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IGT 07/18/2006, Mets at Reds

KC Jul 18 2006 05:54 PM

Mike Pelfrey, RHP (1-0, 3.60) Mets (55-37) =red]Eric Milton, LHP (6-4, 5.19) =red]Reds (49-44)

KC Jul 18 2006 06:06 PM

Reyes SS Lo Duca C Beltran CF Delgado 1B Wright 3B Floyd LF Nady RF Valentin 2B Pelfrey P Denorfia RF Dunn LF Griffey, Jr. CF Aurilia 3B Hatteberg 1B Phillips 2B Clayton SS LaRue C Milton P

SteveJRogers Jul 18 2006 06:12 PM

Reyes return. Heh, only a few years back morons on WFAN and ESPN Radio would have suggested Reyes would be sidelined for the year and it was a career threatning injury! "Oh but he won't be able to grip the bat right!"

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 06:59 PM

SteveJRogers wrote: Reyes return. Heh, only a few years back morons on WFAN and ESPN Radio would have suggested Reyes would be sidelined for the year and it was a career threatning injury! "Oh but he won't be able to grip the bat right!" What?

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:02 PM

Keith said that Reyes has "vowed never to slide head-first again". I think he must have meant into first.

metirish Jul 18 2006 07:05 PM

Yeah I think he meant into first base, we'll see how long that lasts, sounds like an easy bet to win with reyes.

KC Jul 18 2006 07:09 PM

Is reminiscing about what morons might have called radio stations about two years ago less moronic that the act of reminising about these things in an IGT on the internet? Just asking. Golly, I hope I spelled reminiscing right or I'm gonna look all doody-headed.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:15 PM

Reyes' last swing looked awful, but maybe I only think that because he popped up. 13 pitches to the first two hitters, so far.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:28 PM

A Cohen Fun-Fact: Delgado: .454 with 15 RBI in the 9-1 road trip. .192 with 8 RBI since.(21 games) __________________________________________ A weak K.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:38 PM

Reyes grimacing in pain with every play.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:39 PM

Mediumly hit grounder. Reyes back hands but throws wide. Delgado's swipe tag missed.

Willets Point Jul 18 2006 07:39 PM

Delgado goes for the smooth behind-the-back swipe. Doesn't work. Still looked cool

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:41 PM

Reyes got yelled at for not wearing a hat while taking grounders today.

KC Jul 18 2006 07:44 PM

I'm grimacing re-reading what I actually hit the submit button on above.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:45 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 18 2006 07:46 PM

First and third with two out: HELL of a stop by LoDuca. The curve was literally five feet outside. Lo Duca caught it on one hop cleanly to save a run. And the runner on first was stealing so Lo Duca was preparing to hop up. Great play that would never be remembered, but for the Crane Pool IGTs.

Willets Point Jul 18 2006 07:46 PM

Brutha, can we can an out?

Willets Point Jul 18 2006 07:47 PM

Amen!

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:47 PM

Cohen: LaRue hates you. Keith: ... Cohen: He was a huge Houston fan growing up. Keith: Oh, I thought you were getting personal. Hurt my feelings. Cohen: He hates you, Lenny, the whole group.

Willets Point Jul 18 2006 07:47 PM

="KC"]I'm grimacing re-reading what I actually hit the submit button on above.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:50 PM

KC wrote: I'm grimacing re-reading what I actually hit the submit button on above. I agreed with it.

TransMonk Jul 18 2006 07:50 PM

X goes KABOOM! Abre-who?

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:51 PM

My main lady, Nady.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 07:51 PM

Keith just called Pelfrey a tall drink of water.

Zvon Jul 18 2006 07:58 PM

im slippin- missed a

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:00 PM

6-5-3 on Griffey. Third DP through 3. Way to be Pelfrey.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:04 PM

The Mets are flying out with reckless abandon.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:06 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 18 2006 08:13 PM

Great AB by Beltran in the fourth.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:11 PM

Have any of the American Idols not sucked?

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:12 PM

AFLAC: The only two Met pitchers to win their first and second (career) starts: Selma and Gentry. Keith says Selma taught him to throw the old Vaselineball.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 08:13 PM

Elster88 wrote: AFLAC: The only two Met pitchers to win their first and second (career) starts: Selma and Gentry. Keith says Selma taught him to throw the old Vaselineball. That was great - I love listening to Keith...

