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IGT - NY Mets @ Boston Redsox - 6/29/06 Keep The Faith!

SteveJRogers Jun 29 2006 03:17 PM

From Bon Jovi's album of the same name: MOTHER, MOTHER TELL YOUR CHILDREN THAT THEIR TIME HAS JUST BEGUN I HAVE SUFFERED FOR MY ANGER THERE ARE WARS THAT CAN'T BE WON FATHER, FATHER PLEASE BELIEVE ME I AM LAYING DOWN MY GUNS I AM BROKEN LIKE AN ARROW FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE YOUR WAYWARD SON EVERYBODY NEEDS SOMEBODY TO LOVE (MOTHER, MOTHER) EVERYBODY NEEDS SOMEBODY TO HATE (FATHER, FATHER) EVERYBODY'S BITCHING 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T GET ENOUGH AND IT'S HARD TO HOLD ON WHEN THERE'S NO ONE TO LEAN ON CHORUS: FAITH: YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA LIVE THROUGH THE RAIN LORD, YOU GOT TO KEEP THE FAITH FAITH: DON'T YOU LET YOUR LOVE TURN TO HATE RIGHT NOW WE GOT TO KEEP THE FAITH KEEP THE FAITH, KEEP THE FAITH, KEEP THE FAITH LORD, WE GOT TO KEEP THE FAITH TELL ME BABY, WHEN I HURT YOU DO YOU KEEP IT ALL INSIDE DO YOU TELL ME ALL'S FORGIVEN AND THEN HIDE BEHIND YOUR PRIDE EVERYBODY NEEDS SOMEBODY TO LOVE (MOTHER, MOTHER) EVERYBODY NEEDS SOMEBODY TO HATE (PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME) EVERYBODY'S BLEEDING 'CAUSE THE TIMES ARE TOUGH WELL IT'S HARD TO BE STRONG WHEN THERE'S NO ONE TO DREAM ON CHORUS: FAITH: YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA LIVE THROUGH THE RAIN LORD YOU GOT TO KEEP THE FAITH NOW YOU KNOW IS NOT TOO LATE OH, YOU GOT TO KEEP THE FAITH FAITH: DON'T LET YOUR LOVE TURN TO HATE RIGHT NOW WE GOT TO KEEP THE FAITH, KEEP THE FAITH, KEEP THE FAITH LORD WE GOT TO KEEP THE FAITH WALKING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF SOCIETY'S LIES I DON'T LIKE WHAT I SEE NO MORE, SOMETIMES I WISH THAT I WAS BLIND SOMETIMES I WAIT FOREVER TO STAND OUT IN THE RAIN SO NO ONE SEES ME CRYIN', TRYING TO WASH AWAY THE PAIN (MOTHER, MOTHER) THERE'S THINGS I'VE DONE I CAN'T ERASE EVERY NIGHT WE FALL FROM GRACE IT'S HARD WITH THE WORLD IN YOUR FACE TRYING TO HOLD ON, TRYING TO HOLD ON CHORUS OUT

metirish Jun 29 2006 03:43 PM

WOW....

seawolf17 Jun 29 2006 03:53 PM

THAT'S A CRAZY LOOKING STARTING LINEUP. WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?

Hillbilly Jun 29 2006 03:57 PM

Bon Jovi - YIKES.

metirish Jun 29 2006 04:16 PM

Here is the Redsox lineup.. Red Sox 1. Kevin Youkilis, 1B 2. Mark Loretta, 2B 3. David Ortiz, DH 4. Manny Ramirez, LF 5. Mike Lowell, 3B 6. Jason Varitek, C 7. Coco Crisp, CF 8. Gabe Kapler, RF 9. Alex Gonzalez, SS -- Curt Schilling, SP

Willets Point Jun 29 2006 04:22 PM

Gabe Kapler, Welcome Back.

Elster88 Jun 29 2006 04:25 PM

I woulda gone with Welcome Back Kapler.

Willets Point Jun 29 2006 04:28 PM

Didn't want to be too obvious.

Nymr83 Jun 29 2006 04:41 PM

uhoh they've got two jews in their lineup, we're screwed! time to avoid the sweep!

