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IGT Businessmen's Special Thursday 5-25-06 Mets vs Phillies

SteveJRogers
May 25 2006 12:25 PM

And Mike & The Mad Dog on the air.

Heh, going to be hilarious for those who listen to the Mets via MLB's Internet Radio feed and hearing those two rather than professional announcers!

Gwreck
May 25 2006 12:34 PM

Philadelphia
Shane Victorino CF
Chase Utley 2B
Bobby Abreu RF
Pat Burrell LF
Ryan Howard 1B
Jimmy Rollins SS
David Bell 3B
Carlos Ruiz C
Brett Myers P

Mets
Reyes SS
LoDuca C
Beltran CF
Delgado 1B
Wright 3B
Floyd LF
Nady RF
Matsui 2B
Gonzalez P

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 12:41 PM

Let's sweep this thing!

MFS62
May 25 2006 12:43 PM

With Jeremi on the mound, something tells me I'd rather have Chavez' defense in the outfield rather than Nady's offense in the lineup. (Although a case can be made that Nady is taller, and might be able to catch balls headed over the fence.)

Later

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 12:46 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 25 2006 12:47 PM

Funny to see the A-List on a weekday. I'd've thought that Castro might get another day out there.

Then again, he might be huting more than Lo Duca.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 12:47 PM


"Sweep the Phils. Do you have a problem with that Mr. Randolph?"

Gwreck
May 25 2006 12:53 PM

Stat of the day: the Mets have never lost when Jeremi Gonzalez starts.

Ok, seriously now -- I think Nady is a better choice than Chavez because my guess is that the Mets will have to outhit the Phils to win today.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 12:56 PM

Gwreck wrote:
Stat of the day: the Mets have never lost when Jeremi Gonzalez starts.


And yet they've lost Pedro's last three outings. Maybe we're bumping the wrong guy from the rotation.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:02 PM

God Damn, based on the pre-game it sounds like todays word picture is going to be full of stick-figures.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 01:11 PM

As much as I hate Francesca, props for using the phrase "here to paint you the word picture."

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:12 PM

One down for Jeremiad.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:14 PM

Utley can really hit, can't he?

Diamond Dad
May 25 2006 01:15 PM
WFAN off the air

Of course, the WFAN feed is blacked out on the internet. Probably better not to have to listen to Dog call the plays.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:15 PM

And Gonzalez sucks.

A so-so home run call by Russo.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:15 PM

Abreu can hit better, can't he?

Diamond Dad
May 25 2006 01:16 PM
Holy carp!

In the time it took to post that last message . . .

(Jeremy should be packing his bags between innings)

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:16 PM

I will be happy when Jeremi Gonzalez is no longer on this team.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:17 PM

Centerfield wrote:
I will be happy when Jeremi Gonzalez is no longer on this team.


Right now I'm guessing - You'll sleep well tonight.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:17 PM

Ummm...

Diamond Dad
May 25 2006 01:18 PM
as the fans . .

So, as the fans settle into their seats here at big Shea . . .

It's already Phillies 3, Mets eventually coming to bat

SteveJRogers
May 25 2006 01:19 PM
Re: WFAN off the air

Diamond Dad wrote:
Of course, the WFAN feed is blacked out on the internet. Probably better not to have to listen to Dog call the plays.


Blacked out on MLB.com? That can't be good...

MFS62
May 25 2006 01:19 PM

I wonder what he feeds his gopher.

Later

SteveJRogers
May 25 2006 01:19 PM

Elster88 wrote:
And Gonzalez sucks.

A so-so home run call by Russo.


Probably saving the true homer call for the Met ones

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:20 PM

You know, Mike and the Dog are better than I thought they'd be.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:21 PM

Rockin' Doc
May 25 2006 01:22 PM

Reyes doubles to start the Mets comeback.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:22 PM

Reyes leadoff double. Let's get 'em back boys.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:22 PM

What the crap, Reyes? A double?

