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Bob Raissman on Mets and Milledge
Yancy Street Gang Jun 02 2006 08:43 AM |
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From the Daily News:
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metirish Jun 02 2006 08:54 AM |
Very lame that the team was considering suing for libel.I wonder will Raissman get invited back as a guest on "Daily News Live" after this article.
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 08:58 AM |
I've read that thing twice now and I have no idea what Raissman is talking about. Moving on...
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holychicken Jun 02 2006 09:01 AM |
The article seems to say a whole lot of nothing. Vague accusations supported with very few facts.
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soupcan Jun 02 2006 09:13 AM |
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Agreed. I'll tell you what pissed me off though was the Daily News article the other day (Bill Madden?) that rehashed Milledge's 'molestation' issues. It's old news is it not? Didn't he do whatever he was instructed to do be it probation or community service? When he was 16-17 years old he did something bad, was punished for it (in more ways than one if you can't the lost income due to the drop in his draft position) and paid his debt to society. I understand why it was rehashed - to sell papers - but its a years-old story that we all knew about. As far as we know he's kept it in his pants since. So the kid slid into a base spikes high. Oooooh, he must be a bad guy. I'm glad he spiked Schuerholzes kid. Fuck the Braves. These reporters have such a jones for pulling back the curtains that they take things that are simply irrelevant and make it news. If there's a story, great, I'll read it but there's nothing here except a young flashy, cocky kid. That's all the story is. Daily News - Let. It. Go.
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Edgy DC Jun 02 2006 09:34 AM |
I like how
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Frayed Knot Jun 02 2006 09:39 AM |
I don't get Raissman's point either.
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Edgy DC Jun 02 2006 09:54 AM |
Adam Rubin of his paper was the only one in New York who reported on the spiking a few days after it happened: Top prospect Lastings Milledge is quickly becoming the most unpopular player in the International League. Milledge (.277, three homers, eight steals) instigated a bench-clearing incident Sunday at Triple-A Norfolk with a spikes-up slide that made a four-inch tear in the upper thigh portion of Jonathan Schuerholz's pants. The Richmond third baseman is the son of Braves GM John Schuerholz.Not much there. Here's the Norfolk Pilot story. The incident is buried. There were no ejections and Schuerholz appears to have stayed in the game. Richmond Times-Dispatch appears to have ignored the incident.
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 09:57 AM |
Please. Of course they covered it up. The Mets control all the newspapers in each area where they have a farm team. In fact, that one paper that did report it probably got sued for libel.
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cleonjones11 Jun 02 2006 10:02 AM |
Anybody think Milledge is being showcased for a big starting pitcher. Trachsel looks sick..It's funny in the Mets scorecard there is a big picture of Milledge in all his glory..the caption could read "Yes, I know who I am"
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Hillbilly Jun 02 2006 10:08 AM |
I’m a better writer than Raissman. I make my point clear, watch:
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Centerfield Jun 02 2006 10:14 AM |
Not Bob's best work. But it looks like he got rid of that ridiculous moustache. Go Bob.
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ScarletKnight41 Jun 02 2006 10:14 AM |
cleon - did you see your birthday thread in the Nonbaseball Forum?
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old original jb Jun 02 2006 11:00 AM |
How the Mets can make Raissman happy and avoid charges of "pom-pomitis"
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Edgy DC Jun 02 2006 11:07 AM |
Being that he's in line to replace Cliff, that's a little unseemly.
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 11:13 AM |
Delgado does have a shiny head.
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Willets Point Jun 02 2006 11:17 AM |
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But NOT during a game or we'll have a Rey Sanchez scandal on top of it all.
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 11:18 AM |
Does Young David still carry Cornelius' bags?
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soupcan Jun 02 2006 11:25 AM |
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 11:35 AM |
Nice article...but the comparisons to Bonds are totally unnecessary. I know that San Francisco is coming to town and that putting an "I hate Bonds" spin helps add words to your article, but ENOUGH ALREADY. I DON'T NEED TO READ ANYMORE ABOUT HIM.
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Edgy DC Jun 02 2006 11:40 AM |
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David can call me also.
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Centerfield Jun 02 2006 11:42 AM |
Cliff Floyd rocks. Why is it a foregone conclusion that he is gone next year? Despite the emergence of Nady, he still hasn't done it over the course of a full year...and given the choice, I'd much rather keep Floyd and trade Nady. I realize Floyd is the more expensive choice, but we play in NY don't we? And we have a new TV network.
