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IGT 6/27/06 - Mets at Red Sox

Gwreck Jun 27 2006 05:48 PM

New York Mets Reyes SS LoDuca C Beltran CF Delgado 1B Wright 3B Franco DH Nady RF Woodward 2B Milledge LF Soler P =red]Boston Red Sox Kevin Youkilis 1B Mark Loretta 2B David Ortiz DH Manny Ramirez LF Trot Nixon RF Jason Varitek C Mike Lowell 3B Coco Crisp CF Alex Gonzalez SS Jon Lester P

KC Jun 27 2006 06:04 PM

Dang, you're quick ...

Gwreck Jun 27 2006 06:09 PM

Got a call from a friend at the game. Didn't see them posted online yet...

Gwreck Jun 27 2006 07:19 PM

It must look different from the base because it sure didn't look like Lester's pickoff move was anything special -- but Beltran looked bad getting picked off.

TheOldMole Jun 27 2006 07:39 PM

46 pitches in the first inning is not what you most want to see.

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 07:40 PM

40+ pitches latah...Solah gets out of the 1st. 2-0 Red Sawks

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 07:42 PM

Cahlos goes KAHBOOM!!! Nah, the othah one. 2-1 Sawks.

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 07:56 PM

Dammit.

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 07:59 PM

Mahk Loretter with an AhBI single in the second. 3-1 Bahston.

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 08:13 PM

In Game injury report from ESPN: Longtime ESPN Baseball analyst Peter Gammons suffered an aneurysm in his brain Tuesday morning near his home on Cape Cod, Mass. He was airlifted to a Boston hospital, where he is currently undergoing surgery.

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 08:20 PM

Beltran with an awesome AB, working 10+ pitch walk after going down 0-2. Delgado and Wright need to make it count now.

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 08:25 PM

Bases loaded, 2 out for Father Time. Early, but I'm on edge.

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 08:28 PM

Only one out actually. Whoops.

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 08:29 PM

Another walk. Excellent. But now it's Nady in a bad Nady spot. 3-2 Beantown

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 08:30 PM

Jahn Lestah wahlks in a run with the bases loaded. 3-2 Sawks, Mets still batting.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 08:31 PM

TransMonk wrote: In Game injury report from ESPN: Longtime ESPN Baseball analyst Peter Gammons suffered an aneurysm in his brain Tuesday morning near his home on Cape Cod, Mass. He was airlifted to a Boston hospital, where he is currently undergoing surgery. Jeez. really?

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 08:31 PM

I think Nady's AVG with the bases loaded may be a negative number.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 08:32 PM

So it is. Damn. Love the accent Monk, keep it up yaheah

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 08:32 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2006 08:33 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Jeez. really? Yeah...too serious to joke about...although I can think of some good ones. [url]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2502295[/url]

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 08:33 PM

uyuh.

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 08:33 PM

Ugh, Woodward Ks. He's ice cold right now. Mets score 1, strand 3. Soler gotta keep Boston from putting more runs up.

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 08:41 PM

Mahk Lahretter on fire. Shoots a double off the mahnstah. Ortiz get a free pass. Bahston trying for anothah 2 out rally. The dimensions of Fenway seem to be intimidating the Mets defensively.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 08:41 PM

That's awful news about Gammons. One of the shameful episodes in Internet/baseball history was the way they tried to blow holes in him, even if they had a point, and even if I joined in, as least as a side-taker, at least initially. That wasn't a pretty play, Lastings.

seawolf17 Jun 27 2006 08:41 PM

Ugly.

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 08:41 PM

Oh for the love of god. Milledge completely lost an inning-ending fly out. That just sucks for us.

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 08:43 PM

Mothah Love Bone...this sucks.

seawolf17 Jun 27 2006 08:43 PM

Wow, that sucks about Gammons. I always enjoy his stuff. Too bad they made his columns only available through the Insider on espn.com.

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 08:44 PM

TransMonk wrote: Mothah Love Bone...this sucks. So Milledge wasn't a Man of Golden Gloves there, huh?

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 08:48 PM

That's weak Milledge, but it beats whiffing .

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 08:50 PM

Not to second guess...but if I was Willie I would of thought of starting Valentin in left. A rookie against the wall in left at Fenway wouldn't have been my choice.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 08:55 PM

Why didn't he slide?

seawolf17 Jun 27 2006 08:55 PM

SHIT.

seawolf17 Jun 27 2006 08:56 PM

Why'd he send him? Bad call. I know he's fast, but you gotta hold him with one out.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 08:57 PM

Dumb plays all over the place tonight.

