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IGT Two of two Pelfrey's debut!

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 04:56 PM

FLORIDA MARLINS Hitters AB R H BI BB K LO AVG A. Amezaga CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .256 H. Ramirez SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269 D. Uggla 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .306 M. Cabrera 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .340 M. Jacobs 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .275 J. Borchard LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .232 J. Hermida RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289 M. Treanor C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .214 R. Nolasco P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .158 NEW YORK METS Hitters AB R H BI BB K LO AVG E. Chavez RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .275 P. Lo Duca C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .293 C. Beltran CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .275 D. Wright 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .317 J. Franco 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .298 J. Valentin 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .270 C. Floyd LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .238 C. Woodward SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .231 M. Pelfrey P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -

A Boy Named Seo Jul 08 2006 04:59 PM

Blacked out of both games by MLB.TV. That's horse shit, man.

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 05:02 PM

First ML K!

Nymr83 Jul 08 2006 05:05 PM

Cabrera needs to be yelled at by his manager... you've got a guy making his major league debut, in the first inning, 2 runners on, and you're swinging at a 3-0 pitch. Thanks!

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2006 05:05 PM

Miggy Cabrera is a great all-around player but he may be the slowest 23 y/o prof athlete on the planet.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:08 PM

Not the smoothest 1st inning, but Ill take it. Pelfrey hits Uggla with a pitch, which Im sure was due to nerves. I hope this doesnt become a beanball war. I was just jokin in the early IGT about drilling Cabrera again.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2006 05:09 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 08 2006 05:11 PM

Nolasco sounds like one of those made-up corporate names. NOLASCO: NOrthern LouisianA Shrimpfishing COrporation; supplying shellfish to the greater southeast since 1967

TheOldMole Jul 08 2006 05:09 PM

The triple is becoming the Mets' signature hit. Endy leads off with one.

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 05:09 PM

Endy does his best Reyes with the leadoff triple!

TheOldMole Jul 08 2006 05:10 PM

What do we know about Delgado?

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:10 PM

MMMMM.... Chavez with a Reyes like lead off triple.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:11 PM

TheOldMole wrote: What do we know about Delgado? Xrays negative-sore hand-day to day.

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 05:11 PM

TheOldMole wrote: What do we know about Delgado? X rays negative. But I bet it hurts.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:12 PM

And loDuke singles him home! Hey! Just like old times.

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 05:12 PM

Top of the order gives Pelfrey a lead. Lo Duca brings in Endy with a base hit.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2006 05:15 PM

Wright's K-ing a lot lately.

TransMonk Jul 08 2006 05:16 PM

Chavez/LoDuca way better than Valentin/Woodward. C'mon guys, I want some more.

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 05:18 PM

Floyd loops a hit. Get this, this is the cool part: Manny Acta told Lo Duca to stop at third.

TransMonk Jul 08 2006 05:20 PM

Sweet, Valentin scores 4 more! No pressure Pelfrey, pitch like you own 'em.

TheOldMole Jul 08 2006 05:20 PM

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 05:20 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 08 2006 05:21 PM

Valentin goes Willis!!! 5-0 Mets! Acta's wise move pays off.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:20 PM

="TransMonk"]Chavez/LoDuca way better than Valentin/Woodward. I hope Willie takes note of this. Beltran walks. Wright, yes FK--I have noticed this, Ks. Floyd singles and Val with-- THE GRAND KABOOM!

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:38 PM

Wright with the error gives one back. Settle down Pelfrey. make your pitches. Crap.....was that a safety squeeze? edit-CBS said Chavez at 1st--this is why reading the game sucks.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2006 05:40 PM

Well it's not like they smacking the rook around despite the 2 runs thru 2 innings: 3 hits so far but only 1 has left in infield, plus a BB, an HBP, and an error.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:46 PM

I still dont know if that was a straight squeeze or what, but it reads like one. lol. They would try to rattle the rook with something like that, the stinkin fish that they are. Yea-I read something about worryin about this team (last nites IGT, I think) and I have to agree--this is one team I would worry about ahead of the Phils and the Braves from here on out. From now on they will be the stinkin fish to me.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:51 PM