I thought you were fast.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:23 PM

Nice hose, Duke.

Three striaght blue-hat days. I can't remember the last time that has hap'd.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:24 PM

Russo: "Reyes is tied for the major league league in steals with Podesnick of the White Sox."

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:25 PM

Nice.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:28 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Nice hose, Duke.

Three striaght blue-hat days. I can't remember the last time that has hap'd.


Pins?

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:29 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Russo: "Reyes is tied for the major league league in steals with Podesnick of the White Sox."


You know they might not be half bad if Mad Dog didn't sound like a cat stuck in a gutter.

Rockin' Doc
May 25 2006 01:29 PM

Reyes leads off with a double and the Mets a pair of ground out to the left side of the infield. If they had hit behind the runner, we would likely have our first run of the game. Delgado walks so it falls to the red hot Wright to drive in the run.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:29 PM

Elster88 wrote:
="Centerfield"]Russo: "Reyes is tied for the major league league in steals with Podesnick of the White Sox."


You know they might not be half bad if Mad Dog didn't sound like a cat stuck in a gutter.


But he does.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:30 PM

Get mad, David!

Rockin' Doc
May 25 2006 01:30 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 25 2006 01:31 PM

Wright grounds out to end the inning. Reyes' lead-off double is wasted.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:30 PM

They leave an important run out there on base.

Gonzalez back out for the second. Fans in Picnic Area advised to take cover.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:31 PM

That doesn't sound mad.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:31 PM

]Pins?


Pins.

Here's a thought: David Bell is playing 40 feet of third on the Delgado shifft with two out. That'd put stealing thoughts in my head if I'm Willie Randolph.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:32 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
="Elster88"]
="Centerfield"]Russo: "Reyes is tied for the major league league in steals with Podesnick of the White Sox."


You know they might not be half bad if Mad Dog didn't sound like a cat stuck in a gutter.


But he does.


The point being that they at least (so far) have the ability to do get the words out.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:35 PM

Gonzalez with a 1-2-3 inning.

If only he could face the 7, 8 & 9 hitters EVERY inning . . .

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:35 PM

That's why Myers was pitching from the stretch.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:36 PM

That’s a hell of an endorsement. Hopefully this is a one time promotion.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:37 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
That’s a hell of an endorsement.

It wasn't meant to be a huge endorsement. I'm telling it like it is. Is that ok?


Hillbilly wrote:
Hopefully this is a one time promotion.


They could do it once a year for charity. Raise 30,000 a year for some group in Queens.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:38 PM

Cliff Floyd!

He's been pretty hot lately. Thank fucking God.

Let's get him in, Nady.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:39 PM

New York Mets are tough on Philly centerfielders.

DocTee
May 25 2006 01:39 PM

Blue hats in four straight (Glavine had pinstripes too, for his Sunday night start vs. MFY)-- UMDB must be getting some good headshots this week.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:39 PM

Single up the middle. Floyd had to wait to see if it got through. First and third, no out.

Let's go Kaz.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:39 PM

="Elster88"]
Hillbilly wrote:
That’s a hell of an endorsement.

It wasn't meant to be a huge endorsement. I'm telling it like it is. Is that ok?


Sure, but I think they suck. Which one are you related to?

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:39 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
New York Mets are tough on Philly centerfielders.


What happened? I'm GameChanneling it.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:40 PM

Hey Floyd, you ran the wrong way.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:41 PM

Focus, Kazuo. Let's get Floyd in!

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:41 PM

Awful at-bat by Matsui. Pathetic.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:42 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
Sure, but I think they suck. Which one are you related to?


You just said it's okay that I'm telling it like it is. So why do I have to be related to one of them? Because I'm saying they have the ability (if not the voices) to do a broadcast?

What day did you call their show and get hung up on?

Edit: I'm David Cone. I loved him back in the day. I'm proud to have his autograph.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:44 PM

Jose Reyes, power hitter.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:44 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 25 2006 01:47 PM

JOSE!!!!!!

