Who’s gonna take Abraham’s place? --Victor Hobson, Eric Barton, Shaun Ellis, Kerry Rhodes, Erik Coleman, Brad Kassell, Eric Smith --Chris Baker, 1st Team TE --Doug Jolley --Joel Dreesen --Jason Pociask --BJ Askew --Cedric Houston, again --Mangini’s practice of giving equal 1st team reps to all the QB’s --If you only watched the morning practice, you wouldn’t know about Chad --The players’ living arrangements during Minicamp --Sources tell Randy that the Jets will still be at Hofstra in 2007. --A discussion of media access to the team --No information was given to the reporters about Trey Teague’s injury --Media access to the assistant coaches --Since he was hired, the majority of the media has not been able to talk with Brian Schottenheimer --What kind of Offense will they run? --Who’s on the Hot Seat? --Kevin Mawae a clubhouse lawyer? --John Abraham --Kimo Von Oelhoffen --Matt Chatham --Because Randy wrote the book Stadium Stories: New York Jets, we asked him to pick (with the exception of Super Bowl III) his Desert Island Jets Games. As always, thanks for listening. And, please tell a Jets fan friend.

Willets Point Jul 18 2006 03:16 PM

Good lord, exhibition season is probably starting now.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:13 PM

3 weeks from yesterday.

HahnSolo Jul 19 2006 12:51 PM

New Year's Eve with a probably bad Jets team facing the Raiders? Things could get real ugly in that crowd.

MFS62 Jul 27 2006 11:47 AM

The Jets formally signed Da' Brick yesterday and have reportedly reached agreement with the next two players they selected in the recent draft. Later

sharpie Jul 27 2006 11:50 AM

I hate talk of football at this time of year.

Nymr83 Jul 28 2006 01:21 PM

Nick Mangold and "I'm not related to Roger" Clemens have signed. Martin is on the physically unable to perform list. Everyone ready for a rebuilding year?

MFS62 Jul 28 2006 01:48 PM

Nymr83 wrote: Everyone ready for a rebuilding year? I expect one. But that doesn't mean I'm ready for one. Later

Vic Sage Aug 02 2006 01:22 PM

Mangini has them practicing in pads today, in 100+ degree heat, at 2pm. If he's trying to "set a tone", i think he's accomplishing that. The tone, however, might be deafening enough to cause some players to tune out at some point, as they have on many other a hard-ass coach. Its a fine line. Bellicheck failed at first with Cleveland, because he didn't know where the line was. When he got a 2nd chance in NE, he had come to understand how to use discipline to motivate, not to alienate. I hope Mangini gets to that point quicker than "the genius" did. And i hope nobody dies during practice today.

Willets Point Aug 02 2006 01:24 PM

If they would just wait until baseball season was over to start football season, none of this would be a problem.

Nymr83 Aug 03 2006 01:35 AM

they could let football run later if it started later, instead of ending february 1st it should run straight through to mid-march also, they could completely eliminate the NHL since there would no longer be a gap between the Superbowl and Spring Training so nobody would even notice.

Willets Point Aug 03 2006 07:44 AM

Nymr83 wrote: also, they could completely eliminate the NHL since there would no longer be a gap between the Superbowl and Spring Training so nobody would even notice. Good plan, but don't eliminate the NHL, just move all those franchises in the South and Southwest into Canada where people care about hockey.

Vic Sage Aug 03 2006 11:11 AM

Can we then send the entire MISL to Ireland? [note: see :)] i read today that Mangini came to his senses yesterday and moved the practice from 2pm to 5:45.

Nymr83 Aug 04 2006 08:06 PM

McCareins now joins Martin on the Physically Unable to Perform list. this could be a long year.

Vic Sage Aug 07 2006 10:01 AM

McCareins is ok, he's just in Mangini's doghouse for showing up out of shape. I've read where Mangini might even make an example of him by cutting him, as a warning to other vets that nobody's job is safe. Chad looks to have the QB job locked up already.

Elster88 Aug 07 2006 10:09 AM

It was scary on SportsCenter the other day. Looked like he still couldn't throw.

Vic Sage Aug 07 2006 12:05 PM

that reminds me of an old joke: a guy goes to a doctor to treat his broken hand. He says, "doc, will i be able to play the violin?" The doctor examines his hand and says reassuringly "certainly, my boy!!" And the guy says, "thats funny... i never could before!"

MFS62 Aug 07 2006 01:51 PM

Vic Sage wrote: that reminds me of an old joke: a guy goes to a doctor to treat his broken hand. He says, "doc, will i be able to play the violin?" The doctor examines his hand and says reassuringly "certainly, my boy!!" And the guy says, "thats funny... i never could before!" BA DA BUM! If I can gain 150 pounds in one week, I could get listed #3 on the depth chart for nose tackle. Later

metirish Aug 14 2006 04:15 PM

The Jets traded Derrick Strait to the Browns for Lee Suggs today.

KC Aug 14 2006 04:40 PM

It's gonna be a lonnnggggg year if Curtis ain't around.

Elster88 Aug 14 2006 04:42 PM

I'd say it's bad when there is uncertainty at the quarterback and running back positions.

KC Aug 14 2006 04:51 PM

Note to self: Start chatter about 2nd Annual CPF Jets Tailgate Extravaganza.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 14 2006 04:59 PM

I'll be there Opening Day along with D-Dad :)

KC Aug 14 2006 05:06 PM

Can't do it opening day, too hard for people to acquire tickets if they have to. I have to find a schedule and look it over.

Elster88 Aug 18 2006 03:48 PM

The Jets over/under for wins is 6.5. I so badly want to take the under. But I won't.

Elster88 Aug 18 2006 03:48 PM

And that post heads the next page. Yes I am a gambling junkie.

Nymr83 Aug 18 2006 06:37 PM

i'm suprised it is that high, this team has NOTHING "going for it" The QB situation is unsettled, the RB is old and injured, the WRs are mediocre, the o-line has 2 rookies, and the defense is trying a whole new scheme and lost a great defensive lineman. is there a plus side to this team? the punter? a line of "5" seems much more appropriate...for me to take the over it would need to be 4.5

metirish Aug 20 2006 08:23 PM

From ESPN.... ]Filling their need for an every-down tailback in the absence of star Curtis Martin, the New York Jets on Sunday acquired five-year veteran Kevan Barlow from San Francisco in exchange for an undisclosed pick in the 2007 draft. A league source said Sunday night that the pick involved is a fourth-round choice that can become a higher selection if Barlow reaches predetermined performance levels, but neither team confirmed that.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 20 2006 08:24 PM

Who's going to be at the home opener on September 17th?

