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IGT 8/3/06 - Mets (Pedro) at Marlins (Dontrelle)

Gwreck Aug 03 2006 06:17 PM

New York Mets Reyes SS LoDuca C Beltran CF Delgado 1B Wright 3B Valentin 2B Woodward LF Milledge RF Pedro P Florida Marlins Hanley Ramirez SS Dan Uggla 2B Mike Jacobs 1B Miguel Cabrera 3B Josh Willingham LF Jeremy Hermida RF Cody Ross CF Miguel Olivo C Dontrelle Willis P

Gwreck Aug 03 2006 06:20 PM

FWIW, the lineup originally had: 4 - Wright 3B 5 - Franco 1B 6 - Marrero LF 7 - Valentin 2B Franco scratched with the Flu, Marrero scratched with a stiff neck.

KC Aug 03 2006 06:24 PM

The August flu in Florida has gotta suck bhmb's.

cooby Aug 03 2006 07:23 PM

Boy, these things really suffer without Steve

metirish Aug 03 2006 07:25 PM

Beltran is doing it all right now...Carlos just made a great catch at the wall in CF.

SteveJRogers Aug 03 2006 07:27 PM

cooby wrote: Boy, these things really suffer without Steve In midst of an Excel class mid-term review. Microeconomics coming up in an hour! Accreditation College stinks... IONA HERE I COME in 2007!

metirish Aug 03 2006 07:28 PM

]IONA HERE I COME in 2007! I'll say nothing...:)

SteveJRogers Aug 03 2006 07:29 PM

Getting alot of material for "Things I didn't say today" right now... GO PEDRO!

metirish Aug 03 2006 07:30 PM

Nothing quite like seeing a Pedro AB

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 07:30 PM

(I will not make fun of someone who's excited about going to Iona... I will not make fun of someone who's excited about going to Iona...) Nice catch by Beltran. What a season this guy's having.

SteveJRogers Aug 03 2006 07:33 PM

seawolf17 wrote: (I will not make fun of someone who's excited about going to Iona... I will not make fun of someone who's excited about going to Iona...) Nice catch by Beltran. What a season this guy's having. Fairfield U Class 1999 working on some biz courses gearing towards an MBA at some point. Live close to Iona so I'm going there shortly. Masters in Journalism, then MBA afterwards.

SteveJRogers Aug 03 2006 07:54 PM

Man I WISH I was watching tonights game right now... Nothing like a classic pitchers duel. Should have Tivoed the game... Microec is a better class though

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 08:01 PM

Just messin' with you. S'all good. Tough DP from Woodward in a spot where a hit would have been key. I'm disappointed with Woody this year; I feel like he's been a real hole in the roster, wherever he's played.

martin Aug 03 2006 08:55 PM

i dont think i have ever seen a more tired look on a player's face than flu-ridden 47-year-old 3-base-running franco.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 08:57 PM

Jacobs homers in the bottom of the sixth to give the Marlins the lead, then the flu-ridden Julio Franco singles to right pinch-hitting for Pedro in the top of the 7th... but the ball skips by Willingham in right, Franco chugging all the way to third base before passing out and dying. Reyes up with a chance to tie it up.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 08:57 PM

And he does with an RBI groundout. HUGE HUGE HUGE hustle play by Franco. Gotta love what he's done this year too.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 08:58 PM

We saw a little bit inside Dontrelle's psyche there; he got riled by a strike-three-that-wasn't to Julio Franco, then after the hit, ranted and raved on the mound until his teammates subdued him. He got out of the inning on a flyout to LoDuca, but continued barking at the umpire after the inning ended. Still would love to see him in the blue-and-orange.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:06 PM

Another beauty of a grab by David Wright, backhanded and on the short hop up the line to end the bottom of the seventh. Let's pick up some runs, boys.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:14 PM

Hey! The Mets grounded into another DP! That's fourteen GIDPs today, if you're scoring at home. Middle of the 8th, still 1-1.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:15 PM

I've never flown solo on an IGT before... this is both exciting and nerve-wracking all at the same time.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:18 PM

Keith and Gary have been obsessed with Miguel Olivo. We've learned two things, ad nauseam, about the Marlins' catcher: (1) He LOVES first-pitch fastballs, and therefore, those advance scouts have prepared the Mets well, because they're not throwing him any. (2) He "runs well for a catcher." What the hell does that mean? That's one of those baseball catchphrases that's just stupid. Either you run well, or you do not. Jose Reyes runs well; for a catcher, for a shortstop, for a leopard. I do not run well; not for a catcher, not for a third baseman, not for a 30-year-old assistant director of undergraduate admissions. There is really not much of an in-between, but Gary & Keith have been obsessing over it with Olivo for three nights.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:23 PM

Heilman allows Olivo to get a hit (on a first-pitch changeup), then a sac and a walk puts runners on 1st & 2nd with one out. Then K's Uggla. Sweet. Here comes Jacobs.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:23 PM

And he walks Jacobs to load 'em up for the ever-dangerous Miguel Cabrera, with the tying run on third base in the form of the speedy Miguel Olivo.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2006 09:23 PM

Mighta been a good idea to try Feliciano or Oliver or Ring there.