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:44 PM

The Mets did so much wrong on that bunt.

That's when you can slide into first.

A Boy Named Seo
May 25 2006 01:44 PM

When Chris Russo gets excited, I don't know what the hell he's saying.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:44 PM

I ahve no idea what just happened wait they're going through it again. It was a sac bunt right?

SteveJRogers
May 25 2006 01:44 PM

REYES

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:44 PM

I heard that! Reyes goes deep tie game.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:44 PM

That was nice.

It was even a strike he hit.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:45 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
When Chris Russo gets excited, I don't know what the hell he's saying.


Yup. He definitely does not have the voice for it.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:45 PM

bleh.

Going into tonight's game, Kaz had a .494 OPS.

As recently as this off-season, I thought he was a replacement-level 2B at a minimum. Now, I wish we had someone competent in the minors so we could shit-can him and eat his salary.

Hernandez isn't competent, IMO, and given that Matsui's defense has improved, I'd rather have Matsui.

Holy shit.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:45 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
When Chris Russo gets excited, I don't know what the hell he's saying.


Please don't upset 88

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:45 PM

Lo Duca bunt base hit?!?!? Genius.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:45 PM

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:47 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on May 25 2006 01:48 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
="A Boy Named Seo"]When Chris Russo gets excited, I don't know what the hell he's saying.


Please don't upset 88


All I'm doing is critiquing their broadcast. You're the one who's getting upset because I'm giving half-compliments. If you take the time to read (and comprehend, which may be beyond your ability) before you post, you might actually see the post where I agree with this exact comment by ABNS.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 01:47 PM

New theme song idea: "Meet the Mets, bitches."

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:49 PM

Rotblatt wrote:
As recently as this off-season, I thought he was a replacement-level 2B at a minimum. Now, I wish we had someone competent in the minors so we could shit-can him and eat his salary.


As one of Matsui's strongest backers...I have to agree with you.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:50 PM

Elster88 wrote:
="Hillbilly"]
="A Boy Named Seo"]When Chris Russo gets excited, I don't know what the hell he's saying.


Please don't upset 88


All I'm doing is critiquing their broadcast. You're the one who's getting upset because I'm giving half-compliments. If you take the time to read (and comprehend, which may be beyond your ability) before you post, you might actually see the post where I agree with this exact comment by ABNS.


I'm not upset. I think having these two tools do the game is making harder for me to enjoy the game. But I am enjoying making fun of them.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:51 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
="Elster88"]
Hillbilly wrote:
="A Boy Named Seo"]When Chris Russo gets excited, I don't know what the hell he's saying.


Please don't upset 88


All I'm doing is critiquing their broadcast. You're the one who's getting upset because I'm giving half-compliments. If you take the time to read (and comprehend, which may be beyond your ability) before you post, you might actually see the post where I agree with this exact comment by ABNS.


I'm not upset. I think having these two tools do the game is making harder for me to enjoy the game. But I am enjoying making fun of them.


At the end of the day, whether they do a good or bad job with the broadcast, a convincing argument can be made that they are tools.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:51 PM

Over/Under for Gonzales to give the lead back: 8 minutes.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 01:53 PM

Funny, Willie's singing the same song about Matsui that he sang about Hernandez, essentially, "We're winning and the defense is there. He has to produce, but I'll be patient."

Kaz Matsui, blessed by the same reasoning that once damned him.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:54 PM

Ok for real, how much longer are they going to leave him in?

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 01:54 PM

I agree, pull him and try and win this game.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:55 PM

As much as some would like to believe that only the Mets wanted Kaz, there were other teams that wanted him to, and one former Met manager gave him a huge endorsement.

Maybe scouting ballplayers is completely a guessing game.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 01:56 PM

Heath Bell and El Duque are on their way. Everyone on the bullpen take an inning and give this team a chance.

Elster88
May 25 2006 01:57 PM

A ripped line drive to Kazuo, Vittorino doubled off second. Let's hope this keeps happening. Hit the shots at someone.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:00 PM

Utley stole second.

