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KC Jun 12 2006 01:34 PM

This weekend sealed it for me, I'm becoming a Mets fan and dropping The Bronx Bombers for good. I stuck with them through all the ups and downs of the last ten years and I'm through. It's painful watching them lose and all the injuries - fugetaboutit. I profess my fandom to the orange and blue - that is if you'll have me. Thanks, and Lets Go Mets!!!

Edgy DC Jun 12 2006 01:35 PM

Answer some trivia first. I say Mlicki and you think... what?

soupcan Jun 12 2006 01:41 PM

Who was the Mets shortstop before Reyes?

Centerfield Jun 12 2006 01:42 PM

Matsui! And before that, Reyes!

ScarletKnight41 Jun 12 2006 01:50 PM

Elster88 Jun 12 2006 01:50 PM

Centerfield wrote: Matsui! And before that, Reyes! LOL Welcome aboardick, KC.

seawolf17 Jun 12 2006 01:53 PM

I had no idea you used to be one of "them." Bizarre. All those people jumping on the bandwagon in '96 must have pushed you off by mistake.

ABG Jun 12 2006 03:13 PM

Interesting approach to this point--how bad are the bandwagon jumpers gonna get?

KC Jun 12 2006 03:15 PM

Being a Mets fan since 1973, I just don't get some baseball fans. Someone today actually prompted this stupid post because of his irritation with the fact that they've "done nothing" since 2000 and that he's a New Yorker and it looks like the Mets are the team to go with so he is. He wants to go to a game with me. I'll french kiss Jorge Posada before I go to Shea with him. Fuck that, we don't want you - go walk around monument park if you need some shits and giggles.

Edgy DC Jun 12 2006 03:26 PM

Still six and a half hours until midnight, but centerfield just lost his top ranking for Post of the Day.

Nymr83 Jun 12 2006 03:32 PM

the bandwagoners are coming, be ready. i say we setup a mets trivia quiz for access to this site. i'd hate to have a bunch of bandwagoners on here in october joining in our well-earned celebrations.

SteveJRogers Jun 12 2006 07:33 PM

Nymr83 wrote: the bandwagoners are coming, be ready. i say we setup a mets trivia quiz for access to this site. i'd hate to have a bunch of bandwagoners on here in october joining in our well-earned celebrations. Yeah, but stuff you can't find simply by looking at UMDB, MBTN or any of the major baseball reference sites. Or at least stuff that would take forever to fine I.e. -Who was the compensetory pick that the Mets took from the Dodgers when they signed Darryl Strawberry -Who was Nolan Ryan's 4,000th strikeout -What significant thing occured in every single third game of a World Series that the Mets ever played in, and describe each occurance -True or false, the Mets won the 1986 World Series on a Sunday -At what sporting event did the announcement that the Mets had won the World Series did the entire stadium erupt in a "Lets Go Mets" chant -Who was the last Met to be taken number one overall in the MLB entry Draft (love to know how many people will still pick Strawberry) -True or False, Roger Clemens was drafted by the Mets -Name three Mets that they severly overpaid for via free agency that never lived up to any sort of the hype that the money demanded (I'm on the fence about considering Beltran elligable for this question, he's being paid A-Rod/Jeter money but he surely isn't on that particular level, cut below) -How did the only All Star Game in Shea Stadium's history end -Name all (I THINK its up to 12 right now) 12 members of baseball's Hall of Fame to have WORN a Met uniform (that includes coaches and managers of course) -Name the 5 members of the 400 Homerun club who at one time played as a Met -Who did the Mets trade with to get Mike Piazza (kind of a "are you paying attention?" question) and how they accquire him (to see if their overall baseball accumen is sharp as that trade did land a SI cover) Of course noted bandwagon jumper Wally Mathews said one time on his radio show "Don't confuse fanhood with recitiation of stats and trivia"

Elster88 Jun 12 2006 07:36 PM

I don't like bandwagoners either, in fact I loathe them, but this idea of giving people a test before allowing them to post.....just seems somewhat like being a dickhead to me.

