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IGT 7-30-2006 Mets go for the sweep in Atlanta

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 08:34 AM

We walked on the beach beside that old hotel
They're tearing it down now
But it's just as well
I haven't shown you everything a man can do
So stay with me baby
I've got plans for you

This is the time to remember
Cause it will not last forever
These are the days
To hold on to
Cause we won't
Although we'll want to
This is the time
But time is gonna change
You've given me the best of you
And now I need the rest of you

Did you know that before you came into my life
It was some kind of miracle that I survived
Some day we will both look back
And have to laugh
We lived through a lifetime
And the aftermath

This is the time to remember
Cause it will not last forever
These are the days
To hold on to
Cause we won't
Although we want to
This is the time
But time is gonna change
I know we've got to move somehow
But I don't want to lose you know

Sometimes it's so easy
To let a day
Slip on by
Without even seeing each other at all
But this is the time you'll turn back and so will I
And those will be the days you can never recall

And so we embrace again
Behind the dunes
This beach is cold
On winter afternoons
But holding you close is like holding the summer sun
I'm warm from the memory of days to come

This is the time to remember
Cause it will not last forever
These are the days
To hold on to
But we won't
Although we'll want to
This is the time
But time is gonna change
You've given me the best of you
But now I need the rest of you

Willets Point
Jul 30 2006 08:57 AM

"Go(ing) for the sweep" in IGT thread title seems to always lead to a loss.

KC
Jul 30 2006 09:07 AM

Songs that start IGT's are supposed to inspire some ass kicking, not some
toilet bowl grasping thow up ...

Beat on the brat
Beat on the brat
Beat on the brat with a baseball bat
Oh yeah, oh yeah, uh- oh
What can you do?
What can you do?
With a brat like this always on your back
What can you do? (lose? )

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 30 2006 09:47 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 30 2006 09:56 AM

]Songs that start IGT's are supposed to inspire some ass kicking, not some
toilet bowl grasping thow up ...


LOL. Everything I know about Mojo suggests that post-Stranger Billy Joel songs, particularly the same lame ballad two days in a row, spells "lengthy trip to the disabled list" or something worse.

We must win in spite of Billy.

However, you MAY NOT change the insipid song lyrics, nor alter the thread title, in an attempt to "undo" the dark spell cast. We're just gonna hafta overcome it.

]One!-Two!-Three!-Four!-Five!-Six!

Roadrunner, roadrunner
Going faster miles an hour
Gonna drive past the Stop n' Shop
With the radio on

I'm in love with Massachusetts
And the neon when it's cold outside
And the highway when it's late at night
Got the radio on
I'm like the Roadrunner

Alright...

I'm in love with modern moonlight
128 when it's dark outside
I'm in love with Massachusetts
I'm in love with the radio on
It helps me from being alone late at night
It helps me from being lonely late at night
I don't feel so bad now in the car
Don't feel so alone, got the radio on
Like the Roadrunner
That's right

Said welcome to the spirit of 1956
Patient in the bushes next to '57
The highway is your girlfriend as you go by quick
Suburban trees, suburban speed
And it smells like heaven
And I say Roadrunner once
Roadrunner twice
I'm in love with rock & roll and I'll be out all night
Roadrunner
That's right!

Well now...
Roadrunner, Roadrunner!
Going faster miles an hour
Gonna drive to the Stop 'n' Shop
With the radio on at night
And me in love with modern moonlight
Me in love with modern rock & roll
Modern girls and modern rock & roll
Don't feel so alone, got the radio on
Like the Roadrunner
O.K., now you sing Modern Lovers!

(Radio On!)
I got the AM
(Radio On!)
Got the car, got the AM!
(Radio On!)
Got the AM sound, got the...
(Radio On!)
Got the rockin' modern neon sound!
(Radio On!)
I got the car from Massachusetts, got the...
(Radio On!)
I got the power of Massachusetts when it's late at night
(Radio On!)
I got the modern sounds of modern Massachusetts
(Radio On!)
I've got the world, got the turnpike, got the...
(Radio On!)
I've got the, got the power of the AM!
(Radio On!)
Got the... late at night, rock & roll, late at night
(Radio On!)
The factories and the auto signs got the power of modern sounds
(Radio On!)
Alright

Right, bye bye!

