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BLC: Huey Lewis & the News vs. Tom Petty's Heartbreakers

Elster88
Jul 21 2006 03:32 PM

[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F4RHB6/sr=8-1/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]1) The Heart of Rock and Roll[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F4RHB6/sr=8-1/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]2) Do You Believe in Love[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F4RHB6/sr=8-1/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]3) Jacob's Ladder[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F4RHB6/sr=8-1/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]4) I Want a New Drug[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F4RHB6/sr=8-1/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]5) Perfect World[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002HNV/sr=8-3/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]6) Workin' For a Livin'[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F4RHB6/sr=8-1/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]7) Stuck With You[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F4RHB6/sr=8-1/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]8) Back in Time[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F4RHB6/sr=8-1/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]9) Couple Days Off[/url]
[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F4RHB6/sr=8-1/qid=1153509962/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7327944-0284942?ie=UTF8]10) The Power of Love[/url]

Willets Point
Jul 21 2006 03:33 PM

That's Heartbreaking News.

Elster88
Jul 21 2006 03:33 PM

About as far on the opposite end of the spectrum from GNR as you can get. Shooting high to start, so I can rechallenge next go round in case of defeat.

Elster88
Jul 21 2006 03:35 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 21 2006 04:40 PM

There's actually a decent selection of average-to-good 80's pop songs in there. But I fear I'm setting Huey up for a blowout.

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 21 2006 03:40 PM

Take me away, I don't mind

Edgy DC
Jul 21 2006 04:28 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 21 2006 04:40 PM

Contemporary matchup.

vs.

"The Heart of Rock and Roll"vs."American Girl"
"Do You Believe in Love"vs."Don't Come Around Here No More"
"Jacob's Ladder"vs."Don't Do Me Like That"
"I Want a New Drug"vs."Listen to Her Heart"
"Perfect World"vs."You Got Lucky"
"Workin' For a Livin'"vs."Here Comes My Girl"
"Stuck With You"vs."Refugee"
"Back in Time"vs."The Waiting"
"Couple Days Off"vs."Even the Losers"
" The Power of Love"vs."Learning to Fly"
Interesting Fact: Hugh Anthony Cregg III had awesome SATs and got admitted to Cornell, but he knew he wanted to be a rock 'n' roller when he taught himself to play blues harp while hitchhiking to New York from San Francisco.
Interesting Fact: Elvis Presley came to Ocala, Florida to film Follow That Dream. Young Tommy Petty travelled 25 miles to watch the filming and knew he wanted to be a rock 'n' roller when he actually got to meet the King.

metirish
Jul 21 2006 04:34 PM

"The Heart of Rock and Roll" vs. "American Girl" - Tie

"Do You Believe in Love" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" - Huey Lewis

"Jacob's Ladder" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" - Petty

"I Want a New Drug" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" - Pette

"Perfect World" vs. "You Got Lucky" - Petty

"Workin' For a Livin'" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" - Huey Lewis

"Stuck With You" vs. "Refugee" - Heuy Lewis

"Back in Time" vs. "The Waiting" - Tie

"Couple Days Off" vs. "Even the Losers" - Petty

" The Power of Love" vs. "Learning to Fly" - Huey Lewis

And's it's a tie for me...5 each.

Edgy your " interesting facts" is cool, Lewis used to pal around with Thin Lizzy back in the day and he was great frinds with Lynott, he can be heard on " live & Dangerous" playing harmonica.

HahnSolo
Jul 21 2006 04:34 PM

Heart of Rock and Roll v. American Girl TOM
Do You Believe in Love v. Don't Come Around Here No More HUEY
Jacob's Ladder v. Don't Do Me Like That TOM
I Want a new Drug v. Listen to Her Heart TOM
Perfect World v. You Got Lucky TOM
Workin for a Livin v. Here Comes My Girl HUEY
Stuck with You v. Refugee TOM
Back in Time v. The Waiting TOM
Couple Days off v. Even the Losers TOM
The Power of Love v. Learning to Fly TOM

I actually listen to Huey when he hits my radio. But that doesn't help any here.

TOM 8, HUEY 2

TransMonk
Jul 21 2006 04:39 PM

"The Heart of Rock and Roll" vs. "American Girl"
"Do You Believe in Love" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More"
"Jacob's Ladder" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That"
"I Want a New Drug" vs. "Listen to Her Heart"
"Perfect World" vs. "You Got Lucky"
"Workin' For a Livin'" vs. "Here Comes My Girl"
"Stuck With You" vs. "Refugee"
"Back in Time" vs. "The Waiting"
"Couple Days Off" vs. "Even the Losers"
" The Power of Love" vs. "Learning to Fly"

TP and the Heartbreakers win 9-1 over HL and the News

Willets Point
Jul 21 2006 04:39 PM

I loved Huey back in the day. I think "Power of Love" was once at the top of my favorite songs of all time list. Then that album with "Hip to Be Square" and "Couple of Days Off" came out and I thought "What the hell is this?" Then the older stuff didn't sound as good either. Then again I never liked Petty that much so this should be interesting and nostalgic.