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:21 PM

The gophers are biting Milton.

TransMonk Jul 18 2006 08:21 PM

Valentin goes KABOOM! 2-0 Mets.

Zvon Jul 18 2006 08:22 PM

VALENTIN!

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:26 PM

The Reds keep the team banners in the same order as the standings. Nice.

Gwreck Jul 18 2006 08:26 PM

Nice awkard moment when Keith notes that the '86 reunion at Shea is coming up in about a month. K: "Everybody's going to be there, except those coaching in the major leagues right now...Roger McDowell, he can't make it, he's the pitching coach for Atlanta....and Lee Mazilli, with the Yankees. K and G: [long awkward pause, as there's clearly another reason why someone else won't be there]

Gwreck Jul 18 2006 08:27 PM

Elster88 wrote: The Reds keep the team banners in the same order as the standings. Nice. I never knew that either, I thought Wrigley was the only place.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:27 PM

SNY emitting a buzzing. Keith comments on it quietly.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:27 PM

Gwreck wrote: Nice awkard moment when Keith notes that the '86 reunion at Shea is coming up in about a month. K: "Everybody's going to be there, except those coaching in the major leagues right now...Roger McDowell, he can't make it, he's the pitching coach for Atlanta....and Lee Mazilli, with the Yankees. K and G: [long awkward pause, as there's clearly another reason why someone else won't be there] When does he get out.

KC Jul 18 2006 08:30 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 18 2006 08:31 PM

I have to admit I mumbled under my breath when Keith said, "why wouldn't you go and revel in the glory?" .... "kinda hard when you're in the joint"

Gwreck Jul 18 2006 08:31 PM

Elster88 wrote: When does he get out. It was a probation violation, so it was a 1 year sentence, dating from April. I think he can get out after 7 months, so November at the earliest.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:35 PM

2 on, 2 out. 3-2 pitch. A 96 MPH fastball...Dunn was not close. Pelfrey earned a strong slap on the rear from his skipper.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 08:38 PM

Gwreck wrote: ="Elster88"]When does he get out. It was a probation violation, so it was a 1 year sentence, dating from April. I think he can get out after 7 months, so November at the earliest. He's dead to me.

Gwreck Jul 18 2006 08:39 PM

Nice call by Chris Cotter!

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:39 PM

Huh. Cotter was telling a story as LoDuca doubled down the line, so he just called the play. Not bad but he always sounds like he's yelling at me.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:40 PM

Iubitul wrote: ="Gwreck"] ="Elster88"]When does he get out. It was a probation violation, so it was a 1 year sentence, dating from April. I think he can get out after 7 months, so November at the earliest. He's dead to me. I'm sure he's sorry that the substance abuse problem that has ruined his life is bothering you.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 08:46 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="Iubitul"] ="Gwreck"] Elster88 wrote: When does he get out. It was a probation violation, so it was a 1 year sentence, dating from April. I think he can get out after 7 months, so November at the earliest. He's dead to me. I'm sure he's sorry that the substance abuse problem that has ruined his life is bothering you. Well, I don't give a rat's ass what either of you think. Let his sorry ass rot in jail - he's certainly not a victim here.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 08:47 PM

Mets up 3-0 going into the bottom of the 6th...

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:48 PM

Never said he was a victim. I may have dripped a little too much sarcasm in my post.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 08:50 PM

and I may have missed the amount of sarcasm...

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 08:55 PM

Open memo to NL pitchers: Do not walk Jose Reyes.

Zvon Jul 18 2006 09:00 PM

Reds reach Pelfrey for a run in the 6th. 3-1 Mets.

TheOldMole Jul 18 2006 09:00 PM

Nady maybe saves the win for Pelfrey.

Zvon Jul 18 2006 09:01 PM

And another, but Clayton is thrown out trying to advance. 3-2 Mets. Pelfrey up to 96 pitches .

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:04 PM

Top 7, Valentin bunting for a hit with a runner on first....pops it up, but instead of waiting for it to come down, Larue dives. After he missed he bats the ball sideways with his glove.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:05 PM

I'll take that out of Pelfrey. Every time.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:05 PM

Great bunt by Marrero. Hard and down the third base line.

TheOldMole Jul 18 2006 09:08 PM

Does "an ERA over 8" qualify as "struggling"?

