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BLC: Allman Brothers Band vs Santana

Lundy Jun 01 2006 01:29 PM

Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East) Midnight Rider Melissa Jessica One Way Out Blue Sky Revival Ramblin' Man Whipping Post In Memory of Elizabeth Reed

Edgy DC Jun 01 2006 01:47 PM

Good matchup.

sharpie Jun 01 2006 01:58 PM

Good list, Lundy.

cooby Jun 01 2006 07:55 PM

You rat, I love the Allman Brothers! But let's go... 1 Evil Ways 2 Samba Pa Ti 3 Black Magic Woman 4 Oye Como Va 5 Hope You're Feeling Better 6 She's Not There 7 Jingo 8 Stormy 9 Se A Cabo 10 Everything's Coming Our Way

Elster88 Jun 01 2006 07:56 PM

I thought Ludacris came up with the concept of Hotlanta.

Edgy DC Jun 01 2006 08:55 PM

vs. "Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East)" vs. "Evil Ways" "Midnight Rider" vs. "Samba Pa Ti" "Melissa" vs. "Black Magic Woman" "Jessica" vs. "Oye Como Va" "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" "Blue Sky" vs. "She's Not There" "Revival" vs. "Jingo" "Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" "Whipping Post" vs. "Se A Cabo" "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" vs. "Everything's Coming Our Way" Interesting Fact About the Allman Brothers: Early bands featuring Greg and Duan Allman included The Escorts, Allman Joys, and Hour Glass. After two Hour Glass albums failed, they realized that you can't not make great southern music if you back yourself with guys named Dickey Betts, Butch Trucks, and Berry Oakley. Interesting Fact About Santana: Many bands grow their rhythm section as they get older, as their sound gets more sophisticated, their budget bigger, and their drummer less agile. Santana had that scene going on right from the beginning, with their debut album featuring a guitarist, a bassist, a singer/keyboardist, a drummer, and two percussionists. Drummer Michael Shrieve was 20 and Carlos Santana 22 when they played Woodstock.

Edgy DC Jun 01 2006 09:00 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 02 2006 09:56 AM

I'm going to like this, because they're two bands that were largely contemporaries, and both were blues bands that drew from exotic sources to become much much more, and I guess both were bands I associate with lots and lots of weed. So it's a pretty pure matchup. They probably both have members that married Cher at one time or another. On the other hand, it's pretty unambitious to make one's intitial challenge against the 50th out of 51 bands, isn't it?

cooby Jun 01 2006 09:06 PM

Ah, but Santana is so much more than a #50 band...

Edgy DC Jun 01 2006 09:09 PM

Agreed, they're only down there because they went after a top-fiver on their first throw. Which is why the Allmans could have more easily gotten past Santana by challenging some stooge act ten or fifteen slots over Santana's heads. Which of course would mean one of my bands, so I'll shut up now.

cooby Jun 01 2006 09:17 PM

Actually, Carlos and I entertained thoughts of taking on Paul and the boys, kinda going for broke. But he whispered "Bruce" in my ear one too many times. We're both still stunned.

Willets Point Jun 01 2006 09:20 PM

Tsk tsk...Petty & the Heartbreakers are a soft touch for BLC entry. :)

Edgy DC Jun 01 2006 09:26 PM

The Heartbreakers have been heating up.

sharpie Jun 02 2006 09:20 AM

"Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East)" vs. "Evil Ways" SANTANA. Where's "Statesboro Blues" when you need it? "Midnight Rider" vs. "Samba Pa Ti" SANTANA. Like both of these but that achingly beautiful guitar solo wins it. "Melissa" vs. "Black Magic Woman" SANTANA "Jessica" vs. "Oye Como Va" SANTANA "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" SANTANA "Blue Sky" vs. "She's Not There" ALLMANS "Revival" vs. "Jingo" ALLMANS "Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" tie. SANTANA. Dickie Betts should shut up and play his guitar. "Whipping Post" vs. "Se A Cabo" ALLMANS "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" vs. "Everything's Coming Our Way" ALLMANS. Good matchup, like both of these. SANTANA 6 ALLMAN BROS. 4