KC Jun 29 2006 04:52 PM

Nevermind the Jews, BON JOVI LYRICS IN CAPS IS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME WANT TO JUST FORFEIT AND HEAD TO THE BRONX.

Willets Point Jun 29 2006 04:53 PM

Nymr83 wrote: uhoh they've got two jews in their lineup, we're screwed! time to avoid the sweep! Are they the Chosen Team? I'm off to Fenway. Thunderstorms predicted for tonight. I may end up soaked.

KC Jun 29 2006 04:56 PM

Root 'em in Willet. I've been thinking of one of those sausage and peppers subs they sell out- side Fenway for three days now. Is Boston Beer Works still open?

Nymr83 Jun 29 2006 05:21 PM

why did someone post that assclown avatar for kc? i laugh everytime he posts now...

soupcan Jun 29 2006 05:21 PM

Delgado not playing tonight - injured rib cage. Chavez in left, Millege in right, Wright is the DH. I'm guessing Woody at 3rd? Yeesh.

Gwreck Jun 29 2006 05:25 PM

I'd be tempted to put Chavez in left and Marerro in right, but given that today might be Lastings' last game in the majors for a while, guess he gets the start. Woodward at third, yes. He and Valentin are the only potential backups there.

Gwreck Jun 29 2006 05:28 PM

Reyes SS LoDuca C Beltran CF Wright DH Valentin 2B Franco 1B Chavez LF Woodward 3B Milledge RF Only good thing is that Wright hits about .700 in the cleanup spot.

soupcan Jun 29 2006 05:30 PM

Gwreck wrote: Woodward at third, yes. He and Valentin are the only potential backups there. I thought maybe Willie might put Valentin at 3rd and Woody at 2B.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 05:38 PM

Well, that's not the strongest lineup WWSB ever trotted out there, even last year.

Nymr83 Jun 29 2006 06:08 PM

Delgado, Floyd, Nady missing from the "regulars" but we've still got Wright, Beltran, a muchly improved Reyes, and the redhot Valentin... so this is still better than anything we threw out there last year.

Frayed Knot Jun 29 2006 06:32 PM

8 times this year we've lost 2 straight - and so far we're 8-0 in that position. Which means .... absolutely nothing.

SteveJRogers Jun 29 2006 06:43 PM

Thats how it was formatted in the site I cut and pasted it from. As for the KC Assclown, ZVon found it and KC took it for his avatar over the weekend. I forget who it was in regards to, but someone was mentioning shooting an ass clown and Z made a back-to-back image thing of it

TransMonk Jun 29 2006 06:53 PM

Already on page 2 before the game starts...good sign, I like it.

seawolf17 Jun 29 2006 07:01 PM

Gwreck wrote: Only good thing is that Wright hits about .700 in the cleanup spot. 30 for 69 (.435), 5 HR. .512 OBP, .768 SLG. Nice.

MFS62 Jun 29 2006 07:07 PM

seawolf17 wrote: ="Gwreck"]Only good thing is that Wright hits about .700 in the cleanup spot. 30 for 69 (.435), 5 HR. .512 OBP, .768 SLG. Nice. But anyone have any numbers on how he does as a pinch hitter? His role tonight will be similar to that - four (hopefully six) times. I'd guess because he has been a regular since he joined the team, he probably doesn't have much more then 10 at bats, and that may have been in his first year. He may be one of those players who needs to play the field in order to get his juices flowing. Later

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:08 PM

HaHaHa..Great opening post to the IGT Mr. Rogers. We gotta change it up a lil bit and shake up this team. Get it started Jose!

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:11 PM

Bunts and reaches--makin it happen!

Hillbilly Jun 29 2006 07:11 PM

Reyes on. Speed kills.

Gwreck Jun 29 2006 07:12 PM

Jose was safe even without the throw being dropped.

Hillbilly Jun 29 2006 07:15 PM

Live by speed die by speed. Reyes out on the SB attempt.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:15 PM

Whew--we got the call there. Shilling picks off Reyes and we get the safe call. And Reyes jams his fingers. LoDuke pops out and Shills holding Reyes on gets dividends as Reyes tries to steal second and is thrown out by a healthy margin.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:17 PM

Mets are turned away in the 1st. Lets see what Glavine has today. We could use his A game out there tonight. Boston to bat.