MFS62 Aug 22 2006 02:30 PM

From the SNY Website: ]Fighter Jets Most of the roster is in a fight for playing time this summer Brian Custer has liked what he's seen from D'Brickashaw Ferguson this summer. (AP) After spending a week out at Jets camp in Hofstra, here are a few thoughts about some of the key competition battles. RUNNING BACK I think the addition of Kevan Barlow will make Derrick Baylock and Cedric Houston play better. You can see that, after the Lee Suggs fiasco went down, both of those guys ran with more purpose against Washington on Saturday. Barlow is big and has speed, but fumbles too much and has a big-time attitude. I just hope he doesn't come in and wear out his welcome like he did in San Francisco after getting a big contract. I think the Jets want Barlow to win this job because I don't think Curtis Martin will play this year. QUARTERBACK Patrick Ramsey got the start against Washington and he looked a lot like the same quarterback the Redskins got rid of: indecisive, held the ball too long and took too many sacks. Ramsey has the arm Pennington would love, but Chad makes the decisions that Patrick needs to start making or otherwise he will become the third-string guy because the club is high on rookie Kellen Clemens. He has a great arm and manages the game well. If he's coached right, he could be a good one. Chad will be the regular season starter, but he leaves so much air in his throws that even if he makes the right decision with the ball, corners will have enough time to recover and pick them off. Bollinger has looked O.K during camp and I think the Jets are giving him playing time in hopes of trying to make a trade with him, instead of just cutting him. WIDE RECEIVER What has happened to Justin McCareins? He started camp on the PUP (Physically Unable to Perform) list after not being able to complete Eric Mangini's conditioning test at the beginning of camp, and since then he's remained in the Mangini doghouse. He's been practicing with the 2nd team during camp and, against the Skins, he didn't see action until the 2nd half. Jericho Cotchery, Laverneus Coles and Tim Dwight have been getting the most snaps with the 1st team. OFFENSIVE LINE Did you see D'Brickashaw Ferguson on that Brad Smith reverse touchdown? He makes a great block at the line of scrimmage, while Nick Mangold pulled and laid a guy out as well. But 30 yards down the field, Ferguson comes back into the play and lays out two Redskins to spring Smith for the touchdown. Now you see why the Jets drafted two linemen in the first round. These two kids will be studs! DEFENSIVE LINE I'm curious if Bryan Thomas can continue to play like he did against Washington. He was in the backfield nearly every play wreaking havoc. I haven't seen a lot from Johnathan Vilma so far, and I'm curious if Mangini's new 3-4 defense will be beneficial to him this season. Dwayne Robertson has still under-performed, which is why the Jets brought in Grady Jackson for a visit last week. They want someone to plug up the middle. These next two weeks are very important and will tell us a lot about this football team.

MFS62 Aug 28 2006 06:05 AM

Is it my imagination, but do both of our lines look small compared to the other teams' lines they face? Character and intelligence are nice, but there are some times that you just have to have big guys. Before the Jints game, Greg "covering in the area" Buttle said there are two kinds of lines - Big guys, who are immoble, but use weight , width and muscle to get the job done, and Mobile guys, who use quickness and agilty to get the job done. It looks like the Jets lines on both sides of the ball are neither mobile enough nor big enough. Before the last draft, I wanted them to go for a "road grader" lineman (Like Max Jean-Giles) . It looks like they didn't. Later

Elster88 Sep 09 2006 12:49 PM

Bump. I think tomorrow's opponent is garbage. But I don't think the Jets take home a W.

Nymr83 Sep 10 2006 07:25 PM

the Jets pulled it out despit a missed extra point and two missed FGs for Nugent. it wasn't all that pretty, but i don't expect a pretty game all year. i'll take the W.

Johnny Dickshot Sep 10 2006 07:52 PM

Opening day win on the road, gotta take it. I barely watched but saw 'em score then hold on tight in the final minutes. Good job Jets.

MFS62 Sep 10 2006 08:09 PM

Chad answered a lot of questions by throwing "Outside the numbers". Later

Elster88 Sep 10 2006 08:43 PM

Nymr83 wrote: it wasn't all that pretty I disagree. If Nugent makes his kicks it's 23-0, and Tennessee would've rolled over and died. Granted the Titans suck, but I saw good things from the Jets today.

Vic Sage Sep 11 2006 01:43 PM

J! E! T! S! JETS! JETS! JETS! If Nugent had showed up, this was a wipeout. Chad was awesome. Dyson made some great picks. Coles was back in form. Cotchery is the real deal. Baker can make some plays. There is still no running game, however. Next week, the Pats come into the house of pain! Grrrrrrrr....!!!!

Willets Point Sep 11 2006 02:47 PM

I don't think the pain the Jets will feel after being pasted by the Pats is something to celebrate.

Elster88 Sep 17 2006 05:27 PM

They are not quite getting murdered. Down 10-0 with the ball near midfield with a minute and a half left in the first half.

ScarletKnight41 Sep 17 2006 09:19 PM

Here we were in happier times - before the game began They came back and made a game of it, but ultimately came up short. Just torture :(

cooby Sep 17 2006 09:39 PM

I hope none of your crew was that ignoramus riding around on the other guy's shoulders.

Vic Sage Sep 18 2006 10:29 AM

ouch. glad they had the character to make a game of it, and Cotchery & Coles continue to perform, and Chad has his 2nd consecutive 300+ yrd day, but you can't win if you can't run, or stop the run.

Elster88 Sep 24 2006 02:20 PM

Down 10-7 late in the second half and driving in Buffalo territory.

KC Sep 24 2006 02:31 PM

Not pretty, overly penalized, windy, opening day crowd, Magahee is running like a mad man ... Jets up 14-10 at the half ... I'll take it.

