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The Ramones vs. Guns 'n Roses BLC

Lenny Harris Jun 07 2006 10:22 PM

1. Blitzkreig Bop 2. Teenage Lobotomy 3. Sheena is a Punk Rocker 4. Rockaway Beach 5. Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio? 6. Bonzo Goes to Bitburg 7. I Wanna Be Sedated 8. We're a Happy Family 9. Rock 'n Roll High School 10. 53rd and 3rd

Elster88 Jun 07 2006 10:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 08 2006 03:15 PM

[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQF/104-1977186-4009511?v=glance&n=5174]1) Sweet Child O' Mine [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSE/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]2) November Rain [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQF/104-1977186-4009511?v=glance&n=5174]3) Paradise City [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQF/104-1977186-4009511?v=glance&n=5174]4) Welcome to the Jungle [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSG/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]5) You Could Be Mine[/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSE/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]6) Don't Cry (original lyrics)[/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQF/104-1977186-4009511?v=glance&n=5174]7) Mr. Brownstone [/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSG/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]8) Estranged[/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OSG/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/104-1977186-4009511?%5Fencoding=UTF8]9) Civil War[/url] [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000OQY/qid=1141221967/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-1977186-4009511?s=music&v=glance&n=5174]10) Patience[/url]

metirish Jun 08 2006 02:29 PM

Cool

Edgy DC Jun 08 2006 02:50 PM

About freakin' time the Ramones got involved. I was holding out hope that KC would sponsor them.

Elster88 Jun 08 2006 03:09 PM

Red-haired guys look weird when they get older.

Elster88 Jun 08 2006 03:15 PM

This isn't fun anymore. Lenny, post some snippets! Edgy, post a pretty chart with Fun Facts!

Edgy DC Jun 08 2006 04:04 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 12 2006 09:16 AM

vs. "Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" Interesting Fact: This may have already been covered in this space. The rotating chair behind the Ramones drum kit was mostly occupied by Tommy and Marky Ramone, leaving peeps (me, anyway), of the impression of a bitter rivalry between the two; divided loyalties among the band; and artistic differences erupting, getting settled, and erupting again. In fact, the two were friends, and were both strongly committed to the band, but neither could stand being on the road for long bouncing in the back of the van and putting up with the draining extended ongoing feud between Johnny and Joey. So, they'd call each other up at the beginning of each recording/touring cycle and decide whose turn it was to put up with it. Interesting Fact: In 2002, Axl Rose cancelled a concert in Vancouver, starting a Canadian riot. The official reason that it was cancelled was that weather conditions would not allow Rose's plane to leave LA. Has LA ever had weather conditions that caused the cancellation of a plane flight? It's just such a seventies throwback. Axl may be the very last reclusive bitter rock star so indifferent to his fans that he causes them to riot in their hockey jerseys. Straight out of Almost Famous.

metirish Jun 08 2006 04:07 PM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" - GnR "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" - GnR "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" -GnR "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" - GnR "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" - GnR "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" - Ramones "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" - Ramones "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" - Ramones "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" - GnR "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" - GnR GnR - 7 Ramones - 3 I like the Ramones but the match ups didn't suit them

RealityChuck Jun 08 2006 07:27 PM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" -- Ramones "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" -- Ramones "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" -- GnR "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" -- Ramones "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" -- Ramones "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" -- tie "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" -- Ramones "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" -- tie "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" -- Ramones "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" -- tie Not much of a contest: a run-of-the-mill heavy metal act vs. the kings of punk. The Ramones basically invented a whole musical genre while GnR were just content to imitate Led Zepplin Ramones 8.5-1.5

Edgy DC Jun 08 2006 08:12 PM

Axl's a lot of things, but he never struck me as content. ]Red-haired guys look weird when they get older. Corn-rows and facial procedures help.

