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IGT 08/05, Phillies at Mets

KC Aug 05 2006 12:18 PM

Jon Lieber, RHP (4-8, 6.09) Phillies (53-55) =blue]Tom Glavine, LHP (11-4, 3.97) Mets (64-44)

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 01:13 PM

Line ups for todays game: Phillies Victorino RF Rowand CF Rollins SS Howard 1B Burrell LF Coste C Nunez 3B Sandoval 2B Lieber P =blue]Mets Reyes SS Milledge RF Beltran CF Delgado 1B Wright 3B Floyd LF Woodward 2B DeFelice C Glavine P Both starting second baseman, Utley and Valentin, are out of the line ups.

TransMonk Aug 05 2006 01:25 PM

Hoping for a good day out of Tommy G. I'd like to see that ERA for the year stay under 4.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 01:35 PM

Ugh.

cleonjones11 Aug 05 2006 01:38 PM

Mets are folding like a cheap tent. Glavine needs a turn off...bad..If they dont make the playoffs........

Zvon Aug 05 2006 01:38 PM

That darn Howard. A 3 run blast in the 1st. Mets down 3-0 before they even come to the plate.

cleonjones11 Aug 05 2006 01:39 PM

St. Louis-MFY World series..I see it coming

Iubitul Aug 05 2006 01:40 PM

cleonjones11 wrote: Mets are folding like a cheap tent. Glavine needs a turn off...bad..If they dont make the playoffs........ Some one should tell Jose - first pitch double...

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 01:41 PM

That lineup looks weak to me. But I still haven't been trained to think that Valentin is good.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 01:41 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 05 2006 01:43 PM

Reyes with a lead off double gets things started.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 01:41 PM

Bloop hit to right for Milledge.

Iubitul Aug 05 2006 01:42 PM

well, that was a quick answer - 3-1...

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 01:42 PM

Zvon wrote: Reyes with a lead off double gets started. A drive down the left field line that bounced out of play in the corner for a ground rule double.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 01:43 PM

Another bloop hit, this one for Beltran, off the glove of the second baseman as he ran to his left.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 01:47 PM

Nice play from Nunez saving a double down the line throws out Wright.

Iubitul Aug 05 2006 01:48 PM

Endy Chavez in for Floyd - it looks like Floyd got hurt on that play down the line...

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 01:48 PM

Chavez in for Floyd. Damn I'm glad we still have Nady.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 01:49 PM

Iubitul wrote: Endy Chavez in for Floyd - it looks like Floyd got hurt on that play down the line... I'm officially putting the fragile tag back on Floyd, in my own mind. He didn't even do anything on that play.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 01:50 PM

Iubitul wrote: well, that was a quick answer - 3-1... I like the quick answering back--but we really should get more than one out of this. oh carp--what a play by Phils 3rd baseman Nunez off of Wright. Floyd must have hurt himself on that play in the corner...Chavez in for him. He pops out. And we only do get 1 Ill take it- 3-1 Phools

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 01:59 PM

DiFelice coming out to "Burning Heart" by Survivor, available on the Rocky IV soundtrack.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 02:09 PM

Looks like Schaefer 6 is giving his all to give the Mets their best chance to win this game.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 02:10 PM

Rowand stranded at second after his one out double. Glavine gets Rollins and then Howard to fly out. Still 3-1 Phillies with the top of the order due up for the Mets in the home half of the third.

metirish Aug 05 2006 02:14 PM

Just in case you didn't know but the Colts will be playing the Rams thursday night on FOX........

Zvon Aug 05 2006 02:29 PM

Wrights inches away from snappin out of that funk. He pulled the ball hard twice today. Both nice plays by Phils 3rd baseman Nunez. I think Wrights locked and loaded.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 02:42 PM

That's a disturbing photoshop.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 02:42 PM

The Mets hitters are making Lieber look like Steve Carlton. He's John Freakin' Lieber!!! The league is hitting over .300 against him this season and his ERA is over 6. Wake up and pound this pretender.

metirish Aug 05 2006 02:43 PM

Have we had a hit since the first inning?

