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Nady traded for Hernandez and Oliver Perez

SteveJRogers Jul 31 2006 01:21 PM

Just heard this on WFAN!

metirish Jul 31 2006 01:21 PM

WOW..another stunner....

SteveJRogers Jul 31 2006 01:21 PM

So who are we trading for a #3 starter cause its now Milledge time

Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 01:23 PM

Which makes our rightfielder... some combination of Endy Chavez, Lastings Milledge, and Victor Diaz, and our rotation about eight deep. What are we going to do with Perez?

HahnSolo Jul 31 2006 01:25 PM

Perez has been a mess this year, and he just gave up 8 earned runs in a third of an inning in AAA yesterday. But I don't mind taking a shot at a soon to be 25-y.o. lefty who has at least shown he can pitch at this level.

metirish Jul 31 2006 01:26 PM

Omar must be working on something, too many starters...

Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2006 01:27 PM

It's 3:27 p.m. now. Peterson can fix Perez by 3:37.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2006 01:27 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2006 01:28 PM

I suspect they consider Perez more of a future project than a right-now fix.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 01:28 PM

With a half hour to go, I think he's working on warehouseing Perez at AAA. It strikes me as something of a panic move, but, yeah, Perez might get his form back.

metirish Jul 31 2006 01:29 PM

Sucks to be Nady going from the top to the absolute pitts.

Rotblatt Jul 31 2006 01:29 PM

Given Sanchez going down, that's a pretty darn good deal. Perez has been godawful this year, but he's a 25-year old who throws in the mid-90's and has a nice slider. And he's a lefty. Meanwhile, Robo's a solid reliever, although his peripherals have been terrible this year (1.63 WHIP, 33-24 K-BB). I wonder if there's a minor leaguer involved we haven't heard about yet. If not, Littlefield just got pwned. Nady's a'ight and all, but it looks to me like his ceiling is capped at average.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2006 01:33 PM

I dunno, look at this from Pittsburgh's pov: - they dealt a 41 y/o reliever w/little future for them plus a hopeful maybe for a starting OFer they can control for 4 years.

Gwreck Jul 31 2006 01:35 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Which makes our rightfielder... some combination of Endy Chavez, Lastings Milledge, and Victor Diaz, and our rotation about eight deep. What are we going to do with Perez? I wonder if a platoon with Endy/Diaz is in order, and hold off on the Milledge promotion until September.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2006 01:36 PM

Not the way Diaz is going this year. It's Lastings time unless...

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2006 01:36 PM

Nady is a heckuva lot to give up for Hernandez, but at least they have some outfield depth. (Note to Schaefer voters: He's RHernandez!)

Rotblatt Jul 31 2006 01:38 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: I dunno, look at this from Pittsburgh's pov: - they dealt a 41 y/o reliever w/little future for them plus a hopeful maybe for a starting OFer they can control for 4 years. That's a fair point. It all hinges on how valuable you think Perez is. Personally, I think he's pretty darn valuable, but I'm easily impressed by "upside."

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2006 01:39 PM

This may also open the door for a Cliff Floyd return in 2007.

Gwreck Jul 31 2006 01:39 PM

I think this also increases the chances of Mr. Floyd being back next year.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2006 01:40 PM

Similar Pitchers through Age 23 Compare Stats Sandy Koufax (976) * I'd have guessed he'd be in-line for a Cy Young Award by now.

Rotblatt Jul 31 2006 01:42 PM

Mets to [url=http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9579839]flip[/url] Perez for Linebrink?

Gwreck Jul 31 2006 01:44 PM

Beat me by a second, Yancy. Either that or "great minds..." :)

ScarletKnight41 Jul 31 2006 01:44 PM

I take a nap and all hell breaks lose! It's good to have Bert back, now that Duaner Sanchez is gone for the season. But I'll miss X-Man - he had been a pleasant surprise this season.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2006 01:45 PM

]Personally, I think he's pretty darn valuable, but I'm easily impressed by "upside". Precisely, he's pretty darn **POTENTIALLY** valuable - and the Pyroots opted for the "sureness" of X. And I'm not saying I hate the move, only that each side had it's reasons for doing it. Question of the day: Was this move prompted solely by the Duaner crack-up or was something along these lines going to happen anyway? Omar had made no secret about upgrading the pen and Robo had been part of those rumors.

