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metirish
Jun 20 2006 07:35 AM

I'm sure more than a few members remember this guy, cool article.

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Recalling the Time of the Signs at Shea



By VINCENT M. MALLOZZI
Published: June 18, 2006
One recent morning in Queens, Karl Ehrhardt walked over to his bedroom closet and unlocked the door to a dozen memories, every one of them in black and white.

Karl Ehrhardt, a k a the Sign Man at Shea Stadium in 1969.
Ehrhardt, 81, better known to fans of a certain vintage as the Sign Man of Shea, looked down at a pile of placards he once flashed in Flushing, bits of commentary designed to praise and inspire, or tease and rattle, the Mets and their opponents.

From 1964 to 1981, the Sign Man, dressed in a blue shirt and a black derby emblazoned with a Mets logo, responded on cue to much of the drama played out between the white lines. One summer day in 1979, the Sign Man followed a bouncing ball into and out of the glove of Mets shortstop Frank Taveras. The Sign Man showed no mercy:

"Look Ma, No Hands."

And whenever the journeyman Jose Cardenal struck out for the Mets, the Sign Man never failed to hoist:

"Jose, Can You See?"

"I just called them the way I saw them," Ehrhardt said.

A commercial artist from Queens who grew up in Brooklyn rooting for the Dodgers, Ehrhardt said he "adopted the Mets" in 1962, the year the franchise was born, five years after the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles.

When Shea Stadium opened in 1964, the Sign Man set up shop, running his business of baseball barbs from a box seat behind the third-base dugout. Long before television coverage and giant scoreboards became littered with never-ending distractions, the Sign Man was the only sideshow in town.

He took roughly 60 signs to each game; he once owned as many as 1,200, but only 12 remain. The letters were white paper spray-glued onto black cardboard measuring 20 inches high and 26 inches wide.

"Before I went to the ballpark, I would try to crystal-ball what might happen that particular day," said Ehrhardt, whose signs had color-coded tabs for different situations. "I would read all the newspapers to learn who was hot and who was in a slump, stuff like that, and create my signs accordingly."

One of his creations was the Frankenstein's monster sign, made specifically for weak hitters who rarely reached base. That sign screamed:

"It's Alive! It's Alive!"

Bob Mandt, a former Mets vice president for baseball operations, said of Ehrhardt: "Not all of the players were in love with him. It all depended on what he was putting up there."

But Mandt said that even M. Donald Grant, the team's chairman at the time, could appreciate one dig, four sad words on the state of the woeful Mets in August 1965:

"Welcome to Grant's Tomb."

By 1969, Ehrhardt had become a fixture at Shea. That year, when left fielder Cleon Jones squeezed the final out of the World Series in his glove, the Sign Man, too choked up to talk, reached into his bag of shticks and pulled out:

"There Are No Words."

In 1973, Grant and the Mets flew Ehrhardt and his wife, Lucille, to Oakland, Calif., for Games 6 and 7 of the World Series. After losing to the Athletics, the Mets allowed the Ehrhardts to fly back on their team charter — with Mayor John V. Lindsay on board as well. Every member of the team, including Tom Seaver and Willie Mays, autographed a sign that Ehrhardt had held proudly:

"Only the Beginning."

By 1981, Ehrhardt began noticing signs of changing times. He said that the Mets, who had become a laughingstock, were no longer inviting him to team functions.

"The front office was now run by new ownership, and they didn't like me criticizing the team," he said. "They turned their backs on me, so I just packed up my signs and went home."

But in August 2002, the Mets asked Mandt, now a team consultant, to persuade Ehrhardt to return to help celebrate the franchise's 40th anniversary. Ehrhardt attended a game between the Mets and his once beloved Dodgers.

At that game, he held this message high for fans of a certain vintage:

"The Sign Man Lives."

E-mail: cheers@nytimes.com





http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/18/sports/baseball/18cheer.html

Edgy DC
Jun 20 2006 07:40 AM

Fanfreakingtastic.

Karl Ehrhardt for the Mets Hall of Fame NOW!!!!

MFS62
Jun 20 2006 07:43 AM

I recall that when the team held a promotion to name the "25 best Mets fans" the club left his name off the list. That was the final straw that drove him away.

Later

Elster88
Jun 20 2006 07:44 AM

That's cool.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 20 2006 07:45 AM

Cool article. I had no idea that he returned for one game in 2002.

If When the Mets are in the playoffs this year, they should give him field level boxes and let him come in with a collection of signs.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 20 2006 07:59 AM

Thought he was dead

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 20 2006 08:00 AM

Not at the present time.

SteveJRogers
Jun 20 2006 10:29 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
Thought he was dead


Reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated

SteveJRogers
Jun 20 2006 10:32 AM

MFS62 wrote:
I recall that when the team held a promotion to name the "25 best Mets fans" the club left his name off the list. That was the final straw that drove him away.

Later


I think this guy won

[url]http://www.farrockaway.com/metsnumberonefan.html[/url]

RealityChuck
Jun 20 2006 11:40 AM

Ehrhardt certainly deserved the title of greatest Mets fan. I remember "There Are No Words," and he was as much a part of the team as Mr. Met. The management treated him very badly.

soupcan
Jun 20 2006 12:20 PM

SteveJRogers wrote:
I think this guy won

[url]http://www.farrockaway.com/metsnumberonefan.html[/url]



That guy could certainly be 'shortest, bestest Mets fan'. What is he - like 4 feet?