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 02:44 PM

Yea, but we Glavine on the mound. He's so good he doesn't need run support.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 02:50 PM

="Willets Point"]That's a disturbing photoshop. I dont deny it. Ugh-- Lastings with a nice diving effort but the ball wiggles out of his glove for a hit. He really should have gotten Howard for the force at second, but he hurls the ball in like a madman and Reyes has to make his own dive to stop it, far wide of second base. Glavine gets Coste to ground into the DP, 6-4-3. Top of the order.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 02:52 PM

Today's mojo-shifting rally song provided by the Divinyls: I love myself I want you to love me When Iīm feeling down I want you above me I search myself I want you to find me I forget myself I want you to remind me I donīt want anybody else When I think about you I touch myself I donīt want anybody else Oh no, oh no, oh no Youīre the one who makes me happy honey Youīre the sun who makes me shine When youīre around Iīm always laughing I want to make you mine I close my eyes And see you before me Think I would die If you were to ignore me A fool could see Just how much I adore you I get down on my knees Iīd do anything for you I donīt want anybody else When I think about you I touch myself I donīt want anybody else Oh no, oh no, oh no I want you I donīt want anybody else And when I think about you I touch myself Ooh, oooh, oooooh, aaaaaah

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 02:56 PM

Well, it's a baserunner at least.

metirish Aug 05 2006 02:56 PM

Rally song works as Mets get runners on the corners.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 02:56 PM

And a hit!

Zvon Aug 05 2006 02:57 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 05 2006 02:57 PM

Willets Point wrote: Well, it's a baserunner at least. ...and another.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 02:57 PM

Woo hoo, we have a base runner. Now we need Delgado to put a charge in one and it's a whole new ballgame.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 02:58 PM

Well, not quite what I was hoping for, but I'll take it. This would be a great time for Wright to break out of his funk.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 02:58 PM

HaHa--Wrights pop up drops in! 3-2

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 02:59 PM

Rockin' Doc is even further behind than I am. Just need to point out that Hundley looks so lost and saddened in that avatar. Phillies team error plates a run for the Mets. I hope they win the wild card so that the Mets can play them in the NLCS.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 02:59 PM

Chavez with a 2 RBI double! Mets wake me up.

Nymr83 Aug 05 2006 02:59 PM

Chavez says: Xavier who?

metirish Aug 05 2006 03:00 PM

Mets take a 4 to 3 lead on a two run double by Chavez, this might be the first time I have seen a rally song work right away....good job Willets.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:00 PM

Yay! Must be a super-bright sun blessing its rays on Flushing today.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:00 PM

I think that photo was taken right after he was told about the trade for Piazza.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:01 PM

metirish wrote: this might be the first time I have seen a rally song work right away....good Willets. You know what this means, don't you? 55,000 fans dancing to "I Touch Myself" at Shea. The mere thought of it is awesinine!

metirish Aug 05 2006 03:05 PM

Burrell is a pretty bad outfielder, looked horrible twice in that inning.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 03:07 PM

I like baseball.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:08 PM

Nice 1-2-3 inning for Glavine! SC=0 Stretch 'em out.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:10 PM

Mets lead 4-3 igoing to the seventh inning stretch. Due up for the Mets: DeFelice Probable pinch hitter for Glavine Reyes Let's get some insurance runs.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:11 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: I think that photo was taken right after he was told about the trade for Piazza. lol. That was a good rally song WP. Thats all for Glavine. Marrero will PH.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:12 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 05 2006 03:12 PM

swing the freakin bat Marrero! Ks lookin :(

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:12 PM

Someone please remind me again why Marrero is on the 25 man roster.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:13 PM

Lieber matches Glavine in EZ 7th inning performance. Heilman coming in. Go Aaron!

TransMonk Aug 05 2006 03:13 PM

Even nicer 1-2-3 inning by Lieber. 5 pitches even with the K.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:14 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Someone please remind me again why Marrero is on the 25 man roster. ....cuz he can catch in a pinch? Cuz he didnt hit in a pinch.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 03:15 PM

Has Willie ever heard the word "overuse"? IIRC, he abused Bert last year.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 03:16 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Someone please remind me again why Marrero is on the 25 man roster. So weenie-whiny fans would forget about Kaz.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:17 PM

Elster88 wrote: Has Willie ever heard the word "overuse"? IIRC, he abused Bert last year. Abused him well though. With Heilman-not so much. Heilmans ball is showing major movement there on Victorino. Almost too much,lol.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:17 PM

One down as Victorino Ks.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:20 PM

Way to go Aaron!

metirish Aug 05 2006 03:20 PM

Heilman gets a 1-2-3 inning, nice.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:21 PM

Very nice inning by heilman. Dellucci almost got a hold a one, but he didnt.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:21 PM

Nice 1-2-3 inning for Heilman.

TransMonk Aug 05 2006 03:21 PM

Heilman up to the task. Very Duaner-esqe in the boxscore.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:22 PM

Now lets go get some more. Milledge,Beltraan, Delgado.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:24 PM

The Philadelphia outfield doesn't let that one drop.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:25 PM

Oh shiat! Burrell is up in the 9th. We need insurance runs boys!

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:26 PM

Or not. Pleeeeeeeeeeze Wagner Pleeeeeeeeeze!