"The Heart of Rock and Roll" vs. "American Girl" Huey Lewis and the News
"Do You Believe in Love" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
"Jacob's Ladder" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" Huey Lewis and the News -although the Bruce Hornsby version is better.
"I Want a New Drug" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" Huey Lewis and the News - Remember Ray Parker's "Ghostbusters" with the same tune?
"Perfect World" vs. "You Got Lucky" Tie
"Workin' For a Livin'" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
"Stuck With You" vs. "Refugee" Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
"Back in Time" vs. "The Waiting" Huey Lewis and the News
"Couple Days Off" vs. "Even the Losers" Tie
" The Power of Love" vs. "Learning to Fly" Tie

Huey Lewis and the News 5.5:4.5 Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers

Willets Point
Jul 21 2006 04:43 PM

]Are you still thinking "Perfect World" vs. "You Got Lucky" over?


Don't like either of them much so they tie by default.

seawolf17
Jul 21 2006 04:43 PM

I dig the hell out of this matchup.

"The Heart of Rock and Roll" vs. "American Girl" Petty - I love both.
"Do You Believe in Love" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" Petty - This one could go either way too, but bonus points to Petty for the video.
"Jacob's Ladder" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" Huey - Love it, love it, love it. Good tune.
"I Want a New Drug" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" Huey
"Perfect World" vs. "You Got Lucky" Huey
"Workin' For a Livin'" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" Huey
"Stuck With You" vs. "Refugee" Huey
"Back in Time" vs. "The Waiting" Petty
"Couple Days Off" vs. "Even the Losers" Huey
"The Power of Love" vs. "Learning to Fly" Huey - YEAH, Back To The Future! Dig it, despite LTF being one of my favorite Petty songs.

Almost all of these could have gone either way for me. This battle goes to Huey & Friends, 7-3. ("If This Is It," "Hip To Be Square," and "It's Alright" would probably have scored points for me also.)

Edgy DC
Jul 21 2006 04:46 PM

"The Heart of Rock and Roll" vs. "American Girl"
TP&tH

"Do You Believe in Love?" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More"
TP&tH

"Jacob's Ladder" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That"
HL&tN

"I Want a New Drug" vs. "Listen to Her Heart"
TP&tH

"Perfect World" vs. "You Got Lucky"
TP&tH

"Workin' For a Livin'" vs. "Here Comes My Girl"
TP&tMFH

"Stuck With You" vs. "Refugee"
Yikes. TP&tH

"Back in Time" vs. "The Waiting"
TP&tH

"Couple Days Off" vs. "Even the Losers"
TP&tH

"The Power of Love" vs. "Learning to Fly"
It's "Learning to Fly" vs. "Hello, McFly." How can I choose? Tie.

8.5-1.5

Willets Point
Jul 21 2006 04:50 PM

]It's "Learning to Fly" vs. "Hello, McFly." How can I choose? Tie.


Classic.

So you only award one full point to the song written by another musician with a "and the" band.

Elster88
Jul 21 2006 05:01 PM

It was tough with Huey. There are few surefire songs that had to be included. The majority are very similar in appeal.

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 21 2006 06:03 PM

Elster88 wrote:
It was tough with Huey. There are few surefire songs that had to be included. The majority are very similar in appeal.


I think that quality will eventually separate the elite the massive middle.

I think edgy senses the same thing with TP&H, I do with the Pretenders to an extent, Squeeze, etc etc down the line.

Onto the voting:

The Heart of Rock and Roll" vs. "American Girl"
--Petty. These tunes that shout out to cities I've always found incredibly pandering. Plus there's something odd about Huey Lewis speaking for rock and roll. Not a bad song -- but American Girl is better.

"Do You Believe in Love" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More"
--No but I believe in life after love! No. Petty wins. Hey!

"Jacob's Ladder" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That"
--I like the Huey entry here and I'll give it to 'em

"I Want a New Drug" vs. "Listen to Her Heart"
--Petty! I don;t believe Huey used drugs.

"Perfect World" vs. "You Got Lucky"
--Petty

"Workin' For a Livin'" vs. "Here Comes My Girl"
--Petty.

"Stuck With You" vs. "Refugee"
--SWY is so cheesy it was recently purchased by the state of Wisconsin. Tom.

"Back in Time" vs. "The Waiting"
--Tom wins. Soft spot for BTTF and all.

