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Gwreck
Jun 06 2006 03:54 PM

Update #`1 Released May 30
Update #2 Released June 5

Catcher
Update # LoDuca Piazza Difference
1 273,054 264,787 +8,267
2 411,131 367,161 +43,970

First Base
Update # Pujols Delgado Difference
1 726,854 220,484 -506,370
2 1,041,466 304,287 -737,189

Third Base
Update # Rolen Wright Difference
1 340,733 292,335 -48,398
2 471,826 434,519 -37,307

Shortstop
Update # Eckstein Reyes Difference
1 284,547 221,335 -63,212
2 396,464 324,863 -71,601

Outfield
Update # Beltran 4th Place Difference
1 341,769 326,592 +15,177
2 499,693 444,094 +55,599

Yancy Street Gang
Jun 06 2006 03:57 PM

Most surprising is Lo Duca leading over Piazza. (And widening his lead, at that!) Mike's reign had to come to an end at some point, but I don't think I would have guessed that Paul Lo Duca would end it.

Wright closing in on Rolen, huh? I'd love to see him win that one.

I think Beltran will probably win his position.

When does voting end?

And are Wright, Reyes, and Delgado all in second place?

Gwreck
Jun 06 2006 04:08 PM

Reyes is in 3rd in the close race. Renteria between him and Eckstein.

Beltran is in 2nd place, but the top 3 outfield spots get to start, hence measuring him versus the 4th place vote-getter. Beltran is 83,506 votes behind Andruw Jones for the overall outfield lead.

Delgado and Wright are in 2nd place also.

Online voting ends Midnight EDT on June 29. Ends at the ballparks on June 24.

seawolf17
Jun 06 2006 04:18 PM

You can vote online 25 times [u:e893d4ca3f]per e-mail address[/u:e893d4ca3f]. So all of you with multiple e-mail addresses, here's your job:

(1) Vote all Mets.
(2) Vote all Royals.

Yancy Street Gang
Jun 06 2006 04:20 PM

Oh yeah, this year it counts.

I still won't be watching.

soupcan
Jun 06 2006 04:22 PM

Looks like Pujols won't play anyway so we're looking at three possible starters.

Gwreck
Jun 06 2006 04:23 PM

I like the Royals idea, but my AL votes tend to go to:

1. Ichiro (trailing Damon for 3rd place)
2. Mark Loretta (deserving, and he trails Cano for the lead)
3. Miguel Tejada (obvious reasons)
4. Mike Lowell (same thing).

sharpie
Jun 06 2006 05:34 PM

Other than Vladimir Guerrero, the AL leaders are either Yankees or Red Sox.

Elster88
Jun 06 2006 05:52 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
Oh yeah, this year it counts.

So they're still doing that?

Elster88
Jun 07 2006 10:39 PM

Gotta figure Webb is getting the start right?

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2006 12:10 AM

I'm going to take my AL ballot and punch everyone who's NOT a BoSox or Yanqui

ScarletKnight41
Jun 12 2006 06:44 PM

Here's an update from The Flushing Flash -

]ALL-STAR UPDATE: WRIGHT TAKES THE LEAD

In the ballot update released Monday, David Wright has become
the leading vote-getter at third base in NL All-Star balloting.
Paul Lo Duca remains the leading vote-getter at catcher,
joining outfielder Carlos Beltran as Mets in line to start
at the Midsummer Classic.

Gwreck
Jun 12 2006 07:10 PM

Update #1 Released May 30
Update #2 Released June 5
Update #3 Released June 12

Wright takes the lead; Reyes moves to #2, Beltran is slipping -- he's now #3, with Andruw and Griffey ahead of him, and Soriano very close.

Catcher
Update # LoDuca Piazza Difference
1 273,054 264,787 +8,267
2 411,131 367,161 +43,970
3 631,896 528,110 +103,786

First Base
Update # Pujols Delgado Difference
1 726,854 220,484 -506,370
2 1,041,466 304,287 -737,189
3 1,442,273 443,747 -998,526

Third Base
Update # Wright Rolen Difference
1 292,335 340,733 -48,398
2 434,519 471,826 -37,307
3 661,184 644,412 +16,772

Shortstop
Update # Eckstein Reyes Difference
1 284,547 221,335 -63,212
2 396,464 324,863 -71,601
3 540,237 489,781 -50,456

Outfield
Update # Beltran 4th Place Difference
1 341,769 326,592 +15,177
2 499,693 444,094 +55,599
3 737,830 736,907 +923

Elster88
Jun 12 2006 09:20 PM

That +923 is about as close as I've ever seen.