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:26 PM

Beltraan JUST misses one- gets a lil under it. Lieber still in for the Phils and thats pretty amazing(to me). Im not even going to tempt fate with any Wagner graphics. Get it done Billy.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:27 PM

I love how Gamecast shows the ground out by Delgado as being to shallow rightfield. Damn shift.

metirish Aug 05 2006 03:28 PM

Howard gets a hit....Wagner

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:29 PM

Ugh. Howard with a lead off single. Well, rather let him have a single than go yard. Burrells up--hold yer breath.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:29 PM

Argh....

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:29 PM

Fangul!

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:30 PM

No need to swing the bat, Pat. Just keep looking.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:31 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: No need to swing the bat, Pat. Just keep looking. And he does--HUGE K by Wags

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:31 PM

Bitch-innnnn!

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:31 PM

That's what I'm talkin' about.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:33 PM

Another big strike out of Coste. One to go. Chase Utley pinch hits.

metirish Aug 05 2006 03:35 PM

Utley with a hit that sends Howard to 3rd.....this sucks.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:35 PM

Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:36 PM

Damn you Utley, why didn't you do that yesterday instead?

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:36 PM

Willets Point wrote: Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit!Shit! I concur--a dozen shits.

Iubitul Aug 05 2006 03:38 PM

YES!!!!!!!! I love that kid!!!!!!

metirish Aug 05 2006 03:38 PM

I love you David Wright....good diving play at 3rd.....

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:38 PM

WHAT A PLAY BY WRIGHT! A diving stab down the line and great throw to 1st ends it. Wipe the sweat from your brow andput it in the books.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 03:38 PM

Finally.....the Mets hang on to win.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:38 PM

FUCKIN' AY!!!!

metirish Aug 05 2006 03:39 PM

Glavine with career win 287....

Frayed Knot Aug 05 2006 03:40 PM

IIRC, that's the 2nd time Wright's glove has bailed Wagner's ass out after costing him one early in the season. Wright's glove is now ahead 2-1

Frayed Knot Aug 05 2006 03:41 PM

This just in: Ken Rosenthal is short. Film at 11

metirish Aug 05 2006 03:41 PM

I love how Delgado pumps his fist after the catch from Wright to end the game, 3 good plays in the field today for him.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:42 PM

metirish wrote: Glavine with career win 287.... Wow--watching that replay. What a great play--that ball was by him. He saves the save for Wagner. Saves the win for Glavine. That was HUGE.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:44 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: IIRC, that's the 2nd time Wright's glove has bailed Wagner's ass out after costing him one early in the season. Wright's glove is now ahead 2-1 ....and that other one turned into a double play. Factor that.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 05 2006 03:45 PM

="Zvon"]WHAT A PLAY BY WRIGHT! A diving stab down the line and great throw to 1st ends it. Wipe the sweat from your brow andput it in the books. I love that boy :) Thanks for the description and account of the play :)

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 03:52 PM

Lieberreally did pitch a great game.

Willets Point Aug 05 2006 03:53 PM

Elster88 wrote: Lieberreally did pitch a great game. Any relation to Liberace?

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:55 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote: I love that boy :) Thanks for the description and account of the play :) My pleasure. We miss your I LOVE WRIGHT thingy. Next time you go on vacation you should pack that.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 03:57 PM

Zvon wrote: We miss your I LOVE WRIGHT thingy. Speak for yourself.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:57 PM

Willets Point wrote: ="Elster88"]Lieberreally did pitch a great game. Any relation to Liberace? Lmao-- lotd. laugh of the day

Zvon Aug 05 2006 03:59 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="Zvon"]We miss your I LOVE WRIGHT thingy. Speak for yourself. K. All of us cept Elster miss your I LOVE WRIGHT thingy.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 04:00 PM

That's not speaking for yourself.

Elster88 Aug 05 2006 04:19 PM

Willie on the postgame: Cliff just cramped up a little bit and should be okay for tomorrow.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 04:39 PM

That's good news. I think Cliffie should start hitting balls in the stands more often so he can cut down on his running.

Zvon Aug 05 2006 05:22 PM

Elster88 wrote: Willie on the postgame: Cliff just cramped up a little bit and should be okay for tomorrow. Cramped up? He wasnt even running full steam- He was joggin over there. I thought he hurt his rib cage smackin the sidewall, but it looked like most of the impact went to his thigh, as he leaped a lil while hitting it. Well, as long as he's back for tomorrow......whatever.

metirish Aug 05 2006 05:28 PM

I really don't know what to think about Milledge.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 05:37 PM

ESPN reported that Cliff felt tightness in his left Achilles tendon. They stated it had bothered him on July 30th and caused him to be held out of that game.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 05:39 PM

metirish - "I really don't know what to think about Milledge. So far, my impression is that he's a talented head case.

sharpie Aug 05 2006 07:23 PM

Lenny and I went to the game today and broke each of our 7-game losing streaks stretching back to '04. Once a season we get great seats from mrs. sharpie's work and today was the day. Great game to be at.