Edgy DC Jun 02 2006 09:40 AM

]"Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" tie. SANTANA. Which is it? A tie or a win for St. Anne?

sharpie Jun 02 2006 09:43 AM

Oops. I originally had it as a tie and then changed it to a slight edge for Santana. I don't like either of these options very much but I do understand that Ramblin' Man has to be in there for the Allmans.

cooby Jun 02 2006 08:21 PM

Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East)" vs. "Evil Ways" SANTANA. "Midnight Rider" vs. "Samba Pa Ti" SANTANA. "Melissa" vs. "Black Magic Woman" SANTANA Melissa was okay until that stupid phone ad used it. "Jessica" vs. "Oye Como Va" ALLMAN BROS. Beautiful song. "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" SANTANA "Blue Sky" vs. "She's Not There" SANTANA "Revival" vs. "Jingo" ALLMAN BROS. "Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" tie. ALLMAN BROS "Whipping Post" vs. "Se A Cabo" SANTANA "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" vs. "Everything's Coming Our Way" SANTANA My second favorite Santana song AB's 3 Santana 7

RealityChuck Jun 02 2006 10:23 PM

Great matchup: "Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East)" vs. "Evil Ways" -- ABB, since it uses more than two chords. "Midnight Rider" vs. "Samba Pa Ti" -- ABB "Melissa" vs. "Black Magic Woman" -- Santana "Jessica" vs. "Oye Como Va" -- Santana against the ABB's worst song. "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" -- ABB "Blue Sky" vs. "She's Not There" -- tie "Revival" vs. "Jingo" -- tie "Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" -- tie "Whipping Post" vs. "Se A Cabo" -- ABB "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" vs. "Everything's Coming Our Way" -- ABB's best wins that one. 6.5-3.5 ABB. ABB has the edge due to songs with Duane.

soupcan Jun 02 2006 11:36 PM

"Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East)" vs. "Evil Ways" SANTANA "Midnight Rider" vs. "Samba Pa Ti" ALLMAN BROTHERS "Melissa" vs. "Black Magic Woman" TIE "Jessica" vs. "Oye Como Va" SANTANA "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" ALLMAN BROTHERS "Blue Sky" vs. "She's Not There" SANTANA "Revival" vs. "Jingo" SANTANA "Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" ALLMAN BROTHERS "Whipping Post" vs. "Se A Cabo" SANTANA "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" vs. "Everything's Coming Our Way" SANTANA SANTANA - 6.5 / ALLMAN BROTHERS - 3.5

Edgy DC Jun 05 2006 08:07 AM

Gotta vote on this today.

Lundy Jun 05 2006 09:22 AM

"Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East)" vs. "Evil Ways" Allman Brothers "Midnight Rider" vs. "Samba Pa Ti" Santana "Melissa" vs. "Black Magic Woman" Allman Brothers "Jessica" vs. "Oye Como Va" Allman Brothers "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" Allman Brothers "Blue Sky" vs. "She's Not There" Santana "Revival" vs. "Jingo" Allman Brothers "Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" Santana "Whipping Post" vs. "Se A Cabo" Allman Brothers "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" vs. "Everything's Coming Our Way" Allman Brothers Allman Brothers 7, Santana 3

Johnny Dickshot Jun 05 2006 11:50 AM

Not enthusiastic about either group here. I know they’re good and all but neither serves my cuppa tea. Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East)" vs. "Evil Ways" --Long jammy blues numbers: I just never got into ‘em. Santana. "Midnight Rider" vs. "Samba Pa Ti" --Brothers "Melissa" vs. "Black Magic Woman" --Santana. Like the tension "Jessica" vs. "Oye Como Va" --The piano solo is great fun. Allmans. "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" --Allmans. "Blue Sky" vs. "She's Not There" -- Tie, I guess "Revival" vs. "Jingo" -- Santana "Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" -- Easy win for the Brothers "Whipping Post" vs. "Se A Cabo" --Tie "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" vs. "Everything's Coming Our Way" --Eh. Allmans. Allman Bros. 6, Santana 4

sharpie Jun 05 2006 03:35 PM

Only three-and-a-half hours left. Come on, people, you know these songs.