Elster88 Sep 24 2006 03:23 PM

Ben Graham is the shizbizzle.

KC Sep 24 2006 04:46 PM

This is the first time I've watched SNY's Post Game Live ... lotsa good stuff so far.

MFS62 Sep 25 2006 11:21 AM

KC wrote: This is the first time I've watched SNY's Post Game Live ... lotsa good stuff so far. Hobson was interviewed after the game, and had an expression on his face like he was thinking "I hope nobody asks me about the replays that showed I stepped out of bounds on the three yard line on my touchdown run". Later

metirish Oct 01 2006 04:29 PM

Well what the hell can you say after that game....so many emotions.

cooby Oct 01 2006 08:29 PM

That was a neat ending. I was surprised it took so long for somebody to fumble!

Johnny Dickshot Oct 01 2006 09:37 PM

I applauded them going for it even tho you knew when they missed they'd lose by about... 3 points.

Elster88 Oct 02 2006 12:25 PM

Wow great game. I loved that play at the end of the game. Especially because Chad and Mangold both got to hold the ball. Mangold's flip wasn't terrible.

Frayed Knot Oct 02 2006 02:04 PM

Good for that guy who ran the kickoff out of the endzone - and all the way for a touchdown as it turned out - even as his teammate was motioning to him to take a knee. When I'm appointed NFL dictator, those who can run the ball out but choose not to get the ball on the 10, not the 20. Too many football rules - and even more coaching traditions from those who wish not to be second-guessed - encourage overly conservative play.

Johnny Dickshot Oct 02 2006 02:27 PM

That's why it was so great to see the J-E-T-S go for on 4th and goal rather than take the easy 3, or do the onsider and the fumblerooski. It's plays like that that make football fun.

MFS62 Oct 03 2006 11:40 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: That's why it was so great to see the J-E-T-S go for on 4th and goal rather than take the easy 3, or do the onsider and the fumblerooski. It's plays like that that make football fun. They should have had a touchdown on that last play. But someone missed a block on the waterboy. Later

KC Oct 08 2006 05:36 PM

Jets down 28-sniffle in Jacksonville ... thank you sir, may I have another.

Edgy DC Oct 08 2006 05:59 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Good for that guy who ran the kickoff out of the endzone - and all the way for a touchdown as it turned out - even as his teammate was motioning to him to take a knee. When I'm appointed NFL dictator, those who can run the ball out but choose not to get the ball on the 10, not the 20. Too many football rules - and even more coaching traditions from those who wish not to be second-guessed - encourage overly conservative play. When I depose you and take over, I'll award kicking and punting teams a piont if the receiving team fields the ball in the endzone, but doesn't return it. And you won't have to thank me, but thank Canada.

MFS62 Oct 08 2006 07:18 PM

That is the best CFL rule, IMO. Le rouge. Later

Nymr83 Oct 09 2006 12:42 AM

that game completely sucked ass.

MFS62 Oct 09 2006 09:09 AM

That game was uckin' fugly. I wonder what those old "Aints" fans are doing with those old head-covering bags? Later

Nymr83 Oct 22 2006 02:07 PM

who are these guys on the field today, they are running the ball as if Martin was still playing!

ScarletKnight41 Oct 22 2006 04:10 PM

I only followed this one on NFL.com, but it looks like, despite their best efforts to cough up the lead and hand it to Detroit, the Jets held on to win - 31-24.

OlerudOwned Oct 22 2006 04:13 PM

Not the Jets, but... Ex-Giant Matt "Slingblade" Bryant hits a 62-yard FG as time expires to beat the Eagles. Wowza.

MFS62 Oct 22 2006 04:24 PM

OlerudOwned wrote: Not the Jets, but... Ex-Giant Matt "Slingblade" Bryant hits a 62-yard FG as time expires to beat the Eagles. Wowza. And the sports reporters will cal it an "upset". I don't know why. The Eagles don't impress me as being a very good team. Later

Nymr83 Oct 22 2006 06:59 PM

TB had a 17-0 lead in that game which they blew.

MFS62 Oct 23 2006 07:14 AM

Nymr83 wrote: who are these guys on the field today, they are running the ball as if Martin was still playing! Nahh, I knew that wasn't Martin right away. he broke a tackle, then outran someone. Later

Elster88 Oct 23 2006 08:52 AM

Nymr83 wrote: TB had a 17-0 lead in that game which they blew. What are you talking about? Tampa won yesterday.

Vic Sage Oct 23 2006 10:24 AM

this is the J-E-T-S thread. get your own damn thread, if you want to discuss non-Jets football. Especially after a win that sets them up nicely for a possible over-.500 record this season (given the weakness of the rest of their schedule). Hell, if Neon Leon is for real, this team even has a shot at the post-season! Now all they have to do is figure out how to stop the run. ]Nahh, I knew that wasn't Martin right away. he broke a tackle, then outran someone. you dissin' Curtis? you want me to find you and beat you to death? I know what you look like now.

MFS62 Oct 23 2006 10:34 AM

Vic Sage wrote: you dissin' Curtis? you want me to find you and beat you to death? I know what you look like now. No, not really dissin' him. He has been a trouper and should be a slam dunk Hall of Famer. He was as steady as they come. But as a Jets fan since they were the Titans of New York in the AFL, I have seen the Jets lack the third and one running back since John Riggins left. And if there was anything Curtis couldn't do, it was move the pile or break a tackle. It wasn't that he didn't try, but he had his limitations, like any human being. One of them was breaking tackles. When hit, he went down faster than a zipper at a peep show. And, I don't think there is anyone who would pay to see us fight. :) Later

ScarletKnight41 Oct 23 2006 11:31 AM

Nymr83 Oct 23 2006 01:15 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="Nymr83"]TB had a 17-0 lead in that game which they blew. What are you talking about? Tampa won yesterday. they blew the 17-0 lead, they then re-took the lead.

MFS62 Oct 23 2006 01:19 PM

Is it my imagination or has the title of this thread been changed to include the possibility of post-December Jets football? IIRC it was originally titled 2006. Later

Willets Point Oct 23 2006 01:56 PM

="ScarletKnight41"] Poor kid hasn't had a chance to overcome one heartbreak and now you're setting him up for another.