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:10 PM

Am I the only one confused that LoDuca is being pitched around to get to Beltran with two outs? I guess because Beltran is .218 as a righty.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:11 PM

My God. I was right the first time. What a fucking bomb.

TheOldMole Jul 18 2006 09:12 PM

TransMonk Jul 18 2006 09:12 PM

Carlos goes KABOOM! No, the other one. Gland Slam...again.

Zvon Jul 18 2006 09:13 PM

their mistake! HAHAHA BELRAN A GRANNY!

Johnny Dickshot Jul 18 2006 09:13 PM

Wham. Whoops! You're an embarrassment to the Benson Bunch.

metirish Jul 18 2006 09:14 PM

That was a monster shot, MVP ?, or is he a " comeback player of the year" candidate?( SC=100)

Zvon Jul 18 2006 09:14 PM

I read his hurt knee was only bothering him when batting righty--- so that may have been their thinking. Fools. ;)

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:16 PM

More on Selma from Gary: His second start was a 13-K 10-inning shutout.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 09:17 PM

Lot's of good stuff coming from the booth tonight - Keith was definitely relishing talking about "clutch" hitting...

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:19 PM

So how many Mets have hit grand slams in back to back games?

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:22 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 18 2006 09:28 PM

LoDuca drops a foul pop leaning over the railing into the Red dugout. That runner got on base, and moved to second on a tapper. As Bradford gets pulled by Willie, LoDuca apologized to him. He also apologized to Pelfrey before for not blocking a wild pitch. What a nice man. I know Dunn and Junior are coming up, but did he really need to pull Bradford with a five run lead and two out? I guess if Dunn homers then it's a 3-run game.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:22 PM

I think we first heard "Looper" out of JB at this park last year.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 09:23 PM

Elster88 wrote: So how many Mets have hit grand slams in back to back games? Gary just mentioned Robin Ventura's grand slams in both ends of a double-header in 1999 - I can't believe I didn't remember that...

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:24 PM

I'm on the money today.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:25 PM

Iubitul wrote: Lot's of good stuff coming from the booth tonight - Keith was definitely relishing talking about "clutch" hitting... They're at the top of their games today. Great stuff. Though I'd MUCH rather listen to Sterling's theatrics and have Waldman burst my eardrums and claw my brain.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 09:27 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="Iubitul"]Lot's of good stuff coming from the booth tonight - Keith was definitely relishing talking about "clutch" hitting... They're at the top of their games today. Great stuff. Though I'd MUCH rather listen to Sterling's theatrics and have Waldman burst my eardrums and claw my brain. Ok - I caught that sarcasm... Either that, or you are really a masochist...

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:28 PM

Eardrums are overrated.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:30 PM

Two words can sum up the stats we just saw on the Red bullpen: "they" and "suck". No wonder they made that gawd-awful Kearns trade.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 09:31 PM

Mets up 7-3 going into the 8th... Wright works out a walk to lead off the 8th

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 09:31 PM

Elster88 wrote: Two words can sum up the stats we just saw on the Red bullpen: "they" and "suck". No wonder they made that gawd-awful Kearns trade. yes - they are really desperate to win now...

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:32 PM

The Braves are up 10-1 on the St. Louis... ...through 5.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 09:33 PM

Freaking Braves are putting a serious on St. Louis - they are up 10-1... They have scored 61 runs in their last 5 games...

metirish Jul 18 2006 09:36 PM

Keith.... "anytime you have Jose Valentin hitting 8th that's making a statement"... Who would have thought anyone would have been saying that about Jose after his terrible start.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 18 2006 09:38 PM

]Gary just mentioned Robin Ventura's grand slams in both ends of a double-header in 1999 - I can't believe I didn't remember that... It was a Sunday afternoon early season DH IIRC. ]Lot's of good stuff coming from the booth tonight - Keith was definitely relishing talking about "clutch" hitting... They're at the top of their games today. Great stuff. Though I'd MUCH rather listen to Sterling's theatrics and have Waldman burst my eardrums and claw my brain. Though I was about to remark how little the bunt accomplished that inning except create the very clutch situation they spoke of. Moments before Keith was telling us Marrerro's sac bunt was an example of "the little things the Mets do to win." I was flipping between the Mets and MFY games on myu radio earlier. Waldman was on her knees over how fantastic Ponson was in the first inning, right until he let two guys on and surrendered a 3r HR to Sexy.