DON'T walk Burrell, Gonzalez. You'll just piss off Howard.

Elster88
May 25 2006 02:00 PM

As the founder of TORVO, I don't want to make a huge deal of this, but has Lo Duca thrown one would-be base stealer out this year? Two?

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:03 PM

Well, shit.

Nevermind. Howard flies out to end the inning.

MFS62
May 25 2006 02:04 PM

OK, all together now - exhale.
Later

A Boy Named Seo
May 25 2006 02:05 PM

Midget Mets?!? Who and what?

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:06 PM

Elster88 wrote:
As the founder of TORVO, I don't want to make a huge deal of this, but has Lo Duca thrown one would-be base stealer out this year? Two?


LoDuca's thrown out 20% of all would be stealers this year--that's 7 out of 35.

Piazza's thrown out 10%--4 of 40.

Ramon Hernandez leads the league with 56% CS--18 out of 32.

Elster88
May 25 2006 02:07 PM

Rotblatt wrote:
="Elster88"]As the founder of TORVO, I don't want to make a huge deal of this, but has Lo Duca thrown one would-be base stealer out this year? Two?


LoDuca's thrown out 20% of all would be stealers this year--that's 7 out of 35.


Not as bad as I thought. When the hell did he throw out 7 guys?

Elster88
May 25 2006 02:08 PM

Floyd a bullet...one hop to the fence...held to a single.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 02:08 PM

Cliff looks like he's out of that slump for good.

Johnny Dickshot
May 25 2006 02:09 PM

Russo -- not as terrible as I imagined he'd have been.

Francessa is worse, doing PBP. He botched the stolen base so badly I had no idea what happened.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:09 PM

Elster88 wrote:
Not as bad as I thought. When the hell did he throw out 7 guys?


Dunno. I can only remember 2 or 3 CS this year.

Hey, the guy's got a 10-game hitting streak going, though!

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:11 PM

And now Nady with a single! Runners at 1st & 2nd.

Come on, Matsui.

Elster88
May 25 2006 02:11 PM

Rotblatt wrote:
="Elster88"]Not as bad as I thought. When the hell did he throw out 7 guys?


Dunno. I can only remember 2 or 3 CS this year.

Hey, the guy's got a 10-game hitting streak going, though!


Jumping right into the Met tradition of catchers who can hit.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 02:12 PM

I was surprised too. Russo is better than Mike at play by play.

Cliff with a bonehead play getting picked off 2nd.

Elster88
May 25 2006 02:12 PM

Rotblatt wrote:
And now Nady with a single! Runners at 1st & 2nd.

Come on, Matsui.


Floyd picked off. Dammit. I thought we cleared Kaz for the next inning.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:13 PM

Yeesh. Floyd gets picked off at second--2-6.

Elster88
May 25 2006 02:13 PM

Centerfield wrote:
I was surprised too. Russo is better than Mike at play by play.


I thought Mike was improving as the inning went along....but then he was hard to understand on the pickoff too. He's not good when trying to get stuff out fast.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:15 PM

After 3 innings, your pitch counts stand at:

Gonzalez: 47 (32 Strikes)
Myers: 60 (40 Strikes)

If we keep this up, Myers will be out by the 6th.

Of course, if Gonzalez keeps this up, he'll be IN til the 7th, so it's kind of a catch-22.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 02:21 PM

Ok. We got 4 out of Gonzalez. Isn't that enough? How much do we want to push our luck? I say pinch-hit for him in this frame and let the bullpen take it from here.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 02:21 PM

Centerfield wrote:
I was surprised too. Russo is better than Mike at play by play.


But everytime Russo lets out a laugh, blood flows out of my ears.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 02:24 PM

Kaz not looking good.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:25 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Ok. We got 4 out of Gonzalez. Isn't that enough? How much do we want to push our luck? I say pinch-hit for him in this frame and let the bullpen take it from here.