Willets Point
Jul 30 2006 09:49 AM

That was my Senior Prom theme.

KC
Jul 30 2006 09:55 AM

No disrespect to your teenage memories meant, and I'm fully aware that
there Billy Joel fans here and I don't mean to insult them either.

Willets Point
Jul 30 2006 10:01 AM

KC wrote:
No disrespect to your teenage memories meant, and I'm fully aware that
there Billy Joel fans here and I don't mean to insult them either.


None taken, just stating a fact. It was hard to dance to.

KC
Jul 30 2006 10:09 AM

If you're on the highway and the road runner goes "Beep-beep",
Just step aside or you might end up in a heap.
Road runner, road runner, runs down the road all day,
Even the coyote can't get in his way!

Road runner, that coyote's after you!
Road runner, if he catches you you're through!

That coyote's really a crazy clown.
When will he learn that he never can mow him down?
Road runner, road runner, never bothered anyone,
Running down the road's his idea of having fun!

Road runner, that coyote's after you!
Road runner, if he catches you you're through!

That coyote's really a crazy clown.
When will he learn that he never can mow him down?
Road runner, road runner, never bothered anyone,
Running down the road's his idea of having...
Fun, fun, fun, fun!
Fun, fun, fun, fun!
Fun!

Iubitul
Jul 30 2006 10:17 AM

Now that's going to be stuck in my head all day...

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 11:01 AM

Wrong thread

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 12:20 PM

Lineup time

Mets
Reyes SS
Lo Duca C
Beltran CF
Delgado 1B
Wright 3B
Nady RF
Floyd LF
Valentin 2B
Glavine P

Braves
Willy Aybar 3B (making his Brave debut)
Marcus Giles 2B
Edgar Renteria SS
Andruw Jones CF
Jeff Francoeur RF
Brian McCann C
Matt Diaz LF
Adam LaRoche 1B
"Don't call me Rick" Chuck James, "B***h" P

KC
Jul 30 2006 12:22 PM

Reyes ss
Lo Duca c
Beltran cf
Delgado 1b
Wright 3b
Nady rf
Floyd lf
Valentin 2b
Glavine p

Aybar 3b
Giles 2b
Renteria ss
Jones A cf
Francour rf
McCann C
Diaz lf
LaRoche 1b
James p

OE: I'm old, slow, and white ...

Iubitul
Jul 30 2006 12:35 PM

KC wrote:
OE: I'm old, slow, and white ...


But not annoying...

cooby
Jul 30 2006 12:39 PM

Or clueless

GYC
Jul 30 2006 12:44 PM

Floyd scratched due to sore achilles tendon; Woodward in left and in same lineup spot.

KC
Jul 30 2006 01:05 PM

Not happy news re: Floyd - that can nag and nag and nag and bark for weeks.

KC
Jul 30 2006 01:14 PM

Delgado Kabooms the Mets to a 2-sniffle lead. Gee, first inning runs -
what a strategy.

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 01:14 PM

KA BOOM DELGADO


395 Lifetime

Edgy DC
Jul 30 2006 01:24 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
LOL. Everything I know about Mojo suggests that post-Stranger Billy Joel songs, particularly the same lame ballad two days in a row, spells "lengthy trip to the disabled list" or something worse.


="GYC"]Floyd scratched due to sore achilles tendon; Woodward in left and in same lineup spot.


Holy Crap!

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 01:29 PM

3-0 Mets after an inning.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 01:31 PM

missed a kaboom-dagnabbitt.

Yesterday I had a house full of people (wasnt gonna stop me from watching the game) and I was running in here on homers to post KaBooms-

people think I'm caaaaaarazy.


Good start today.

Edgy DC
Jul 30 2006 01:33 PM

Let go. It counts with or without you.

Braves are wearing their red softball jerseys. Heck, guys, act like you care.

Edgy DC
Jul 30 2006 01:35 PM

Hard fought at-bat produces a hit for Glavine while the guy in the booth for Atlanta was specuatling that he'd whiff intentionally to get the at-bat over with.

Glavine isn't the non-professional. You're confusing him with yourself.