MFS62 Oct 23 2006 02:00 PM

Sorry, this PC doesn't display the picture Scarlet posted. All I get is a box with a red X in it. Later

Elster88 Oct 23 2006 02:05 PM

Vic Sage wrote: this is the J-E-T-S thread. get your own damn thread, if you want to discuss non-Jets football. I think the Giants will win tonight.

MFS62 Oct 23 2006 02:09 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="Vic Sage"]this is the J-E-T-S thread. get your own damn thread, if you want to discuss non-Jets football. I think the Giants will win tonight. Vic, I think we just found somebody else for you to fight. Later

Nymr83 Oct 29 2006 05:18 PM

the Brad Smith gimmick play is being seriously overdone...the other team knows its coming by now every time htey see him under center they can bank on a run (either by him or someone else)

Elster88 Oct 29 2006 05:36 PM

It's so fucking weird. It's not even a gimmick in a way, they just hand the ball off. And they've already run it twice just this half. Then there was that other stupid play where they lined up Pennington in the slot. Mangini is getting waaaaay too cute. Or whoever is calling plays.

Nymr83 Oct 29 2006 07:09 PM

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT GET RID OF THE FUCKIN INSTANT REPLAY IF YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO LOOK AT A PLAY LIKE THAT. i'm not saying he was definetaly forced out, but how the hell can that not be looked at?

Elster88 Oct 29 2006 07:10 PM

metirish Oct 29 2006 07:13 PM

Yeah it really makes little sense not to take a look because the clock was under two minutes,some catch though.

KC Oct 29 2006 07:16 PM

Ug, 4-4 is prolly better than most of us expected. Hey, is there any interest in having a CPF tailgate for the Chicago game? I meant to bring this up much earlier in the year but stuff happened.

Nymr83 Oct 29 2006 07:23 PM

THIS AIN'T THE GIANTS THREAD! but i suppose for tailgating its forgiveable. i was going by what the anouncers were saying, but according to my friend you actually CAN'T review a force-out call, is this true? i'd be a whole hell of alot less angry if it is. why is Elster's post a blank page? edit- and yeah 4-4 is better than i expected, but that doesnt excuse losing to Cleveland today.

KC Oct 29 2006 07:33 PM

Bears visit the Jets on the 19th.

Johnny Dickshot Oct 29 2006 08:01 PM

I hate to discuss every football game that ends closely with a variation on this theme, but if a rusher need only to "break the plane" with the ball to be awarded a TD, why must a receiver have a such a ridiculously more difficult standard to meet? I demand a consistent set of rules or games will end ths unsatisfyingly all the time.

KC Oct 29 2006 08:15 PM

Football rules suck. It's like "the ground can't cause a fumble", which causes me to usually yell, "BUT IT JUST DID!!!".

cooby Oct 29 2006 10:10 PM

KC wrote: Bears visit the Jets on the 19th. Root for Robbie

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2006 10:29 PM

My first reaction was the same as Dickshot's: a runner needs only to "break the plane" which is the same thing as saying that he (not even him actually, only the ball itself) need only be over the end zone's "airspace" ... but a receiver - who has ball, feet, body, mind & soul, over a much bigger chunk of the EZ's airspace - can be denied a TD based on what happens after he gains possession of the ball. The reasoning, I suppose, is that it's not officially a catch until he lands legally but, again, the running back can land on his butt on the 2 yardline and still get credit for the 6 points as long as his fingertips scraped the area above the goal line for a split second. On the "force out" rule * I hate it! If you're going to make the receiver have two feet in bounds before you call it a catch then the defense should get credit for legally preventing him from doing so. That's one of those stupid rules they came up with a bunch of years back when they were trying to articficially pump up scoring. * That said, that receiver was clearly going to come down in bounds IMO. I hate the rule but if you're going to have it, call it. * you can't review this one because is a judgement call - which is something that points out one of the (many) problems with the replay rule. Whenever you say you're going to use replay for this but not that, or here but not there, it's like trying to stay only sort of pregnant. It clearly didn't work in this case but this would be exactly the type of play that people would cite as a reason to institute one if it did not yet exist. Replay rules are like bunt strategies, both are real easy to pretend that they'll be near perfect if/when they're employed.

MFS62 Oct 30 2006 08:58 AM

With today's technology, they can clearly depict the trajectory of a thrown pitch, from the time it leaves the pitcher's hand to the time it either reaches the catcher's mitt or is hit. And if its hit, the same computerization can show where it would have been caught had its flight not been interfered with. Why can't they use the same technology to show where a receiver would have landed if not pushed out of bounds? A player up in the air is, like a baseball, a body in flight. Football already uses the replay, so we're not talking about putting a whole new set of rules here. Later

HahnSolo Oct 30 2006 09:14 AM

As a Jet fan what really burns me up about that play is that I've seen that play hundreds of times, and the refs always, always, give the receiver the benefit of the doubt. The one time I need the call for my team, it goes the other way. It was a terrible call. And if you notice, that official at the goal line gave one of the most tepid incomplete calls you're ever going to see. Check the replay for that. I also don't need to hear, and Mike and Mike on ESPN radio were guilty of this, that Jets fans shouldn't complain because the Browns outplayed the Jets the whole game and the Jets didn't deserve to win. Are these the same Browns who, once they got to 20 points, went totally conservative? The Browns who never tried to get the ball downfield in the 4th quarter, who punted the ball away to the Jets twice in the last 6 minutes, and who looked allergic to tackling Tim Dwight on the returns? Did they outplay the Jets the final 6 minutes? That's such a stupid argument.

metirish Oct 30 2006 09:16 AM

What sucks though is that line judge over ruled the ref who had called it a TD...

Vic Sage Oct 30 2006 11:46 AM

Hahn, the Jets DID suck (certainly Pennington did), and they put themselves in position to get screwed by a bad call. I never complain about a call. never ever. I've seen enough bad calls go FOR my team as against them, and these things tend to even out... if not over a season, then over a lifetime. its like complaining about the weather. its the same snow for both teams. Sometimes it helps you, and sometimes it don't. If the Jets were up by 14 points, instead of down by 7, it really wouldn't matter now, would it? Chad just had a really, really bad day. It happens. I'll take 4-4 at this point. If we win 7 or more games this season, it'll be a step in the right direction.