Hillbilly Jun 29 2006 07:19 PM

Let's hope Glavine isn't 'lost in the moment".

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:26 PM

Nice inning! Gives up the walk to Loretta but gets BigPappi to hit into the DP. :)

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:32 PM

Mets go 1-2-3 in the second, only Mr. Franco hitting a ball hard. Wright and Valentin on easy pop ups. Looks like Wrights trying to force out some hairs on his chin.

Gwreck Jun 29 2006 07:32 PM

For those in the NY area/with satellite, YES is showing the Tides at Columbus Clippers right now (for flipping to during commercials).

Centerfield Jun 29 2006 07:40 PM

Any update on Delgado?

Hillbilly Jun 29 2006 07:41 PM

Expected back against the Yanks.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:41 PM

Another nice inning by Tommy. Varitek batting lefty vs. Glavine. I see the logic here but I think this works better for us. At least it does when Glavine is hitting his spots. 0-0 after 2 and a half.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:44 PM

BEAUTIFUL bunt by Chavez but Lowell pounces on it like a pooper scooper. Makes the play. And Manny gives Milledge a lil lesson on how to play the Mohnstah as he holds Woody to a single on a drive off the wall.

Gwreck Jun 29 2006 07:46 PM

Hillbilly wrote: Expected back against the Yanks. As is Mr. Floyd, in all liklihood.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:48 PM

DAMN! Youkilis kills a possible rally robbing Reyes of a single to right. Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn,....Damn.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 07:56 PM

A smooth 3rd. No score after 3. I have a question for any veteran member here. I was here last season and I know you had the IGT here, but how many seasons has it been conducted here? I ask cuz now I see all these sport web sites have game "glogs".

Gwreck Jun 29 2006 08:06 PM

7,066 and counting. Sigh.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 08:11 PM

Glavine pitches himself into a jam here. Two hits and a walk. Bases loaded, 2 out, and Veritek will bat lefty again. And he gets out of it by getting Veritek to fly out to left! Whew.

mt8thsw9th Jun 29 2006 08:11 PM

On the Red Sox, feed, Don Orsillo just said something pretty unintentionally funny. They're talking about Glavine's background, and his hockey prowess, and how he made the right choice picking baseball over hockey. They mention how he's a sure bet HOFer, and that at least with baseball, "he still has all his own teeth". Woops.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 08:17 PM

mt8thsw9th wrote: On the Red Sox, feed, Don Orsillo just said something pretty unintentionally funny. They're talking about Glavine's background, and his hockey prowess, and how he made the right choice picking baseball over hockey. They mention how he's a sure bet HOFer, and that at least with baseball, "he still has all his own teeth". Woops. HA! Gotta wear those teeth guards in taxis these days. Mr Franco doubles to right!

Zvon Jun 29 2006 08:23 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 29 2006 08:24 PM

Woodward with a GREAT at bat draws the walk after making Shilling throw boo-koo pitches. 1st and 2nd- the rook at the plate.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 08:24 PM

OMG! Mr Franco gets picked off second! UGH.

TheOldMole Jun 29 2006 08:25 PM

When Schilling walked Woody, the guys in booth replayed it, saying "Watch Schilling's reaction." Schilling's reaction was "FUCK!"

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 08:27 PM

TheOldMole wrote: When Schilling walked Woody, the guys in booth replayed it, saying "Watch Schilling's reaction." Schilling's reaction was "FUCK!" As was mine at the pickoff. This is an official Big Game.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 08:32 PM

Glavine misplays the Gonzalez bunt for a single and and error. But he is stranded at second as Tommy gets out of another fix. We better start getting to Shilling-----like NOW.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 08:34 PM

Ugh. Milledge swings at crapiola.

Centerfield Jun 29 2006 08:42 PM

Beltran. Good.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 08:42 PM

2 run blast!

willpie Jun 29 2006 08:43 PM

Little Carlos! BOOM!

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 08:49 PM

That homer was enormous, considering any other way it might take 2 hits to score D'ohLuca and his rolled ankle.

Hillbilly Jun 29 2006 08:49 PM

Beltran is offically a big game player.