SteveJRogers Jun 12 2006 07:40 PM

Elster88 wrote: I don't like bandwagoners either, in fact I loathe them, but this idea of giving people a test before allowing them to post.....just seems somewhat like being a dickhead to me. I agree, I was just having some fun with questions that would be hard to do without extensive research, basically some things that long time fans would know and/or be able to get quickly

SteveJRogers Jun 12 2006 07:52 PM

Just for those wondering ]-Who was the compensetory pick that the Mets took from the Dodgers when they signed Darryl Strawberry Bobby Fresno Jones ]-Who was Nolan Ryan's 4,000th strikeout Danny Heep ]-What significant thing occured in every single third game of a World Series that the Mets ever played in, and describe each occurance Leadoff hitter smacked a homer, 69 Agee, 73 Garrett, 86 Dysktra, 00 Jeter, last two led off the game ]-True or false, the Mets won the 1986 World Series on a Sunday False, rain washed away the scheduled game which leads to... ]-At what sporting event did the announcement that the Mets had won the World Series did the entire stadium erupt in a "Lets Go Mets" chant Giants-Redskins at the Meadowlands for Monday Night Football ] -Who was the last Met to be taken number one overall in the MLB entry Draft (love to know how many people will still pick Strawberry) Paul Wilson ]-True or False, Roger Clemens was drafted by the Mets Yes, he chose to go to Texas University instead ] -Name three Mets that they severly overpaid for via free agency that never lived up to any sort of the hype that the money demanded (I'm on the fence about considering Beltran elligable for this question, he's being paid A-Rod/Jeter money but he surely isn't on that particular level, cut below) I was considering George Foster, Bobby Bonilla, and Kris Benson ]-How did the only All Star Game in Shea Stadium's history end Johnny Callison's pinch hit, walk off homer ]-Name all (I THINK its up to 12 right now) 12 members of baseball's Hall of Fame to have WORN a Met uniform (that includes coaches and managers of course) Hornsby, Ruffing, Stengel, Ashburn, Snider, Spahn, Berra, Seaver, Ryan, Mays, Gibson, Carter, Murray Uh, thats 13 actually...OOOPS! ]-Name the 5 members of the 400 Homerun club who at one time played as a Met Mays, Snider, Murray, Kingman, Piazza ]-Who did the Mets trade with to get Mike Piazza (kind of a "are you paying attention?" question) and how they accquire him (to see if their overall baseball accumen is sharp as that trade did land a SI cover) Mike Piazza, along with Todd Zeile to the Marlins for Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, Charles Johnson, Gary Sheffield (Sheffield is the only name I would have given full credit for, the rest ESPECIALLY the next name would be bonus) and Manuel Barrios on May 14th 1998

soupcan Jun 12 2006 08:22 PM

Captain America goes a bit overboard with his trivia questions but not really that bad an idea. One question - answer it and you can post. It doesn't have to be that hard.

Nymr83 Jun 12 2006 08:53 PM

or we could require a pre-2006 ticket stub!

The Big O Jun 12 2006 10:49 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Mike Piazza, along with Todd Zeile to the Marlins for Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, Charles Johnson, Gary Sheffield (Sheffield is the only name I would have given full credit for, the rest ESPECIALLY the next name would be bonus) and Manuel Barrios on May 14th 1998 So you'd require knowledge of the Dodgers-Marlins end of the deal, but not the Mets-Marlins end? Weirdness.

Gwreck Jun 13 2006 02:02 AM

SteveJRogers wrote: ]-What significant thing occured in every single third game of a World Series that the Mets ever played in, and describe each occurance Leadoff hitter smacked a homer, 69 Agee, 73 Garrett, 86 Dysktra, 00 Jeter, last two led off the game Capt'n intangibles' lead-off homer was Game 4, not Game 3.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 13 2006 04:33 AM

The newspapers. They'll tell us what to do.

Rockin' Doc Jun 13 2006 04:58 AM

KC - "...I'll french kiss Jorge Posada before I go to Shea with him." Kiss him, but just don't shake hands with him.

holychicken Jun 13 2006 05:52 AM

Wasn't Derek Jeter the Mets' shortstop before Reyes? Can I post now?