OlerudOwned Jun 27 2006 08:58 PM

Just a bruised rib. I'm going to repeat that over and over to myself. But damn was Acta overcahnfident in Reyes' speed.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 27 2006 08:59 PM

There's a lot of really ugly half-swings against Lester tonight. Awful news about Gammons. I hope he gets okay and gets there quickly. I always liked his stuff and dug how he'd drop cool alt-rock references in his pieces. Gammo jammin' with Buffalo Tom:

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 09:00 PM

Loaded for Wright vs. a tired left-hander. Won't get much better for us, situation-wise.

seawolf17 Jun 27 2006 09:01 PM

COME ON, DAVID.

seawolf17 Jun 27 2006 09:04 PM

Frig.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 09:04 PM

Fuckshitshitshitfuckcockcuntmotherfuckerbastrardshitfuck

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 09:06 PM

Ahh..fah the love ah... Wright K's...going to the bahtom of the 5th...5-2 Bahston.

Elster88 Jun 27 2006 09:08 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: That's awful news about Gammons. Agreed. A good guy.

Gwreck Jun 27 2006 09:09 PM

This is a really fucking ugly game. Nady. Milledge. Soler. Wright. FUCK!

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 09:10 PM

The hits just keep on coming. Mike Lowell goes yahd off the Coke bottles. 6-2 Sawks.

Gwreck Jun 27 2006 09:13 PM

Mr. Randolph to the yellow courtesy phone. Paging Mr. Randolph. GET HIM THE FUCK OUT OF THERE!

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 09:16 PM

This has officially become the worst game of the year. For posterity: Milledge falls down on a routine fly ball, two runs score. Milledge pussies his way on base by taking a ball off the armor. Reyes hits into a couldabeen DP, only to reach base on a failed transfer, only to break his back two batters later after getting foolishly sent home and sliding terribly. Wright later whiffs with the bags juiced and two outs against a cocky rookie's 150th pitch, and Soler comes out to summarily allow 3 runs, the last two on a ball that landed somewhere in New Hampshire. Bugglyfuckscumbag

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 09:20 PM

If we had Jeter, he could will us back into the game.

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 09:21 PM

Let's see how good we can make Julian Tavarez look.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 09:26 PM

He just entered the game. Why is his hat filthy?

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 09:35 PM

Sitdown Big Pap...you're good at it.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 09:46 PM

No. Among the indignities tonight, you are not taking Jose's hotness.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 09:48 PM

Car-blam-os.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 09:49 PM

We Ka-call that Ka-Boom, Ka-Julian.

TransMonk Jun 27 2006 09:49 PM

Cahlos goes KAHBOOM! Nah, the athah one. 8-3 Sawks in the 7th.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 09:56 PM

Heath Bell: Stoppah.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 10:02 PM

And a guy we might need more of, depending on how well your boyfriend bounces back.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 10:03 PM

X-Man: Monster Masher.

Gwreck Jun 27 2006 10:05 PM

Edgy DC wrote: X-Man: Monster Masher. That was Marerro, pinch-hitting.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 10:08 PM

I suppose Xy was hurting after that HBP.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 10:09 PM

Pay attention, Edgy.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 10:13 PM

What a sloppy inning. Ortiz is on first, but he'd have scored if he had any wheels at all.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 10:16 PM

B ring ack ell!

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 10:17 PM

Well look. Winning this one is a tall order but let's at last have 'em work up a sweat. Make Papelbomb warm up.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 10:19 PM

Timlin has the same dirt smudge on his hat that Taverez had on his. This is like that scar all GI Joes -- regardless of blonde, black or red hair -- had. Black GI Joe too.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 10:20 PM

Let's go, Jose. Five-run homer this inning.

Edgy DC Jun 27 2006 10:23 PM

Thanks for the ride, Jose.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 10:23 PM

fuckshit. Lousy game.

Nymr83 Jun 27 2006 10:24 PM

we ran into a team on fire, oh well. i'll be happy to take 1 from them and the friday game with MFYs to end june 17-10.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 27 2006 10:26 PM

Nymr83 wrote: we ran into a team on fire, oh well. i'll be happy to take 1 from them and the friday game with MFYs to end june 17-10. F that. Had 7 8 9 or 1 batters done anything (till Marrerro's PH) in this game, Beltran not get picked off and Milledge make that catch, we'd have been right with 'em.