Nymr83 Jun 29 2006 09:08 PM

sox tie it on 2-straight fly balls moving ortiz to 3rd and then home. this inning could have been alot worse.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 09:11 PM

Nymr83 wrote: sox tie it on 2-straight fly balls moving ortiz to 3rd and then home. this inning could have been alot worse. tru- Did u see Pappi chuggin to 3rd?lol That was a big heads up play by the Sox. 2-2 after 6.

Gwreck Jun 29 2006 09:11 PM

Nymr83 wrote: sox tie it on 2-straight fly balls moving ortiz to 3rd and then home. I had to miss that half-inning and was listening on the radio rather than watching. WFAN guys suggested that Beltran erred by allowing Manny to advance to 2nd on that play rather than keeping the double play in order.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 09:14 PM

Gwreck wrote: WFAN guys suggested that Beltran erred by allowing Manny to advance to 2nd on that play rather than keeping the double play in order. could have a point but Ortiz looked like he was running in slo-mo and i thought we had a decent chance to get him there. I doubt manny went untill he saw where the throw was going. ......Maybe Im giving too much credit to Manny. Chavez slaps a liner of the Mohnstah for a double.

Gwreck Jun 29 2006 09:19 PM

It's been a while since the last Mets extra inning game. Sure smells like one is coming.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 09:19 PM

Milledge long ago stopped contributing anything...

Zvon Jun 29 2006 09:21 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Milledge long ago stopped contributing anything... Lets rephrase that and say Milledge is "due". Coo Coo the Clown with a lead off bunt single. I dont like that a bit.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 09:22 PM

Get D'ohLuca out of there. He's killing us too.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 09:24 PM

Sox score playing textbook baseball. Single/steal/sac/sac fly.

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 09:29 PM

Milledge getting me cranky. I hope you guys like jammin. Ooh, yeah! All right! We're jammin': I wanna jam it wid you. We're jammin', jammin', And I hope you like jammin', too. Ain't no rules, ain't no vow, we can do it anyhow: I'n'I will see you through, 'Cos everyday we pay the price with a little sacrifice, Jammin' till the jam is through. We're jammin' - To think that jammin' was a thing of the past; We're jammin', And I hope this jam is gonna last. No bullet can stop us now, we neither beg nor we won't bow; Neither can be bought nor sold. We all defend the right; Jah - Jah children must unite: Your life is worth much more than gold. We're jammin' (jammin', jammin', jammin') And we're jammin' in the name of the Lord; We're jammin' (jammin', jammin', jammin'), We're jammin' right straight from Yah. Yeh! Holy Mount Zion; Holy Mount Zion: Jah sitteth in Mount Zion And rules all creation. Yeah, we're - we're jammin' (wotcha-wa), Wotcha-wa-wa-wa, we're jammin' (wotcha-wa), See, I wanna jam it wid you We're jammin' (jammin', jammin', jammin') I'm jammed: I hope you're jammin', too. Jam's about my pride and truth I cannot hide To keep you satisfied. True love that now exist is the love I can't resist, So jam by my side. We're Jammin' (jammin', jammin', jammin'), yeah-eah-eah! I wanna jam it wid you. We're jammin', we're jammin', we're jammin', we're jammin', We're jammin', we're jammin', we're jammin', we're jammin'; Hope you like jammin', too. We're jammin', we're jammin' (jammin'), We're jammin', we're jammin' (jammin'). I wanna (I wanna jam it wid you) - I wanna - I wanna jam wid you now. Jammin', jammin' (hope you like jammin' too). Eh-eh! I hope you like jammin', I hope you like jammin', 'Cause (I wanna jam it wid you). I wanna ... wid you. I like - I hope you - I hope you like jammin', too. I wanna jam it; I wanna jam it.

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 09:30 PM

Timlin again appearing with a crusty dusty hat.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 09:30 PM

Im not sayin anything positive or negative here with this pic- its just the pics are hitting the web and Ill post afew as we go. Mr Franco gets picked off in the 5th.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 09:32 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Timlin again appearing with a crusty dusty hat. I wanna do a chemical analisis of what that....substance is.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 09:33 PM

and i apoligize for possibly sidetracking your rally song with an image of negativity. Unite-Assemble!