Wright beating Rolen is a surprise to me. I figured Rolen was still the name brand that peeps would go with.

Nymr83
Jun 12 2006 09:24 PM

we need to support wright and beltran, start making those bullshit gmail accounts!

Elster88
Jun 12 2006 09:28 PM

Trying to remember how often does a starter get voted in who is unable to play as may be the case with Pujols this year? I'm pretty sure that the manager just names a replacement starter and that they don't go to the next name on the list from fan-voting. But I'm not positive. Am I right?

OlerudOwned
Jun 12 2006 09:29 PM

Beltran gets hot and loses ground, boo.
Maybe he'll pick it back up by the next count.

Gwreck
Jun 12 2006 09:33 PM

Elster88 wrote:
Trying to remember how often does a starter get voted in who is unable to play as may be the case with Pujols this year? I'm pretty sure that the manager just names a replacement starter and that they don't go to the next name on the list from fan-voting. But I'm not positive. Am I right?

Yes, you are correct. Delgado could be a strong choice, but there's also Ryan Howard, or Garner giving the start to Berkman.

SteveJRogers
Jun 12 2006 09:39 PM

Gwreck wrote:
="Elster88"]Trying to remember how often does a starter get voted in who is unable to play as may be the case with Pujols this year? I'm pretty sure that the manager just names a replacement starter and that they don't go to the next name on the list from fan-voting. But I'm not positive. Am I right?

Yes, you are correct. Delgado could be a strong choice, but there's also Ryan Howard, or Garner giving the start to Berkman.

Right now the selection process is:

Fans vote starter
Players vote for the next tier including starters and relievers, the position player goes to runner up if its the same
Then the manager and league office make up the rest of the 29 man roster
Then there is the Internet vote of the 30th man, no clue how they select the ballot for that, probably the biggest "Name" still out in the cold after the selections have been made

From there, its the manager's decision who should start if the chosen start is unable to play (also has to give up a roster slot as well, of course said replacement doesn't have to start in the injured players stead, but it does usually work out that way)

Elster88
Jun 12 2006 09:41 PM

I kinda wanted Piazza to win just because he's my buddy and he won't be getting put on the team by the manager. LoDuca woulda got put on anyway and I don't care if some other shlub doesn't get a spot because the fans voted for Piazza.

Gwreck
Jun 12 2006 09:48 PM

="SteveJRogers"][From there, its the manager's decision who should start if the chosen start is unable to play (also has to give up a roster slot as well, of course said replacement doesn't have to start in the injured players stead, but it does usually work out that way)

You're correct right up to the "does usually work out that way."

The player selected to replace a starter on the roster does not usually get to be in the starting lineup too. The starting lineup spot typically passes to someone already selected for the team.

OlerudOwned
Jun 19 2006 06:31 PM

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060619&content_id=1513327&vkey=allstar2006&fext=.jsp

Reyes takes the lead! Beltran takes 1st OF spot!

That means 4 starters for the Mets at this pace, plus the possibility of Glavine taking the hill to start.

ABG
Jun 19 2006 06:36 PM

OlerudOwned wrote:
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060619&content_id=1513327&vkey=allstar2006&fext=.jsp

Reyes takes the lead! Beltran takes 1st OF spot!

That means 4 starters for the Mets at this pace, plus the possibility of Glavine taking the hill to start.

Delgado could also start at first if Pujols isn't back...

Yancy Street Gang
Jun 19 2006 06:39 PM

Holy crap!

Edgy DC
Jun 19 2006 06:43 PM

As recently as 2003, the Mets had a single All-Star, and he was perhaps the least popular player on the team.

