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IGT 08/28/2006 Phillies at Mets: Gay Dame Makeup

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 28 2006 11:55 AM

 Philadelphia

J. Rollins ss
S. Victorino cf
C. Utley 2b
R. Howard 1b
P. Burrell lf
D. Dellucci rf
C. Coste c
A. Nunez 3b
J. Moyer p

 NY Mets

J. Reyes ss
P. Lo Duca c
C. Beltran cf
C. Delgado 1b
D. Wright 3b
S. Green rf
C. Woodward 2b
E. Chavez lf
J. Maine p

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 28 2006 11:58 AM

Same lineup as yesterday, except that Endy was 2nd yesterday and DiFelice was 8th.

DiFelice misses his chance to start and we get an extra game out of Sleazy Redass.

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 12:06 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
DiFelice misses his chance to start and we get an extra game out of Sleazy Redass.


We know how much Omar likes to build up the bullpen, but are you telling us he just signed John Rocker?

Later

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 12:16 PM

Maine gives up a lead off double to J-Roll.

Voctorino grounds out hard to short-
Utley draws the walk.

1st and 2nd, 1 out to that ever dangerous Ryan Howard.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 12:20 PM

Whew--Howard just misses one to left center.
Rollins tags to 3rd.

Maine gets Burrell to hit into a questionable force at second.
Phils dont score.

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 12:20 PM

anybody have a link to MLB audio that has today's games up? I'm shutout looking at yesterdays games.

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 12:25 PM

Moyer's changeup and command (he uses all edges of the strike zone) can be tough the first time you face him. I hope David can have a good game to bail out some of the lefty hitters in the lineup.

Later

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 12:26 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
anybody have a link to MLB audio that has today's games up? I'm shutout looking at yesterdays games.


Cant say that I do.

Reyes with a wicked lineout to left.
LoDuca with a hard lineout to 1st.
Beltran pops out to short.

0-0 after one.

Willets Point
Aug 28 2006 12:30 PM

So this is a Lipstick Lesbian game.

Willets Point
Aug 28 2006 12:32 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
anybody have a link to MLB audio that has today's games up? I'm shutout looking at yesterdays games.


The MLB.tv page is listing yesterday's game but if you go to the Media Center page [url]http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mediacenter/index.jsp#20060828[/url] there are links to tv and audio.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 12:33 PM

Maine gets the Phils 1-2-3 in the 2nd.
Catcher Coste did work him in his at-bat but ends up weakly popping to short.

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 12:34 PM

Thanks!!!

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 12:37 PM

Delgado doubles to lead off the 2nd. A smash to the gap in right center, one hop off the wall.

Damn-when Delgados locked in his hitting looks so effortless.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 12:40 PM

Wright didnt look so good in that at-bat.
He was trying to hit it to right, to at least move CarlosD over.
He had some nice pitches with which to do so.
But he fouls em off and then pops out to Utley in shallow right.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 12:45 PM

Green and Woody cant get Delgado home.

Still 0-0 - each team has one hit. Both doubles.

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 12:46 PM

And Delgado dies at third on an inning ending K by Woodward.

Incidentally, Yahoo notes that the wind is blowing in from left at 13 mph.

EDIT: Single by Victorino. That guy is starting to piss me off.

Later

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 12:58 PM

MFS62 wrote:
And Delgado dies at third on an inning ending K by Woodward.

Incidentally, Yahoo notes that the wind is blowing in from left at 13 mph.

EDIT: Single by Victorino. That guy is starting to piss me off.

Later


The Phils dont take advantage the Victorino single.
Maine gets out of it.

In the Mets half they start to make things happen.

Chavez lead off single-
Maine bunts- Phils catcher Coste goes for Chavez at second and pulls Rollins off the bag- scored an error- all safe.
Reyes lays down a beautiful bunt and beats it out.
Bases loaded.


And Loduca slaps a grounder into right-past Ryan Howard who was screened by Reyes, and the Mets are on the board.

Bases still chucked for Beltran.

Edgy DC
Aug 28 2006 01:00 PM

Z, your avatar is broken and there's red x's everywhere.

Edgy DC
Aug 28 2006 01:01 PM

Bases loaded and somebody named Carlos up is generally a nice nice feeling.

Willets Point
Aug 28 2006 01:01 PM

Looks fine to me.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:03 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Z, your avatar is broken and there's red x's everywhere.


