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Frayed Knot Aug 16 2006 11:33 AM

There were a slew of Met-fan radio callers who were prematurely going overboard in their comparisons between the NY short-stops early in the season. But, at this point, it's not so crazy anymore - even as Jeter is putting up his best season since maybe '99. ABs H 2Bs 3Bs HRs RBI RS SB/CS (%) BB K BA OBA SLG IsoP OPS Jeter 446 153 27 3 10 71 81 26 / 3 (90%) 53 71 .343 .419 .484 .141 .903 Reyes 482 144 23 15 14 59 98 49 / 12 (80%) 40 61 .299 .354 .496 .197 .850

MFS62 Aug 16 2006 11:40 AM

Pee Wee Reese both made the Hall of Fame, and there were constant arguements among fans in in New York over who was better. But (without looking at records) I don't think that either of them ever put up numbers like that. Later

Johnny Dickshot Aug 16 2006 11:44 AM

As much as it kills me to say this, Jeter really is an excellent player and difficult not to think of him as a DiMaggio of his time (obviously the numbers aren’t comparable, but more in a brand positioning/mindset frame). He’s a Hall of Famer already. But damned if Reyes isn’t nearly as good right now, better than DJ was at similar ages, and is a superior fielder, baserunner, better power hitter and more exciting player already. If you could choose one to build a team around, knowing only what we did through last night, you’d almost have to pick Reyes. Funny really that Jeets even for his greatness might be the 3rd best SS in NY!

MFS62 Aug 16 2006 12:27 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Funny really that Jeets even for his greatness might be the 3rd best SS in NY! Very true. He is the Alvin Dark (the third NY shortstop in the discussions I mentioned) of his generation. :) Later

cleonjones11 Aug 16 2006 07:44 PM

Thanks for the great comparison.. I think Jeter has true class. They were in Detroit 2 years ago and Jeter stood at homeplate with the Mayor of Detroit when one of the Mayors aides literally stuck a pen and a baseball in Jeters face. Derek had that split second WTF look, signed the ball shook the mayors hand and smiled.. Better than how I would react..I'd probably say do you need 200 bucks that bad?

Frayed Knot Aug 17 2006 04:10 PM

Class ain't got nuttin' to do wit' dis Back to topic (sort of): A quick check of [u:784d9832e4]Runs Created[/u:784d9832e4] (a mathematical approximation aimed at showing how many runs said player's offensive input produced) shows: Jeter = 92; Reyes = 91, to this point in the season. Or, [u:784d9832e4]Jeter = 7.74 RC/per 27 outs[/u:784d9832e4] (an approx # of runs an "all-Jeter" lineup would score per game) Reyes = 6.79 RC/27 The difference is due to Reyes making more outs on the season (lower OBA) Last season Reyes = 4.26 RC/per 27