Zvon Jul 18 2006 09:39 PM

Elster88 wrote: The Braves are up 10 Cripes-again?

Willets Point Jul 18 2006 09:39 PM

="Iubitul"]Freaking Braves are putting a serious on St. Louis - they are up 10-1... A serious what? Yahoo Serious?

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:42 PM

metirish wrote: Keith.... "anytime you have Jose Valentin hitting 8th that's making a statement"... Who would have thought anyone would have been saying that about Jose after his terrible start. Exactly. Until this year the statement would've been "We need a new shortstop."

metirish Jul 18 2006 09:43 PM

]Exactly. Until this year the statement would've been "We need a new shortstop." LOL...smart ass.

TransMonk Jul 18 2006 09:44 PM

metirish wrote: Keith.... "anytime you have Jose Valentin hitting 8th that's making a statement"... Who would have thought anyone would have been saying that about Jose after his terrible start. I remember during the Padres series in April, their announcers mentioned that having Jose Valentin on the bench was making a statement as he would be a starter on 26 out of 30 teams. I remember mocking them on this very board for that commentary. I was wrong.

Frayed Knot Jul 18 2006 09:49 PM

="Iubitul"]Lot's of good stuff coming from the booth tonight - Keith was definitely relishing talking about "clutch" hitting... Yeah, but he also shows a (possibly intentional) misunderstanding of what those 'sabrematricians' (he practically spits when he uses that term) are talking about when they discuss the concept of "clutch".

metirish Jul 18 2006 09:51 PM

]Yeah, but he also shows a (possibly intentional) misunderstanding of what those 'sabrematricians' (he practically spits when he uses that term) are talking about when they discuss the concept of "clutch". I have heard Keith say more than a few times that he's "old school", and we know that those guys hate sabr.

Nymr83 Jul 18 2006 09:52 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 18 2006 09:54 PM

]I remember during the Padres series in April, their announcers mentioned that having Jose Valentin on the bench was making a statement as he would be a starter on 26 out of 30 teams. I remember mocking them on this very board for that commentary. I was wrong. you were right. if we'd released him at the time i'd have to think he'd be unable to find an immediate MLB job and would have to hit at AAA for someone to get another shot. he's been hitting very well lately, but i think he's over his head and i pray that we look for a 2Bman (though not before we shore up the rotation) this offseason. edit- added quotation because there are now other posts after it and before mine

Frayed Knot Jul 18 2006 09:52 PM

]It [the Ventura 2 GS DH] was a Sunday afternoon early season DH IIRC. It was a DH (Milwaukee) but not a Sunday. Was a mid-week make-up deal.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:52 PM

A 3-4-3 play ends the home eighth. Not a double play. The ball bounced off Delgado.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 09:54 PM

Elster88 wrote: A 3-4-3 play ends the home eighth. Not a double play. The ball bounced off Delgado. Just your routine 3-4-3 putout...

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 09:55 PM

Zvon wrote: ="Elster88"]The Braves are up 10 Cripes-again? Yup. Now 13-2.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 18 2006 09:57 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ]It [the Ventura 2 GS DH] was a Sunday afternoon early season DH IIRC. It was a DH (Milwaukee) but not a Sunday. Was a mid-week make-up deal. I must have been off that day then, cuz I l watched it at a bar downtown.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 09:58 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: ="Frayed Knot"] ]It [the Ventura 2 GS DH] was a Sunday afternoon early season DH IIRC. It was a DH (Milwaukee) but not a Sunday. Was a mid-week make-up deal. I must have been off that day then, cuz I l watched it at a bar downtown. According to [url=http://ultimatemets.com/metannual.php?ThisYear=1999&tabno=3]Ultimate Mets Database[/url], the date was May 20.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 10:00 PM

Who played center for last year? Because it sure wasn't this guy.

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 10:01 PM

"Let's Go Mets" can be heard all over this ballpark.

Edgy DC Jul 18 2006 10:03 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 18 2006 10:04 PM

So, this Bray guy is who the Reds pulled off that seemingly lopsided trade to get. Still looking lopsided. "Clutch theory" is probably not nearly the settled question among the new statisticians as all that.

Iubitul Jul 18 2006 10:03 PM

Elster88 wrote: Who played center for last year? Because it sure wasn't this guy. This guy wasn't healthy last year...