I think Willie will try and stretch him out to 6 innings.

God help us all.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 02:28 PM

Jose: double, homer, single.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:28 PM

Reyes a triple away from the cycle.

holychicken
May 25 2006 02:29 PM

As much as gonzalez scares the hell out of me, you gotta leave him in as long as humanly possible because 16 inning marathon on tuesday.

Elster88
May 25 2006 02:32 PM

Mike dropped a new one on me. Vittorino is apparently "The Flying Hawaiian". Not a bad nickname.

Johnny Dickshot
May 25 2006 02:33 PM

Looks as if this'll be Jeremi's challenge frame.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 02:36 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
Looks as if this'll be Jeremi's challenge frame.


I think Bell is getting loose. 2 on base

Centerfield
May 25 2006 02:38 PM

How is Feliciano not ready to face Howard. This is a bad job by Willie.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:41 PM

. . . except it works out, as Howard grounds out to Delgado.

metirish
May 25 2006 02:43 PM

Relax people, Willie knows what he's doing....

Willets Point
May 25 2006 02:43 PM

I don't smoke and I don't want to see that commercial with the aorta ever again.

vtmet
May 25 2006 02:44 PM

metirish wrote:
Relax people, Willie knows what he's doing....


what hallucinagen did you take?

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:45 PM

. . . and exhale.

Rollins pops up to shallow left.

Gonzalez at only 83 pitches and will have the bottom of the order coming up next. He's been moderatly productive & efficient--at least pitch count wise.

By any measure OTHER than runs allowed, he's been atrocious, though:

5 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 0 K, 2 HR

holychicken
May 25 2006 02:46 PM

Bend, don't break, baby!

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 02:48 PM

Hey, 5 innings 3 or less runs. That's a quality start by definition, no?

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:48 PM

Hey, Gonzalez's ERA has dipped below Lima's! 8.31 v. 8.73

(knock on wood)

Centerfield
May 25 2006 02:49 PM

Well, more accurately, bend, don't break again.

metirish
May 25 2006 02:49 PM

]Hey, 5 innings 3 or less runs. That's a quality start by definition, no?


It's 6 innings with 3 runs or less....I think

Elster88
May 25 2006 02:50 PM

6 IP, I think.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:51 PM

Wright having a bad day--0-3 with 2 K's and a ground out.

metirish
May 25 2006 02:52 PM

Someone needs to throw a french fry in his face...get him all mad and shit...

Centerfield
May 25 2006 02:54 PM

Gonzalez back out for the 6th.

Myers at 100 pitches.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:55 PM

Cliff strikes out, but Myers is at 101 pitches and his spot is due up this inning.

Give us one more inning, Gonzalez.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:56 PM

metirish wrote:
Someone needs to throw a french fry in his face...get him all mad and shit...


hah! That was a good one.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 02:57 PM

Gonzalez throws a french fry in the face of over-reactive CF and breezes through the 6th.

Johnny Dickshot
May 25 2006 02:58 PM

Quality Start, bitches.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 02:59 PM

Huh. Myers staying in.

And Gonzalez strikes em out! 1-2-3 for Gonzalez.

Only 90 pitches. If Nady or Matsui get aboard, Willie might give Gonzalez a shot at the 7th . . .

metirish
May 25 2006 03:01 PM

Obviously the trade for El Duque has lit a fire in the arse of Gonzo...Omar you are a genius.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 03:02 PM

Feliciano coming in to face the top of the lineup. 7th inning is usually Heilman time no? Or Sanchez?

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:03 PM

Dammit, "real" work got in the way, just rejoining. After an inning, sounds like Russo's really not that bad on PBP.

Looks like a much more reasonable outing from Gonzalez. Bullpen time.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:04 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Feliciano coming in to face the top of the lineup. 7th inning is usually Heilman time no? Or Sanchez?