"Couple Days Off" vs. "Even the Losers"
--I realized the other day that while I don't respond strongly to the chorus in 'Losers' it has one of TP's best verse structures. I'd like to mash-up with the chorus from 'Change of Heart' if it could work. THAT'd be a song, brother! BTW, Petty wins.

"The Power of Love" vs. "Learning to Fly"
--I like the version Marty McFly's band plays at the audition (and admire Huey for his turn as the megaphone guy informing them "It's just too darn loud."). Score it reluctantly for the News

8-2 for Tom Petty. I was prolly too cruel to Huey, saying Eddie Money was better. Well, Huey has more depth I admit. But to me it sounds awfully dated and there wasn't much beyond a kinda nice-guy-bar-band vibe to them: What about this band was special and not replicable? As noted above I also thought they fished for popularity a little too transparently, a clear violation of cool which I shouldn't be weighing except where it interferes with the message I get from the music. Hmmm... Huey = Hootie?

sharpie
Jul 21 2006 10:35 PM

"The Heart of Rock and Roll" vs. "American Girl" TOM
"Do You Believe in Love" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" TOM
"Jacob's Ladder" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" TOM
"I Want a New Drug" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" Close, but TOM
"Perfect World" vs. "You Got Lucky" TOM
"Workin' For a Livin'" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" TOM
"Stuck With You" vs. "Refugee" TOM
"Back in Time" vs. "The Waiting" TOM
"Couple Days Off" vs. "Even the Losers" TOM
" The Power of Love" vs. "Learning to Fly" HUEY

TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS 9
HUEY LEWIS & THE NEWS 1

One would think that I'm a Tom Petty fan from my ballot, but no. Huey doesn't do it for me.

Rockin' Doc
Jul 22 2006 10:16 AM

Heart of Rock and Roll v. American Girl - HL & the News - Closest call of the contest - probably should have declared this one a tie.
Do You Believe in Love v. Don't Come Around Here No More - TP & the Heartbreakers
Jacob's Ladder v. Don't Do Me Like That - HL & the News
I Want a new Drug v. Listen to Her Heart - HL & the News
Perfect World v. You Got Lucky - TP & the Heartbreakers
Workin for a Livin v. Here Comes My Girl - HL & the News
Stuck with You v. Refugee - TP & the Heartbreakers
Back in Time v. The Waiting - TP & the Heartbreakers
Couple Days off v. Even the Losers - TP & the Heartbreakers
The Power of Love v. Learning to Fly - TP & the Heartbreakers

Tom Petty earns the victory by a score of 6-4.

A Boy Named Seo
Jul 22 2006 05:56 PM

Heart of Rock and Roll v. American Girl - TP & the Heartbreakers
Do You Believe in Love v. Don't Come Around Here No More - TP & the Heartbreakers
Jacob's Ladder v. Don't Do Me Like That - TP & the Heartbreakers
I Want a new Drug v. Listen to Her Heart - HL & the News
Perfect World v. You Got Lucky - TP & the Heartbreakers
Workin for a Livin v. Here Comes My Girl - TP & the Heartbreakers
Stuck with You v. Refugee - TP & the Heartbreakers
Back in Time v. The Waiting - HL & the News
Couple Days off v. Even the Losers - TP & the Heartbreakers
The Power of Love v. Learning to Fly - HL & the News

7-3 Petty.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2006 09:01 PM

]Hmmm... Huey = Hootie?


This was at the heart of my defense of all the attacks on Hootie and the Blowfish in the 90s. You found them to be a dorky intrusion on all the better stuff that was going on in the 90s? Try being young when Huey Lewis was putting out half a dozen singles every summer.

H&tBf's biggest flaw was having the dorkiest name ever. Call them Retrovirus and they inspire no such ire. The second single off their breakthrough album was about a hopeless love for a junkie chick, just like the Black Crows.

Rockin' Doc
Jul 22 2006 10:53 PM

One of Hootie's biggest problems was that Darius Rucker's limited range as a lead singer. His vocals sounded the same in virtually every song so to some extent all their songs started to sound very similar. There was little diversity in their offerings.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2006 11:04 PM

I think he was and is all right. If he was in a soul act and not a rock one, he'd have taken none of the abuse.

metirish
Jul 22 2006 11:29 PM

I remember the summer of 95 when hootie was huge, I was just over here and it was great summer music for working on the building site....a few bands from that time became huge and then never got back tot hat...the Spin Doctors, Silverchair and Counting Crows come to mind.

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 22 2006 11:44 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote:
One of Hootie's biggest problems was that Darius Rucker's limited range as a lead singer. His vocals sounded the same in virtually every song so to some extent all their songs started to sound very similar. There was little diversity in their offerings.


I think he has a nice rich voice but that the material he had to sing was what limited him. My issue was that like Huey, who had an album called "Sports," Hootie pandered to the musically illiterate through ESPN, which offended my sensibilities as an elitist prick.