Elster88 Aug 03 2006 09:24 PM

Heilman.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2006 09:25 PM

Oh Jeezus. LoDuca suxxx at those plays at the plate.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:25 PM

Might have been a good idea if Sanchez hadn't gotten in that cab. A double down the line scores EVERYONE as LoDuca misses the tag! What the hell happened?!??! Ah, he dropped the ball. Sunuvabitch.

metirish Aug 03 2006 09:26 PM

Heilman three nights in a row, I don't think so....bollox

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2006 09:26 PM

Rally, you Mets: ] Well I wont back down, no I wont back down You can stand me up at the gates of hell But I wont back down Gonna stand my ground, wont be turned around And Ill keep this world from draggin me down Gonna stand my ground and I wont back down Hey baby, there aint no easy way out Hey I will stand my ground And I wont back down. Well I know whats right, I got just one life In a world that keeps on pushin me around But Ill stand my ground and I wont back down Hey baby there aint no easy way out Hey I will stand my ground And I wont back down No, I wont back down

Elster88 Aug 03 2006 09:27 PM

Jacobs foot kinda knocked it out of his glove.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:27 PM

I hate the Marlins. I feel like we go 4-15 against them every season.

Elster88 Aug 03 2006 09:28 PM

Actually it was in his throwing hand.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2006 09:28 PM

Not for nothin, but this'd be gravy time had Alpaca Boy not put us behind the 8-ball two nites ago.

Gwreck Aug 03 2006 09:28 PM

The ball was never in the glove -- it was in LoDuca's hand, which he put temporarily in his glove but he tagged the runner with the ball and it came loose after the tag. Ump was positioned badly. Bad call. Even worse that nobody bothered to argue.

Elster88 Aug 03 2006 09:29 PM

It was the right call. He knocked it out of his hand. He's safe.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:29 PM

I always thought "Billy Wagner's Llamas" would be a good name for either a band or a rotisserie team.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:33 PM

Can the Marlins sneak D-Train through waivers and send him north? They can have Heilman.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2006 09:35 PM

="Gwreck"]The ball was never in the glove -- it was in LoDuca's hand, which he put temporarily in his glove but he tagged the runner with the ball and it came loose after the tag. Ump was positioned badly. Bad call. Even worse that nobody bothered to argue. But how often has LoDuca failed to hold onto a throw at home plate? I can thionk of 3 or 4 he missed vs. that one nice block he made a week back or so. That's a difficult play to make but that's why they're catchers. Anyway, I miss Nady and really miss my boyfriend Duaner.

seawolf17 Aug 03 2006 09:37 PM

How about when the Padres are in town, we trick them into leaving Piazza behind? We'll sneak LoDuca into a PADRES 33 jersey and stick him in the visiting clubhouse, and stick the Mr. Met head on Piazza and sneak him out the back door.

Nymr83 Aug 03 2006 09:43 PM

seawolf17 wrote: How about when the Padres are in town, we trick them into leaving Piazza behind? We'll sneak LoDuca into a PADRES 33 jersey and stick him in the visiting clubhouse, and stick the Mr. Met head on Piazza and sneak him out the back door. eh..a better idea would be to stick Trachsel in a Padres Jersey and steal Peavy.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2006 10:04 PM

Not a good play by LoDuca who got caught in mid-transfer between glove hand and bare hand ... but it was an awful throw by Reyes who had all day to nail Jacobs and two-hopped a throw from just behind 3rd base.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2006 10:23 PM

I can take a lot about this. Not executing throw-and-tag plays drives me nuts. It nuttens me. It was something I couldn't get out when we were trying to phase out Piazza and phase in Jason Phillips. Phillips stunk those up, and LoDuca's giving me the miserables too. Ah, whatev.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2006 10:29 PM

For what it's worth, I always stunk catching and tagging with a runner bearing down on me also.

Elster88 Aug 03 2006 10:55 PM

Edgy DC wrote: For what it's worth, I always stunk catching and tagging with a runner bearing down on me also. Which is why you don't catch for the Mets.

seawolf17 Aug 04 2006 08:31 AM

Elster88 wrote: ="Edgy DC"]For what it's worth, I always stunk catching and tagging with a runner bearing down on me also. Which is why you don't catch for the Mets. I thought it was because Edgy's agent, Bean Stringfellow, demanded a no-trade clause and a merchandise tent.

Yancy Street Gang Aug 04 2006 09:04 AM

Regarding Franco's scratch from the starting lineup: How could it be the flu? I think too many little ailments get mislabeled as "the flu." I've had the flu twice in my life, and it knocks you out for a week. But you frequently hear about players missing one game because of "the flu" even when it's August and there's no flu going around. I figure it's a euphemism for "diarrhea" or "hangover" or "menstrual cramps" or something else that a player doesn't want the public to know about.

Edgy DC Aug 04 2006 09:09 AM

Usually, in those situations, it's labeled as "flu-like symptoms." He could have an actual dose of the flu, but perhaps a smaller one. Or he may yet be out a week. Plus these guys have the old cuttin'-edge medical care.