SteveJRogers Jun 13 2006 05:59 AM

The Big O wrote: ="SteveJRogers"] Mike Piazza, along with Todd Zeile to the Marlins for Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, Charles Johnson, Gary Sheffield (Sheffield is the only name I would have given full credit for, the rest ESPECIALLY the next name would be bonus) and Manuel Barrios on May 14th 1998 So you'd require knowledge of the Dodgers-Marlins end of the deal, but not the Mets-Marlins end? Weirdness. Nah, just a general sense of the baseball world, not that important but that is a hallmark of a causal bandwagon jumping fan that they wouldn't know that Piazza was dealt in a rather infamous trade to the Marlins before being sent to the Mets. Basically the type of fan that wouldn't know a Todd Helton, Craig Biggio, Eric Chavez, or an Adam Kennedy if they fell on them, or complain about interleague play because they never heard of any one on the non Mets/Yankees teams that they play

SteveJRogers Jun 13 2006 06:01 AM

Gwreck wrote: ="SteveJRogers"] ]-What significant thing occured in every single third game of a World Series that the Mets ever played in, and describe each occurance Leadoff hitter smacked a homer, 69 Agee, 73 Garrett, 86 Dysktra, 00 Jeter, last two led off the game Capt'n intangibles' lead-off homer was Game 4, not Game 3. Oops! D'OH! HA! Robin Ventura homered in the second! So a Met homered in each game! Okay, thats convluted, trying to save some face here =;)

KC Jun 13 2006 06:06 AM

Steingrabber: JENKINS, where's the back pages of my newspapers? Jenkins: They came that way, sir. Steingrabber: Go out and get me new copies, I want to see the whole paper. Jenkins: Tried that sir, six block radius, all the papers are that way. Steingrabber: Bring the Rolls around, we'll go somewhere and find them. Jenkins: In the shop, sir. Steingrabber: Get me some shoes, we'lll walk downtown. Jenkins: Elevator's out sir - we're seventy-eight floors up. Shall I ....? Steingrabber: Internet, we have internet don't we? Jenkins: On the fritz sir, building has T1 issues or something. Steingrabber: GET ME CASHMAN ON THE PHONE NOW!!! Jenkins: Phone works on the internet line, sir ... we kinda have to stay put for now. Steingrabber: ________________________________________________

Edgy DC Jun 13 2006 06:30 AM

I enjoy a hazing question as much as the next guy --- more --- but not of the high-stakes variety. More as an exercise in chops-busting and fun. Model the behavior we want from others and peeps will realize quickly enough whether this is the site for them. Some dyed-in-the-woolies were once bandwagonners.

metsmarathon Jun 13 2006 07:07 AM

i'm a former bandwagonjumperonner. it just so happens it was 1985 and i was 8. and i dont think htere's a single one of those questions i would've gotten entirely right without researching. i prolly could've happened upon the 400-homer club with enough thought, but wasn't thinking of kong, for some reason. my best showing was in the clemens question, but i wouldn't've been able to name the college. i guess i'm just not good enough for this elitist club of yours, you damned cranepoolers... edit: and i LOVE the pic of pedro with the crown.

MFS62 Jun 13 2006 07:17 AM

Yankee fans not supporting a sure fire winner isn't new. I happened to notice that on today's date in 1948, The Yankees paid tribute to the greatest player in the history of the game on Babe Ruth Day at the Stadium. The attendance that day? 49,641. At that time, the capacity for Yankee Stadium was listed as 67,000. But in 1948, the 94-60 Yankees would "only" finish second to the 97-58 Indians. The following year, The 97-57 Yankees, beginning a five year Dynasty, would draw crowds a large as 73,000 in games against the Indians (who finished with an 89-65 record). Seems like even a draw like Babe Ruth Day couldn't fill the Stadium if the team wasn't a sure fire winner. Yes, I expect that many Yankee fans will come over from the Dark Side. Welcome them. Their money is still green. And the Mets will be able to use that money to scout, sign, and develop the players that will keep the franchise winning for many years to come. Later

old original jb Jun 13 2006 07:28 AM

How about: 1) Are you now or have you ever been a Yankee fan? 2) How did you become a Yankee fan? 3) Is it possible to root for both the Yankees AND the Mets? What about the Red Sox and the Mets? and 3) What gives?