Nabisco (ok, Nolasco) hits LoDuca. Stinkin fish. Beltran follows with a single, Wright with a walk. Its Cliffy with the bases juiced. And he draws a walk! lol. On 4 pitches. Valentin again with bases loaded..... (drumroll please)

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2006 05:51 PM

It was essentially the "safety" squeeze; runners NOT running and getting the bunt down got the a run. Not a bad play when you're behind early like that against an unfamiliar pitcher in tough sunlight time; just chip away at the lead.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:53 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: It was essentially the "safety" squeeze; runners NOT running and getting the bunt down got the a run. Not a bad play when you're behind early like that against an unfamiliar pitcher in tough sunlight time; just chip away at the lead. thnx FK. stinkin fish

Nymr83 Jul 08 2006 05:55 PM

Valentin triples in 3 more!

TransMonk Jul 08 2006 05:55 PM

Valentin, you mustachioed stud.

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 05:55 PM

Valentin can only muster a triple that time.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:56 PM

GET OUT! Val triples the bases clear!!!!

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2006 05:56 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 08 2006 05:59 PM

<------ I just became Claudell Washington ... I feel my shoulders broadening as I type Valentin's having a nice week this afternoon. Not bad for a guy many Met fans wanted strung up and shot by the 2nd week of the season.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 05:58 PM

what an excellent at bat that was! That was on the 9th pitch of the at-bat according to CBS sportsline. Thats workin Nabisco till he cracks like a cheap chip. (Nolasco's gonna kill my fantasy baseball day, but I will feel no pain)

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 06:03 PM

When I was 12, i came up in a game 4 times with the baseloaded. K, BB, HR, Double. I drove in 7 in our 9-8 win and got yelled at after the game for overunning second (I was heading for third on the double but Micheal Sacks was stanging there - he should have scored!). I got back (Thanks to Micheal's break towards home that drew a throw), but still got the 'you got to keep your head in the game' talk. But anyway, I think Valentin's HR and triple are a bit more of a big deal since it's in the Majors.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 06:06 PM

Nolascos ERA for the day- 48.60 Whip- 5.40. The info just happens to be handy. Uggla reached on a double. You need more runs Pelfrey? Cuz the boys will get em for ya if ya do. I would think Valentin alone probly has another 7RBIs in him. Settle in rook. This game is your game.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 06:07 PM

Hillbilly wrote: When I was 12, i came up in a game 4 times with the baseloaded. K, BB, HR, Double. I drove in 7 in our 9-8 win and got yelled at after the game for overunning second (I was heading for third on the double but Micheal Sacks was stanging there - he should have scored!). I got back (Thanks to Micheal's break towards home that drew a throw), but still got the 'you got to keep your head in the game' talk. But anyway, I think Valentin's HR and triple are a bit more of a big deal since it's in the Majors. I dunno Hillbilly-its all relative. Nice story. :)

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2006 06:16 PM

Still not hitting him much (that 2B was just a well-placed bouncer) but his pitch-count is going to make this a 5-and-out deal for the rook's debut no matter what the run cushion is. They're not getting around much on his fastballs (lotsa fouls the other way) but too many walks (not surprising) and deep counts will prevent him from taking this much beyond 5 IPs

Zvon Jul 08 2006 06:18 PM

Another not so smooth inning from Pelfrey. A wild pitch in there. Three walks... Up to 70 pitches in 2.2 innings. Willies gonna let him try and pitch out of this. It would be nice if the rook was in long enough to get a win out of this. Whew----induces the pop up and gets out of it. Zvon wrote: Thats workin Nabisco till he cracks like a cheap chip. ....who here thinks I should have gone with "cookie" instead of "cheap chip" ? Or maybe :Thats workin Nabisco till he crackers.

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 06:34 PM

Pelfrey gets through the 4th. Up to about 95 pitches. 9-3 Mets

Zvon Jul 08 2006 06:35 PM

That inning was nice. Hope that buys the rook 6 innings. 89 pitches thru 4. edit: CBS says 89--they are not always right tho. As a matter of fact its amazing how many times they are wrong. What do ya want 4 free?