Nymr83
Jun 19 2006 06:46 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
As recently as 2003, the Mets had a single All-Star, and he was perhaps the least popular player on the team.

it seems to me that the closer is often the representative from a shitty team, i guess because they look at saves and say "oh he must be ok" while not realizing that any team that wins 60+ games usually generates 40+ save opportunities

Yancy Street Gang
Jun 19 2006 06:46 PM

Benitez, wasn't it?

Nymr83
Jun 19 2006 07:26 PM

of course.

Elster88
Jun 19 2006 08:24 PM

What's the most Met starters ever?

Doc, Darryl, and Gary?

TransMonk
Jun 19 2006 08:30 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 19 2006 08:36 PM

In '86 they had Carter, Hernandez, Straw and Doc.

I'm assuming that's the most. OE: It is the most.

Elster88
Jun 19 2006 08:30 PM

At this point I'd be shocked if Webb didn't get the start.

The Big O
Jun 19 2006 10:47 PM

TransMonk wrote:
In '86 they had Carter, Hernandez, Straw and Doc.

I'm assuming that's the most. OE: It is the most.

'86 is also the high mark for total Mets selections at 5, since El Sid made the team.

soupcan
Jun 19 2006 11:17 PM

If Pujols is injured does the start automatically fall to the next highest vote-getter or does the manager have some leeway there?

I'm guessing if the Mets already have 4 starters (LoDuca, Wright, Beltran, Reyes) that if its up to (who is the Houston manager - Bill Virdon?) the manager then Carlos D. doesn't get the start.

Ekspecially if Glavine gets the call.

DocTee
Jun 19 2006 11:37 PM

Phil Garner manages the 'stros.

RealityChuck
Jun 20 2006 08:41 AM

Elster88 wrote:
At this point I'd be shocked if Webb didn't get the start.
It depends on when he last pitched. Assuming he's rested, sure, but if he pitches on Sunday, no.

Centerfield
Jun 21 2006 12:39 PM

Mets still in line to send four (possibly five) starters.

But the non-MFY AL All Stars need your help.

Ichiro has just moved ahead of Johnny Damon for the third and final outfield spot (and quite frankly, with a .365 BA, he deserves it). Go vote now and make sure he doesn't relinquish his lead.

While you're there, vote for:

Mark Loretta - Second Base
-currently trails Robinson Cano

Miguel Tejada - Shortstop
-currently trails Jeter...wtf? Captain Asseater has 5 HR's.

Mike Lowell - Third Base
-currently trails A-Rod. Lead is huge...and even we have to admit, A-Rod probably deserves the spot.

Centerfield
Jun 21 2006 12:42 PM

Oh, and a voting confession...every year I blindly vote for all Mets. This was the first year I can remember voting for a non-Met to start. With all due respect to Paul LoDuca, I voted for Mike Piazza.

Old habits die hard.

Yancy Street Gang
Jun 21 2006 01:02 PM

Were you wearing your footie pajamas?

OlerudOwned
Jun 21 2006 01:07 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Mets still in line to send four (possibly five) starters.

But the non-MFY AL All Stars need your help.

Ichiro has just moved ahead of Johnny Damon for the third and final outfield spot (and quite frankly, with a .365 BA, he deserves it). Go vote now and make sure he doesn't relinquish his lead.

While you're there, vote for:

Mark Loretta - Second Base
-currently trails Robinson Cano

Miguel Tejada - Shortstop
-currently trails Jeter...wtf? Captain Asseater has 5 HR's.

Mike Lowell - Third Base
-currently trails A-Rod. Lead is huge...and even we have to admit, A-Rod probably deserves the spot.
While we're at it, the Red Sox bias bugs me. Varitek over Mauer? I scoff.

Gwreck
Jun 21 2006 01:12 PM

Oops, fell behind a little here...

Update #1 Released May 30
Update #2 Released June 5
Update #3 Released June 12
Update #4 Released June 19

Reyes takes the SS lead; Beltran takes the OF lead; LoDuca and Wright increase their leads.

Note that the OF lead is Beltran-Soriano-Bay, with Griffey Jr. now in 4th.