I can see it over here.
Maybe a glitch--it should work itself out.

Beltran hit into a force at the plate, then Delgado knocks one up the middle-Utley gets a glove on it and it goes into center.
Two runs score.

Wright hits a grounder off the 3rd base bag-called foul--now the umps are conferring.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:05 PM

Looks like they are gonna change that call--and Charlie Manual may just go off here.

seawolf17
Aug 28 2006 01:06 PM

It's times like this that the ESPN Game Cast sucks... it went to 2-0 on Wright, then I'm just sitting here.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:07 PM

And they do--Wright heads out to firstbase.
Beltran crosses the plate.

The grounder definatly looked like it hit the 3rd base bag- cuz it bounced off it to the left, into foul territory.

Manual argues but stays in the game.

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 01:07 PM

Yahoo still has a 1-0 count.
Later

duan
Aug 28 2006 01:08 PM

hah!

Angel Hernandez does something good for the mets!

David Wright gets an RBI

Willets Point
Aug 28 2006 01:08 PM

We were just sitting here too. The umps conferred for 7 minutes before awarding Mr. Wright a hit.

Angel Hernandez makes a controversial call in the Mets favor! I'm expecting Rod Serling to crawl out from behind the tarp.

seawolf17
Aug 28 2006 01:08 PM

Game Cast has the ball landing in foul territory for an RBI single, scoring Beltran; then it has Manuel getting ejected.

Hell, if they gave the other team an RBI single on a foul ball, I'd get ejected too.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:12 PM

Lemme amend that-CharlieM was tossed.
His 6th ejection of the season.

Green hits a line double one bounce off the wall in right and the Mets have batted around.
Delgado scores on the play.

Wright tags on Woodys fly out to center.

Chavez with the ground out ends the inning.

6-0 Mets

Rotblatt
Aug 28 2006 01:12 PM

Green with a double and Woody with a sac fly!

6-0 Mets, and Endy's back at the plate!

edit: touche, Zvon! ;-)

seawolf17
Aug 28 2006 01:14 PM

And the Mets have their fifth six-run inning of the year.

Fascinating Stat Of The Day
Scorin' Em In Bunches: As of right now, the Mets have scored three or more runs in an inning this year 84 times, almost as many times as they've scored "only" two (85 times).

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 01:20 PM

Pat Burrell continues his Met killing ways with a 2run dinger.

Rotblatt
Aug 28 2006 01:21 PM

Boo. Howard singles and Burrell hits a homer. Maine retires the next three in order.

6-2 Mets heading into the bottom of the fourth. Maine's at 76 pitches.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:21 PM

="seawolf17"]And the Mets have their fifth six-run inning of the year.

Fascinating Stat Of The Day
Scorin' Em In Bunches: As of right now, the Mets have scored three or more runs in an inning this year 84 times, almost as many times as they've scored "only" two (85 times).

That is fascinating.

A single by Howard followed by a boom by Burrell puts the Phils on the board.

6-2

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 01:22 PM

With all the abuse Howard has handed out, Pat the Bat is another reason the Mets don't want to see the Phillies in the playoffs.

Later

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 01:23 PM

Maine still looking for his first ML hit. Will be in 2006?

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 28 2006 01:23 PM

That was a heck of a 4th -inning rally. Few grounders go past and under gloves, a bad decision on a sac attempt and a goofy call all add up to 6 runs. Green's hit sounded like the only real legit shot of 'em all.

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 01:25 PM

Run Jose Run!!!!! 16th triple of the year.

Willets Point
Aug 28 2006 01:25 PM

MFS62 wrote:
With all the abuse Howard has handed out, Pat the Bat is another reason the Mets don't want to see the Phillies in the playoffs.

Later


Sure we do. So we can kick their asses.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:25 PM

Oh yea-Burrells getting better out there......looks like a fool on Reyes liner to left. Was that a dive or a lunge?
Reyes pulls into third with a :

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:27 PM

LoDuke promptly drives him in with a baseknock past a diving J-Roll.

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 01:28 PM

="Zvon"]Oh yea-Burrells getting better out there......looks like a fool on Reyes liner to left. Was that a dive or a lunge?
Reyes pulls into third with a :


Nice. Creative.

Sleazy is on a RBI binge today. 4th straight mutli hit game for Paul.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:29 PM

Hillbilly wrote:

Creative.