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soupcan Jun 02 2006 11:43 AM |
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I posted it more because of the Floyd/Milledge angle toward the end.
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 11:45 AM |
Gotta keep Nady until we find a long-term replacement. But I wouldn't mind having Floyd around too. In 2007, provided he hits, start Milledge in right and keep Nady as a Heepish bench player until Floyd breaks down. Then, when Floyd moves on, decide if Nady should be replaced or move into the starting job.
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Yancy Street Gang Jun 02 2006 11:52 AM |
If Nady's considered a part of the future, and that seems to be what they're thinking, then you can't really sideline him in 2007 for more Cliff Floyd, who's six years older and much more expensive.
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 11:59 AM |
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No doubt, no doubt. It's just irks me that I can't even read a Cliff Floyd Puff Piece without seeing Bonds. Edit: How do you do the trademark logo?
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soupcan Jun 02 2006 12:06 PM |
Right click the logo, select 'properties', copy the URL address, paste it into your post as an 'img'.
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 12:19 PM |
I didn't realize it was an image. The little TM that I've seen people use. Thanks.
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Edgy DC Jun 02 2006 12:20 PM |
Nothing is a foregone conclusion, but the Mets control Nady next year, but not Floyd.
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soupcan Jun 02 2006 12:20 PM |
I misunderstood your question. Sorry.
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 12:22 PM |
My guess is that someone, possibly George, will make Floyd an offer that the Mets would be crazy to match considering that others like Milledge can step in.
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PatchyFogg Jun 02 2006 12:22 PM |
Adam told us ( The interview is up, by the way. I'll be posting more stuff on it later.) that he got major flack from the Mets behind the scenes for that and that Raissman was doing that story on it.
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Gwreck Jun 02 2006 01:43 PM |
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This was the first I heard that Bradford and Feliciano were friends. That's cool.
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MFS62 Jun 02 2006 01:52 PM |
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Yeah, and Clemente "irritated the oposition with his flamboyance" with his one handed snatch/catch style. And Willie Mays did the same with his basket catches. I'm sure Mets fans would be more than thrilled if Lastings continued to "irritate the opposition" for the next, say, 15 years? Later
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vtmet Jun 02 2006 02:31 PM |
I wonder if the '86 Mets annoyed any players, managers, coaches, owners, media in any other city as well...usually it's a sign that you have talent...
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Elster88 Jun 02 2006 02:34 PM |
Or just a sign that you're a dickhead.
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Yancy Street Gang Jun 06 2006 09:31 AM |
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This guy does seem to have an agenda:
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Elster88 Jun 06 2006 09:35 AM |
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It cracks me up when people want to read into silence. Keith didn't say anything, but somehow Raissman immediately draws two possible conclusions.
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MFS62 Jun 06 2006 09:47 AM |
I didn't know Raismann was capable of the Vulcan mind meld.
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Johnny Dickshot Jun 06 2006 09:57 AM |
Not for nothing but the so-called “agenda” of Raissman and Madden derided here just might have something to it.
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Edgy DC Jun 06 2006 09:59 AM |
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If you've got something to dish, dish. I'm all eyes and open mind here.
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2006 10:00 AM |
Covering the media's coverage is Raissman's beat so he's got every right to keep on this story, especially as it was a major topic of conversation yesterday - including nationally.
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Elster88 Jun 06 2006 10:03 AM |
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Yeah, but the way I read it, Raissman is using it solely to say that SNY and the FAN tend to be "gooey", "gaga", and "gushing", which to me is pushing his agenda that the Mets refuse to let their broadcasters say anything bad about their team. Only Ed Coleman provided the "voice of reason". If his core message is only that Milledge could benefit from veteran leadership, why go into the three G's of gooey/gaga/gushing? Why bring up the broadcast booths at all?
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Elster88 Jun 06 2006 10:06 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 06 2006 10:06 AM |
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I didn't get to FK's post until after I posted.
I didn't realize this was his area of expertise. I guess you answered the last question in my post right above yours ("Why bring up the broadcast booths?")
This is what I was saying too. Ed Coleman, if no one else, proved that the Mets are not forcing their broadcast teams to use kid gloves on the new guy.
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MFS62 Jun 06 2006 10:06 AM |
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JD, the best answer I can give to that is a definite maybe. We really don't know much about how he acted in the minors. And maybe that's because of the muzzle that the author spoke about. Later
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seawolf17 Jun 06 2006 10:18 AM |
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Exactly. Maybe he just had a mouthful of lemonade, jerkass.
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