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 09:35 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Get D'ohLuca out of there. He's killing us too. He contributed defensively to that run, but last time up he worked Schilling deep before looping a two-out single to right, setting upBeltran's homer. Besides that being our only runs, it's pretty much what he's in there being asked to do.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 09:35 PM

Jeez. D'ohLuca is a decent player and by all appearances, a hell of a guy, but one thing he's not is vital, at least not tonight. If he's banged up, Rastro is a perfectly viable replacement.

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 09:36 PM

But he flails and fails here.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 09:36 PM

Well it's not like Castro is incapable of a single in 4 turns.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 09:37 PM

Carlos's Kaboom in the 6th. can he do it again?

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 09:38 PM

Yahoo in Fenway stands: "Hey Beltran, everybody in Kansas City hates you! Beltran, you suuuuu-ck!"

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 09:42 PM

Taking 3-0 with Wright=bad. Boo, Coco.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 09:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 29 2006 09:43 PM

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! what a catch by Coco the Clown. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.wow. (edit--Coo Coo?)

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 09:42 PM

Holy crap.

ScarletKnight41 Jun 29 2006 09:43 PM

Fuckshit!

Gwreck Jun 29 2006 09:43 PM

This sucks.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 09:43 PM

Way to beat the swagger outta us. Jesus, what a fucking catch! How are these clowns not 12 games ahead of the MFYs?

Hillbilly Jun 29 2006 09:43 PM

Fuckin Red Sox!

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 09:48 PM

In basketball, we call that four-point turnaround.

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 09:52 PM

A Papelbon is a dessert served at the Vatican. Let's serve it tonight. Got a lot on my head! Most of it is you! I got a lot on my head! Can't forget about you! Lock me away where the silly boys go I'm on top of my nerves, don't you know Take me apart 'cause I'm out of control Send me a letter on a midnight scroll Got a lot on my head! Most of it is you! I got a lot on my head! Can't forget about you! Dance by the window in flamingo pink Go through the motions in your Romeo mink Condition's red, disposition's blue Why am I so attracted to you? Got a lot on my head! Most of it is you! I got a lot on my head! Can't forget about you! Trip down the alleyway, take the back stairs I know it's good but good isn't fair That's what you said, flashbulb in your eye How can I hold you when you're waving goodbye Got a lot on my head! Most of it is you! I got a lot on my head! Can't forget about you!

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 09:57 PM

Stupid Cars from stupid Boston. Shoulda posted a Cure song.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 10:01 PM

Tuff series. Well, these Red Sox have been Red Hot. Not a good game. Is that the 1st time we've lost 3 in a row? Mets will get it back on track---whos next? Oh- MFYs!!!!!! We'll wipe the floors with em.

Rockin' Doc Jun 29 2006 10:03 PM

Boston changed the Mets swagger to a stagger as they head to the Bronx.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 10:04 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Stupid Cars from stupid Boston. I hear they are touring as the "New Cars" sans Rick O', and with Todd Rundgren takin his place. I love Todd but that sounds pretty stupid.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 10:07 PM

The Mets made some mistakes tonight, didnt take advantage of some opportunities, but Ill have to say the whole game hinged on Coco's catch. IMO.

Zvon Jun 29 2006 10:14 PM

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 10:21 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Stupid Cars from stupid Boston. Shoulda posted a Cure song. Substitution mass confusion clouds inside your head.

Frayed Knot Jun 29 2006 10:30 PM

The perfect bunt by Crisp, and his perfect catch the next inning, were the difference. Remember that Boston was without him for nearly two months as he got hurt the first week of the season. The optimistic was to look at it this is if we were bound to split these 6 games at least we lost the "correct" 3. Of course we still need to sweep this weekend in order to have the split ... but that's a minor detail. In all, our "rep" - and in part that of the Nat'l League - took a bigger hit this week than our lead in the division did.

Edgy DC Jun 29 2006 10:32 PM

The really optimistic view is that the Mets paused amidst their assault on all of baseball to undermine the Yankee cause.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 29 2006 10:35 PM

Zvon wrote: ="Edgy DC"]Stupid Cars from stupid Boston. I hear they are touring as the "New Cars" sans Rick O', and with Todd Rundgren takin his place. I love Todd but that sounds pretty stupid. Z -- [url]http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?t=3591&sid=23bd8e41e272f63998828027c326a403[/url]

old original jb Jun 29 2006 11:31 PM I didn't think I'd have to say this this year.