Frayed Knot Jun 27 2006 10:32 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2006 09:51 AM

Even semi-blowouts can turn on a handful of ABs or plays made/not made: - Varitek getting the 2-strike/2-out hit w/the bags loaded in the 1st - Wright & Nady & Wodward NOT getting hits in same/similar spots - Milledge mis-playing the potential inning-ending Manny fly after we pitched around Papi - Sending Reyes on the short single ... which fortunately was bad only for to-night and not two-months Those ABs were all 1 & 2 run turn-arounds just on their own and who knows what else they lead to. Change the result a couple of those (yeah if my aunt had balls ... ) and it's a completely different game.

Gwreck Jun 27 2006 10:32 PM

I don't know if it was worse than the loss to the MFYs but it was definetly one of the 5 worst losses of this year. FUCK!

Willets Point Jun 28 2006 12:19 AM

Well, that sucked. My ticket said "obstructed view" but when I sat down in my seat before the game I had a clear, albeit awkward view of the field. Then the game started and all the fans came forth out of the tunnel and right into my line of view. And they kept on coming and going and coming and going the whole game, and usually stopped dead right in front of me whenever something interesting happened (sometimes so they could take pictures with the Pesky Pole). I swear over the 10 years I've been attending games at Fenway the fans have increasingly gotten mass ADD and can't stay in their fucking seats. Worst. Seat. Ever. I would have rather sat behind a steel beam. The game sucked too. How many runners were put out at the plate? How many bases loaded situations did the Mets squander? What the hell was wrong with Milledge on that fly? I do love that Franco was DH. It was a flashback to when interleague play first began (10 seasons ago!) when Bobby V always had Matt Franco as DH. The pre-game tribute to the 2006 AL Champs was nice. It was good to see the likes of Dwight Evans, Jim Rice and Wade Boggs on the field again as well as guys I haven't heard of in 20 years. Buckner got a standing O in absentia. Also after the first inning they welcomed Pedro back with a video tribute and then the fans gave him a standing ovation for a minute or so. Very classy. Lots of Mets fans in attendance and a few people wearing gear of both teams. I think I sat next to Yankess fans although its hard to tell because they were quiet and polite. I hope the next game I attend Thursday is better both in my seating and in the final score.

Elster88 Jun 28 2006 09:02 AM

I hold my breath every time Reyes slides headfirst, so I usually have the hiccups by the third inning. Of course the one time he (almost) got hurt was the time he went in feet first. Ronnie and Keith were right. It's probably less dangerous to just crash into him then to slide into his shin guards.

MFS62 Jun 28 2006 09:42 AM

In an interview with Ed Coleman before the game, Mike Francessa noticed that Lastings would be starting in left field and wondered why he wasn't out there learning to "play the wall". How prophetic. Gotta' give Mike some props on this one. Later

metirish Jun 28 2006 09:45 AM

Fukc Francesa, Lastings made one bad play off the wall and it cost the Mets, I'm more concerned with Soler making shit pitches....

Edgy DC Jun 28 2006 09:56 AM

If we're talking about the bad ricochet off the scoreboard, was more concerned with Beltran's positioning. You don't know where the ball's going, you figure the first guy there is positioned for the ball to die, the second guy --- the backup --- should be looking for the long rebound. Beltran was right on top of Milledge. No biggie. A bad bounce is a bad bounce, but if you're looking to blame someone, Milledge doesn't jump to mind. Missing a fly ball, on the other hand...

SteveJRogers Jun 28 2006 10:02 AM

metirish wrote: Fukc Francesa, Lastings made one bad play off the wall and it cost the Mets, I'm more concerned with Soler making shit pitches.... Yeah but that wall is infamous for being tricky to play off of.

Edgy DC Jun 28 2006 10:07 AM

Am I thinking of the wrong play?

old original jb Jun 28 2006 10:07 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2006 10:14 AM

Ugly game. Glad I missed it. I caught the recap and really enjoyed seeing Mookie Wilson, Keith Hernandez, and Ron Darling do the post game together. I'm not so upset about Reyes running--in order to have a player be as agressive as he is, you have to tolerate some mistakes both from him and the third base coach. That even involves some risk of injury. Carlos Beltran misplaying a ball can be attributed to "even very good players occasionally make errors" with no repercussions beyond that. The three things about the game that I find disquieting: 1) Soler is starting to establish himself in my mind as an inconsistent pitcher who can either be brilliant or dismal depending on I don't know what, and I also fear that this will get worse as the leagues get to know him. 2) It is a bad precedent to have one of your worst games of the year against a potential postseason opponent. 3) The Lastings drama keeps playing on. For the record, no matter how inconsequential his misplay might have been, Lastings should have taken the time to learn the wall. Someone should have made sure he did it if it didn't occur to him--and at this point he should be pestering other players to find out what opportunities there are to practice and demonstrate a good work ethic, and to learn more about the game.