HahnSolo Oct 30 2006 12:37 PM

Yes, I agree the Jets stunk up the joint for most of the game, and Chad played like a Pop Warner QB. I refer to commentators (Mike and Mike specifically, but you can bet Russo will join the fray today) saying that since the Jets played poorly that they have nothing to complain about. One has nothing to do with the other. In fact, how poorly the Jets performed would have made a comeback win all the more sweeter. Yes, they should have gotten seven points on that opening drive. Yes, the Washington fumble was terrible and gave away 3 points. Yes, Mangini should not have thrown that challenge flag on the punt in the 3rd quarter, costing his team a time out. But with all that, if the Browns really outplayed the Jets that badly, why were the Jets driving for the tying score in the last minutes? And putting aside team loyalty, as I mentioned in my earlier post, the officials always give the receiver the benefit of the doubt when it's close. That's why this one still bothers me. And Vic, you're better than me to never complain about an official's call.

Vic Sage Oct 30 2006 02:45 PM

HahnSolo wrote: And Vic, you're better than me to never complain about an official's call. well, i complain about a bad call when it happens. I get pissed off, scream, yell, whatever. But i don't linger on it or nurse a resentment about it and i don't blame bad calls for wins and losses any more than i'd blame any other random factors which can effect both teams. i heard some former player say the idea is to play well enough that a win shouldn't be at the mercy of a bad call.

Frayed Knot Oct 30 2006 03:25 PM

It just suxx when such a bad call comes at the exact point in the game that turns it from a 'headed-for-OT, 50/50 shot' ... into a certain loss. But, Vic's right, football fans in particular blame bad calls too often. I think because it's a season with so few games, they're more guilty than others at tending to look at things through a skewed prism where all the breaks that went against them are reversed but none of the ones which went for them are altered. "... well, yeah, we were only 6-10 this year ... but we lost those three games by less than 5 points, and there were two others where the refs screwed us, plus the one where one where our big guy got hurt in the 2nd quarter ... so, when you look at it, we were really 11-5" ! No, you were really 6-10, and I'm guessing you had a few things go your way in those 6 wins that we're mysteriously ignoring at the moment.

Nymr83 Oct 30 2006 04:34 PM

but thats the difference between football and baseball, in baseball a single blown call will have much less of an effect and will be more likely to even itself out over the course of a season.

Vic Sage Oct 30 2006 05:28 PM

Nymr83 wrote: but thats the difference between football and baseball, in baseball a single blown call will have much less of an effect and will be more likely to even itself out over the course of a season. its no different. whining about calls is whining about calls. some go your way and some don't. sure, its more frustrating in football, because its only 16 games, not 162, so every loss is more painful and more meaningful. but calls are calls, weather is weather, injuries are injuries, and none of them can you do anything about, so why dwell on it? If you want to reverse the bad calls against you, then lets give back the bad calls we got in our favor. As i said, maybe it doesn't even out in a particular season, but it does in a lifetime of watching football games.

Nymr83 Oct 30 2006 05:35 PM

]ts no different. whining about calls is whining about calls. some go your way and some don't. sure, its more frustrating in football, because its only 16 games, not 162, so every loss is more painful and more meaningful. and because every game is more meaningful its more likely that a season will be lost on a bad call.

MFS62 Nov 01 2006 09:59 AM

Upon hearing that Curtis Martin may not play again due to his knee injury, Bill Parcells said: "He doesn't deserve a funeral. He deserves a parade". Later