Blech.

Willets Point Jun 30 2006 12:19 AM

KC wrote: Is Boston Beer Works still open? Yep. One by Fenway and one by the Garden.

Willets Point Jun 30 2006 12:20 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: 8 times this year we've lost 2 straight - and so far we're 8-0 in that position. Which means .... . ... we were due.

Edgy DC Jun 30 2006 12:21 AM

Let us agree. No Bon Jovi in all caps during the Yankee series.

Willets Point Jun 30 2006 12:35 AM

My thoughts: - Never, never again put a Bon Jovi song in an IGT - Willets + Glavine = suck. Next time I have a ticket to a Mets game and Glavine's pitching I'm giving it away. - So I mentioned after last game that I'd rather sit behind a steel beam than the aisle full of ADD fans. So this game my seat was directly behind a steel beam. A kind Red Sox fan at the end of the row said she had an extra seat because her husband couldn't make it and let me sit there and thus I ended up with a GREAT seat behind home plate to the first base side. - It was Connecticut Night at Fenway Park. Appropos to my CT childhood. - Low point of the game: bratty teenage boy in front of me starts chanting "Mets Suck" and throwing peanuts at Mets fans. Just when I think his parents are going to intervene they start chanting and throwing peanuts too!!!!. This was the most classless family I've ever encountered. - Based on the number of replica jerseys/t-shirts the fan favorites for the Red Sox are Crisp, Papelbon and Ortiz and for the Mets, Wright (by a wide margin), Martinez, and Seaver. - I'm glad this series is over so now I can go back to actually feeling happy when Papi hits a sweet homerun. - Despite the Mets loss and Glavine crapping the bed in the 6th, it was a privilege to see two great pitchers of our generation duel it out in a well-played game. Two great defensive plays by the Sox, baserunning blunders by the Mets, and Beltran throwing to 3rd instead of 2nd are the difference in this game.

Edgy DC Jun 30 2006 09:13 AM

I guess the good news is this is the hard-fought game they failed to give the Sox the first two games. They had the lead, but their bullpen, entering the game with the best ERA in the bigs, couldn't hold it. They went out there without Delgado, without Floyd, and without Nady. But, as Art Howe would say, they battled. I guess I'm concerned that they're waiting on the homers and not setting the tables that set those homers up. Seven walks in the series, and two walks the last two games.

Elster88 Jun 30 2006 09:17 AM

Has Beltran hit a cutoff man even once this year?

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2006 09:31 AM

"Next time I have a ticket to a Mets game and Glavine's pitching I'm giving it away. " Yeah, he was the problem. "Has Beltran hit a cutoff man even once this year?" No

Willets Point Jun 30 2006 10:46 AM

="Frayed Knot"]"Next time I have a ticket to a Mets game and Glavine's pitching I'm giving it away. " Yeah, he was the problem. I meant that whenever I see a Mets game that Glavine starts the Mets lose, so if I were not in attendance maybe they'd win. Kind of silly karma thing I don't believe in but funny to joke about. On the other hand, your co-ace only being able to pitch 5 innings while allowing 5 hits, 3 walks, 2 runs, NO strikeouts and making a throwing error is a problem.

seawolf17 Jun 30 2006 11:18 AM

Willets Point wrote: - Low point of the game: bratty teenage boy in front of me starts chanting "Mets Suck" and throwing peanuts at Mets fans. Just when I think his parents are going to intervene they start chanting and throwing peanuts too!!!!. This was the most classless family I've ever encountered. You know, ever since I've read this, I've been angry. It makes me want to call the Red Sox and file a complaint. Not only is it fucking obnoxious to do that, peanut allergies are deadly serious. If I was there, I would have not only called security, I would have been very, very tempted to press criminal charges against the little piece of crap and his family. I'm literally still shaking. Infuriating. Makes me want to kick the parents in the fucking teeth.

Willets Point Jun 30 2006 11:21 AM

I thought about reporting them, but the Mets fans who were being hit by peanuts were just ignoring them so I figured it was their complaint to make not mine. I thought it was more obnoxious than harmful and mostly was put off by how irresponsible the parents were.