Yancy Street Gang Aug 05 2006 08:21 PM

It's rare to see a complete game loss anymore, but Leiber had one today.

Rockin' Doc Aug 05 2006 10:02 PM

It's rare to see a complete game anymore. Tough loss for Lieber. He really pitched pretty well. He got himself in trouble when he threw the ball away on Beltran's check swing grounder. He had retired 17 straight Mets up to that point.

Edgy DC Aug 05 2006 11:21 PM

Mets getting no walks is nettlesome. Well, it would be nettlesome, but Graig Nettles had a lot of walks.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 05 2006 11:38 PM

We haven't a game since Monday where we haven't cried out for Duaner AND Xavier. It's as if their heads collided both diving for the same ball at the same time. Honestly, we look a lot less dangerous and it's almost palpable.

Edgy DC Aug 05 2006 11:54 PM

How do you see the bullpen shaking out right now? I guess Willy has Heilman and Hernandez at equal status, probably reasoning (to himself at least) that he'll need Heilman's best at the end fo the year and, considering the team's cushion he'd better be as restrained as possible to demote him and undercut his cahnfidence. But a few more self-destructive outings, and I'm strongly suspicious that it'll clearly be Hernandez in the eighth and Heilman in the seventh, and a few more after that and it'll be Hernandez in the eighth and Chadro Bradiciano in the seventh. And there's also a strong argument that Bell or Pelfrey should be given a chance to auditon as Hernandez's partner in setting up Wagner. There's probably a strong argument for Oliver. Heilman got the job done today.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 06 2006 12:14 AM

Yeah, I think you got the basic idea: Give the 8th innings to Heilman until the lead shrinks to single digits or he gets better, or he gets killed. Relief pitching is so enigmatic. It seems to me Duaner was this octopus with his arms gently supporting each of his fellow bullpenners: removing him upsets the whole balance of things. Oliver suddenly gets a leverage inning and surrenders a giant HR. Wagner looks like crap. Heilman looks like he knows he doesn't have anyone's faith. And no guarantee Sanchez will return to reclaim such a role, ever: It's all momentum, with talent, sure, and health. So I don't trust obvious bullpen fixes that come at the moment you need them, and I do think it'd be ballsy and interesting to see what Maine or Pelfrey could do if they're given a chance.

Yancy Street Gang Aug 06 2006 07:13 AM

Ring hasn't appeared yet. I'd like him to get some innings soon so that we can get an idea of how he'll fit into the equation.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2006 08:29 AM

Pedro Feliciano has shown some acceptably even splits Vs. lefties:.256 / .278 / .372 // .650 Vs. righties: .263 / .358 / .375 // .733 Maybe he gets a broader role and Ring becomes the LOOGy.

Elster88 Aug 06 2006 09:29 AM

[url=http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060805&content_id=1594305&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym]Link[/url] NEW YORK -- Even before the injury to setup man Duaner Sanchez forced Willie Randolph to redo the bullpen, the manager spoke of using Darren Oliver in late-game situations, mostly as a means of preparing him for postseason duty, but also with a sense of testing the veteran left-hander who has prospered in long relief this season. The plan backfired on Friday night, when Oliver entered the game in the seventh inning with the score tied at 3-3 and surrendered a home run to his first batter -- a left-handed batter -- David Dellucci. The Phillies scored in the ninth as well, when Ryan Howard, also a left-handed hitter, hit his 37th home run, against southpaw Pedro Feliciano. The assignment Friday marked the second time this season Oliver has been asked to pitch later than the sixth inning with the score tied or with a margin of one run either way. In each instance he allowed a run. A rundown of Oliver's seven "seventh or later" appearances follows: April 7: In the Mets' fourth game, Oliver makes his first appearance and starts the ninth with the Mets leading, 9-3, against the Marlins in Miami. Three up, three down. May 18: Oliver is summoned to start the eighth inning in St. Louis with the Mets trailing, 6-3. Three up, three down. June 3: With the Mets trailing the Giants, 5-4, at Shea, Oliver starts and completes the ninth and allows a run on a single by Barry Bonds. June 6: Oliver starts the eighth in Los Angeles vs. the Dodgers with the Mets trailing by three runs. He allows two hits and a walk but no runs and completes the inning. June 20: Oliver works the ninth against the Reds at Shea with the Mets leading, 9-2. He faces four batters, allowing a hit. June 21: With the Mets trailing the Reds by four at home, Oliver is assigned the seventh inning. Again, he faces four batters and allows one hit. Aug. 4: With the Mets and Phillies tied at 3, Oliver is given the seventh inning. His first batter, David Dellucci, a left-handed hitter, provides the decisive run in what becomes a 5-3 Phillies victory.