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The future of the Non-Baseball Forum

What should we do with Non-Baseball Content?

Seperate sub-fora for Music, Books, Films and other popular topics as necessary	4 votes
No changes from the way things are now	9 votes
Consolidate all new non-baseball discussion into one forum with archives for books, film & music and other topics as needed	4 votes
Other (write your idea below)	0 votes

Willets Point Jul 06 2006 11:59 AM

Once again discussion and disagreement regarding Non-Baseball topics and what fora we should or shouldn't have for them again has come up. Here's a sampling of relevant quotes from the Answer/Ask thread: Old Mole ]A lot of threads get shuffled down quickly because of all the band head-to-head threads. MFS62 ]Shouldn't those band contest threads have their own forum? Rockin' Doc ]I'm tempted to say yes, but I suspect that segregating those threads away in a seperate thread would likely kill out the project. The older contests are already being archived into a seperate archival forum. I think the project will run it's course and slowly fizzle out as people run out of bands they care to sponsor and the novelty of the novelty of the concept wears off. Of course, I could be wrong about that. Time will tell, I suppose Lubitul ] Definitely - it's annoying to come here and see a million BLC threads at the top, and everything else buried... Do you think the proliferation of BLC threads have stifled overall discussion in the NBF? Now personally I don't think the BLC is really the culprit as there are never more than 3-4 of those active at one time with wide gaps of inactivity in between turns. The Answer/Ask thread had no responses for 30 days (and this was not the first time) and that's why I thought folks had lost interest. Meanwhile, Knicks fans have managed to write three pages in the Knicks suck thread since the NBA finals ended (in other words during a short period of time when not a game of basketball was played) so if there is interest in a topic people will find a way to discuss it. To those who say that the BLC is somehow hurting their discussion I say, it's your forum! Start a thread, add a post to existing threads you're interested in. These discussions aren't going to happen without you. My personal opinion is to consolidate. Bring back film and book discussion to the NBF. I think one active forum is better than several lightly visited fora. Of course we can keep book, film, and music archives to easily locate older stuff and add other archives as needed.

Edgy DC Jul 06 2006 12:13 PM

Take 30 days in your response, folks. True though, one can't always count on a few coobirific instigators. Be Your Own Cooby, on tour with Sonic Youth this summer.

Elster88 Jul 06 2006 12:22 PM

I went with "Keep things the way they are now", because I'd much rather keep all those annoying music threads seperate, and I like the forum for movies. Another possiblity is an art/culture forum. Combine all books, theater, movies, and music into one big forum. I think jamming it all into the NBF would clog up the NBF too much.

Willets Point Jul 06 2006 12:30 PM

Elster88 wrote: . I think jamming it all into the NBF would clog up the NBF too much. I don't know about that. The NBF gets about 2/5 of the threads that the Baseball Forum gets and nobody complains that the Baseball Forum is too cluttered.

SteveJRogers Jul 06 2006 12:30 PM

Do sub folders for music, and TV, there allready is a book and film forum. Maybe put the AP Died/Alive threads as well as News of The Weird and other current news threads in a "Current Events forum" And a NB Sports folder for all the AP Other teams/other sports threads Keep the original NBF as a Misc type of form for stuff like Answer/Ask, Find Me A, Next To Nothing, ect type of threads

Johnny Dickshot Jul 06 2006 12:31 PM

]My personal opinion is to consolidate. Bring back film and book discussion to the NBF. I think one active forum is better than several lightly visited fora. Of course we can keep book, film, and music archives to easily locate older stuff and add other archives as needed. Agreed -- There's more forums than users, practically.

TheOldMole Jul 06 2006 01:41 PM

No changes. Too many rules here as it is.

Edgy DC Jul 06 2006 02:09 PM

Not looking for rules, just suggestions for administrators to go by as we shape this place.

Willets Point Jul 06 2006 02:11 PM

I'm actually looking to streamline things rather than complicate.

Rockin' Doc Jul 06 2006 02:43 PM

I appreciate Willet's desire to appease the masses by making things less complicated, but I don't personally see anything wrong with the current system. If you desire to post in a particular thread, it's generally not too difficult for a person to find. I've found there is wisdom in the old saying, "If it's not broke, don't fix it". Personally, I don't think the forum is need of repair.

ABG Jul 06 2006 03:43 PM

I don't typically like subforums, but they make sense here. Who needs 15 band competition threads on one page?