Elster88 Jun 13 2006 09:32 AM

MFS62 wrote: Yankee fans not supporting a sure fire winner isn't new. This goes both ways. Plenty of the Met "fans" in 1986 ran away when the Mets started sucking. And plenty of the Yankee fans today were loyal Yankee fans in the mid-80s and early-90s when the Yanks sucked.

Mr. Zero Jun 13 2006 09:59 AM

Thought I'd post this, newbie that I am, to avoid any assumptions of bandwagoneering--not that there's anything wrong with that (cough, cough). 1) Are you now or have you ever been a Yankee fan? Nevah! 2) How did you become a Yankee fan? as if! 3) Is it possible to root for both the Yankees AND the Mets? What about the Red Sox and the Mets? I find rooting against the Yankees is a great way to direct all the negative energy and vindictive bile that gets stored up over the course of a year. Stub your toe? “Yankees Suck!”. Get cut off on the highway? “Jeter Blows!”. Wife cheating on you? “I think I heard that A-Rod was gay.” Though I do find the "Yankees Suck" chants that start up at Shea kind of suck-y. When Mets are eliminated from contention, Red Sox become de facto Mets in my household. Common enemy. 3) What gives? I will admit to once having stepped foot inside Yankee Stadium. Hey, it was a free ticket to a World Series game! Dodgers v. Yankees (Dodgers won). Was but a wee lad at the time, yet I still retain the scar on my chest from where the Met emblem on my concealed t-shirt was seared into my skin after crossing the turnstile. And my eyebrows will probably never grow back.

Elster88 Jun 13 2006 10:12 AM

Mr. Zero wrote: Was but a wee lad at the time, yet I still retain the scar on my chest from where the Met emblem on my concealed t-shirt was seared into my skin after crossing the turnstile. And my eyebrows will probably never grow back. LOL

MFS62 Jun 13 2006 10:15 AM

Welcome, Mr. Zero. Was that the 1963 Series during which Yankee announcer Mel Allen was so distraught that his beloved Yankees were getting humiliated by LA that he lost his voice in the broadcast booth and "squeaked" the rest of the game? Later

Mr. Zero Jun 13 2006 10:24 AM

MFS62, Can't go back that far. 1978. Ron Cey hit a big home run. About all I remember. Aside from the stench of melting flesh and iron-on.

MFS62 Jun 13 2006 10:28 AM

Welcome anyhow, rookie. Now, it is required for you to get your arse up on that virtual table in the middle of the room and sing us your school fight song. And your response tells us you're still young enough to be able to get it up there. And when you're done, there's the matter of carrying our virtual bags. Later

Mr. Zero Jun 13 2006 10:45 AM

um..err...well, my school didn't actually have a fight song. But there may have been a "lie down and let the other team roll over you" song. I'll have to check. I don't mind carrying the virtual bags, just check your own porn through security.

MFS62 Jun 13 2006 11:00 AM

Mr. Zero wrote: um..err...well, my school didn't actually have a fight song. But there may have been a "lie down and let the other team roll over you" song. I'll have to check. I don't mind carrying the virtual bags, just check your own porn through security. Deal. And I was kidding about the song. Just checking to see if you can be easily intimidated. Later

Rockin' Doc Jun 13 2006 11:19 AM

Mr. Zero, nice entry into the 'pool. Just jump right in, as you can see the waters fine. Welcome, it's great to have you with us.

Edgy DC Jun 13 2006 11:21 AM

I saw Don Gullett pitch the Yankees to a World Series win in game one against the Dodgers in 1977. Friend Eric's father was well-cnnected and that was Eric's birthday party, despite him being an ostensible Met fan. He was later at Game Six of the 1986 series.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 13 2006 11:29 AM

Wow, I had forgotten that Don Gullet was a Yankee. When I first read your post, I thought you had the year and team wrong, and that it must have been Gullet pitching against the Yankees in 1976.

Edgy DC Jun 13 2006 11:35 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 13 2006 01:17 PM

As I've written in the past, I first started following baseball closely in 1977. I knew somehow that Gullett was a National League refugee and had foolishly concluded that he got the Game One start because he was a good hitter and the World Series would feature pitchers batting that year. He was, it turns out, a pretty good hitting pitcher, but I think I somehow thought --- with little knowledge of Don Drysdale outside of The Brady Bunch --- that all guys named "Don" were pitchers who could hit and were either Dodgers or former Dodgers.