metirish Jun 28 2006 10:09 AM

Do we have only Francesa as a source that Milledge didn't "learn" to play the wall?.

old original jb Jun 28 2006 10:16 AM

metirish wrote: Do we have only Francesa as a source that Milledge didn't "learn" to play the wall?. No. Mookie, Keith, and Ron discussed it after the game as well. Unless they got it from Francesa. Milledge is truly demonstrating the risk of letting a kid make his mistakes in front of the cameras. To his credit, he seems to have enough confidence to let it roll off him. The only worry is if he has so much confidence that he also lets the good advice of senior players, coaches, and managers roll off as well.

metirish Jun 28 2006 10:19 AM

Thanks jb, I didn't watch the post-game stuff.

TransMonk Jun 28 2006 10:22 AM

metirish wrote: Do we have only Francesa as a source that Milledge didn't "learn" to play the wall?. I saw him flub a routine fly ball he should have caught because he didn't know where the wall was. Even if he did learn, he should do it again. To be fair, he played a carom off the wall very well early in the game...before he came no where near second base trying to throw the runner out at second.

Edgy DC Jun 28 2006 10:28 AM

]No. Mookie, Keith, and Ron discussed it after the game as well. Of course, with the Mets down 2-0 after two losses at home in 1986, Davey Johnson surprisingly gave the team a day off from practice before game three at Fenway. "Don't you think you should have Mookie working out in left and learning to play the Wall?" the media asked. (I'm recalling and summarizing "No. I think they need to get rested and refocused." I think a lot is made of the wall by the media who've mythologized it. And a lot is made by the likes of Francesa to seek a moral reason behind every failure. That said, I'm crying out for Cliffy.

metirish Jun 28 2006 10:30 AM

Well maybe they should play Chavez in LF tonight, Willie did say that the fly ball Milledge mis-played was probably the highest ball he ever saw...Lastings that is.

MFS62 Jun 28 2006 10:41 AM

] think a lot is made of the wall by the media who've mythologized it. And a lot is made by the likes of Francesa to seek a moral reason behind every failure. He made the comment before the game. Later

Elster88 Jun 28 2006 10:45 AM

Here's some perfect 20-20 hindsight: why didn't Valentin start at second?

TransMonk Jun 28 2006 10:47 AM

Elster88 wrote: Here's some perfect 20-20 hindsight: why didn't Valentin start at second? I don't think you'll like my speculative answer: Yesterday was Woodward's birthday.

Yancy Street Gang Jun 28 2006 10:50 AM

Hell, if it was his birthday Willie should have let Woodward bat cleanup! And play centerfield! Everyone should be able to pretend to be Willie Mays on their birthday!

Johnny Dickshot Jun 28 2006 10:52 AM

He wanted as many RHBs as possible to pepper the Monster and hit the LHP. Valentin still switches but I guess not as comfy vs. LH.

Hillbilly Jun 28 2006 11:10 AM

2nd base is being run almost as a straight up L/R platoon by Willie. Cheer up Met fans. The 2006 version of the Mets tends to bounce right back after nasty loses like this. It's Pedro's night. Let's see what he brings to the mound!!

metirish Jun 28 2006 11:12 AM

I don't know if taking fly balls is learning the wall but this is from the Times... ] The height of the wall was not Milledge's problem. The wind current, which can be affected by the wall's height, is what really bothered him. Milledge said the ball was blown toward the left-field line, then back toward the field. Milledge had taken fly balls before the game, but batting practice could not prepare him for the height of the drive by Manny Ramírez. Because the ball took so long to fall back to earth, Milledge had plenty of time to psych himself out.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2006 11:14 AM

It was also a ridiculously windy day in Boston (and NY) yesterday.

Edgy DC Jun 28 2006 11:16 AM

="Yancy Street Gang"]Hell, if it was his birthday Willie should have let Woodward bat cleanup! And play centerfield! Everyone should be able to pretend to be Willie Mays on their birthday! Worked for Jim Beauchamp.