Edgy DC
Jul 30 2006 01:36 PM

As Reyes hits, McDowell picks up the phone, presumably to ask Frank Cashen if there's any room for him in the Mets' system.

Edgy DC
Jul 30 2006 01:38 PM

Bases loaded with Beltran/Delgado/Wright coming up... perhaps as daunting a prospect as there might be in baseball right now.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 01:40 PM

="Edgy DC"]Let go. It counts with or without you.


It does?

lol--


Edgy DC
Jul 30 2006 01:40 PM

Well, it's not that daunting any more.

Everybody who has ever booed Beltran, please pinch yourselves.

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 01:40 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 30 2006 01:42 PM

Nymr83
Jul 30 2006 01:41 PM

there was alot of applause after the homerun, have Met fans taken over Turner Field?

Nymr83
Jul 30 2006 01:41 PM

shrink that thing steve.

KC
Jul 30 2006 01:43 PM

Braves going to the pen in the second! You know what that means ....

























... bad news for the Braves. It's too early to post it in the game, but I wouldn't
mind someone digging up the four bagheads should our fortune continue.

martin
Jul 30 2006 01:48 PM

i cant believe how many grand salamis!

its like a sausage fest in there.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 01:48 PM

KC wrote:
Braves going to the pen in the second! You know what that means ....



Yes--it means Im going to have an awful fantasy baseball day.
:)
But Ill trade that for a sweep of the Braves anyday.

Edgy DC
Jul 30 2006 01:49 PM

I come to bury Braves, not to praise them.

Gwreck
Jul 30 2006 01:52 PM

Attention Keith Hernandez: Missouri is surrounded by Eight states, not five. Tennessee is surrounded by just as many.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 01:55 PM

Even the double plays are ripped hard.

The Mets have definately changed whatever positive mindset the Braves may have had In terms of going for the division this weekend.

We didnt need to chop em up---but it sure it shhhhhhhweet.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 02:10 PM

.....So they got afew runs.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 02:15 PM

Valentin with a lead off double talks right back to em.

Glavine set to bunt--fails to get it down and wiffs.

And Reyes hits a line single to right so hard Val has to stop at third..

Does Jose steal second?
Braves think he might with the pitchout there.

He does steal second!
They cant call that indifference there, can they?

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 02:15 PM

Bases loaded once again for Beltran.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 02:18 PM

Not this time Carlos--the other Carlos gets a chance.

Keith is sharp today-"2 and 0,sacks drunk...."

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 02:20 PM

Delgado gets an RBI for the bases loaded walk. 8-3 Mets :)

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 02:22 PM

Darn - Mr. Wright just misses a grand slam.

Yes - I'm selfish....

KC
Jul 30 2006 02:41 PM

This game is kinda boring.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 02:45 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 30 2006 02:45 PM

Valentin now has two doubles on the day.

And after that grand slam earlier, Beltran has now homered in six of the last seven contests vs. the Braves.

MVP time is going to be interesting- especially if Wright gets back into his primo groove between now and seasons end.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 02:45 PM

I can live with this kind of boring. Especially in Atlanta.

Beats the friggin' ulcers of the past several years ;)

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 02:47 PM

Yea-this is a good kind of boring.

And this game aint over--Id expect the Braves to make some noise before the days end.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 02:51 PM

As if on cue, they have runners on 2nd and 3rd in the bottom of the 4th.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 02:55 PM

...and over in Philly Utley keeps that streak going.

Im not afraid to tell ya--I really like that Utley guy. Everything about him.
He plays the game the way it should be played.

have you heard about how he is handling post games interviews when asked about his streak?
He's ignoring the questions and giving answers relating to events that happened in the game.

A reporter will ask- "Do you feel the pressure of the streak? Can you keep it going?"
And he'll answer- " I think Howards homer was the big hit today--He's hittin the ball real well. We have a good team here and we just have to play hard and keep getting good swings and we are in any game...."

He ignores them and answers a question he feels should have been asked-I love it.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 02:55 PM

Crap - blink and the lead is cut to 8-6!

Darren Oliver is loosening up in the bullpen. Glavine isn't going to get out of this one with a win.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 02:56 PM

The 4th inning is finally over. The Mets lead is down to 2.