Catcher
Update # LoDuca Piazza Difference
1 273,054 264,787 +8,267
2 411,131 367,161 +43,970
3 631,896 528,110 +103,786
4 960,111 680,773 +279,338

First Base
Update # Pujols Delgado Difference
1 726,854 220,484 -506,370
2 1,041,466 304,287 -737,189
3 1,442,273 443,747 -998,526
4 1,777,968 700,771 -1,077,197

Third Base
Update # Wright Rolen Difference
1 292,335 340,733 -48,398
2 434,519 471,826 -37,307
3 661,184 644,412 +16,772
4 1,018,814 819,830 +198,984

Shortstop
Update # Reyes Eckstein Difference
1 221,335 284,547 -63,212
2 324,863 396,464 -71,601
3 489,781 540,237 -50,456
4 769,919 689,054 +80,865

Outfield
Update # Beltran 4th Place Difference
1 341,769 326,592 +15,177
2 499,693 444,094 +55,599
3 737,830 736,907 +923
4 1,129,865 1,032,102 +97,763

MFS62
Jun 21 2006 01:50 PM

Ka-CHING!
Beltran gets $100K if he makes the All Star game, and another $100K if he gets the most votes in the league.
Looks like he won't get that second hunnert grand, even if Pujols is caught in compromising photos with Osama Bin Laden.

Later

Mr. Zero
Jun 21 2006 01:51 PM

Wondering if I've missed something, but how has Carlos Delgado only been an all-star twice? Is he a second half kind of guy?

Frayed Knot
Jun 21 2006 02:02 PM

- because 1st base is always the toughest competition
- because he played mostly in Canada
- and because voting is a flawed process

I got around to voting last night.
It won't make a bit of difference (I have no patience to sit there and vote the max 25 times you're allowed) but I just wanted to strike a blow for those having good years but are getting ignored for various reasons and are getting their asses kicked by often less-deserving MFYs & BoSoxers,

AL:
1B - Hafner
2B - Loretta
SS - Tejada
3B - Glaus
OF: Sizemore, Wells, Rios (had to write him in!!)
C: Mauer

NL:
1B - Pujols (if he's still injured then someone else takes it)
2B - Utley
SS - Renterea
3B - Wright
OF Beltran, Bay, Holliday
C - McCann

SteveJRogers
Jun 21 2006 03:08 PM

Mr. Zero wrote:
Wondering if I've missed something, but how has Carlos Delgado only been an all-star twice? Is he a second half kind of guy?

Also Toronto was usually represented by a pitcher like Roger Clemens or Doc Haliday

Elster88
Jun 21 2006 03:26 PM

Mr. Zero wrote:
Wondering if I've missed something, but how has Carlos Delgado only been an all-star twice? Is he a second half kind of guy?

First base has a lot of sluggers usually. Are you sure it's not that he's only been voted by the fans twice? That would make more sense to me.

Yancy Street Gang
Jun 21 2006 03:37 PM

He's played in two All-Star games. He may have been on the team in other years but didn't get into the game.

Not terribly likely, though. These days it seems like everybody gets into the game.

Edgy DC
Jun 21 2006 03:43 PM

Two rosters totald for CD.

Elster88
Jun 21 2006 03:45 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
- because 1st base is always the toughest competition
- because he played mostly in Canada
- and because voting is a flawed process

I don't buy the second two reasons just because in picking reserves, hopefully, the managers wouldn't be swayed by where the player played or the votes of the fans.

Mr. Zero
Jun 21 2006 06:56 PM

Some first basemen named to the All-Star game ahead of Delgado since 1997.

Mark McGwire
Mo Vaughn
Tino Martinez
Ron Coomer (perhaps as the Twins lone rep.)
Tony Clark (Tigers lone rep?)
Mike Sweeney (like 5 times. Lone KC rep?)
Jason Giambi (5 times)
Ken Harvey (who? Oh yeah. Need someone from KC)

2005 NL: Derek Lee only first basemen named (Pujols was DH).

Seems to be the victim of stiff competition for the position from popular players combined with the need to have all clubs represented. Not that I particlarly give a hoot, but I was just kind of surprised, as he always seemed to me one of the top hitters in the game over the last ten years.

Gwreck
Jun 21 2006 11:50 PM

="Mr. Zero"]but I was just kind of surprised, as he always seemed to me one of the top hitters in the game over the last ten years.