Gwreck Jul 31 2006 01:45 PM

Rotblatt wrote: Mets to [url=http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9579839]flip[/url] Perez for Linebrink? The rumor is, specifically: Perez and Heath Bell for Linebrink.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 01:47 PM

]If not, Littlefield just got pwned. I've never quite known what that word means, but I think he dealt wisely. As of now, Cameron = Hernandez + Perez + Whatever Nady Has Given Us Thus Far. Victor Diaz has slugged .350 for the Tides this year. It looks like a Milledge return, but other possible callups are Michael Tucker, and... Edgardo Alfonzo.

seawolf17 Jul 31 2006 01:48 PM

Two words: Pat Burrell. In related news: ]Clippers clobber Perez, Indians July 29, 2006 Wil Nieves hit a two-run double and scored in a nine-run first inning that carried visiting Columbus past Indianapolis, 10-6, on Saturday. The 28-year-old catcher delivered a one-out double to center field, then scored with Terrence Long on errors by center fielder Chris Duffy and shortstop J.J. Furmaniak. Nieves hammered a solo homer in the second for Columbus (47-59). Long's RBI single sparked the scoring as the Clippers used seven consecutive hits to build a 9-0 lead. Danny Garcia and Kevin Thompson sandwiched RBI doubles around J.T. Stotts' run-scoring single. Andy Cannizaro's RBI single capped the inning, during which Columbus sent 13 men to the plate. Every member of the Clippers lineup collected at least one hit in the opener of a two-game set. Colter Bean (7-2) allowed a hit and a walk while registering a strikeout in 1 2/3 innings for the win. Jose Veras got the last two outs to notch his 16th save. Yurendell de Caster went 3-for-5 with a three-run homer, falling a double shy of the cycle for Indianapolis. Rajai Davis also was 3-for-5 with an RBI to extend his hitting streak to 11 games. Chris Richard and Adam Boeve picked up an RBI apiece for the Indians (58-47). Major League veteran Oliver Perez (1-3) recorded just one out and was torched for eight runs on five hits. He walked three of the game's first four batters. ]Columbus Top 1st Kevin Thompson walks. With Andy Cannizaro batting, wild pitch by Oliver Perez, Kevin Thompson to 2nd. Andy Cannizaro walks. Coaching visit to mound. Carlos Pena pops out to shortstop J. Furmaniak. Mitch Jones walks. Kevin Thompson to 3rd. Andy Cannizaro to 2nd. Terrence Long singles on a soft fly ball to right fielder Adam Boeve. Kevin Thompson scores. Andy Cannizaro to 3rd. Mitch Jones to 2nd. Wil Nieves doubles (10) on a fly ball to center fielder Chris Duffy. Andy Cannizaro scores. Mitch Jones scores. Terrence Long scores. Wil Nieves scores. Missed catch error by center fielder Chris Duffy. Throwing error by shortstop J. Furmaniak. Bronson Sardinha singles on a line drive to left fielder Rajai Davis. Danny Garcia doubles (19) on a fly ball to left fielder Rajai Davis. Bronson Sardinha scores. JT Stotts singles on a ground ball to center fielder Chris Duffy. Danny Garcia scores. Pitcher Change: Josh Sharpless replaces Oliver Perez. YIKES.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2006 01:48 PM

I'm thinking Milledge. How does Fonzie replace Nady? Are you' thinking that with Chavez and Woodward on the bench, the Mets have enough outfield depth that they can call up an extra infielder?

Gwreck Jul 31 2006 01:49 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Victor Diaz has slugged .350 for the Tides this year. It looks like a Milledge return, but other possible callups are Michael Tucker, and... Edgardo Alfonzo. If Victor's .350 isn't useful enough, I can't see what Edgardo's 8-for-41 (only 1 extra base hit) is going to do for us.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 01:54 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2006 02:29 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I'm thinking Milledge. How does Fonzie replace Nady? Are you' thinking that with Chavez and Woodward on the bench, the Mets have enough outfield depth that they can call up an extra infielder? No, I don't think it works, I just think it might happen somehow when the roster settles. On Linebrink: there are so many burly righthanded relivers with brown goatees floating around around now, there ougut to be some sort of BRHRwBG administration office in Washington. Hear Scott sing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009INJ24/103-5436334-2305422?v=glance&n=5174

Elster88 Jul 31 2006 02:19 PM

Geez, you leave the office for an hour and look what happens. Couldn't we have gotten Bert for something less than Nady? I think Milledge has potential, but his OPS is slightly below .700 as a major leaguer. And Floyd gets hurt every day.