KC
Jul 30 2006 02:58 PM

Alright alright, Atlanta - you have my attention back. Sheesh.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 02:58 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote:
Glavine isn't going to get out of this one with a win.


This would be a real shame.

But he's gotta do his part--he was spotted 7.

he gets the third out--- but up to 100 pitches.
Do we give him the chance since he got out of that with the lead?
or just bring Oliver right in next half?

I say let him start the inning in the 5th.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 03:01 PM

How can Reyes swing at that low inside slider--how can he be so fooled on that pitch.
He constantly is too.

If he sees the ball start to take a dip---just lay off.

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 03:02 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 30 2006 03:03 PM

32nd Kaboom for Beltran

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 03:02 PM

wow

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:02 PM



Beltran's 4th homer in the past two days - wow!

9-6 Mets.

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 03:04 PM

Delgado, He wasn't even supposed to BE here today!

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 03:05 PM

SteveJRogers wrote:
Delgado, He wasn't even supposed to BE here today!


LOL

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:05 PM

With runners on the corners and two out, the Braves go to the pen for their third pitcher of the day.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:09 PM

X-Man's fly out ends the inning. 9-6, going to the bottom of the 5th.

This has the makings of a long afternoon. At least the Mets have the day off tomorrow to rest up.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:11 PM

Oliver comes in to pitch the 5th.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:20 PM

After striking out the first two in the inning, a hit and a walk bring the tying run to the plate.

Fasten your seatbelts - this day is far from over.

Whew - Wright's throw to second wasn't beautiful, but it was good enough to get the final out of the inning. 9-6, going to the 6th.

I still would keep those seatbelts fastened.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:27 PM

Ex-Met Tyler Yates pitches a quick 1-2-3 top of the 6th for Atlanta.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 03:28 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote:

I still would keep those seatbelts fastened.


I learned always to wear a seatbelt, back in the 70's, before it was a law.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:36 PM

Bradford is pitching the bottom of the 6th. Gary Cohen speculates that Willie may use a lot of pitchers today, to give them some work.

One on, two out.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:41 PM

Feliciano comes in with runners on the corners, two out.

Gary's going on about Feliciano's problems stranding inherited runners this year. Oh great.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:42 PM

Whew! Feliciano strikes out LaRoche and strands the two runners.

9-6 after 6.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 03:42 PM

Feliciano with the K and the great job keeping the Braves in check!
Whew.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:49 PM

Tyler Yates pitches another impressive 1-2-3 inning.

It's time for the 7th inning stretch.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:56 PM

Feliciano gives up a 2-out double in the 7th and is replaced by Heilman.

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 03:57 PM

And SK becomes JK!

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 03:59 PM

Renteria grounds out to end the 7th.

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 04:02 PM

[url=http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B10160NYN1969.htm]In honor of SK being Koos, here is Koos' finest hour[/url]

metirish
Jul 30 2006 04:04 PM

Delgado beats the shift for his fourth hit....

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 04:05 PM

SteveJRogers wrote:
[url=http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B10160NYN1969.htm]In honor of SK being Koos, here is Koos' finest hour[/url]


I think he even pitched better in game two of the '69 series.

Beat the birds 2-1 with a two hitter.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 04:11 PM

Blech - the Mets had runners on first and third with none out, and strand them.

9-6, onto the bottom of the 8th.

Iubitul
Jul 30 2006 04:22 PM

we should start doing the tomahawk chop at Shea the next time the Mets are beating the Braves at home..

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 04:22 PM

Once again, after two outs, the Braves get two runners on base and bring the tying run to the plate.

Enter Sandman, with two out in the 8th.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 04:23 PM

Iubitul wrote:
we should start doing the tomahawk chop at Shea the next time the Mets are beating the Braves at home..


Why? Because the Braves have us where they want us?

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 04:23 PM

Again the Braves get the tying run to the plate.


And Wagner will be called on to get the 4 out save.

Come on Billy!

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 04:25 PM

Whew! Wagner strikes out LaRoche to end the 8th.

How about some insurance runs here?

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 04:25 PM

Wags makes a fool out of LaRoche!
Ha--great pitches there.

Iubitul
Jul 30 2006 04:25 PM

and once again, LaRoche is overmatched against Wagner...