Vic Sage Nov 01 2006 10:15 AM

="Nymr83"] ]and because every game is more meaningful its more likely that a season will be lost on a bad call. your missing my point again. the game wasn't lost on a bad call. the game was lost because once again the Jets couldn't stop the run, and once again they didn't have a running game of their own, and Pennington had the worst day of his professional career. One quick look at the stats will show you a Jets team that was beaten in just about every category by an inferior Browns team. The fallacy of the "straw that broke the camel's back" is to give undue weight to the last straw when it weighs no more than any of the straws that came before it. The Jets played a 1-5 team with a new offensive coordinator, and they put control of the game into the hands of the officials. They have no one to blame but themselves. Elster88 Nov 01 2006 10:40 AM The loss itself doesn't bother me so much, this is a rebuilding year. What pisses me off about that fucking call is that it ruined what would've been an amazing game-tying play. Fourth down, need a touchdown to tie, 25-some-odd yards to the end zone, last minute of the game. Chad ducks his head and twists his right shoulder to send the first lineman flying by like he's Michael Vick, takes a few steps, throws an absolutely PERFECT ball (not a laser but perfect arc...in fact he couldn't put a lot of mustard on it because he had to give Baker time to adjust his route) where only Baker can grab it with another guy right in his face and a split-second from smacking him. On Baker's end: his pattern was an out, but he sees Chad in trouble, catches his eye, adjusts his route up the sideline and make a ONE-HANDED fully-extended catch with his feet two inches above the ground. (Kudos to whoever hit him, that was an absolute blast. From the back camera you can see Baker has plenty of room from the sideline with his toes about to scrape the ground.) That would've been one of the most amazing game tying plays in history. And if that jerkass side judge had admitted he couldn't see we would've gotten it put in the books. Yeah wins and losses get evened out but that was a rare play. Beautiful improvisation, beautifully executed, game-ending pressure. Incredible. metirish Nov 01 2006 12:48 PM [url=http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-spjchalk014955769nov01,0,6911292.column?coll=ny-sports-headlines]Middle school report card[/url] Nymr83 Nov 01 2006 03:09 PM ="Vic Sage"] Nymr83 wrote: ]and because every game is more meaningful its more likely that a season will be lost on a bad call. your missing my point again. the game wasn't lost on a bad call. the game was lost because once again the Jets couldn't stop the run, and once again they didn't have a running game of their own, and Pennington had the worst day of his professional career. One quick look at the stats will show you a Jets team that was beaten in just about every category by an inferior Browns team. The fallacy of the "straw that broke the camel's back" is to give undue weight to the last straw when it weighs no more than any of the straws that came before it. The Jets played a 1-5 team with a new offensive coordinator, and they put control of the game into the hands of the officials. They have no one to blame but themselves. you are the one who is missing the point. regardless of how well or poorly the Jets played they were in a position to tie the game late and would have done so if they hadn't been screwed by a bad call. as elster says, this is a rebuilding year, i didnt really expect much out of this team myself, but i DO expect to get a TD when my receiver is CLEARLY forced out on a catch in endzone. i'm complaining about (a) the idiotic call, lets remember that they overruled the official who was closest to the play and called it a TD, and (b) the non-reviewabilty of the call. i can complain about the Jets poor-play seperately from that. Vic Sage Nov 02 2006 10:23 AM Curtis Martin is done for the season and, though he wouldn't make it official, for his career as well. One of the best to ever don the green and white. He will be missed. KC Nov 08 2006 10:03 AM FOR SALE: Two pair of tickets to Jets vs. Houston, 11/26/2006. One pair is in Sec 128 and one pair is in Sec 127. $140/pair - face value inquiries only. Elster88 Nov 08 2006 11:56 AM ="KC"]FOR SALE: Two pair of tickets to Jets vs. Houston, 11/26/2006. One pair is in Sec 128 and one pair is in Sec 127. $140/pair - face value inquiries only. I'll take 128. If they're gone I'll take 127. If they're gone too I'll be sad. KC Nov 08 2006 12:20 PM Yeah, I still have them. I was going to put a note on the bulletin board in our office basement but thought maybe I'd get lucky online first. The 128 seats are better, I think you'll like them. Shoot me an email and we'll figure out how to get them to you. KC Nov 12 2006 02:29 PM Jets hanging around 7-6 at the half. That roughing the passer call was tough at the end of the second quarter. Hobson didn't pick up Brady, he sent him air born. Brady's getting roughed up pretty good so far, hopefully it will catch up with him and the Jets can prevail. For a goof, I took the Jets in my three strike pool this week ... so far so good. TheOldMole Nov 12 2006 02:41 PM There's something I haven't seen in a long time -- a surprise punt by Pennington, and they pin the Pats on the 5. metirish Nov 12 2006 03:42 PM Right after the Jets TD Simms called it a terrible decision by Chad,was it? TheOldMole Nov 12 2006 04:09 PM No, it worked for them. Pats got it out as far as the 30, had to punt. All in all, everything worked for the Jets. Elster88 Nov 12 2006 08:10 PM Wowowow. This is great stuff. Too bad they didn't beat Cleveland last week, if they had we'd be tied for first in the east. metirish Nov 12 2006 08:14 PM The SNY Post game is good stuff, Woody johnston greeting all the players and coaches in the tunnel with high fives and hugs,huge win for the jets,fun team to watch. Willets Point Nov 12 2006 10:51 PM The Jets actually won? I'm going to have to endure endless whining this week. Vic Sage Nov 13 2006 10:42 AM Apparently, Bill the Genius is still freezing out his former protege. He refused to use Mangini's name at the press conference, and barely acknowledged him during the obligatory post-game handshake. I had no idea Bill Belli-cose was so petty and mean spirited. metirish Nov 13 2006 11:03 AM Yeah he really seems like an ass with this, is he pissed that Mangini took the job,or is there more to it? Frayed Knot Nov 13 2006 11:12 AM It was brought up in another thread about whether this was specifically about Belicheck having an anti-Jet tantrum but he's reportedly also given a similar cold shoulder to ex-Pat kicker Viniteri who wound up elsewhere (at least partially because of cap reasons over which he had no control) so maybe B.B. just figures if you're not fer him you're agin him. You're not my friend anymore Fredo, you're not my brother. I don't want to know you, I don't want to see you ... iramets Nov 13 2006 06:46 PM No one really knows why Belicheck is so bellicose to Mangini, since he's been okay with other assistants leaving for better jobs. My assumption is that he advised Mangini to turn down the jets offer (because he wanted them to settle for a lesser talent, and so end up screwed again) but Mangini took the job. "NEVAH GO AGAINST THE FAMILY, SANTINO." Elster88 Nov 13 2006 06:59 PM Santino? When did he go against the family? Nymr83 Nov 13 2006 08:32 PM the Jets kept the season interesting with yesterday's win, alot more than