ScarletKnight41 Jun 08 2006 08:21 PM

. Avi wuz here. Wrong thread.

seawolf17 Jun 08 2006 08:34 PM

"Blitzkrieg Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" GUNS - One of the greatest riffs of all time "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" GUNS - You want a rock epic? You got a rock epic. "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" GUNS - Riff after riff after motherfucking riff. "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" GUNS - The original. "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" RAMONES - I'll throw them a bone, even though YCBM rules. Nah, no I won't. GUNS "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" GUNS - Huh? "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" GUNS - I get up around seven, go on stage about nine. Get on the bus about eleven, sippin' a drink and feeling fine. Axl writes a nice biography of Seawolf. "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" GUNS - Like November Rain, without the popular video. "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" GUNS - What's so civil 'bout war, anyway? "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" GUNS - HA! Get out of here, punk boys. The Ramones used basically the same two chords over and over, and whereas the Gunners imploded pretty quickly, what they released kicked an enormous amount of ass. I like the Ramones, but I think they shot too high. I will admit that I'm selfishly bitter that Axl might be starting to get his shit together. We saw the last ever GNR show, at MSG a few years back. (A few days later, they blew off Philly, and then Mr. Bailey basically became Brian Wilson for a few years, but with only half the weight gain.) I was hoping that I could have been there for a little bit of history. But alas.

sharpie Jun 08 2006 09:13 PM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" RAMONES. "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" RAMONES "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" RAMONES. New York City really has it all. "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" Tie "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" GNR "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" RAMONES "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" RAMONES "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" RAMONES "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" RAMONES "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" RAMONES RAMONES 8.5 GUNS N ROSES 1.5 Fun trumps no fun every time.

Elster88 Jun 08 2006 09:14 PM

]I will admit that I'm selfishly bitter that Axl might be starting to get his shit together. We saw the last ever GNR show, at MSG a few years back. I was at that show too. It rocked.

Elster88 Jun 10 2006 01:06 AM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" - GNR "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" - GNR "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" - GNR "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" - GNR "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" - GNR "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" - GNR "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" - GNR "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" - GNR "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" - GNR "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" - GNR GNR - 10 Ramones - 0

sharpie Jun 10 2006 11:03 AM

Technically, this one should have ended Friday night (before Elster posted his whitewash) but since no one seems to have seen this one until Edgy posted his pix, this one will end on Monday at 4:04pm. Vote, people.

Elster88 Jun 10 2006 12:02 PM

I originally posted to hold the spot....didn't post the songs until the edit date, 3:15 on Thursday. So this one would've been open through the weekend anyways. It will close at 3:15 Monday.

Lenny Harris Jun 11 2006 07:24 PM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" Ramones "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" Ramones "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" Ramones "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" Ramones "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" Ramones "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" Ramones "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" Ramones "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" Ramones "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" Ramones "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" Ramones

Gwreck Jun 11 2006 07:31 PM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" Great top 4 of the lineup for both bands. They Tie on the first one. "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" Guns N Roses, with probably their best song. "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" Wow, tough call here. New York City really does have it all, and let's face it, artistic license noted, but I've been to West Lafayette, and it ain't pardise. To add insult to injury, I saw neither green grass nor pretty girls while there. Ramones "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" Wow, tough vote. Think I have to award the Tie again. "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" Ramones "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" Ramones "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" Ramones "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" Ramones "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" Ramones "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" Ramones Ramones Ramones 8-2. GnR could've definetly gotten more votes had they stacked their 4 best songs against weaker Ramones songs.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 12 2006 07:20 AM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" --Ramones. "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" --Guns "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" --Ramones "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" --Wow. Guns... "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" --Ramones "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" --Tie "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" --Good drug-song battle goes to the Ramones "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" --Ramones "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" --Ramones "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" --Guns Ramones 6.5, Guns 3.5