Willets Point Jul 06 2006 03:54 PM

ABG wrote: I don't typically like subforums, but they make sense here. Who needs 15 band competition threads on one page? Of course since there are never more than 3-4 at the same time, that will never be the case.

metirish Jul 06 2006 04:05 PM

I think things are just fine here.....

seawolf17 Jul 06 2006 04:37 PM

I voted (a), because I thought it and (b) were pretty much the same thing. But obviously I'm wrong in that respect. I think everything's great now; if the A/A thread falls off for thirty days, let it get archived; if someone wants to restart it, let it get restarted. With a limited number of spaces on the first page, stuff is always going to fall by the wayside. No big whoop.

ScarletKnight41 Jul 06 2006 04:42 PM

I voted to consolodate. There are too many subfora as it is, IMO.

ABG Jul 06 2006 05:44 PM

Willets Point wrote: ="ABG"]I don't typically like subforums, but they make sense here. Who needs 15 band competition threads on one page? Of course since there are never more than 3-4 at the same time, that will never be the case. Well that's how it strikes me. Maybe it was more when we had all those going, and the Groups A-F World Cup threads that this place looked so cluttered.

MFS62 Jul 06 2006 08:31 PM

I think Mole made the original suggestion to put the music challenge threads in a separate forum. I agree. Sometimes there are so many (they seem to come in groups) that other long time threads get pushed to back pages. And it takes real diligence to figure out if they're still around or have been archived (to who knows where?). Later

TheOldMole Jul 06 2006 08:40 PM

I don't think it was me. And I have mixed feelings about it. It means if you want to add something to Look Who Died or Find Me An Image...you may have to dig down two or three pages. And some bozo is likely to end up starting a new Knicks Suck thread because he can't find the old one (oh, wait -- that bozo was me). But on the other hand, the threads at the top of the first page represent what people are actually posting on, and who can argue with that? I don't always get to the whatcha readin' or whatcha seein' threads, and the same might happen to what band d'ya like if that were to be ghettoized. But on the other hand, I wouldn't argue against making a separate alcove. Or what about recommending that all the musical spy vs. spy posts go in the same thread?

metsmarathon Jul 06 2006 11:03 PM

eek, change! scary!

Nymr83 Jul 07 2006 12:01 AM

another board i visit has a non-baseball sports fprum, but i dont think we really need that as i can count on both hands how many sports threads we'll have once the world cup ends. the BLC threads annoy me at times but no more so than old schaffer threads that suddenly get grouped at the top of the forum. i think the non-baseball forum is fine as is and unless there start to me alot more threads there is no reason to subdivide it.

HahnSolo Jul 07 2006 12:58 PM

If it ain't broke (and I don't think it is)...

Rockin' Doc Jul 07 2006 01:22 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: I've found there is wisdom in the old saying, "If it's not broke, don't fix it". Personally, I don't think the forum is need of repair. ="HahnSolo"] If it ain't broke (and I don't think it is)... Great minds think alike. We don't appear to be alone in thinking things are fine as they currently are. The forum seems to have a nice Bell-curve going with this poll.

Willets Point Jul 07 2006 01:47 PM

So I'm gathering the consensus here is that people want to bitch and moan about how everything is wrong with this forum and how the admins keep them down but don't want anyone to do anything about it. That's fucking peachy, thanks!

Willets Point Jul 07 2006 02:36 PM

MFS62 wrote: I think Mole made the original suggestion to put the music challenge threads in a separate forum. I agree. Sometimes there are so many (they seem to come in groups) that other long time threads get pushed to back pages. And it takes real diligence to figure out if they're still around or have been archived (to who knows where?). Later To make it easier to find "who knows where" I've added links to the Deep Archives on the Crane Pool Companion from each forum that has an arvhive.You may also find them here: http://www.getalifealready.com/cpf/archives/.

Nymr83 Jul 07 2006 02:57 PM

Willets Point wrote: So I'm gathering the consensus here is that people want to bitch and moan about how everything is wrong with this forum and how the admins keep them down but don't want anyone to do anything about it. That's fucking peachy, thanks! thats the problem with these things, the majority remains silent because they are happy the way things are, the bitching and moaning come from the small but loud minority who arent happy.

sharpie Jul 08 2006 04:39 PM

I'm for keeping it as is. I find the Schaffer and IGT threads clutter up that baseball board far more than BLC threads do here.

Elster88 Jul 08 2006 04:40 PM

"No changes" with one more vote than the other three choices combined.

Nymr83 Jul 08 2006 07:41 PM

sharpie wrote: I'm for keeping it as is. I find the Schaffer and IGT threads clutter up that baseball board far more than BLC threads do here. there could always be a seperate forum for the whole schaffer thing with the discussion thread stickied to the top of said forum. i don't find the IGTs to be a problem, they get buried FAST and are rarely bumped (as the voting threads are for votes) after the day of the game