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LONDON WINS!!!!!!!!!!

Johnny Dickshot Jul 06 2005 08:00 AM

2012 Games. Next: a NYC-Paris Superbrawl for 2016!

Yancy Street Gang Jul 06 2005 08:07 AM

London's a nice city. Good for them. Remind me: where are the 2008 games going to be?

seawolf17 Jul 06 2005 08:08 AM

Wow... I bet Paris is pretty surprised right now.

seawolf17 Jul 06 2005 08:09 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Remind me: where are the 2008 games going to be? I believe they will be held in East Toad Suck, CT.

Edgy DC Jul 06 2005 08:09 AM

The Games of the 2008 Olympiad will be in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Northern Gateway to the Shenandoah.

seawolf17 Jul 06 2005 08:13 AM

Edgy DC wrote: The Games of the 2008 Olympiad will be in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Northern Gateway to the Shenandoah. And in a tribute to the locals, they've added square dancing, possum hunting, and honky tonking as exhibition sports.

metirish Jul 06 2005 08:51 AM

Good for London, 2008 games will be held in Beijing China

sharpie Jul 06 2005 08:53 AM

London winning screws Paris out of 2016, they're not giving it to a European capital twice in a row. NYC vs. Moscow, with a surprise other contender (maybe somewhere in South America).

seawolf17 Jul 06 2005 09:24 AM

We're assuming that NYC will win the US nomination again. It's very possible that someone else could come in there with a competitive bid. Perhaps LA again? If they can get an NFL team between now and then, I'd think they'll have a very good shot.

Frayed Knot Jul 06 2005 09:32 AM

London?!?!? Doesn't the IOC know that their bridge is rumored to be falling down - and how can they possibly trust any of the sporting venues once that news is confirmed?

sharpie Jul 06 2005 09:36 AM

Seawolf is right though San Francisco would be more likely than LA a second time.

MFS62 Jul 06 2005 02:16 PM

BFD, the more important question is does this impact the new stadium for the Mets in any way? Id so, how? Later

Iubitul Jul 06 2005 02:31 PM

It impacts the new Mets stadium only in that it will be built for the baseball dimensions only. The plan called for the stadium to be expanded for the main Olympic stadium if NYC won the bid. Since it will be mainly privately financed (City and State will kick in for infrastructure), the new stadium will still be built.

soupcan Jul 06 2005 02:42 PM

I wonder though if it will still be built with Olympic expansion (NYC2016) in mind.

MFS62 Jul 06 2005 03:06 PM

Thanks. Start building the new Shea now. We can always worry about Olympic expansion after the fact. Later

soupcan Jul 06 2005 03:11 PM

How about if we just don't worry about Olympic expansion at all?

Willets Point Jul 08 2005 08:46 AM

Baseball loses!!!!

Elster88 Jul 08 2005 09:07 AM

I was surprised that I really don't care that baseball was removed from the Olympics. I was glad that softball was removed, now we don't have to hear about some 33 year old mother of three who is the best hitter on the USA softball team for hours at a time in the next Summer Olympics.

cooby Jul 08 2005 09:20 AM

This doesn't bother me either. It all seemed like a travesty anyway once they opened it to pro players (basketball too, but that must be safe for now). It was nice to have another glimpse at Tommy Lasorda though, I always liked him

Edgy DC Jul 08 2005 09:42 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 08 2005 10:03 AM

I think some sports -- like soccer, and perhaps baseball and basketball -- tend to have trouble staging both an Olympic championship, and a non-Olympic national world championship, because the Olympics no longer defining themselves as an amateur enterprise (good, I think, but now what are they?) has made it difficult to draw a clear distinction between the Olympic champion and the national world champion crowned by the sport's own international governing body. Then there are individual sports, like golf and tennis, that compete internationally as a matter of course. How do the Olympics distinguish themselves as more than just another tournament?

metirish Jul 08 2005 09:53 AM

Rugby is hotly tipped to become an Olympic sport.

Willets Point Jul 08 2005 11:53 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Then there are individual sports, like golf and tennis, that compete internationally as a matter of course. How do the Olympics distinguish themselves as more than just another tournament? In 2012, Olympic tennis will be played at Wimbledon presumably a month or so after the Wimbledon tournament. It can't be all that different at all.

cooby Jul 08 2005 11:58 AM

It was always kinda a neat thing, athletes putting off becoming pro (including the Ice Capades!) in order to participate in one more Olympics, but it just doesn't happen any more, and I think the Olympics are much less interesting now.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2005 02:35 PM

The problem with requiring amateurism for the Olympics is that the whole concept became a sham. Actually, it was a sham from the beginning and merely became more of one over time as the amount of money increased (the money that was kept from teh athletes as much as possible) and as different cultures maintained different (and usually phony) definitions of what constituted an amateur. The problem with baseball as an olympic sport (and tennis, and golf, and soccer, etc) is that the olympics are best at those sports where the olympics is that sport's biggest moments. But an olympic victory will never match (or even approach) the World Series, or soccer's World Cup, and golf & tennis whose seasons revolve around their major championships. Softball is actually a bigger loss here since that is that sport's spot to shine. But, unfortunately, none of this has anything to do with why these specific sports are being dropped, It's that they don't have enough backing among the IOC's European-based power center. And it's not about streamlining the games - something they make noises about every once in a while - since they're discussing adding other (mostly silly) sports to replace the ones they're deleting.

metirish Jul 08 2005 03:13 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 08 2005 03:17 PM

shit, why can't I post here

cooby Jul 08 2005 03:16 PM

Well that certainly came through loud and clear

metirish Jul 08 2005 03:21 PM

Yeah, it would wouldn't it, anyway , the IOC also rejected five other sports when it kicked out BB and SB,with these two slots available in 2012 rugby, squash, karate, golf and roller sports were hoping to get in, didn't happen.

Frayed Knot Jul 09 2005 02:11 PM

P.S. Another one of the reasons that I think baseball got the drop-kick is that we (and most of the other countries) would NOT send our best players. All of the whining about how our bully hoops pros were (once upon a time anyway) beating up on dinky foreign squads missed the point that it was the IOC that really wanted them, not that we were dying to send them because we no longer wanted to risk losing. The IOC - who long ago put the SHAM in Shamateurism - was never shy about how to make a buck. Besides, baseball takes too long to play, doesn't always fit into neat schedules, and takes up space in large stadiums. And no, MLB should NEVER volunteer to "save" their sport from deletion by doing what the NHL did and interrupt their season to send players to the olympics. That was a not-so-tacit admission by the NHL that they valued a 2-week circus - one in which they ween't even the main attraction - over their own season.

Edgy DC Jul 12 2005 12:04 PM

The mayor of Paris ways they are withdrawing, and instead says he'd like to support a bid by a Southern Hemisphere city.

Willets Point Jul 12 2005 04:53 PM

Doubtful they would have two consecutive European summer olympics anyhow.

Edgy DC Jul 12 2005 05:10 PM

There's always the Goodwill Games.

Willets Point Jul 12 2005 05:11 PM

Or the Gay Games.