TheOldMole Jul 08 2006 06:38 PM

Zvon Jul 08 2006 06:39 PM

Hillbilly Jul 08 2006 06:40 PM

Cliff hits the scoreboard. 11-3 Mets. He seems to be hitting the ball well now.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 06:42 PM

Just when I think Floyds lookin worn and washed up he gets a hold a one. And when he does it looks so sweet.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 06:54 PM

Nady will hit for Pelfrey in the 5th. Thatll do. Mets have loaded the bases again---no outs. crips-this is soooooo opposite the 1st game. But datsAbaseball!

Zvon Jul 08 2006 06:59 PM

LoDuke singles in 2 more-- pile em on boys. 13-3

Nymr83 Jul 08 2006 07:01 PM

not a great outing from Pelfrey, but i'll take it. i think pedro martinez might have gone 2 months without getting this many runs scored for him combined...

Zvon Jul 08 2006 07:03 PM

Back to back ground rule doubles for Wright and Floyd--this is sick.lol.

Zvon Jul 08 2006 07:05 PM

That bum Valentin struck out ;) Its 16-3. Bet Pedro wishes heda got run support like this (even split up among 3 or 4 games)early on this season.

SteveJRogers Jul 08 2006 07:07 PM

Looks like Pelfrey is doing his best MJ here, hope its good for Yance when he gets back:

SteveJRogers Jul 08 2006 07:09 PM

Here is Owens from last night Gotta get one today to get it in the "Blue Cap" rule

SteveJRogers Jul 08 2006 07:11 PM

Man Vargas really is deep in the doghouse with Girardi!

SteveJRogers Jul 08 2006 07:21 PM

Heh, thats the way you shut your manager up after he decided that you'd be a human pinata the inning before!

Zvon Jul 08 2006 07:22 PM

I was really hopin to see Owens pitch today too, as well as Pelfrey. Damn broadcast bullshit these days.

SteveJRogers Jul 08 2006 07:25 PM

Bit of a non-sequitor of a Paul Lo Duca chant going on while the Marlins were hitting

Zvon Jul 08 2006 07:29 PM

TheOldMole Jul 08 2006 07:29 PM

Zvon Jul 08 2006 07:54 PM

Heilman on to close it. We needed a laffer like this after Willis's granny yesterday and todays first game. A very welcomed All Star about to come up. And boy can we use a break, or what?

Zvon Jul 08 2006 07:57 PM

put it in the books! 17-3. mmmmm--i love fish sticks.

Gwreck Jul 08 2006 09:12 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Bit of a non-sequitor of a Paul Lo Duca chant going on while the Marlins were hitting It was part of a roll-call chant that seemed to be coming from the Loge in left field. Attention morons: wrong team, wrong stadium. Hows about we get our own freakin' tradition. Addendum: the catcher's not going to respond to roll-call. He's kind of busy, you know?

SteveJRogers Jul 08 2006 09:22 PM

Gwreck wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]Bit of a non-sequitor of a Paul Lo Duca chant going on while the Marlins were hitting It was part of a roll-call chant that seemed to be coming from the Loge in left field. Attention morons: wrong team, wrong stadium. Hows about we get our own freakin' tradition. Addendum: the catcher's not going to respond to roll-call. He's kind of busy, you know? Geez, they did that last year also. Plus the fact that Lo Duca is an ADMITTED Met fan, he's not going to respond to some lame rip-off of a MFY fan tradition

ScarletKnight41 Jul 08 2006 11:03 PM

What a great game to attend! It made sweating through the first game worthwhile. A fun time was had by me, Kase, Edgy and Iubitul (who will certainly be posting pictures at some point).

TheOldMole Jul 08 2006 11:08 PM

I love it that you guys were there.