I think's because of Utley and Abreu. If he doesn't go 1-2-3 I'd imagine someone else (Bradford?) to face Burrell.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:04 PM

]Feliciano coming in to face the top of the lineup. 7th inning is usually Heilman time no? Or Sanchez?


Usually Heilman with a lead. We might see Heilman if Burrell gets to bat in this inning.

MFS62
May 25 2006 03:05 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Feliciano coming in to face the top of the lineup. 7th inning is usually Heilman time no? Or Sanchez?

He's going lefty against the guys due up.
Heilman may not be available today. How many games in a row can he pitch, especially since some of them were more than one inning?

Later

Centerfield
May 25 2006 03:06 PM

Feliciano walks the Flying Hawaiian.

Willets Point
May 25 2006 03:07 PM

I think Gonzalez could have walked the leadoff hitter just as well.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:07 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Feliciano walks the Flying Hawaiian.


Ugh. That's just terrible.

Please tell me we've got someone warming up in the bullpen . . .

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 03:08 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
Quality Start, bitches.


Yup (as most of you knew), He needed to get through the 6th - I looked it up.

Elster88
May 25 2006 03:08 PM

Is Myers really the Phillies' ace?

Centerfield
May 25 2006 03:09 PM

Well that sucked.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:10 PM

Well, shit.

Bring in Heilman, Willie.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:13 PM

Big K of Abreu. Walk Burrell to set up the DP?

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:13 PM

. . . or leave Feliciano in there to strike out Abreu.

That works too.

Okay, so now what? Howard's struggled (relatively) against lefties. Do we walk Burrell here and leave Feliciano in to face Howard?

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 03:13 PM

Eight days a week you walk Burrell here.

ScarletKnight41
May 25 2006 03:13 PM

The thick-legged Heath Bell is coming in to pitch to Burrell.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:14 PM

Gwreck wrote:
Big K of Abreu. Walk Burrell to set up the DP?


Get out of my head, dude.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:15 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote:
The thick-legged Heath Bell is coming in to pitch to Burrell.


Huh. I like Bell, but it seems like this is a situation where we're setting him up to fail.

Even if he gets Burrell out, are we going to leave him in there to face Howard?

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 03:15 PM

They're going to Bell. I guess it's the ninth day.

Elster88
May 25 2006 03:16 PM

Bell lives in Port St. Lucie and skateboarded to spring training every day?

Centerfield
May 25 2006 03:16 PM

What an odd decision. Do you leave Bell in to face Howard afterwards?

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:17 PM

I did not know that Heath Bell skateboarded to spring training each day.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 03:18 PM

Burrell walks. So now instead of having Feliciano to face Howard, we have Bell.

And Howard promptly singles.

Fuck.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:19 PM

Not that it necessarily would've changed things but this result is making me angry with the current strategizing. Thankfully we have the nice DP to end it.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:20 PM

Willie is fucking retarded.

These moves make no sense whatsoever.

Bell gets Rollins to GIDP, but now we're down by 2.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:21 PM

They got 40,000+ for a weekday afternoon game? Damn.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:22 PM

Just get on base here, Jose.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:22 PM

We're gonna need to rally to get him the chance for the cycle.

MFS62
May 25 2006 03:25 PM

Gwreck wrote:
They got 40,000+ for a weekday afternoon game? Damn.


They all came to get a glimpse of Massive Mike and the Cretinous Canine.

SC= 97

Later

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:27 PM

Goddamnit.

Beltran strikes out for the second time today to end the inning. Myers at 119 pitches.

Go get 'em, Bell.

MFS62
May 25 2006 03:30 PM

If they bring in Cormier and he gets his third career save against the Mets, VS 0-30 in save opportunities against all other teams combined, I'm gonna' have a stroke.

(you might never see me) Later

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:31 PM

Oh, for the love of christ, could we try NOT walking the leadoff batter?

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 03:37 PM

Overall, a strong 8th by Bell.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 03:38 PM

Good job by Bell to work around it.

6 run bottom of the 8th coming up here for us.