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 04:31 PM

LoDuca's bloop single brings home Endy Chavez for a 10-6 Mets lead :)

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 04:36 PM

On to the bottom of the 9th - Mets up by 4.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 04:41 PM

Wagner looked wicked on Pratt!

Iubitul
Jul 30 2006 04:43 PM

ABG
Jul 30 2006 04:43 PM

Ballgame. Sweep.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 04:43 PM

Thats the way to end it!
Strike em out-throw em out double play!

YEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWW.

A hatchet to the head of the Braves!

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 04:43 PM

YES! The Mets win the game on a strike-em-out/throw-em-out DP!

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 04:44 PM

KC
Jul 30 2006 04:51 PM

With an off-day tomorrow July is over, and all I'm gonna say is we got a
beautiful little thing going on. Can't wait for Friday night, Shea is gonna be
rockin' once again. Finally.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 04:58 PM

KC wrote:
With an off-day tomorrow July is over, and all I'm gonna say is we got a
beautiful little thing going on. Can't wait for Friday night, Shea is gonna be
rockin' once again. Finally.


You said it man.
And apparently all is quite on the trade front- or thats the last Ive heard from Willie (in todays paper).
Good times

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 04:58 PM

I'm almost tempted to change the song on Tuesday. Miami 2017...uh scratch that...We Didn't Start The Fire....uh maybe not...Fire Sale maybe!

Nah, gotta stick with the Karma

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 04:59 PM
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Holy shit--scratch that--THE (CRAP__thought it said Mets!)GET ABREU!

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 05:00 PM

The New York Yankees acquired Abreu and starting pitcher Cory Lidle from the Phillies for four minor league prospects, according to media reports on July 30, 2006.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 05:00 PM

What are you talking about Zvon - the MFYs got Abreu and Lidle today.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 05:02 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote:
What are you talking about Zvon - the MFYs got Abreu and Lidle today.


I just clicked over to yahoo and read it wrong---Whew.
Good- we dont need Abreu-i dont think he fits in here.

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 05:05 PM

I was looking for this:


BELTRANS THE MAN!

Zvon
Jul 30 2006 05:09 PM

And this:
Beltran, Mets tie records for grand slams in month

ATLANTA (AP) -Mets center fielder Carlos Beltran tied a major league record Sunday with his third grand slam this month.

Beltran's second-inning slam was his 31st homer and New York's record-tying sixth slam this month. The drive gave the Mets a 7-0 lead and broke the club record for most homers by a center fielder in a season. Beltran came up in the third with the bases loaded again and struck out.

Beltran added his 32nd homer in the fifth inning for his fourth multihomer game of the season.

Beltran became the ninth player in major league history to hit three grand slams in a calendar month, according to the Elias Sports Bureau. Devon White was the last major leaguer to accomplish the feat, doing it for Milwaukee in May 2001.

The Mets' six slams this month matches the major league record set by the Montreal Expos in April 1996 and matched by Cleveland in May 1999.

Mike Cameron's 30 homers in 2004 was the Mets' previous single-season record for a center fielder.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 30 2006 05:45 PM

The more I think about this game, the more it sinks in just what a great win it was.

Sure, a laugher would have been fun. But this is ultimately much better.

If the Braves merely had their asses handed to them, they would have been able to shake it off and regroup more easily. Instead, they kept on getting closer, kept on bringing the tying run to the plate, kept on staying within reach - only to keep slipping back to the bottom of the mountain like Sisyphus. In the long run, that kind of a defeat has to be more demoralizing than simply getting beat.

What a beautiful day!

SteveJRogers
Jul 30 2006 05:49 PM

I see it as the revenge of the 2004 trade deadline sweep, pretty much the exact point you can say the 2006 Mets were born!

Whats that Klingon probverb about revenge is a dish being best served cold? Heh, it shall be a very cold October in Atlanta!

metirish
Jul 30 2006 07:08 PM

So Oliver got the win today, I didn't know until Gary pointed it out that when a pitcher fails to go 5 innings but leaves with the lead then it's up to the official scorer to say who gets the win, and well he chose Oliver.

Elster88
Jul 31 2006 09:08 AM

Edgy DC wrote:
Let go. It counts with or without you.

Braves are wearing their red softball jerseys. Heck, guys, act like you care.


