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MFS62 Aug 17 2006 09:06 AM

and all this time I thought Roger Clemens did it. But I'm glad they caught the sick fucker and I hope he burns, even though he's only admitting to non-premeditated (second degree) murder. Does anyone know if his confession in a foreign country (apparently without counsel) will be admissible in US courts? And if it stands up and he pleads guilty, does there still have to be a trial? Later

cooby Aug 17 2006 11:13 AM

This is such a sad case I don't even know how to comment on it. I hope this poor little girl who didn't get a chance to be a child can have some rest now.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 17 2006 11:26 AM

Sounds fishy to me. Isn't it possible that a guy rotting in a Thai prison might prefer the relative excitement and comfort of a good old U.S. of Archie prison sentence? His wife has already alibi'ed him out of the area on the date of the kill, and there's still the suspicious matters of the ransom note in the same amount of John Ramsey's bonus check; duct tape with fibers from Patsy's clothing; no sign of forced entry, etc etc etc. Why would a guy travel all the way to Denver to kill a kid?

metirish Aug 17 2006 11:27 AM

Good point Dickshot,after reading about this guy I was feeling the same thing,it's bizzare.

HahnSolo Aug 17 2006 11:30 AM

I always thought the Ramseys handled themselves poorly, whether they were involved or not, by immediately putting a wall between themselves and investigators. Now, we can debate all we want about the level of incompetence of the police and DA of Boulder, but the Ramseys drew suspicions upon themselves by their actions. And, though I had not thought of this case in a long time, I believed one of the parents probably did it. I would be willing to admit I'm wrong, but there seems to be something fishy about this guy and his confession. Not the least of which is that his then-wife is telling the media that they were together in Alabama the day JonBenet was killed. edit: I see Johnny and Irish beat me to my point.

MFS62 Aug 17 2006 11:39 AM

Some additional points: The reports I heard mentioned that he knew some facts about the crime scene that had not been revealed. There was unidentified DNA under JonBenet's fingernails. At the time of the crime, it seemed the local Police only tried to match it to DNA of members of the family and close associates. Since he has confessed, they should be able to get a sample of his DNA and quickly prove/disprove his guilt. Cooby, I agree with you. Later

Nymr83 Aug 17 2006 02:04 PM

i guess we'll see what happens, if i were sitting in a Thai prison I'd probably pick and confess to any unsolved american crime i could find. i hope it turns out he did do it, as somehow it "nicer" to know that it wasn't the kid's own parents.

metirish Aug 17 2006 02:35 PM

The Times article I read today makes this guy seem very fishy,he did serious research on the case for years and other child killings aswell. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/17/world/18ramsey.ready.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5094&en=f7518a0c2e074e85&hp&ex=1155873600&partner=homepage

Willets Point Aug 17 2006 04:11 PM

Sorry to be pissy gadfly about this, but this just plain isn't news.

Nymr83 Aug 17 2006 04:13 PM

its not news that someone was arrested in a famous unsolved murder? i'd sure like to hear your definition of news.

Willets Point Aug 17 2006 04:17 PM

The whole ten year tabloid saga isn't news. Kids die every day, just happens that this one was tarted up as a sex object by her wacko parents thus making good copy for prurient explotation.

cooby Aug 17 2006 04:31 PM

Nymr83 wrote: its not news that someone was arrested in a famous unsolved murder? i'd sure like to hear your definition of news. Nymr83, you are right as far your statement goes, but Willets is right also inasmuch as these parents dressed up their own daughter as a grown up prostitute and then have the gall to be surprised when some wack job fell for her. "I love her" -- oh my god.

Edgy DC Aug 18 2006 06:56 PM

Bill James wrote: I think what maybe drives my interest in the case is the specter of these utterly innocent people, the Ramsey parents, being tortured by the nation's press because the police are, in essence, teling the press that the parents committed the crime. It's a terrible terrible injustice --- in the wake of a horrific crime --- and you absolutely can't get people to respond to it on a serious level, because there are a series of things people say to prevent them from actually having to think about what the press and police are doing to thse people, in full view of the public. These are: "It's just a tabloid story." "I think the parents probably did it anyway." "There are 20,000 murders in this country every year, why focus on this one." "Crimes worse than this happen every day to poor people, but you never hear about it." Well, there are many other terrible crimes, and I don't mean to diminish the significance of those, either --- but there are no crimes worse than this one, and there are no crimes in which much of the American public is complicit in compounding the evil consequences.

Edgy DC Aug 28 2006 04:38 PM

Looks like no charges will be filed. 'Mazin'.

ScarletKnight41 Aug 28 2006 04:57 PM

In that case, can we ship the guy back to that Thai prison?

Yancy Street Gang Aug 28 2006 05:01 PM

The lengths people will go to to get their 15 minutes of fame.

Centerfield Aug 28 2006 06:17 PM

As Scarlet alludes to, it probably had more to do with getting out of that Thai prison. I'm with her. Let's send him back. And instead of first class, I say we send him by FedEx.

metirish Aug 28 2006 06:26 PM

Can we send the prosecutors back with him?

Yancy Street Gang Aug 28 2006 07:10 PM

No, they're going to be busy for the next ten years looking for their next suspect.

metirish Aug 28 2006 07:13 PM

Where was Richard Jewel that day?

Willets Point Aug 28 2006 08:20 PM

Ah, good, now the news media can breathe a sigh of relief that they won't actually have to cover anything that's - you know - meaningful and important.

metirish Aug 28 2006 08:22 PM

There goes Geraldo Rivera's TV special.