Elster88 Aug 04 2006 09:11 AM

Though I'm not sure what medical care can do for the flu. Edit: I'm Doc!!!

Edgy DC Aug 04 2006 09:12 AM

Congratualtions on 9700 freaking posts.

Yancy Street Gang Aug 04 2006 01:36 PM

During the telecast, the Marlins' version of Chris Cotter interviewed a 100-year-old Marlin fan celebrating his birthday in a luxury suite at the ballpark. The old guy was wearing a Marlins jersey and cap. (He didn't say much other than that he enjoys watching baseball because he loves the game. His voice wasn't all that strong.) The Marlins debuted only 13 years ago, when the man was 87 years old. I can't imagine picking up a rooting interest in a baseball team at the age of 87. I can't even imagine doing it now. My interest in the Mets is a remnant of my childhood that I haven't let go of. I don't anticipate ever becoming a fan of anyone else.

Edgy DC Aug 04 2006 01:48 PM

Yeah, it seems strange, but I imagine living in a town with no team makes you a little more open to adopting a favorite team late in life when your city finally gets a big-league team. There were reports of Babe Ruth's daughter, retired in Arizona, rooting aggressively for the Diamnondbacks in 2001 World Series, over the team associated with her father's legacy.

Yancy Street Gang Aug 04 2006 01:54 PM

Good for her!

Centerfield Aug 04 2006 01:58 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: During the telecast, the Marlins' version of Chris Cotter interviewed a 100-year-old Marlin fan celebrating his birthday in a luxury suite at the ballpark. Poor guy hasn't seen a World Championship since he was 97.

Elster88 Aug 04 2006 01:59 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Yeah, it seems strange, but I imagine living in a town with no team makes you a little more open to adopting a favorite team late in life when your city finally gets a big-league team. There were reports of Babe Ruth's daughter, retired in Arizona, rooting aggressively for the Diamnondbacks in 2001 World Series, over the team associated with her father's legacy. Might have been as much about the Yankees treating her father like shit as the nearness of the Snakes.

SteveJRogers Aug 04 2006 02:03 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="Edgy DC"]Yeah, it seems strange, but I imagine living in a town with no team makes you a little more open to adopting a favorite team late in life when your city finally gets a big-league team. There were reports of Babe Ruth's daughter, retired in Arizona, rooting aggressively for the Diamnondbacks in 2001 World Series, over the team associated with her father's legacy. Might have been as much about the Yankees treating her father like shit as the nearness of the Snakes. Or just a general blase feeling about her father. This is Julia right, not Dorothy?

Edgy DC Aug 07 2006 06:15 PM

Marlins trying to keep this series from being their last hurrah. Marlins hold 90-minute meeting after lost weekend Associated Press MIAMI -- The Florida Marlins' latest team meeting may have set franchise records for length and intrigue. When the Marlins open a nine-game trip Tuesday at Washington, they'll test anew the tenuous theory that clubhouse speeches help. Manager Joe Girardi kept the doors closed for nearly 90 minutes after Los Angeles completed a sweep of Florida on Sunday. Girardi said he spent most of the time talking to his young team. He termed the meeting a "learning session" rather than a scolding or pep talk, and players described his tone as positive. But there was speculation about a possible rift between Girardi and owner Jeffrey Loria, who was in the clubhouse much of the time it was closed. "We talked about things," Girardi said. "He's an owner who really wants to win." Through a spokesman, Loria declined to comment Monday. Alas for the Marlins, the series sweep by Los Angeles likely doomed their slim prospects in the NL wild-card race. After trailing by only four games as recently as Friday, they began this week six games back, with eight teams between them and wild-card leader Cincinnati. Not only did the Marlins lose three in a row to streaking Los Angeles, but they looked bad doing it. Worst in the majors in fielding, they committed five errors that led to four unearned runs. They went 3-for-25 with runners in scoring position and were outscored 23-7. The sweep was the first the Marlins have endured since May 19-21, shortly before beginning a midseason surge that has made them one of baseball's most surprising teams. "The way we played the last three days was awful," closer Joe Borowski said. Still, even at nine games under .500, Florida has exceeded all expectations. Baseball's youngest, lowest-paid team was widely projected to lose more than 100 games, and when the Marlins started 11-31, there was even talk that they might rival the storied 1962 New York Mets for ineptitude. Instead, from May 23 through Thursday the Marlins went 40-26, the best record in the National League during that span. But young teams are prone to late-season fades. "A lot of these guys haven't played through September," catcher Matt Treanor said. "Usually in the middle of August, guys are starting to think about offseason planning. But we've got a ways to go, and we're in the hunt. "Having everybody count us out early in the season, it would be great for us to finish near the top of our division and carry that over to next year." That was the thrust of Girardi's comments at the team meeting: Shrug off the frustration of the weekend, and gear up to defy expectations for another eight weeks. "It's the dog days of August," he said. "Obviously we had a setback, but Tuesday's a new day. I think guys are excited about our road trip and what's in front of us." The speech to the team was Girardi's first since July 30, after Florida lost a doubleheader in Philadelphia. "The next day we scored 15 runs," he said. "I hope the same effect happens."