Elster88 Jun 13 2006 11:44 AM

Mr. Zero wrote: I don't mind carrying the virtual bags, just check your own porn through security. If your first few posts are anything to go by, your sense of humor will fit right in with the rest of the folks here. Actually that might be a bad thing. I get plenty of funny looks from co-workers when I crack up as is.

Mr. Zero Jun 13 2006 11:56 AM

I seem to remember Gullett as one of the Yankees early era free agent signings that didn't live up to the hype (the first of many). Then his arm detached. Though I guess I never considered him to be a "true" Yankee since none of my Yankee loving "friends" (but thanks for the series ticket!) ever chose to be him during wiffle ball home run derby contests. It tended more towards a Guidry vs Kingman matchup.

Frayed Knot Jun 13 2006 12:03 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 13 2006 12:18 PM

Gullett, IIRC, was already damaged goods when the Yanx signed him - but that was in the new FA-era when George was not only signing guys he wanted but in some cases was hording redundant players simply so opposing teams couldn't have them. I first saw Gullett when he came into relieve during game 2 of a Met/Reds DH. I had never heard of the guy before but he came in tossing bullets and shut down Met bats for several innings as the Reds took the night-cap.

SteveJRogers Jun 13 2006 12:05 PM

metsmarathon wrote: i'm a former bandwagonjumperonner. it just so happens it was 1985 and i was 8. and i dont think htere's a single one of those questions i would've gotten entirely right without researching. i prolly could've happened upon the 400-homer club with enough thought, but wasn't thinking of kong, for some reason. my best showing was in the clemens question, but i wouldn't've been able to name the college. i guess i'm just not good enough for this elitist club of yours, you damned cranepoolers... edit: and i LOVE the pic of pedro with the crown. Heh, seriously I tend to side along with the Mathews quote about fandom, though I really do think some of the basics should be known by causal fans. I.e. retired numbers and postseason apperances (and yes that means all 40+ postseason apperances and almost 20 retired numbers over there in the Bronx) and other important details Just having some fun with those questions

Frayed Knot Jun 13 2006 12:17 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 13 2006 12:31 PM

* Found that Gullett game: 8/23/70 Mets take a 5-2 lead - but Seaver coughs up 2 in the 5th & 3 more in the 7th enroute to a 7 IP, 7 R (6 ER), 11 H, 5 BB day. He even took the mound for the 8th!! (Hodges misusing his pen again!!). Meanwhile, Gullett came in to relieve McGlothin & Washburn to toss 4 innings of hitless/walkless ball w/8 Ks!! to close out the game. btw, he was just 19 y/o!! Great pitcher when he came up but really only had 3 full seasons and was done by age 28

ScarletKnight41 Jun 13 2006 12:20 PM

Welcome aboard Mr. Zero :)

MFS62 Jun 13 2006 12:23 PM

Don Gullett is the player some Yankee fans still point to when they're recalling "big money" free agants who didn't work out well. He was the poster boy for the "don't give pitchers long term free agent contracts" school of thought. Later

Willets Point Jun 13 2006 12:29 PM

Welcome Mr. Zero. Are you a fan of this guy?

Benjamin Grimm Jun 13 2006 12:32 PM

I'm thinking of Zero from Beetle Bailey. Hey! Tomorrow's Wednesday! We get to see Miss Buxley!

Mr. Zero Jun 13 2006 12:38 PM

no major fan of Rey-O. Enjoyed him and was annoyed by him as much as the next guy.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 13 2006 12:55 PM

That proves that Mr. Zero is a Mort Walker fan! I think. Let's all try to guess his first name. Absolute? Ground? I wish Richard Dawson was here. "Blank Zero."