Edgy DC Jun 12 2006 09:21 AM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" Killer matchup. I’m going to go with the song that made me cry over the song that made me pogo… this time. Guns n’ Roses "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" “NR” is too self-consciously epic. Could you imagine how much you’d’ve hated “Stairway” if you first heard it as the lead single on a long awaited followup to a breakthrough, that was finally released as two separate albums because people are so desperate that you might as well make them pay twice? Yuck. Ramones. "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" Ramones by several laps. Several. "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" Ouch. Tie. "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" Ramones. I like the Spectre stuff. "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" Neither of these cranks my jalopy. The topicality of “Bonzo” dulls the incisive irony of the Ramones, and “Don’t Cry” has one of those doubletracked lead vocals that creeps me out. Call it a tie. "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" Another easy Ramoney win here. "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" We’ve classic Ramones changes in “We’re a Happy Family” along with Joey still articulate enough to handle a very staccato vocal. That beats head-bobbing arena rock — even with a soaring Lynyrd guitar line — any day. Marones. "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" Good try by Axl here, but “RnRHS” is tough to beat. Ramon Castros. "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" I’ll take the three-movement, drumless, bassless chick ballad here. “53rd and 3rd” has an uncharacteristic big dumb rawk beat and it’s a pretty budget sounding recording even by early Ramones standards. Guns n’ Roses Johnny Joey Dee Dee Marky Tommy CJ Ritchie et al. win 7-3.

Rockin' Doc Jun 12 2006 01:08 PM

I will need to brush up on a few of the Ramones cuts before I can vote later this evening.

metirish Jun 12 2006 02:58 PM

Guns are touring as part of the Download festival...it hits Dublin this weekend.. http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/lineup/index.asp

soupcan Jun 12 2006 03:08 PM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" RAMONES "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" RAMONES "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" RAMONES "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" RAMONES "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" RAMONES "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" RAMONES "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" RAMONES "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" RAMONES "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" RAMONES "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" RAMONES No contest. RAMONES - 10 / GUNS N' ROSES - 0

seawolf17 Jun 12 2006 03:09 PM

metirish wrote: Guns are touring as part of the Download festival...it hits Dublin this weekend.. http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/lineup/index.asp Just try to keep your bottles of [url=http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1328&Itemid=1]pee[/url] to yourself.

Willets Point Jun 12 2006 04:33 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 12 2006 04:43 PM

"Blitzkreig Bop" vs. "Sweet Child O' Mine" Ramones "Teenage Lobotomy" vs. "November Rain" Ramones "Sheena is a Punk Rocker" vs. "Paradise City" Ramones "Rockaway Beach" vs. "Welcome to the Jungle" Ramones "Do You Remember Rock 'n Roll Radio?" vs. "You Could Be Mine" Ramones "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" vs. "Don't Cry (original lyrics)" Ramones "I Wanna Be Sedated" vs. "Mr. Brownstone" Ramones "We're a Happy Family" vs. "Estranged" Ramones "Rock 'n Roll High School" vs. "Civil War" Ramones "53rd and 3rd" vs. "Patience" Ramones Ramones 10:0 Guns N' Roses

sharpie Jun 12 2006 04:38 PM

It should've closed but since Doc asked for more time, we can give it til this evening.

Rockin' Doc Jun 12 2006 11:30 PM

I appreciate you holding the voting open for me, but you might as well close the voting. I ended up doing paper work from the office all night and never got to brush up on a few tof the Ramones songs. At this point, it doesn't look like my vote will make much difference one way or the other. This one appears to be a landslide victory for the Ramones.

sharpie Jun 13 2006 08:49 AM

Ramones beat on Guns N' Roses with a baseball bat: 71.5-38.5 in a contest with (I think) a record 5 10-0 whitewashes.

Elster88 Jun 13 2006 08:55 AM

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seawolf17 Jun 13 2006 09:15 AM

Boo.

KC Jun 25 2006 06:38 PM

sea: >>>The Ramones used basically the same two chords over and over<<< No they didn't.