i expected out of them. MFS62 Nov 13 2006 09:14 PM Elster88 wrote: Santino? When did he go against the family? When Soluzzo met with them in Don Corleone's office and asked for a million dollars in exchange for a cut of the drug action. Sonny interrupted and said something like "there's good money in that white powder". Don Corleone turned to him after the meeting ended and said something like "Don't ever tell anyone outside the family what you're thinking and don't go against the family again". Later iramets Nov 14 2006 05:33 AM Thank you, MFS62. And Elster, never go against my judgment again, or I'll make you an offer you can't refuse. That was a feel-good win against the Patriots Sunday, wasn't it? I know all wins count the same (maybe intra-divisional ones count a little more) but this one not only was big, it FELT big. I never saw a 3 point victory before that felt so dominating. Chad just controlled that fucking Foxboro field, didn't he? And Barlow...what a game. He ran over those fuckers like they weren't there. Bite this, Brewski. Go Jets!!!! ScarletKnight41 Nov 19 2006 07:14 PM Today's report from The Meadowlands - Great tailgate party. Sucky game. When the new stadium is built and has a link to NJ Transit, I'm likely to come along for the tailgate parties and then quit while I'm ahead. KC Nov 19 2006 08:56 PM Wasn't really a sucky game, sniffle-sniffle at the half against a supposedly elite team and ya can't complain too much. That interception in the end zone was rough and the other interception when Chad hurled it up and said here someone just take it we don't plan on scoring was just nutty. I missed the onside kick play that was unsuccessful, but hey ... I dig that stuff when and if it works. The Jets have lost at least three games they shoulda won this year. The loser's mantra. Yes, it was a good tailgate. We need to do a CPF tailgate in 2007. Nymr83 Nov 19 2006 09:18 PM ]The Jets have lost at least three games they shoulda won this year. The loser's mantra. This week was encouraging because of the play of the defense, this team has looked pretty decent all year and could have 8 wins right now (3 out of 4 of CHI, IND, CLE, MIA could/should have been won.) If the Jets are close enough to be in these games now they should be setup for success next year. Elster88 Nov 20 2006 06:24 PM Nymr83 wrote: (3 out of 4 of CHI, IND, CLE, MIA could/should have been won.) Let's not go crazy. Every team can say something like that every year. And our losses were legit. ---We couldn't move the ball against Chicago. (Two drives doesn't count as moving the ball.) ---We couldn't stop Indianapolis when it counted, and in fact only took the lead in the fourth quarter on a kickoff return for a touchdown. (And when we did, Peyton cut the defense to ribbons for the second time in a row to take the lead in the fourth quarter in our backyard.) ---Cleveland ran the ball down our throats all game. Despite the fact the refs blew that play at the end it was a desperation 4th down play where Pennington should've been sacked anyway...and we were down by two scores in that fourth quarter. The Jets were outplayed that game. ----Ummmmmmm...didn't we beat Miami? --------------------------------------------------- I'm pumped that we're doing so good...I would've predicted 5-11, not 5-5. But don't pretend we could be an 8-2 team with a couple of breaks. If we had gotten the breaks in the games you mention we would've lost a couple of the ones we won. It's not like we're blowing people out in our wins. And it's not like we're a better team than the Patriots (or the Bears or Colts). Nymr83 Nov 20 2006 07:00 PM yeah we beat miami so i'm confusing another game, which game did we lose on Nugent's late missed FG? i'm not saying we should have won them all (the only one i'd put the "should" label on is the Browns) but we could have and thats pretty good for a team that was supposed to be pretty bad. yeah we couldnt move the ball on Chicago, but their offense couldn't do shit either, they only scored when the onside kick and a turnover gave them good field position. and yeah we're definetaly not better than the bears or colts, i wasnt too sold on the patriots after they lost to the jets and cried and whined about it to the point of switching their field surface mid-season. they had a nice win this week but i think they'll be 1 and done in the playoffs on the road. this division will be ripe for the taking next year, metirish Nov 26 2006 03:58 PM Steve the color guy doing the game is very annoying,especially his fasination with the the expression on Mangini's face....silly stuff....Gus Johnson is no better....good win though. Vic Sage Nov 27 2006 01:59 PM total team victory, in every phase. Pennington was finally on the same page as his 2 wideouts (despite no running game), Nugent was finally effective, and Defense continues to play aggressively and well in the 2nd half of season. Elster88 Nov 27 2006 07:51 PM Kerry Rhodes! Elster88 Dec 03 2006 01:53 PM The Jets are taking the Packers behind the woodshed. 17-0 in the second. Chad is picking them to pieces. Elster88 Dec 03 2006 02:01 PM 24-0 KC Dec 03 2006 02:28 PM Holy crap, I expected a W but not like this. 31 - sniffle at the half. Cotch, Cedric, LV, Chad, The DDD ... I'm giddy, dammit! Elster88 Dec 03 2006 02:50 PM 31-3. I'm still not nervous. The Lambeau faithful wanted the Packers to go for it on 4th and 6 at the 17. They're faithful but not very bright. MFS62 Dec 03 2006 03:09 PM Elster88 wrote: The Lambeau faithful wanted the Packers to go for it on 4th and 6 at the 17. They're faithful but not very bright. Too much cheese in their diet? Later metirish Dec 03 2006 03:20 PM Nervous yet?... KC Dec 03 2006 03:25 PM humminahumminahummina Nymr83 Dec 03 2006 08:52 PM and not a .500 team to be seen the rest of the way! playoffs? MFS62 Dec 04 2006 09:22 AM If you happen to run into a Jints fan today, try to cheer him up. Remind him that with 6 wins, his team is bowl eligible. Later Elster88 Dec 08 2006 02:39 AM Buffalo. Elster88 Dec 10 2006 03:13 PM I am ridiculously pumped up for the game. Beers and pizza at the crib. metirish Dec 10 2006 07:22 PM Well that sucked... KC Dec 10 2006 08:24 PM KC: >>>Cotch, Cedric, LV, Chad, The DDD ... I'm giddy, dammit!<<< Less giddy, another season down the toilet. metirish Dec 10 2006 08:31 PM Seems as Chad goes so does this team....but that's probably true for most teams regarding the QB. Elster88 Dec 11 2006 01:06 AM The pizza didn't taste so good. KC Dec 17 2006 02:58 PM Here's an idea, let's play the rest of our games on the road vs. the NFC North. Elster88 Dec 17 2006 03:25 PM Tennessee up 24-10 to start the fourth against Jacksonville. That's huge. HUH-YUGE. And Jacksonville has New England next week. It's not over yet. MFS62 Dec 17 2006 03:41 PM Tennessee has been outgained about 3 or 4 to 1 in the game. They have scored off defensive plays. Jacksonville is really going to play pissed next week. Stat of the day. Its in the second half, and Vince Young doesn't have a rushing attempt yet. Later Nymr83 Dec 19 2006 11:48 PM Miller in the Probowl for his return touchdowns. i think Rhodes got Snubbed. MFS62 Dec 20 2006 10:01 AM Rhodes didn't get snubbed. As they might say in Boston, he got scrod. How much better can someone play safety? Later Elster88 Dec 24 2006 08:28 PM New England beating Jacksonville puts the Jets destiny back in their hands. At Miami tomorrow night. Home vs. Oaktown next weekend. Jets, bitches. Elster88 Dec 24 2006 11:03 PM Nymr83 wrote: Miller in the Probowl for his return touchdowns. i