Willets Point Jun 28 2006 12:11 PM

Forgot to mention that for the first couple of innings last night the scoreboard listed the Mets pitcher as "Solar." Then the sun set. It's raining in Boston. I'm secretly hoping the game is postponed and Pedro pitches tomorrow night when I go back to Fenway. I'm selfish that way.

Elster88 Jun 28 2006 12:25 PM

It makes no sense that the following quote evokes emotion in me. But I feel like a proud father when I read nice things like this about David Wright from fans of other teams. It happens with Reyes too. Maybe because Wright is the first stud (with Reyes being a potential-stud or almost-there-stud.) to come up through the farm who is younger than me. I'm assuming the feeling is "pride in offspring" anyway. I have no kids. ] QUOTE(NYCSox @ Jun 28 2006, 12:17 AM)I'm not going to lie, I was terrified when David came up in that spot. He destroys LHP at the tune of a 1.150 OPS. But after what Seanez did yesterday with the bases loaded, I couldn't condone bringing in Tavarez. I'll take my chances with the kid. I don't think anyone was comfortable during that at bat, especially when Wright started fouling off pitches left and right... well, mostly left, since he was pulling rockets into the seats off of left field. But given the choice between a tiring Lester and Tavarez with the bases loaded against one of the best hitters in the game right now... I think most of us go with Lester.

Edgy DC Jun 28 2006 01:03 PM

There's a monster on the field I approach it then I yield When they hit it with a ball I don't know where it will fall Saying -Oh no! A monster! Oh no! A monster! Oh, no, oh no, oh no, a giant monster ! Monster! Ahh! Monster! Ohh! Oh no, a giant monster! Let me through the bullpen door Don't wanna see that monster no more Let me through the bullpen door Don't wanna see that monster no more There's a monster at the park All the balls have made their mark When that wall comes into play It can really wreck your day Take that, monster! Take that, monster! Take it! take it! Take that you awful thing! Take that! AAAAH! Take that aaaah... Take that you naughty thing! Yazstremski and Jim Rice Learned to play it kinda nice Buit I avoid the AL East To protect me from the beast Monster! Monster! Oh gee, a huge green monster! There's a monster way up high And it towers to the sky When the ball is heading there All the people stop and stare The guys give a yell (uuuuh!) And the girls make their sound(AAAH!) When they see its ricochets And the fielder falling down! (Gosh will you look at that thang!) (And I thought dinosaurs were extinct!)

soupcan Jun 28 2006 04:25 PM

Home after a long day on an Amtrack Acela that was delayed after some trees came down across the wires east of Guilford, CT. Except for that game totally sucking eggs last night I had a blast. Sat in the front row of a rightfield roofbox seat which was fine except the seats are not angled toward the plate and my neck still hurts. Two guys on my left (season ticket holders) were not thrilled when they saw my Mets hat but over the course of the game my winning personality won them over. They said it was nice to know that not all New York baseball fans are assholes. Glad I could help. The '86 Red Sox team tribute was cool. Dwight Evans and Rice got the biggest hands (Dewey should talk to Keith about some discounts on the 'Just for Men'). From where I sat (and saw) Beltran badly misplayed that long fly to center in the 1st. A routine fly that should've simply backed him up to the wall and definitely should've been caught. Milledge was just friggin' lost on his play. With all the renovations and additions they've made to Fenway over the years, the new parks have really got nothing on it. Except for the angled seats of course. LOTS of Mets fans. I think the Sox fans were taken a back at how many Mets fans there were. Listening to WEEI is always a trip. I guess on Monday night they replayed Game 6 but gave it an alternate ending so the Sox won. How lame is that? Get over it already. Knock, knock, you guys finally won one remember? Fenway's great. If you've never been you're missing something special. Go see a game there....NOW!!!

Johnny Dickshot Jun 28 2006 04:34 PM

]Two guys on my left (season ticket holders) were not thrilled when they saw my Mets hat but over the course of the game my winning personality won them over. They said it was nice to know that not all New York baseball fans are assholes. Glad I could help. Wait a second... aren't you really an asshole?

Willets Point Jun 28 2006 04:34 PM

You must have been right above me.

soupcan Jun 28 2006 04:44 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Wait a second... aren't you really an asshole? Yeah, I guess I fooled them. ="Willets Point"]You must have been right above me. I was right in line with the pole, to the right of the Budweiser pavilion, Delgado's HR landed in front of me to the right.

Willets Point Jun 28 2006 04:55 PM

Yup. Me too. You could have spat on me. Glad you didn't.