ScarletKnight41 Jun 13 2006 01:07 PM

My Hero, Zero ]Zero? Yeah. Zero is a wonderful thing. In fact, zero is my hero! How can zero be a hero? Well, there are all kinds of heroes, you know. A man can get to be a hero for a famous battle he fought; Or by studying very hard and becoming a weightless astronaut. And then there are heroes of other sorts. Like the heroes we know from watching sports. But a hero doesn't have to be a grown up person, you know. A hero can be a very big dog who comes to your rescue, Or a very little boy who's smart enough to know what to do. But let me tell you about my favorite hero... Did you ever stop to think about zero? Zero is fantastic! Why, without the concept of zero, we'd never be able to multiply, divide, add, subtract, or even to count very high. My hero, zero Such a funny little hero But till you came along We counted on our fingers and toes Now you're here to stay And nobody really knows How wonderful you are Why we could never reach a star Without you, zero, my hero How wonderful you are What's so wonderful about a zero? It's nothing, isn't it? Sure, it represents nothing alone... But place a zero after 1 And you've got yourself a 10 (See how important that is?) When you run out of digits You can start all over again (See how convenient that is?) That's why with only ten digits including zero You could count as high as you could ever go Forever, towards infinity No one ever gets there, but you could try With 10 billion zeros From the cavemen till the heroes who invented you They counted on their fingers and toes And maybe some sticks and stones Or rocks and bones And their neighbors' toes, yeah And nobody really knows How wonderful you are Why we could never reach the star Without you, zero, my hero Zero, how wonderful you are Place one zero after any number And you've multiplied that number by 10 (See how easy that is?) Place two zero's after any number And you've multiplied that number by 100 (See how simple that is?) Place three zeros after any number And you've multiplied that number by 1000 Et cetera, et cetera, ad infinitum Ad astra, forever, and ever With zero, my hero, how wonderful you are [url=http://www.school-house-rock.com/0.html]Link to Audio[/url] So Mr. Zero - with what major league players do you share a birthday? You can use [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/birthdays.shtml]this[/url] as a cheat sheet <g>

Mr. Zero Jun 13 2006 01:38 PM

it's pretty motley assortment, my fellow Libras: ex Mets: Rey Sanchez and Brent Gaff then HOFer though non-player Henry Chadwick followed by a bunch of guys who sound like they should be in some kind of Hall of Fame: Davey Crockett (Frontier HOF) Sam West (Cowboy Boot HOF) Felix Chouinardn (Cajun Music HOF) Scottie Slayback (Attica HOF) and Randy Bush (hmmm...) Oh, and its just Mr., I guess.

ScarletKnight41 Jun 13 2006 01:50 PM

There's always room for another Libra around here, Mr. ;)

MFS62 Jun 13 2006 05:33 PM

Libras are fine people. Later

Frayed Knot Jun 13 2006 08:12 PM

In the early '90s Yanqui teams, Mel Hall took it upon himself to make Bernie Williams into his personal whipping boy. "Mr. Zero" was the nickname he hung on Bernie for his supposed value to the club. Obviously NYY mgmt thought differently (and correectly).

Willets Point Oct 08 2006 10:32 PM

Bumping this thread just in case we have to welcome aboard any "diehard" Yankees fans looking to make a switch.

MFS62 Oct 09 2006 06:30 AM

Kudos to the Daily News. We might have expected the picture of A-Rod on the front page would have been bigger than the picture of the Met player. Or there would have been a picture of Torre, with no mention of the Mets. But they didn't. So watch the door. The bandwagon jumpers wil be arriving shortly. Later

metsmarathon Oct 09 2006 07:22 AM

i still can't answer any of those trivia questions... can i still hang out here anyways?

silverdsl Oct 09 2006 08:26 AM

Willets Point wrote: Bumping this thread just in case we have to welcome aboard any "diehard" Yankees fans looking to make a switch. This Yankee fan won't be making a switch no matter how disappointing the team is at the moment. I do understand how some fans feel more and less passionately at times about the teams that they're a fan of, but it's hard for me to relate to abandoning one team completely and jumping on the bandwagon of another team.

Willets Point Oct 09 2006 10:25 AM

silverdsl wrote: ="Willets Point"]Bumping this thread just in case we have to welcome aboard any "diehard" Yankees fans looking to make a switch. This Yankee fan won't be making a switch no matter how disappointing the team is at the moment. I do understand how some fans feel more and less passionately at times about the teams that they're a fan of, but it's hard for me to relate to abandoning one team completely and jumping on the bandwagon of another team. And that's why we like you.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 29 2006 11:31 AM

Wake up call!