think Rhodes got Snubbed. Me too. He's disgusting. ScarletKnight41 Dec 26 2006 04:54 PM Despite themselves, the Jets won last night. Their playoff destiny is in their own slippery hands. RealityChuck Dec 26 2006 11:44 PM And Oakland is coming up. At least, this time the Raiders are finally coming to New Jersey . . . Vic Sage Dec 27 2006 03:55 PM finally, time to get revenge for the Heidi game... Nymr83 Dec 31 2006 01:01 PM J - E - T - S Vic Sage Jan 02 2007 11:35 AM Jets v Pats, round 1. i wonder what boxing match Mangenious will show to Gangreen before this game? KC Jan 04 2007 07:40 PM Pennington Named AP Comebake Player of the Year from the Jets emails/site A successful return to the field from two rotator cuff surgeries to lead his team to a 10-6 record and a berth in the AFC Playoffs earned New York Jets quarterback Chad Pennington 2006 Associated Press Comeback Player of the Year. "It does mean a lot to me because I’ve put in a lot of hard work, and a lot of people have supported me throughout the entire process and have put in a lot of hard work with me," Pennington said Thursday. "To me it’s a group award; it involves so many people in so many different areas in so many different places that have taken time out of their schedule to help get me back to being the player that I want to be. I have a chance to play the game that I love to play, so it’s special because there’s so many people involved in getting me back healthy." The seven-year pro from Marshall passed for 3,352 yards and 17 touchdowns in 2006, while completing 64.5 percent of his passes (313/485) for a 82.5 rating. For the first time in his career, he started all 16 games. “I think that is a real testament to how hard he worked and all the things he does - not just professionally but personally to put himself in a position to succeed,” said Jets head coach Eric Mangini of Pennington. The Jets, who finished 4-12 in 2005 after Pennington went down with his second shoulder injury in Week 3, are in their first year under Mangini. They have won their last three games as they head into the AFC Wild Card Playoff game at New England Sunday at 1 p.m. "I just think that understanding the process that I’ve gone through, understanding the journey that I’ve been through thus far makes it special knowing that hard work does pay off," said Pennington. "And that having the right attitude and believing in working hard and treating people right and going about doing your business the right way actually matters - it counts." Pennington is the first New York Jets player to win this award, and the fifth quarterback to get the honor in nine years. Last year's recipients were New England linebacker Tedy Bruschi and Carolina receiver Steve Smith. “I think the medical staff did an excellent job. The trainers, the doctors, and Chad all worked together to put together a plan," Mangini said. "It was a situation where everyone was open-minded, trying to explore as many different options as we possibly could as to what the best path would be. It worked, so I think it was a good path.” Pennington bested two quarterbacks in winning the award. He garnered 27 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 sportswriters and broadcasters who cover the NFL. Saints’ QB Drew Brees, the 2004 winner, finished second with 8.5 and the Bengals’ Carson Palmer was third at 5.5. Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow received five votes, Eagles’ QB Jeff Garcia got two votes, while Eagles RB Correll Buckhalter, Denver receiver Javon Walker, New Orleans RB Deuce McAllister and Tennessee RB Travis Henry each got one vote. Pennington Returns to Postseason Play Nymr83 Jan 04 2007 07:42 PM ]Pennington Named AP Comebake Player of the Year does that mean he baked the most cookies on gameday? KC Jan 04 2007 08:04 PM oopsie Nymr83 Jan 04 2007 11:39 PM what is everyone doing for the game sunday? i plan on hitting up a bar for both NY playoff games. MFS62 Jan 05 2007 07:25 AM Vic Sage wrote: Jets v Pats, round 1. i wonder what boxing match Mangenious will show to Gangreen before this game? I was thinkin' the same thing. He seems to have extensive knowledge of boxing and picks the one that best fits the situation. Later Elster88 Jan 06 2007 03:30 PM Beers and bar food at the sports bar tomorrow. And hopefully a bunch of rabid, drunk Jet fans. I love playoff football. KC Jan 06 2007 04:55 PM One o'clock, Sunday, can't come fast enough. Going to a friends basement and hanging with some of the guys I go to games with. I have a weird gut on this game ... nothing would surprise me. A blowout ei- ther way, a barn burner either way, a late special teams TD either way for the win. Watch it be a 10-7 dullfest either way. Nymr83 Jan 07 2007 02:12 AM theres nothing dull about 10-7. go defense go. cooby Jan 07 2007 09:12 AM When your teams in the playoffs, any score's exciting. Enjoy! :) ScarletKnight41 Jan 07 2007 04:08 PM Well, this season is over :( MFS62 Jan 07 2007 04:45 PM I remember saying "Wait 'till next year" when I rooted for Brooklyn. I'll say it again for the Jets. sigh Later KC Jan 07 2007 08:16 PM Thankfully, I leave today's game and this season, thinking the Jets are leaving the lovable losers (like the Brooklyn Dodgers of old and some Mets' teams for that matter) and are going in the right direction. Mangini deserves a week or two off, but something tells me he'll be laying the groundwork for next season before that even if he gets dragged off on vacation with the wife and kids. (I don't know if he's even married, but it sounded good) Frayed Knot Jan 07 2007 10:02 PM Nice season by Gang Green - they just ran into a better team today. A few fans (IMO) got kinda giddy over the better-than-expected results this season and were a bit too chipper w/their chirping about how the J-E-T-S had already passed the Patriots by (on account of their "stumbling" to a 12-4 record I guess) and how Mangini was already Belichek's equal if not superior ("he's in his head", they claimed.), etc. But all that talk was a bit premature even as a healthy and productive season out of Pennington added to some good rookie seasons by a few of those big boys up front make the immediate future look promising. Oh well. Willets Point Jan 08 2007 05:01 AM I overheard Patriots fans celebrating how sweet it was to win "especially against the Jets." I don't get it. This is totally the opposite of the Red Sox-Yankees thing. The Patriots are the three-time Super Bowl champions, with five Super Bowl appearances and one of the consistently top teams in the NFL for at least the last decade. The Jets haven't won anything since 1969 and often mediocre at best, downright pitiful at worst. If anything the Jets are like the Red Sox living in the shadow of the dominant Yankee-like Patriots, so I really don't understand the glee as if the Patriots had accomplished something better by beating the Jets. Vic Sage Jan 08 2007 11:45 AM Jets were in it until well into the 4th quarter. Down by 7, Jets couldn't stop Brady's sustained, 6-minute touchdown drive with 5 minutes to play. Then Chad got picked, and that was it. The score was not indicative of the game that the Jets played, overall. Jets never adjusted on defense, after Belicheck's quicker offensive scheme continually nullified the Jet blitz. And on offense, Jets couldn't convert in the red zone, settling for FGs. Why was Houson on the bench? Why did we totally abandon the running game? No big plays made on special teams. But I have good feelings about this season, and we've got a solid foundation for next year.