No kidding. Leafing through the Mets media guide during the game, saw that only Manny and Slappy have more RBIs then Delgado for the period 1998-2005.

Delgado is often a second-half hitter, which I think is the primary explanation after the roster crunches mentioned above.

Centerfield
Jun 22 2006 12:36 PM

Funny...MLB is encouraging folks to stuff the ballot box:

Thank you for voting for your favorite players on the
Monster.com 2006 All-Star Game Online Ballot.

We invite you to return to the ballot on MLB.com and
vote up to twenty-five times. Your vote counts, and may
help your favorite players get to the All-Star Game
in Pittsburgh.

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2006 12:40 PM

More often you vote, the more often you look at ads.

I get a monster.com ad with the ballot. Like they know that me using the internet to vote 25 times means that I'm going to need a job soon.

MFS62
Jun 22 2006 01:21 PM

The other day I was in WaMart.
They had All Star ballots and a box to put them in. After you voted, they gave you an "I voted" sticker with the MLB logo on it.

Later

Yancy Street Gang
Jun 22 2006 01:26 PM

How big a nerd do you have to be to walk around with an MLB "I voted" sticker on your shirt?

Centerfield
Jun 22 2006 01:46 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
How big a nerd do you have to be to walk around with an MLB "I voted" sticker on your shirt?

(CF discreetly removes sticker, crumples it up and drops it under his chair)

Gwreck
Jun 26 2006 08:44 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2006 11:41 AM

Update #1 Released May 30
Update #2 Released June 5
Update #3 Released June 12
Update #4 Released June 19
Update #5 Released June 26

Still #1: LoDuca; Reyes; Wright. Beltran falls to #2, behind Jason Bay. Alfonso Soriano 3rd, Griffey Jr. 4th.

Strong local Pittsburgh effort has also pushed Jack Wilson up to #2, with Eckstein falling to #3 (behind Reyes).

Catcher
Update # LoDuca Piazza Difference
1 273,054 264,787 +8,267
2 411,131 367,161 +43,970
3 631,896 528,110 +103,786
4 960,111 680,773 +279,338
5 1,281,767 880,948 +400,819

First Base
Update # Pujols Delgado Difference
1 726,854 220,484 -506,370
2 1,041,466 304,287 -737,189
3 1,442,273 443,747 -998,526
4 1,777,968 700,771 -1,077,197
5 2,206,409 946,093 -1,260,316

Third Base
Update # Wright Rolen Difference
1 292,335 340,733 -48,398
2 434,519 471,826 -37,307
3 661,184 644,412 +16,772
4 1,018,814 819,830 +198,984
5 1,386,584 1,041,250 +345,334

Shortstop
Update # Reyes 2nd Place Difference
1 221,335 284,547 -63,212
2 324,863 396,464 -71,601
3 489,781 540,237 -50,456
4 769,919 689,054 +80,865
5 1,068,105 986,117 +81,988

Outfield
Update # Beltran 4th Place Difference
1 341,769 326,592 +15,177
2 499,693 444,094 +55,599
3 737,830 736,907 +923
4 1,129,865 1,032,102 +97,763
5 1,537,849 1,366,906 +170,943

Elster88
Jun 27 2006 09:28 AM

]Strong local Pittsburgh effort has also pushed Jack Wilson up to #2,

Do you have regional numbers too?

Gwreck
Jun 27 2006 10:25 AM

Elster88 wrote:
]Strong local Pittsburgh effort has also pushed Jack Wilson up to #2,

Do you have regional numbers too?

No, but given his surge along with Jason Bay becoming the #1 outfielder, and the location of the game this year being Pittsburgh, it seems pretty logical.

Frayed Knot
Jun 27 2006 10:27 AM

Plus there are unconfirmed reports that many of the paper ballots tested positive for 'Iron City Beer'

MFS62
Jun 27 2006 11:01 AM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Plus there are unconfirmed reports that many of the paper ballots tested positive for 'Iron City Beer'

And both Wilson and Bay have been spotted wearing their motorcycle helmets in the on-deck circle.

Later

Elster88
Jun 29 2006 05:16 PM

Eight hours 'till the polls close.