Edgy DC Jun 05 2006 04:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 05 2006 07:39 PM

Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East)" vs. "Evil Ways" Long slow blues, eh. Grab my booty or get out of my way. Santana. "Midnight Rider" vs. "Samba Pa Ti" “And the roooooad goes on forever.” That line sums up rock from 1971-1977. I guess that’s a good a tie-breaker for these two closely-matched groovy little songs. Allman Brothers. "Melissa" vs. "Black Magic Woman" Delicate slide guitar and original composer status throws another close one to the Allman Brothers. "Jessica" vs. "Oye Como Va" Santana. wins by virtue of better lyrics. "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" Two American bands sounding British. The first sounds like a Cream B-side. The second sounds like a Cream A-side. That doesn’t make either better. Tie. "Blue Sky" vs. "She's Not There" I’ll go Allman Brothers here. “Turn your love my way,” is another pretty iconic seventies lyric. "Revival" vs. "Jingo" Both keyboardy songs. Revival is too acidic. I’ll go with the proto Latin dicsotequa sound of Santana here, but neither move me. "Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" “RM” is played out, but “Stormy” is just too Sade for my taste, it builds toward a climax it doesn’t provide. Allman Brothers. "Whipping Post" vs. "Se A Cabo" Passionate 6/8 blues of “WP” loses out here to a pretty fantastic start/stop/stab retreat solo by Carlos. Santananana. "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" vs. "Everything's Coming Our Way" Dueling guitar heroes here. “Everything” is, well, everything. It’s Santana’s greatest hits in a single track. Which squeezes this one out for Santana, 5.5-4.5.

RealityChuck Jun 05 2006 07:08 PM

Edgy DC wrote: "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" Two American bands sounding British. The first sounds like a Cream B-side. Yes, since we all know that Cream invented the blues. Elmore James and Sonny Boy Williamson just ripped them off.

Edgy DC Jun 05 2006 07:38 PM

Do you think that's what I mean?

Edgy DC Jun 05 2006 07:53 PM

I play a riff and ask Ms. Edgy, "Who do you think this band is?" "I don't know them." "Who do you think they are?" "I don't know. Some sixties band. British?"

Rockin' Doc Jun 05 2006 08:15 PM

I'm not sure if this contest is still open, but I'll cast my vote just in case. "Hot 'Lanta (live at Fillmore East)" vs. "Evil Ways" - SANTANA "Midnight Rider" vs. "Samba Pa Ti" - Tie "Melissa" vs. "Black Magic Woman" - SANTANA "Jessica" vs. "Oye Como Va" - SANTANA "One Way Out" vs. "Hope You're Feeling Better" - ALLMAN BROTHERS "Blue Sky" vs. "She's Not There" - SANTANA "Revival" vs. "Jingo" - ALLMAN BROTHERS "Ramblin' Man" vs. "Stormy" - ALLMAN BROTHERS "Whipping Post" vs. "Se A Cabo" - SANTANA "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" vs. "Everything's Coming Our Way" - ALLMAN BROTHERS Santana wins by a close 5.5 - 4.5 margin.

Edgy DC Jun 05 2006 08:41 PM

Feel free to check my math here. Voter The Allman Brothers Band Santana Sharpie 4 6 Reality Chuck 6.5 3.5 soupcan 3.5 6.5 Lundy 7 3 Johnny Dickshot 6 4 Edgy DC 4.5 5.5 Rockin' Doc 4.5 5.5 Total 36 34

cooby Jun 05 2006 09:15 PM

Excuse me, but I think you should count my votes

Edgy DC Jun 05 2006 09:32 PM

Excuse me! Begging your pardon, I really stink at harvesting votes! If I didn't miss others, Coo's vote turns this into a 41-39 victoire for Santana. Sorry about that.

sharpie Jun 06 2006 09:03 AM

Edgy, you're fired as a vote counter.

Edgy DC Jun 06 2006 10:20 AM

I'll go quietly.