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Shawn Green?

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2006 01:28 PM

[url=http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spmnotes124849335aug12,0,6483608.story?coll=ny-sports-print]Newsday reports[/url] that with Floyd out, the Mets are asking about Green. He's apparently cleared waivers and so can be traded at any time. He does hold a no-trade clause which prevents him from being dealt to anywhere except the So-Cal teams - but those can often be negotiated. He's owed $9.5mil for next year plus a $2mil buyout in lieu of whatever his '08 contract calls for. Mets supposedly want the Snakes to pick up at least half of the '07 money plus the buyout for '08. No word on what the D'Backs would want in return.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2006 02:13 PM

It would be nice to not have to be as dependent as I feel on Milledge finding himself. But the bounty may be painful.

TransMonk Aug 12 2006 02:17 PM

I've always liked Green...even after his decline. Much better option than Millegde in my opinion. Supposedly good friends with Delgado...and I would imagine LoDuca can vouch for him, so the move probably wouldn't disrupt the clubhouse.

MFS62 Aug 12 2006 03:50 PM

I'm concerned that would make the team too lefty-heavy going forward. Its an ok move for this year, since we have no idea how much Cliff will be able to contribute. But Green's game has declined recently, and I would prefer getting a righty hitter for next year. Later

Edgy DC Aug 12 2006 03:58 PM

Maybe we can get Xavier Nady back.

metirish Aug 12 2006 04:31 PM

With Arizona only 1.5 games out in the West would they really want to move Green?

MFS62 Aug 12 2006 04:37 PM

The supposedly have a lot of prospects ready for the majors, and may be wishing to open up a spot for one of them. Green isn't exactly burnin' it up. And the fact that thyy're still in the race makes me think they wouldn't want prospects back - maybe an experienced starter like Traschell? Later

Edgy DC Aug 12 2006 05:03 PM

Maybe they want Hernandez back.

metirish Aug 12 2006 05:23 PM

62 they may have prospects ready for the majors but if you were the GM wouldn't you stick with a proven vet rather than throw a young prospect in a pennent race or a WC race?

Yancy Street Gang Aug 12 2006 05:26 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Maybe we can get Xavier Nady back. I still don't see that there was a need for dealing Nady. They closed one hole and opened up a larger one.

OlerudOwned Aug 12 2006 09:47 PM

metirish wrote: With Arizona only 1.5 games out in the West would they really want to move Green? [url=http://diamondbacks.scout.com/2/552068.html]Carlos Quentin[/url]

Elster88 Aug 13 2006 02:27 AM

Geoff Jenkins?

Frayed Knot Aug 13 2006 12:14 PM

Jenkins, like Green, has a contract for next year, meaning you'd want the other club to get a bit creative before you'd even consider that one. He's apparently been benched in Milwaukee leading to the speculation that he'd be available. Preston Wilson is another new consideration. He's on only a 1-year contract and has been DFA'd by the Astros. He'll almost surely be traded somewhere in the next 10 days.

Edgy DC Aug 13 2006 04:00 PM

MFS62 wrote: The supposedly have a lot of prospects ready for the majors, and may be wishing to open up a spot for one of them. Green isn't exactly burnin' it up. And the fact that thyy're still in the race makes me think they wouldn't want prospects back - maybe an experienced starter like Traschell? Trax is a five-and-dime man.

metirish Aug 14 2006 12:18 PM

] D-Backs' Green Snakes into discussion WASHINGTON - The Mets have spent plenty of green putting this year's NL-East leading team together. It's possible they could add a little more green to the roster. The East Valley (Ariz.) Tribune reported that the Diamondbacks planned to approach outfielder Shawn Green to waive his no-trade clause to be dealt to the Mets. A Met insider suggested that while the deal is "out there," it is not close to happening. Green, who will make $9.5 million next year and has a mutual option of $10 million for 2008, told the paper that he would seriously weigh the move if and when it happens. "I'd have to consider it, if it is something that comes to fruition," said Green, who played with Carlos Delgado in Toronto, and, according the paper, had Delgado in his wedding party. "There has been speculation all season. I don't pay attention to it." If the deal did happen, Green, who has 10 home runs, 49 RBI and is hitting .281 this season, would be an upgrade in right, as rookie Lastings Milledge has struggled since he was recalled after Xavier Nady was shipped to Pittsburgh http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/443332p-373386c.html

seawolf17 Aug 14 2006 01:03 PM

You know, it's just Omar pandering to the ethnic base in New York City again. First the Latinos, now the Jewish population. SC=100

MFS62 Aug 14 2006 01:16 PM

seawolf17 wrote: You know, it's just Omar pandering to the ethnic base in New York City again. First the Latinos, now the Jewish population. SC=100 Holy Art Shamsky, Batman! Later

ScarletKnight41 Aug 14 2006 01:41 PM

I've always had a soft spot for Shawn Green - I wouldn't be unhappy if he were to join the Mets (so long as we didn't have to give up anything major for him).