I don't like the blood red jerseys.

Elster88
Jul 31 2006 09:09 AM

="Gwreck"]Attention Keith Hernandez: Missouri is surrounded by Eight states, not five. Tennessee is surrounded by just as many.


How in the world did this topic come up?

Elster88
Jul 31 2006 09:10 AM

Zvon wrote:
="ScarletKnight41"] Glavine isn't going to get out of this one with a win.


This would be a real shame.


Not really. If he can't hold a seven run lead through 5, he doesn't deserve a win. IMHO.

Elster88
Jul 31 2006 09:12 AM

I liked Willie's bullpen usage today.

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 31 2006 09:13 AM

Well, I'd say it's shame on Glavine. Getting an early 7-0 lead should have been an easy win for him, and another notch closer to his 300. But he couldn't do it.

I wonder if he was annoyed at Willie for removing him? I think Willie did the right thing. Glavine could easily have allowed the Braves to tie the game if he had pitched the 5th inning.

Edgy DC
Jul 31 2006 09:28 AM

You don't win all those games by blaming the manager when you know aren't cutting it.

Elster88
Jul 31 2006 09:30 AM

Willie was great with the bullpen. Bringing in Wagner to slam the door was very nice.

Speaking of Wagner, he's been a lot better recently, no? Where'd that bullpen thread go?

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 31 2006 09:32 AM

Yes, he has been better. The two blown saves in April, plus the meltdown against the Yankees gave us a bad taste, but for the most part he's been getting it done.

Gwreck
Jul 31 2006 09:47 AM

="Elster88"]
="Gwreck"]Attention Keith Hernandez: Missouri is surrounded by Eight states, not five. Tennessee is surrounded by just as many.


How in the world did this topic come up?


It came out of a discussion regarding whether the Braves would be able to keep their attendance up even if their performance goes down. I think Gary characterized Atlanta as "more of a football and NASCAR town." Chris Cotter noted that Atlanta had become a regional team, drawing from Alabama, South Carolina, Tennessee, etc.

Keith then went on to say that St. Louis was like that, because, "it's the only state surrounded by five others." He then goes on to name them -- Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, Nebraska, and Arkansas (getting the last one with help from Gary).

Gary seemed impressed.

Only problem? Missouri is indeed the state surrounded by the most number of other states -- tied with Tennessee -- but that number is 8, not 5. He forgot Kansas, Oklahoma and Iowa. There are several other states "surrounded by 5 others" including Illinois and Massachusetts.

Edgy DC
Jul 31 2006 09:53 AM

Keith is probably working with Civil War-era maps.

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 31 2006 09:57 AM

Pennsylvania borders six states:

Going clockwise from the most important one: New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Ohio.

Frayed Knot
Jul 31 2006 10:00 AM

I was chuckling during that whole conversation and I'm not sure which was worse; Keith getting it wrong, or Ivy League Gary saying how he always learns something new from Keith.
"Hey, I'm going to teach that one to my kids"

The only thing I can think of as an excuse is that St Louie - being on the east side of the state - considers those 5 states part of their immediate "territory" (Keith mentioned it because the Cards always had the players doing off-season fan tours in those states) while Kansas & Oklahoma, being on the west side and all, are kinda far away for easy trips (although it still doesn't explain dissing Iowa).
Of course in the pre-expansion years, the Cards were MLB's westernmost & southernmost team and, as a result of that plus the powerful signal of KMOX radio, they had fans from Indiana to the Rocky Mts and the Dakotas on down to Texas.

cooby
Jul 31 2006 10:03 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
Pennsylvania borders six states:

Going clockwise from the most important one: New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Ohio.



I was thinking five; I forgot WV

Frayed Knot
Jul 31 2006 10:06 AM

Name the only one of the lower 48 that borders only 1?

Iubitul
Jul 31 2006 10:08 AM

Maine.

Frayed Knot
Jul 31 2006 10:14 AM

Iubitul is definitely a Maine-iac.

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 31 2006 11:03 AM

Sorry I'm so late
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Elster88
Jul 31 2006 11:04 AM

="Johnny Dickshot"]Sorry I'm so late
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There he is.

Edit: Oops, new page. Reposting pic.

Elster88
Jul 31 2006 12:20 PM