Dammit, I sure liked "Hold My Hand" though! Love it!

Elster88
Jul 23 2006 01:40 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
My issue was that like Huey, who had an album called "Sports," Hootie pandered to the musically illiterate through ESPN, which offended my sensibilities as an elitist prick.


Is that really the reason that he named his album "Sports"?

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 23 2006 07:10 PM

Elster88 wrote:
="Johnny Dickshot"]My issue was that like Huey, who had an album called "Sports," Hootie pandered to the musically illiterate through ESPN, which offended my sensibilities as an elitist prick.


Is that really the reason that he named his album "Sports"?


No idea. But I don't think it's wrong to say Huey was accessible and unashamed enough to knowingly court those who didn't necessarily identify themselves first as music snobs: Sports fans for one.

And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, unless you're a huge snobbish prick to whom the scent of such marketing interferes with an honest connection to the music. I think that happened some with Huey Lewis.

Edgy DC
Jul 23 2006 07:20 PM

Title of the big-time followup album: Fore!

Willets Point
Jul 23 2006 07:49 PM

With a name like the News, follow-ups to Sports should include Weather, Business, and Arts & Leisure or Style if he's a Washington Post reader.

Elster88
Jul 24 2006 07:45 AM

They started as the American Express or some such. Like the credit card.

Lundy
Jul 24 2006 09:25 AM

Heart of Rock and Roll v. American Girl - Tom Petty
Do You Believe in Love v. Don't Come Around Here No More - Huey Lewis
Jacob's Ladder v. Don't Do Me Like That - Huey Lewis
I Want a new Drug v. Listen to Her Heart - Huey Lewis
Perfect World v. You Got Lucky - Huey Lewis
Workin for a Livin v. Here Comes My Girl - Huey Lewis
Stuck with You v. Refugee - Tom Petty
Back in Time v. The Waiting - Huey Lewis
Couple Days off v. Even the Losers - Huey Lewis
The Power of Love v. Learning to Fly - Huey Lewis

I like both Huey Lewis and Tom Petty, but Huey wins this one 8-2.

Elster88
Jul 24 2006 11:27 AM

Heart of Rock and Roll v. American Girl - Tom Petty (though The Heart of Rock and Roll is one of Huey's most popular, I don't like it as much as some of the songs below. American Girl wins in a close battle)
Do You Believe in Love v. Don't Come Around Here No More - Huey Lewis
Jacob's Ladder v. Don't Do Me Like That - Huey Lewis (Step BY Step, Rung BYYYY Runnng - Learning what this song was actually about took away from my liking it, but it's my second favorite of Huey's slower songs)
I Want a New Drug v. Listen to Her Heart - Huey Lewis (Listen to Her Heart = bleh)
Perfect World v. You Got Lucky - Huey Lewis (Huey's older stuff gets overshadowed sometimes. I like this one a lot, and am curious how many people know it.)
Workin for a Livin v. Here Comes My Girl - Huey Lewis
Stuck with You v. Refugee - Huey Lewis (a little cheese can be a good thing, and this song invokes pleasant memories of a past g/f [not from the song contect itself obviously]. Besides I don't like Refugee much)
Back in Time v. The Waiting - Huey Lewis (Back in Time was rightly overshadowed by The Power of Love (in fact I'm surprised by the number of people who don't even know it) but a very good song, beats out the Waiting fairly easily)
Couple Days off v. Even the Losers - Tom Petty (never really liked this News tune a whole lot. May drop in any future challenges)
The Power of Love v. Learning to Fly - Huey Lewis (my favorite Huey song, probably b/c of the BttF influence at a young age when Marty (SLACKER!!!) cruising around on his skateboard seemed pretty damn cool. I put it as the last song because I was wondering about its overall appeal, but it will probably move up in any future challenges)

Huey wins 8-2. I guess I really don't like Petty that much. I'm surprised it came out 8-2, but it might just be how the matchups worked out.

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 24 2006 11:34 AM

Twelve ballots -- Now that's votin'

Petty leads 72-48

seawolf17
Jul 24 2006 11:37 AM

That's what happens when people sponsor bands that folks have actually heard of.

Elster88
Jul 24 2006 11:42 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
Twelve ballots -- Now that's votin'

Petty leads 72-48


Ouch. The landslide is on.

Elster88
Jul 24 2006 04:57 PM

This closes at 4:28 PM tomorrow, but unless a Whole Lotta Lovin...er... whole lotta Huey fans come flying out of the woodwork, this one is pretty much over.

sharpie
Jul 25 2006 04:29 PM

72-48 is your final. I do wish people wouldn't post interim scores since I think it suppresses voting. I could be wrong, but I think so.