Johnny Dickshot Aug 14 2006 01:50 PM

Preston Wilson is being cut loose by Houston. There's no forward commitment other than a team option following this year.

MFS62 Aug 14 2006 01:53 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 14 2006 01:54 PM

IIRC Wilson has always hit well at Shea, and the Mets could use an experienced righty hitting outfielder. I don't know how he'd feel coming here now that Mookie isn't in the organization any more. But he's certainly worth a shot. Later

Willets Point Aug 14 2006 01:53 PM

I like the karmic possibilities of having a Wilson playing on a post-season Mets squad. Does Bob Stanley have a son pitching on any of the AL contenders?

Elster88 Aug 18 2006 03:50 PM

When's the waiver-trade deadline?

Frayed Knot Aug 18 2006 03:53 PM

You can make trades up til the final day of the season (Bosox & Mike Stanton last year) but a player who's not on the roster by Aug 31 is not eligible for post-season play.

OlerudOwned Aug 19 2006 03:26 PM

[url=http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/baseball/mlb/kansas_city_royals/15310622.htm]Reggie Sanders: Plan B?[/url] ]The word around baseball is that outfielder Reggie Sanders cleared waivers earlier this month but pitcher Mark Redman did not. Teams are prohibited from openly discussing the matter. If true, it means the Royals can trade Sanders, 38, to any team over the season’s remaining weeks. The Mets are believed to have some interest if they fail to pry Shawn Green from Arizona. I'd rather not. There is nothing Sanders can offer the Mets that Preston Wilson couldn't, and Wilson would have come cheaper in both the wallet and farm system. I'd like for them to replace Ledee or Tucker with a more capable hitter, but Reggie seems to have lost his power while posting a K/BB ratio similar to Milledge's, plus he'd be under contract for $5 million next year. Pass.

Edgy DC Aug 19 2006 04:08 PM

I don't disagree, but we can't be comparing him to Wilson. That ship has sailed. Only relevant ships now are the ones still at the dock.

OlerudOwned Aug 19 2006 04:12 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I don't disagree, but we can't be comparing him to Wilson. That ship has sailed. Only relevant ships now are the ones still at the dock. Good point. I referenced Wilson more to make a point that it would be seem unlikely for the Mets to go after Sanders, but my context was all screwy.

OlerudOwned Aug 21 2006 07:58 PM

[url=http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/omar_gets_mota__green_ay_be_next_mets_andrew_marchand.htm]Progress[/url] made in Green discussions, as Green agrees to waive his No Trade clause.

Vic Sage Aug 22 2006 02:38 PM

$8-$9M/yr for a .280 / 20hr / 80rbi /.825 OPS RFer is pretty steep. Still, i'd rather have him than Ricky Ledee, and if he doesn't cost us much in actual prospects, its okay with me.

metirish Sep 21 2006 10:39 AM

Green hasn't done much since coming to the Mets,Gary wondered last night if Green has to show Willie something down the stretch to be the starting right fielder in the playoffs.

Yancy Street Gang Sep 21 2006 10:46 AM

I'd start Endy over Green.

metirish Sep 21 2006 10:49 AM

Yeah so would I,Ron thinks Green will start game one but after that anything can happen.

Vic Sage Sep 21 2006 10:56 AM

Green hasn't done anything since coming here to earn the game 1 start in RF. Chavez has been consistently good all year. Even when he's not hitting, his fielding and running are far superior to Green's. In a best-of-3 series, we don't have time to wait to "see what happens" after game 1. Unless Green's bat comes around over the next 2 weeks, Chavez should start in RF. Unless Floyd is too hurt to play, in which case Chavez should start in LF.

metirish Sep 21 2006 10:58 AM

One of the things I like about Willie is that reputation or a players salary seem not to matter to him,I trust that Willie would have no hesitation sitting Green and starting Chavez.

Yancy Street Gang Sep 21 2006 10:59 AM

I agree. Willie has hinted that he'll be ruthless in picking who plays and who sits. Hopefully he'll make the right choice.

TransMonk Sep 21 2006 11:54 AM

In my mind, all along Green was insurance policy for Floyd and a serviceable outfielder should we need to play under AL rules and Floyd needs to DH. I think he fits both of those roles nicely.

Rotblatt Sep 21 2006 12:04 PM

Without looking, Endy all the way. Green's been terrible for us. With looking . . . Green in September: 48 AB / .271 AVG / .364 OBP / .500 SLG / .864 OPS Who knew? It's his best month so far since May (.983 OPS). I'm pretty sure that's coming mostly from those two days early on in the month (double header v. Atlanta and the next game), but those aren't bad numbers. Chavez in September: 36 AB / .278 AVG / .350 OBP / .361 SLG / .711 OPS Milledge is at .684 OPS in September, but he's also 6 for his last 15 with 2 walks and only 1 strikeout. Endy's also been pretty hot lately. Ah, hell, I don't know. One of more of them is going to have to step it up over the next few weeks. And to make matters worse, Floyd's at .620 OPS for September, although since Willie's Challenge, he's at .813 in his last 22 PAs. Willie's got some tough choices to make.