Elster88 Jul 31 2006 02:21 PM

Rotblatt wrote: Given Sanchez going down, that's a pretty darn good deal. Perez has been godawful this year, but he's a 25-year old who throws in the mid-90's and has a nice slider. And he's a lefty. Meanwhile, Robo's a solid reliever, although his peripherals have been terrible this year (1.63 WHIP, 33-24 K-BB). I wonder if there's a minor leaguer involved we haven't heard about yet. If not, Littlefield just got pwned. Nady's a'ight and all, but it looks to me like his ceiling is capped at average. Nady still has yet to play a complete season. I'd have liked to see what he could do. Poor bastid. Pittsburgh sucks.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2006 02:21 PM

fix that link, Cowboy. Linebrink HAS to be country with that getup.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2006 02:23 PM

Newsday: ]Mets trade Nady for Perez, Hernandez BY DAVID LENNON Newsday Staff Writer July 31, 2006, 3:30 PM EDT Stunned by the season-ending injury to Duaner Sanchez only hours earlier, the Mets moved quickly today to bolster their pitching staff by trading Xavier Nady to the Pirates for Roberto Hernandez and Oliver Perez, a baseball official confirmed this afternoon. General manager Omar Minaya needed to find a replacement for Sanchez, who underwent surgery today in New York to repair a separated shoulder, and Hernandez apparently was the best replacement he could find. Hernandez, 41, has a 2.93 ERA with 33 strikeouts in 43 innings for the Pirates, but he's definitely a notch below the Mets' injured reliever. Sanchez, 26, was 5-1 with a 2.60 ERA and had a team-high 49 appearances. The Mets also received lefthanded starter Oliver Perez in the deal first reported by SI.com, but it's unclear how much he will help the rotation if he remains with the team. The Pirates demoted Perez after he lost 10 of his first 12 decisions this season with a 6.63 ERA, and he was 1-3 with a 5.63 ERA for Triple-A Indianapolis. Nady was having a breakout year after the offseason trade that brought him to the Mets for Mike Cameron. Nady is batting .264 with a career high 14 home runs and 40 RBI in 75 games. The Mets will likely call-up Lastings Milledge to replace him in rightfield, but Endy Chavez – a favorite of manager Willie Randolph – is certain to get his share of starts there as well.

Elster88 Jul 31 2006 02:29 PM

I dunno about this crap. Our bullpen is solid without Sanchez. I just don't like this trade right now. Let's put something in the prediction archives.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 02:30 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: fix that link, Cowboy. Linebrink HAS to be country with that getup. Fix't, partner.

Rockin' Doc Jul 31 2006 04:10 PM

Nady was a pleasant surpise this season. He seems to be a high price to pay (especially considering his contract) to get Roberto Hernandez back for the remainder of this season. I feel bad for Nady, but that's the nature of the business. I would feel more secure in the post season this fall with Nady as a regular than I think I will with Milledge. Milledge should have a bright future, but I think he still needs some more time in Norfolk.

metirish Jul 31 2006 04:18 PM

Omar on the Fan says Milledge will get called up.

MFS62 Jul 31 2006 04:27 PM

That will make 26 on the major league roster. Who will go? It has to be a pitcher (they now have 13). Maybe Pelfrey for more seasoning? Predictions? Later

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2006 04:57 PM

I'm assuming it's; - lose Sanchez & Nady - Gain Milledge & Robo I figure Perez for the minors for now. Pelfrey's starting Tuesday - he might be demoted after that, possibly in favor of a reliever, probably Bell.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2006 07:16 PM

That's a pretty safe assumption. Meanwhile, Marty Noble writes: "Milledge's immediate availability to the Mets may be an issue because was ejected from Norfolk's game Sunday night and may face discipline. The International League is investigating the incident in which the 21-year-old outfielder was ejected in the first inning by home plate umpire Mike Estabrook. Milledge had taken exception to a called third strike. He argued with the umpire, threw down his bat and approached Estabrook. One report said Milledge bumped the umpire and that Estabrook backtracked to regain his balance as Norfolk manager Ken Oberkfell ran to intercede. The Mets' Minor League department at Shea Stadium said it was unaware of a bumping incident, but the International League office is reviewing the situation and awaiting delivery of a videotape of it. The Mets wouldn't be obligated to recognize any discipline imposed by the International League."

metirish Jul 31 2006 07:18 PM

] The Mets wouldn't be obligated to recognize any discipline imposed by the International League." That bit is interesting, would it be seen as bad form to not recognize any ban?