Iubitul Jul 08 2006 11:09 PM

What a fun time - it was great to get together with Scarlet, Edgy and KC again - I'll be posting a few pics soon...

cleonjones11 Jul 09 2006 02:08 AM

I posted Milledge and Pelfrey would be here a month ago but got shot down quickly by the cranepool clique..WOOF

SteveJRogers Jul 09 2006 08:52 AM

cleonjones11 wrote: I posted Milledge and Pelfrey would be here a month ago but got shot down quickly by the cranepool clique..WOOF They were both called up due to injuries. Milledge is back in the minors for more seasoning and so will Pelfrey after the break. BIG difference

SteveJRogers Jul 09 2006 09:00 AM

And while we are at it, exactly HOW is anyone catching us this year? Braves and Phillies have quit on the year, the Marlins are way too young to stay with the Mets, this is NOT the 1969 Mets out there (no Ed Charles, Ed Kranepool, Don Cardwell, hell Cleon, Tug and Buddy could have been called "veterans" at the time as well) and the Nationals are a disorganized mess. My "Congratulations" posts were moronic ways to improve Metly karma, seriously this division is all but wrapped up. Only thing we should be thinking about is how far in the postseason we are going. And don't take any bows for Milledge yet, last time I checked his performance was given a soundly "Needs more seasoning" and jury is still out on Pelfrey. For all you know we could have another Jefferies and David West on our hands

Elster88 Jul 09 2006 12:08 PM

KC Jul 09 2006 12:49 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 09 2006 05:21 PM

cj: >>>Milledge and Pelfrey would be here a month ago but got shot down quickly by the cranepool clique<<< Everyone's a martyr. You've always struck me as a Pabst Blue Ribbon guy, cj ... now you're posting like a whine and cheeze guy. Get over your years of cyber beefs with some of the people here and move on. No one really gives a hooey about you and what you post that you have to keep drawing attention to your stellar baseball knowledge. Woof, indeed. oe: changed shit to hooey

SteveJRogers Jul 09 2006 01:02 PM

Gotta say this guy is worse than Bret/Sal, at least Bret/Sal went back and forth, this guy does quick hit & runs. I'm still waiting for him to apologize for thinking I was rude in the ASG thread as well as answering who is catching us for the division and how.

TransMonk Jul 09 2006 03:59 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: And while we are at it, exactly HOW is anyone catching us this year? The Chicago White Sox had a 9 game lead last year in their division at the AS break, and an 11 game lead on Cleveland who was in third. By September 22nd the Indians cut that lead to 1.5 games. Oh, and that 2005 White Sox team was better than the 2006 Mets to this point. Now, the Mets play in a much weaker division and no team has really stepped up. But the Marlins are young, hungry and have more than a little talent. Over the past 40 games, roughly 45% of the season so far, they have a better record than the Mets. And we still have 10 games left with them head to head this season. Is it likely...no. Would I bet on it...hell no. But, please, let's not pretend that it is impossible. That being said, I don't want to think about who can catch us or how they are going to do it. I want to win this division going away by 20+ games. But I do believe this team can play better than they have over the past month or so. And they are going to have to if they want to win it all.

Edgy DC Jul 09 2006 09:06 PM

]I posted Milledge and Pelfrey would be here a month ago but got shot down quickly by the cranepool clique..WOOF Yeah, where's that thread and what's your beef?

metirish Jul 09 2006 09:09 PM

It looks like he has a beef with the so called clique here, in the years I have posted here and the old place I never thought there was any kind of clique...

Edgy DC Jul 10 2006 01:05 AM

From Marty Noble's Game Notes: The Marlins-Mets doubleheader Saturday had rookie pitchers John Maine, Mike Pelfrey, Josh Johnson and Rick Nolasco starting. The last time rookies started for both teams in a doubleheader was on Aug. 7, 1977 -- Moose Haas and Lary Sorensen for the Brewers, and Jerry Garvin and Jim Clancy for the first-year Blue Jays. The last time rookies started both doubleheader games for the Mets was on Sept. 27, 1995 -- Robert Person and Reid Cornelius against the Reds at Shea. The last time Mets rookies started both games of a doubleheader played before the annual roster expansion on Sept. 1 was on June 7, 1987, when Tom Edens and John Mitchell started. The last National League doubleheader involving four rookie starting pitchers was on Sept. 28, 1976, when the Mets hosted the Expos. The pitchers were Nino Espinosa and Bob Myrick for New York, and Gerald Hannahs and Joe Keener for Montreal. From UMDB: Yesterday's most popular lookup? Nino Espinosa.

Vic Sage Jul 10 2006 05:10 PM

]... in the years I have posted here and the old place I never thought there was any kind of clique... That's because we don't tell you about the meetings...