Elster88 Jul 18 2006 10:11 PM

Great IGT tonight fellas. I'm out.

Edgy DC Jul 18 2006 10:13 PM

Carlos Beltran... ...you had a Whale of a Night.

metirish Jul 18 2006 10:13 PM

Yeah great IGT,and a great game....Beltran is sick.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 18 2006 10:17 PM

Nice encouraging win.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 18 2006 10:21 PM

I have to say, I kinda feel bad for poor Eric Milton. He obviously has good stuff, but just isn't precise enough a few times each night, and always pays through the nose for it. That said, if I were Narron I'd have employed that new bullpen sooner. IIRC, the last time the Mets faced Milton the very same thing happened: Quite effective for a while until the inevitable HRs started raining.

Frayed Knot Jul 18 2006 10:23 PM

]the date was May 20. A Thursday that was. I rmemeber it was a weekday only because I was listening to part of it while walking with my radio to the Subway.

Zvon Jul 18 2006 10:24 PM

Elster88 wrote: Great IGT tonight fellas. I'm out. It was a nice win. I wasnt all here tonight but when i did pop in i appreciated your play discriptions El88. Really, thnx. Beltran is DaMan! I sure wish Delgado would start hitting again.(oh fer five--Yow)

metirish Jul 18 2006 10:24 PM

So guys how do we access Pelfrey tonight, 98 pitches and six innings.

Edgy DC Jul 18 2006 10:32 PM

Dickshot has too much sympathy for the bunchers. Jerry Narron was the Yankee catcher the day after Thurman Munson died, right?

Zvon Jul 18 2006 10:37 PM

metirish wrote: So guys how do we access Pelfrey tonight, 98 pitches and six innings. I didnt actually see how he was throwing so i dunno- but Id take a performance like that out of a rookie on his 2nd start anytime. He walked afew ,but spread out the hits and did pitch out of jams. like i said, i didnt see, but i like what I read.

Willets Point Jul 18 2006 10:48 PM

metirish wrote: So guys how do we access Pelfrey tonight, 98 pitches and six innings. I'll take that from a #4/5 pitcher any day.

SteveJRogers Jul 18 2006 10:59 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]Reyes return. Heh, only a few years back morons on WFAN and ESPN Radio would have suggested Reyes would be sidelined for the year and it was a career threatning injury! "Oh but he won't be able to grip the bat right!" What? Just a little laughing at the face of people who thought Reyes would be injury prone his entire career and would never play 120+ games in his career Kind of the same as people wondering when Vlad Guerrero's back is going to give out Maybe it really was the medical staff's fault! SC=2004

Elster88 Jul 19 2006 08:50 AM

]There were two on and two out in the fifth inning Tuesday night, and Mike Pelfrey was one errant pitch from walking the Reds slugger Adam Dunn to load the bases for Ken Griffey Jr. Pelfrey had thrown four consecutive fastballs, the last three out of the strike zone, but he needed to clear his head before rifling his fifth. So he bent to retie the laces on his right shoe, spending about 20 seconds. Then, with similar care, he got Dunn to foul off another fastball, then wave at a sailing 96-mile-an-hour heater to end the threat Gary and Keith talked about the laces too, and compared it to Franco tying his on the mound all the time.

Elster88 Jul 19 2006 09:04 AM

]Facing a daunting lineup (the Reds lead the National League in homers) at a hitter-friendly stadium, Pelfrey allowed seven hits — all singles — and permitted only two fly balls. He walked three and struck out three while throwing 98 pitches (he threw 104 in five innings in his last start) in making the sort of progress the Mets anticipated and Pelfrey expected.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 19 2006 09:24 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Dickshot has too much sympathy for the bunchers. Nah. Maybe for the manager and fans who have to put up with Milton. It's got to be maddening to have a guy with such ability always being a second away from ruining your night.

Willets Point Jul 19 2006 09:26 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: It's got to be maddening to have a guy with such ability always being a second away from ruining your night. I'd say that feeling is not too unfamiliar to us.

metirish Jul 19 2006 09:59 AM

Pelfrey on the shoe lace thing... ] Asked if he was using the time to compose himself, Pelfrey offered a different lesson. "The shoelace kept coming undone," he said. "I talked to [Tom] Glavine and he said between now and my next start he's going to show me how to tie a double knot so I don't have that problem."