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Elster88 Aug 11 2006 09:37 AM |
What is a shunt?
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TransMonk Aug 11 2006 09:41 AM |
Basically a surgically created bypass to divert or allow bloodflow.
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cooby Aug 11 2006 09:42 AM |
I think the coach is right. The little tyke's already working on his hitting; so he's gained from it.
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Elster88 Aug 11 2006 09:45 AM |
The question is, at what age is it okay to treat it like a real game, and at what age is it still about everyone getting a chance to play and everyone being treated equally?
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seawolf17 Aug 11 2006 09:47 AM |
That sucks. That coach sucks. What a dick. I hope cancer karma kicks him square in the nuts.
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Edgy DC Aug 11 2006 09:57 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2006 10:33 AM |
The kid's heart broke, he made an adjustment, and what didn't kill him made him stronger. That's great. But it could have easily gone the other way, and been a disastrous moment. Amateurs with a mixed agenda are placed in the middle of a crisis of child development
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ScarletKnight41 Aug 11 2006 09:59 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2006 10:02 AM |
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We've played our share of Little League games these last few years. My husband has managed MK's teams, and he's great with the kids. His ego is not dependent on the kids' W-L record, he takes pains to make sure that the kids got as close to equal playing time as mathematically possible, and he always made the kids feel good about their efforts even after losses.
I think it's great that the child has the opportunity to participate in organized baseball, but that doesn't mean that his participation should turn this into a noncompetitive league. Every member of the team should do his best to be the best player possible - that's the whole point of playing competitive ball.
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cooby Aug 11 2006 10:00 AM |
Amen, sister
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TransMonk Aug 11 2006 10:00 AM |
Why did the coach of the losing team have the cancer survivor hitting in the lineup right after the teams best hitter?
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Edgy DC Aug 11 2006 10:03 AM |
There's that. I thought of htat.
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Diamond Dad Aug 11 2006 10:30 AM strategy |
Context dictates actions. Last year, I had a kid on my son's team who was physically disabled -- lack of muscle development in his legs made it very hard for him to move quickly or run. took him 30 seconds to run from home to first. His parents had a great attitude about him playing baseball just for the fun of it, and he had a great attitude also. The rest of the kids cheered for him and helped him out. It was a great experience for everyone. That was a league of 8 year olds where we didn't keep score, there were no "wins" or "losses" and there was no champion. It was strictly for fun and development. No question that you pitch to everyone.
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Edgy DC Aug 11 2006 10:40 AM |
There's nothing automatic about getting to win when you pitch to the better hitter.
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ScarletKnight41 Aug 11 2006 10:44 AM |
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If you want to start a league and make that the rule, I'm down with that. But in a league where intentional walks are permitted, you can't decide that you can intentionally walk some kids and not others.
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HahnSolo Aug 11 2006 10:47 AM |
The only thing I can say on behalf of the Yanks coach is that parents can be hell. Mr and Mrs Yank want little Jeffy Yank to win a championship, so they'll give their coach grief if they lose because the coach pitched to the opposition's best player. And you know what, his kids wanted to win too.
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Edgy DC Aug 11 2006 10:49 AM |
Well, I would (and did) self-apply the rule. (That age-level also.) And no pitcher I chatted on the mound with ever asked me if he shouldn't be walking a guy instead of pitching to him, nor did I catch any of them doing it on their own.
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sharpie Aug 11 2006 11:19 AM |
I've coached for 5 years and in that time I've called an intentional walk only once. It was a game we were getting blown out in and the next hitter was no cancer survivor. Hard to legislate the "no intentional walk" rule. "Don't give him anything to hit"means the same thing to a kid pitcher.
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Diamond Dad Aug 11 2006 11:21 AM 9 year olds |
I managed MK's all-star team this summer (9-year-olds). In one game, the other team had a huge kid -- had to be 5'6" and weighed 150. First time up, he hit a shot over the center fielder's head and one-hop off the fence. Next time up, we were ahead 1 run and there was a runner at third base with two outs. My pitcher walked the kid on 4 pitches. I didn't tell him anything -- on his own he was very, very careful not to give the big kid anything good to hit. We went on to win the game, which was our team's only win in the tournament. My kids were very, very happy to get that win. They would have felt terrible if they had gone winless.
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Centerfield Aug 11 2006 11:21 AM |
I've gone over this a few times, and I think there is no one "right" answer. Like Diamond Dad says, it depends on the context. None of us have any idea how competitive that Pony League is...though, because it is for 9-10 year olds, and has a 4 run per inning max, it sounds like it's more of a "for fun" league than a competitive one. And if that is the case, that coach's move seems pretty bush league.
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Centerfield Aug 11 2006 11:30 AM |
By the way, the article doesn't make mention of it, but the real bush league move was when the Yanks signed all the best players from the other Pony League teams by paying them more money.
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Centerfield Aug 11 2006 11:34 AM Re: 9 year olds |
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By the way, this part amazes me, and it shows how much the game has changed:
When I was nine years old, any pitcher trying to "pitch carefully" would have immediately thrown it to the backstop. Our pitchers had one strategy: "Throw it over the plate as often as you can."
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Edgy DC Aug 11 2006 11:38 AM |
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He was autistic. He was a high school senior, and the team manager thrown in for the last two or three minutes of a blowout, and not debiliatated by a painful life-threatening ailment, so he was far less vulnerable.
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Mr. Zero Aug 11 2006 12:02 PM |
I happen to live in a fairly politically correct neck of the woods and there is generally a laid back approach to baseball in the local Cal Ripken League. 7-8 year olds play games where coaches pitch, no scores are kept, though the kids always seem to know who won.
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Elster88 Aug 11 2006 12:04 PM |
HAIL
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Edgy DC Aug 11 2006 12:25 PM |
averting eyes
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ScarletKnight41 Aug 11 2006 01:42 PM |
Hail
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Gwreck Aug 11 2006 08:14 PM |
The answer to that dilemma is to not play championship games in that sort of league. Keeping score in an individual game might be OK but there's no sense having a postseason.
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Willets Point Aug 12 2006 09:48 PM |
For some reason I thought the kicker of this story was that the kid grew up to be governor of Massachusetts and is now planning a run for President.
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Edgy DC Aug 24 2006 04:37 PM |
Mr. Zero has been sitting at Seaver for two weeks.
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Yancy Street Gang Aug 24 2006 04:41 PM |
He probably didn't want to lose his giant avatar and created a new user ID.
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Mr. Zero Sep 08 2006 10:49 AM |
Sorry dudes, I've been away, luxuriating in my Seaverness.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 08 2006 10:57 AM |
Don't expect hail for Ron Hodges.
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Willets Point Sep 08 2006 11:00 AM |
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There's just no love for geeky English accounting professors.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 08 2006 11:12 AM |
Geeky? That guy would reach down your throat, pull your heart out, and show it to you before you die.
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seawolf17 Sep 08 2006 11:14 AM |
Hey, Ron! Long time no see.
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Willets Point Sep 08 2006 11:16 AM |
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I'm sure he appreciates your recognition of his special powers. Now hail him damnit!
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Mr. Zero Sep 15 2006 09:48 AM |
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another Coach of the Year candidate:
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