Thnx-
2 me that would be the ultimate compliment.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:32 PM

Hillbilly wrote:

Sleazy is on a RBI binge today. 4th straight mutli hit game for Paul.


Having a rippin 2nd half- MVP?
Maybe to me.

Willets Point
Aug 28 2006 01:34 PM

Not to Sonia.

Edgy DC
Aug 28 2006 01:34 PM

I'm all proud of the discipline I'm shoiwng by not tuning in, but I like to see triples to left.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:36 PM

Maine with a nice 1-2-3 fifth, and the game is now official.

7-2 Mets.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 28 2006 01:36 PM

Just a guess, but Burell must've been complicit, considering the descriptions of the sticky basepaths.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:37 PM

Willets Point wrote:
Not to Sonia.


lolwooooeeealol

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:39 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
Just a guess, but Burell must've been complicit, considering the descriptions of the sticky basepaths.


I really thought it was just a flat out error- but I aint complainin.
Ive had that triboom in my back pocket since the all star game.

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 01:40 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
Maine still looking for his first ML hit. Will be in 2006?

You would think that Maine would have a decent shot for it against Moyer. He throws at "pitchers' bat speed".
And they didn't pinch hit for Jamie. Are they trying to save their bullpen?

Later

Centerfield
Aug 28 2006 01:40 PM

We're official.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 28 2006 01:40 PM

Stupid work.

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 01:41 PM

Zvon wrote:
="Willets Point"]Not to Sonia.


lolwooooeeealol


Sonia went from soft porn pin-up to born again. Is it any surprise that her party boy husband strayed. Hey I'm not saying it's excusable, but that's a huge 180 degree turn for your wife to make.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:42 PM

Victorino robs Green in dead center with an over the shoulder grab of his deep drive.

Still 7-2 after five full.

seawolf17
Aug 28 2006 01:43 PM

Zvon wrote:
="Johnny Dickshot"]Just a guess, but Burell must've been complicit, considering the descriptions of the sticky basepaths.


I really thought it was just a flat out error- but I aint complainin.
Ive had that triboom in my back pocket since the all star game.

Zvon might be my favorite member of the Pool. No offense to anyone else.

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 01:43 PM

Maine threw 60 pitches through the first 3 innings, and now has 86 for the game through 5.
Anybody warming up?

Later

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 01:47 PM

MFS62 wrote:
Maine threw 60 pitches through the first 3 innings, and now has 86 for the game through 5.
Anybody warming up?

Later


Don't think so Maine has put down 9 straight since Burrells HR. The innings seems to coming easier since then too.

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 28 2006 01:47 PM

Has anyone ever seen a stat that tells the average number of pitches that a batter sees during a plate appearance?

I don't necessarily mean for a given pitcher, but for baseball as a whole?

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:48 PM

Maine with another incredibly smooth 1-2-3 inning.
He got Burrell that time.

Pat has 36 career homers against the Mets, one behind Barry Bombs.

He has 17 at Shea.

Willets Point
Aug 28 2006 01:48 PM

seawolf17 wrote:
="Zvon"]
="Johnny Dickshot"]Just a guess, but Burell must've been complicit, considering the descriptions of the sticky basepaths.


I really thought it was just a flat out error- but I aint complainin.
Ive had that triboom in my back pocket since the all star game.

Zvon might be my favorite member of the Pool. No offense to anyone else.


Maybe you two should get a room.

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 01:50 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
Has anyone ever seen a stat that tells the average number of pitches that a batter sees during a plate appearance?

I don't necessarily mean for a given pitcher, but for baseball as a whole?


They've been printing/ reporting that stat for Abreau, so somebody's counting it. But I don't know where its recorded/ available.

Later

Edgy DC
Aug 28 2006 01:51 PM

Willie's letting the rookie bat with 95 pitches under his belt, a five-run lead and 37 pitchers in the bullpen rested after a day off. Today he becomes a man.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:52 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
Has anyone ever seen a stat that tells the average number of pitches that a batter sees during a plate appearance?

I don't necessarily mean for a given pitcher, but for baseball as a whole?


I believe that I just heard recently that 15 to 17 1/2 would be the average for pitches per inning.
So-5 to 6 ?

seawolf17
Aug 28 2006 01:52 PM

MFS62 wrote:
="Yancy Street Gang"]Has anyone ever seen a stat that tells the average number of pitches that a batter sees during a plate appearance?