Come on you Mets.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:38 PM

Big bats coming up. Rally time!

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:38 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
Overall, a strong 8th by Bell.


Agreed. Ruiz sacrifices, Dellucci strikes out & Victorino grounds out to first.

Time for Delgado, Wright & Cliff to get us back in this.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 03:43 PM

Time for Wright, Floyd and Nady to get us back in this.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 03:44 PM

Centerfield
May 25 2006 03:44 PM

Time for Floyd, Nady and Matsui to get us back in this.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 03:48 PM

walks kill

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:49 PM

Floyd on with the tying run and the Phillies go to Gordon.

Pinch-hit for Matsui?

Willets Point
May 25 2006 03:49 PM

Nady bats first.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:51 PM

Nady walks. I would pinch-hit here.

Elster88
May 25 2006 03:52 PM

Let Kaz hit. This game is not THAT important. Let him swing.

Francessa thinks Kaz hasn't had an extra base hit in a month. 'Course, he hit a double Tuesday.

vtmet
May 25 2006 03:52 PM

Gwreck wrote:
Floyd on with the tying run and the Phillies go to Gordon.

Pinch-hit for Matsui?


If Matsui makes one more out, he'll be down to batting .160 at Shea this season...

Willets Point
May 25 2006 03:52 PM

Nah ganna happen.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 03:52 PM

Fucking Matsui.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:52 PM

me too.

Willie doesn't.

Willets Point
May 25 2006 03:53 PM

Piss.

Johnny Dickshot
May 25 2006 03:53 PM

Nerts

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:53 PM

Elster88 wrote:
Let Kaz hit. This game is not THAT important. Let him swing.


??

I think it's pretty important.

It might not be a huge upgrade to have Franco bat but it's still something, and not a problem to put Woodward in for the rest of the game.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 03:54 PM

Well, shit.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 03:54 PM

Matsui is going lose his job. AH was tearing up AAA. Anybody know if he's still hot?

Johnny Dickshot
May 25 2006 03:54 PM

Kazoo has an awful lotta guys on base recently.

Elster88
May 25 2006 03:55 PM

Gwreck wrote:
="Elster88"]Let Kaz hit. This game is not THAT important. Let him swing.


??

I think it's pretty important.


It's not. We already took two. And it wasn't a Glavine or Pedro start, which we want to win 99% of.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 03:57 PM

The reason we want to win Pedro/Glavine games is because they usually are good efforts from our starting pitchers. Got a good effort from our starter today too. Sure, 2 of 3 is fine but a sweep can't be undervalued, especially going into a series which we should also sweep.

Elster88
May 25 2006 04:00 PM

Gwreck wrote:
The reason we want to win Pedro/Glavine games is because they usually are good efforts from our starting pitchers.

I realize.

Gwreck wrote:
Got a good effort from our starter today too.

Irrelevant to my point.

Gwreck wrote:
Sure, 2 of 3 is fine but a sweep can't be undervalued, especially going into a series which we should also sweep.


Not undervaluing it, and my point stands...it's not a huge game. Let Kaz get his swings there...show you trust him (even if you don't). When he's hitting .200 in July, we can pinch hit for him in the late innings of a close game against the Phillies. Actually if he's hitting .200 in July we should give someone else a look. But not Andy-Handy.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 04:04 PM

Orlando Hernandez announced as Sunday's starting pitcher.

Gwreck
May 25 2006 04:04 PM

Orlando Hernandez announced as Sunday's starting pitcher.

Frayed Knot
May 25 2006 04:05 PM

I think it's about time we remind Gordon that he's old and not very good



- 4 pitch walk to Endy

vtmet
May 25 2006 04:05 PM

AH is batting .314 with a .364 OBP for the Tides...he's dropped off a bit in the past week, but in a lineup that he's the only guy hitting .300 probably doesn't help...Milledge has been slumping and just recently is starting to hit again...

but, AH batting .160 at Shea vs Kaz batting .160 at Shea is a little different...AH might eventually start hitting at the MLB level and his defense helps some of these pitchers out...Kaz doesn't look like he'll ever figure out how to hit at Shea and while his defense has improved, it will never match AH's....