Elster88 Jun 30 2006 11:22 AM

seawolf17 wrote: ="Willets Point"]- Low point of the game: bratty teenage boy in front of me starts chanting "Mets Suck" and throwing peanuts at Mets fans. Just when I think his parents are going to intervene they start chanting and throwing peanuts too!!!!. This was the most classless family I've ever encountered. You know, ever since I've read this, I've been angry. It makes me want to call the Red Sox and file a complaint. Not only is it fucking obnoxious to do that, peanut allergies are deadly serious. If I was there, I would have not only called security, I would have been very, very tempted to press criminal charges against the little piece of crap and his family. I'm literally still shaking. Infuriating. Makes me want to kick the parents in the fucking teeth. *applause*

soupcan Jun 30 2006 11:22 AM

I'm thinking that not only do you have a peanut allergy but that you've possibly experienced the worst of it?

Willets Point Jun 30 2006 11:25 AM

I should add that other Red Sox fans in the area were visibly disturbed by this family and I don't think they should reflect poorly on Red Sox fans in general. I think no one said anything because these people just seemed so crazy you wouldn't know what they'd do if provoked.

seawolf17 Jun 30 2006 11:30 AM

soupcan wrote: I'm thinking that not only do you have a peanut allergy but that you've possibly experienced the worst of it? Thankfully, I haven't died yet. But I've had reactions, yes. And it's not fun.

Edgy DC Jun 30 2006 11:31 AM

I misunderstood. I thought they were tossing Jack Russell terrirers.

soupcan Jun 30 2006 11:38 AM

seawolf17 wrote: ="soupcan"]I'm thinking that not only do you have a peanut allergy but that you've possibly experienced the worst of it? Thankfully, I haven't died yet. But I've had reactions, yes. And it's not fun. I guess I meant 'almost the worst'.

soupcan Jun 30 2006 11:39 AM

Edgy DC wrote: I misunderstood. I thought they were tossing Jack Russell terrirers. Yeah really. Isn't that like me naming my dog 'Razor Blade Sandwich'?

MFS62 Jun 30 2006 11:39 AM

seawolf17 wrote: ="soupcan"]I'm thinking that not only do you have a peanut allergy but that you've possibly experienced the worst of it? Thankfully, I haven't died yet. But I've had reactions, yes. And it's not fun. Looks like you got the allergy under control by being very careful. Good news ]Makes me want to kick the parents in the fucking teeth. Now you might want to concentrate on those anger management classes. :) Later

seawolf17 Jun 30 2006 12:45 PM

="Edgy DC"]I misunderstood. I thought they were tossing Jack Russell terrirers.

KC Jun 30 2006 02:08 PM

Els: >>>Has Beltran hit a cutoff man even once this year?<<< I haven't kept a tally of Beltrans throws, but didn't the announcers opine that there was no cutoff man on his throw to third and that's why Manny advanced? I think Reyes was the culprit. Also, and I'm picking nits, I hate when people make it sound like the cutoff man should be hit. He should be thrown through and it's his decision or the guy yelling at him to "cut it" 's decision whether to catch the ball. I'm having a MetMaven/ChiefUmpire flashback for some reason.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2006 02:14 PM

One of the announcers opined that Reyes wasn't lined up properly - although the throw air-mailed him anyway so it may not have mattered. Just the fact that the heave is low enough to be possibly cut is what would have kept Manny on 1st. Turned out not to matter because Manny never scored that inning but even he was an astute enough runner to know he could go as soon as that ball left Beltran's hand with a too-high angle on it. Nice running all around by Papi btw. I wasn't so sure he was going to get to 2nd on his hit much less to 3rd on the fly. The one that got him home was more of a gimme.

Elster88 Jun 30 2006 02:15 PM

Maybe a better question would've been "Has Beltran thrown a ball all year that has been cutoff-able?" The answer is probably still no. I think I remember that comment about Reyes too, but even if Reyes had been in the right spot, that throw goes a mile over his head. Given his play this season, I bet he still throws that ball way over Reyes' head even if Reyes is lined up right (assuming he bothered looking at him in the first place). Actually I was less bothered by that play yesterday because Beltran had a good shot at throwing out Ortiz. But I feel like all year he's been throwing balls that can't be cut. Not sure if it's only me.

KC Jun 30 2006 02:18 PM

I'll be more tuned into it going forward for sure.