I don't necessarily mean for a given pitcher, but for baseball as a whole?


They've been printing/ reporting that stat for Abreau, so somebody's counting it. But I don't know where its recorded/ available.

Later

The rankings for batters (P/PA) are [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting?split=0&league=mlb&season=2006&seasonType=2&sort=pitchesPerPlateAppearance&type=exp&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=all]here[/url].

For pitchers, it's [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching?split=0&league=mlb&season=2006&seasonType=2&sort=pitchesPerPlateAppearance&type=pitch3&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=all]here[/url].

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 01:52 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Today he becomes a man.


Does this have something to do with those guys getting a room?

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 28 2006 01:54 PM

Well, that would assume that the average inning has three batters, which is impossible, since that's the minimum.

I wonder how many plate appearances there are in the average inning? I'd guess a little over four, but it's just a wild guess.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:57 PM

Coste doubles over Greens head in this, the 7th, which is more than likely Maines last inning of work.
Has Shawns head gotten smaller since he became a Met?
He cant seem to keep from running out from under his cap.


RHernadez is up.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 01:59 PM

Hillbilly wrote:
="Edgy DC"]Today he becomes a man.


Does this have something to do with those guys getting a room?


If the room has a big screen TV, SNY, and a keg of beer, Im there.

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 28 2006 01:59 PM

He mentioned that in the paper today. His black and blue cap is a little too big for him. He claims that his blue cap fits snugly, but he hasn't had a chance to wear it in a game yet.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2006 02:01 PM

Low P/PA guys are a little over 3 per, while high guys average near 4.5

So figure that it's around 3.75 - although the high guys might get more ABs than the low ones meaning that the overall weighted avg wouldn't necc be at the midpoint of the high & low. Prolly a shade under 4 is my guess.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 02:01 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
Well, that would assume that the average inning has three batters, which is impossible, since that's the minimum.

I wonder how many plate appearances there are in the average inning? I'd guess a little over four, but it's just a wild guess.


This is where it get too much for me.
Im horridable at anything mathish.


Maine makes way for RHernandez with 1 out in the 7th

seawolf17
Aug 28 2006 02:02 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
He mentioned that in the paper today. His black and blue cap is a little too big for him. He claims that his blue cap fits snugly, but he hasn't had a chance to wear it in a game yet.

We have an entire freaking stadium full of hats, and we can't find one that fits for the guy who makes eleven million dollars a year?!?!

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 02:04 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
He mentioned that in the paper today. His black and blue cap is a little too big for him. He claims that his blue cap fits snugly, but he hasn't had a chance to wear it in a game yet.


His head does look like a lil kids on an adults body tho, dont it?
Proportioniatly?

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 02:05 PM

Roberto just earned himself a cool one, and methinks Maine is buying. John left with two on, one out, and Hernandez got out of the inning without a run scoring.

Later

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 02:13 PM

Beltran hooks a wicked drive to the left field wall, towards the corner.
A foot short of a homer as it smacks off the wall and past a circling Burrell for a double.

And Beltran does his stealing 3rd base thing.
Phils announcers are ticked off that Beltran should be doin that with a 5 run lead.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 02:15 PM

Wright drives in CarlosB with a fly out to left.

Phils relief pitcher Castro had a streak of 17 scoreless inning up to that point.
Aint that ashame.
;)

seawolf17
Aug 28 2006 02:17 PM

Zvon wrote:
Beltran hooks a wicked drive to the left field wall, towards the corner.
A foot short of a homer as it smacks off the wall and past a circling Burrell for a double.

And Beltran does his stealing 3rd base thing.
Phils announcers are ticked off that Beltran should be doin that with a 5 run lead.

Hey, Phillies announcers... if you don't like it, then throw him out. Suckas.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2006 02:18 PM

Tell the Philly announcers that we'll promise to stop running just as soon as Ryan Howard promises to stop hitting grand slams.

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 02:26 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 28 2006 02:29 PM

WOW-Howard launches one.

Yep-we should keep runnin.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2006 02:27 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 28 2006 02:28 PM

Apparently we ain't got a deal.

Green lights for everyone!!

MFS62
Aug 28 2006 02:27 PM

Fukk, I hat that guy.

Later

Centerfield
Aug 28 2006 02:27 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Tell the Philly announcers that we'll promise to stop running just as soon as Ryan Howard promises to stop hitting grand slams.