A Boy Named Seo
May 25 2006 04:10 PM

Beltran w/ no batting gloves. That looks new to me.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 04:11 PM

2 of 3 ain't bad. Bigger win for Phils than loss for the Mets.

Elster88
May 25 2006 04:11 PM

Great job by Heath Bell today, despite allowing the inherited runner to score.

Rotblatt
May 25 2006 04:11 PM

Shit. I smelled blood in the water and wanted a sweep.

Ah, well.

Willets Point
May 25 2006 04:11 PM

Caca!

Johnny Dickshot
May 25 2006 04:12 PM

3-4-5: 0-11, 6 Ks

Elster88
May 25 2006 04:12 PM

Official attendance: 51,365.

Centerfield
May 25 2006 04:26 PM

2 of 3 from the Yanks and Phils. I was hoping for more, but I will take that. I'm looking forward to frying some fish this weekend.

Elster88
May 25 2006 04:28 PM

Centerfield wrote:
2 of 3 from the Yanks and Phils. I was hoping for more, but I will take that. I'm looking forward to frying some fish this weekend.


One Wagner meltdown from 5-1. I'll take it as an overall team performance every time.

Hillbilly
May 25 2006 04:42 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
="Centerfield"]I will be happy when Jeremi Gonzalez is no longer on this team.


Right now I'm guessing - You'll sleep well tonight.


Sleep tight CF, he's now a Tide. I think that's the end of him.

Edgy DC
May 25 2006 04:46 PM

]but, AH batting .160 at Shea vs Kaz batting .160 at Shea is a little different...AH might eventually start hitting at the MLB level and his defense helps some of these pitchers out...Kaz doesn't look like he'll ever figure out how to hit at Shea and while his defense has improved, it will never match AH's....


I understand the desire to move on, certainly, but there's a lot of stuff here that doesn't hold up. To start with, Kaz has an .863 zone rating to Hernandez's .767. (Kaz doesn't have enough innings to qualify but if he did and maintained that rate, he would be second in the National League.)

Bring Hernandez up and give him some time, sure, but we're still going largely on wishes.

Again, it's Kaz's approach that maddens me. He seems to deliberately want to top everything, as if he's going to get astroturf singles by bouncing balls over the pitcher's head. Just swing baby. You're an eighth-place hitter with no responsibility to go moving runners over or anything. Whack it. Whack the shit out of it.

Zvon
May 25 2006 11:53 PM

Two points upon seeing the game-

(im not meaning to trash Willie, just talkin baseball here).

The move in the 7th- Bringing Bell in to pitch to Burrell.
Now I know that Willie didnt put Bell in there to walk him, or even pitch around him in that situation.
But he walks him and then has to face the lefty Howard, who singles in an insurance run for the Phils.

I would have just had Feliciano, who just had K'd Abreu, walk Burrell
(intentionally or by pitching around him) and stay in to face Howard.
Not a big deal, and could have been played either way.
The former just seemed the most logical, with the way Burrell hits the Mets.

Up side- Bell did get some work in and does have to get in the groove.
He pitched well after that.

More upsetting to see was Utley's 7th inning double and extra base (he went to third on the throw home).
That was the go ahead run for the Phils.
I saw a view from behind/left of the plate on the replay.
Utley whips a liner to the wall, not quite down the line but into far right.
The view showed all of right field even before the ball is struck, and Nady is nowhere to be seen.
Where the hell was he playin?
This is hot hitting Utley up with a speedy Victorino on first.
You give him the right field corner?
Even playing a normal right field Nady would have retrieved that ball with time for a sure play at the plate.

Im not blaming Nady- Im not blaming Willie.
Im just posting my observations and blowing off steam.

A sweep here would have been nice.
I read we havent swept the Phils since '97.