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 20 2006 12:29 PM

An Ed Kranepool memory from the UMDB:
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Tunis35
February 24, 2006
I was at Modell's on E 42nd St in Manhattan just before the Subway Series in 2000 and Modell's was having a contest for the best all time Mets fan. The judge was Ed Kranepool. I made the finals along with the old women who used to sit behind home plate and spin her arms in a circle. First prize was a $500 gift certificate, a television appearance with the greatest Yankee fan and tickets to all the games. I dressed up in Mets glasses, a Mets beach shirt, had on blue and orange sneakers and sang the song Meet the Mets. I had the the entire audience, which was quite large, singing and dancing and by far got the biggest applause. The older lady then got up and in a barely audible voice said "I love the Mets" and spun her arms in a circle. Much to the disbelief of everyone in attendance, Ed Kranepool awarded her first prize. He got booed out of the store. I later found out from the store manager that the women also babysat for several of the Mets players. After 6 years I've been waiting to to tell this story and state the following; "Drop Dead Ed". How sad that one of our most loved Mets would cheat and fix a contest. What a creep.

metirish
Jun 20 2006 12:33 PM

Tunis35 took that a bit hard, an old woman wins that contest all the time.

soupcan
Jun 20 2006 12:38 PM

Dude - the arm spinning lady with the stupid hat and christmas ornament Met earrings.

Of course she's gonna win. Besides they had to throw her a bone after she got eminent-domained out of her front row seats.

Dumbass Tunis35.

SteveJRogers
Jun 20 2006 01:06 PM

Actually thats part of the problem with all of these "Greatest Met Fan Ever" contest, because its only the well known that get all the glory. And how are we judging "Well known"

I said this before on the same type of thread, but how do we differentiate Sign Guy from, Doris From Rego Park who was known because of her calls to WFAN, or a Jonathan Weissman who was known because he had an early form of a blog on the internet, but they are only known to those who listen to WFAN and those who follow the Internet Met Community but if you asked the average Met fan that wouldn't know WFAN from a fan company, or MetsOnline.net from the Sports New York Network TV channel they wouldn't have a clue who Doris was or who Professor Jon Weissman currently teaching math somewhere in Staten Island was

So the guy that nominates that guy sitting two rows in back of them, section 18 in the Mezz Reserve seat 4 because he's at all 81 home games plus a bunch of road games and comes up with great comments and cheers, whos to say that complete anonymous fan shouldn't belong as well? In other words why have something like this in the first place?

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 20 2006 01:23 PM

SteveJRogers wrote:
In other words why have something like this in the first place?


Because it's not about honoring the best fan, it's about getting people to go to Modell's. (Or whoever's hosting the contest du jour.)

soupcan
Jun 20 2006 01:35 PM

What Yancy said.

Plus - who gives a crap anyway?

SteveJRogers
Jun 20 2006 01:38 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
="SteveJRogers"]In other words why have something like this in the first place?


Because it's not about honoring the best fan, it's about getting people to go to Modell's. (Or whoever's hosting the contest du jour.)


True, I was mostly referring to the Mets Fans Hall of Fame or 25 Best Fans gimmick promotion

Which reminds me, shouldn't Met fans who parlayed their fandom into a career and/or hobby be counted above people like Sign Guy? I.e. you, JD, Bryan Hoch who now runs Inside Pitch for crying out loud (no longer official but still going) or Howie Rose and Gary Cohen both of whom spent many a night (I know Rose did, not sure if Cohen did the same) recorded themselves in the stands "broadcasting" the game

Are you saying Rose and Cohen don't get special consideration as "Ultimate Met Fans" since they both have made a career out of broadcasting for the team they grew up rooting for? That counts in my book actually

Ditto for anyone who creates encylopedic websites dedicated to Met knowledge, wheither its essentailly an on-line media guide (UMDB) or a list of every uniform number in Met history (MBTN)

Elster88
Jun 20 2006 01:39 PM

soupcan wrote:
who gives a crap anyway?


I didn't want to be the one to say it.

SteveJRogers
Jun 20 2006 01:55 PM

="soupcan"]What Yancy said.

Plus - who gives a crap anyway?


Thats kind of where I was going, essentially too many different groups would want their friend/relative/whatever to be the "Biggest/Ultimate/Greatest/Whatever Fan" that any of these things get rendered meaningless

Of course old ladies (especially those who have/had friends in high places) and peeps with disabilites will get the nod over the regular joes, otherwise you look like mean old bastards!

And to Tunis35



Can't Google a screen cap of Steve Buchemi doing it in Res Dogs, but that is the Worlds Smallest Violin for ya bub!

Zvon
Jun 20 2006 04:00 PM

It is great to hear about Karl again.
I for one am really glad he's still with us.

And there is no doubt he should be recognized officially by the Mets as one of the best fans in the teams history.
#1 in my book.
He did write up barbs for and against the Mets, but in those early days you HAD to have a sense of humor.
Bottomline: he was very entertaining.

cleonjones11
Jun 20 2006 08:50 PM

Karl Erhardt was as much of the 69 Mets as anything in NYC... which reminds me anyone got reruns of Bob Murphys' Bowling for Dollars stinton channel 9 ?

Cleon

Elster88
Jun 21 2006 06:50 AM

There's a dude who sits in the field section waaaaay out in right field in fair territory that is trying to be the sign man.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 21 2006 06:57 AM

I spotted him on TV during last night's game. One sign I remember read "Oooops!"

If I was a full season ticket holder, I'd consider picking up the Sign Man's torch. I'd make it a real tribute to him, though. I'd use the same orange block letters on a black background. I'd even try to get a similar funny little hat.

Edgy DC
Jun 21 2006 08:07 AM

Did the last Sign Man's reign end? Did he get busted on for "Looser" and go quietly at the end of the year?

DocTee
Jun 21 2006 08:21 AM

]That guy could certainly be 'shortest, bestest Mets fan'. What is he - like 4 feet?


Cut him some slack, dude, the guy's got spina bifida-- read the Inside Pitch excerpt on the page SteveJ linked.