As if on cue.

metirish
Aug 28 2006 02:28 PM

How many players won rookie of the year and the following year got MVP?

ScarletKnight41
Aug 28 2006 02:28 PM

Mota fans Burrell to end the top of the 8th.

Lundy
Aug 28 2006 02:32 PM

Cow-Bellman is more noticeable in a sparse crowd. And very annoying to listen to.

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2006 02:35 PM

="metirish"]How many players won rookie of the year and the following year got MVP?


Fred Lynn won both in the same year - for the '75 BoSox



2 more hits for Endy - both of LHPs

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 28 2006 02:36 PM

metirish wrote:
How many players won rookie of the year and the following year got MVP?


I can think of someone who won a ROY in 1984 and a Cy Young in 1985.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 28 2006 02:38 PM

Enter Sandman with a 5 run lead?

dinosaur jesus
Aug 28 2006 02:39 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
="metirish"]How many players won rookie of the year and the following year got MVP?


I can think of someone who won a ROY in 1984 and a Cy Young in 1985.


And should have won the MVP, too. They gave it to that Clemens kid the next year, and he wasn't nearly as good.

dinosaur jesus
Aug 28 2006 02:40 PM

Is this the Ron Hodges post?

ScarletKnight41
Aug 28 2006 02:40 PM

Hail!

seawolf17
Aug 28 2006 02:42 PM

HAIL!

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 02:42 PM

HAIL!

ScarletKnight41
Aug 28 2006 02:45 PM

Zvon
Aug 28 2006 02:49 PM

<books>

Willets Point
Aug 28 2006 02:53 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Willie's letting the rookie bat with 95 pitches under his belt, a five-run lead and 37 pitchers in the bullpen rested after a day off. Today he becomes a man.


Did he have to shoot his pet dog because it got rabies?

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 28 2006 03:06 PM

I thought he was being Bar Mitzvahed?

Edgy DC
Aug 28 2006 03:13 PM

So do the last two games crush the Phillies' spirits or re-double them.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 28 2006 03:17 PM

Crush may be too strong a word, but they certainly don't do anything for the Philies' cahnfidence.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 28 2006 03:18 PM

Well, they don't improve them, that's for sure.

Proud of how the Mets bounced back from a blah 1st game in this series and re-established themselves as the Phils' superior.

And John Vacationland: 3 starts against the Phils, 3 wins and a 1.99 ERA. Nice.

Edgy DC
Aug 28 2006 03:24 PM

Was Conine in the house?

Hillbilly
Aug 28 2006 03:33 PM

The cumulative effect of the season long consistency of the Mets can be clearly seen in the standings. The Mets are only 1 game behind Detroit for the best record in baseball.

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 28 2006 03:39 PM

I think the Phillies should be able to shrug off losing two of three to the Mets at Shea. I think this was their last game of the season against a team that currently has a winning record. Their wild-card position is still pretty good, and they can be masters of their fate (if not their domains) with a strong September.

duan
Aug 28 2006 03:56 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
I think this was their last game of the season against a team that currently has a winning record.


this season that means that this is their last game of the season against the mets and not much else!

metirish
Aug 28 2006 06:29 PM

I just heard that there was only 8000+ at the game today...rain outs suck.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 28 2006 06:32 PM

[url=http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2006/8/28/2273029.html]Greg's Description of Wright's Disputed Single[/url]

Classic!

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2006 10:57 PM

That single was maybe the strangest call I've ever seen - essentially for being the schoolyard-type compromise that Greg talks about.

1) Calling it foul makes it a dead ball which affects everything afterward: runners stop running, fielders stop chasing, ballgirl picks the thing up, yyybbb
That's why the NFL sticks to its "whistle was blown" explanation. It drives football fans nuts but it's chaos any other way since the genie can't be put back into the bottle.

2) On what basis did they base the reversal?
I guess the 3rd base ump doesn't actually see it but figures he needs to call something so gives it his best guess. But at what point does he decide to seek help after the fact?

Not that I minded the result but I don't like the process.
It reminds me of the type of "split-the-baby" calls that the NFL refs make all the time when they're winging it because they can't figure out what else to do. Declaring it to be a single because ... well because it pisses off each side only a little bit instead of one side totally (would have been a double if called correctly from the start, but a foul ball had they stuck to their first instinct) just reeks of making it up as you go along.