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Naming the new Stadium.

metirish
Aug 30 2006 11:18 AM

We had this thread last year I think,anyway over the past several days I've read in local newspapers how the Mets should" do the right thing" and name the new stadium after Jackie Robinson,now that the USTA has spurned millions and named the tennis center after Billie Jean King the media seem to think that the Mets should too,King thinks they should name it after Robinson.

My problem with this is that although Rosinson did great things for the game he never played for the Mets.I dunno I just think if the Mets don't take the money(they will) then there are more worthy people to name the stadium after.

It seems to me that some in the media are looking to the Mets to honour the legacy of Robinson,but MLB does that every year.

soupcan
Aug 30 2006 11:22 AM

Hodges or Murphy Field at (insert ever changing corporate name here) Stadium.

I vote for MetLife to be the first corporate sponsor. It just seems natural.

metirish
Aug 30 2006 11:23 AM

Or if they wanted to kill two birds with one stone go with these guys.

http://www.robinsonoil.com/

MFS62
Aug 30 2006 11:34 AM

There was a lot of discussion on the Mike and the Mad Dog show yesterday about which NY baseball fans became Mets fans. Russo (flying solo yesterday) said they were folks who had originally rooted for the NY Giants, and added that Brooklyn fans became Yankee fans.

He could not have been more wrong. The Giants had, at one point, been a successful, winning franchise. Those fans (who wanted to root for a National League team) either followed the fortunes of their old team on the West Coast (for a while, SF games were broadcast bask to NY) or gravitated to another NL team (there were rumors at the time that the Reds would be moving to New York). Besides, Yankee Stadium is only one additional subway stop away from the Polo Grounds where the Giants had played. It was geographically reasonable that Manhattanites (and other Giant fans) would look toward the Bronx to fill their baseball needs.

On the other hand, the Brooklyn team had a long history of being loveable losers. It was very natural that they took to the early Mets in droves. And Brooklyn is closer to Queens (the home of the Mets) than is the Bronx.

What has this got to do with the naming of the new stadium?
Plenty.

Owner Fred Wilpon had been a Brooklyn Dodger fan. So much so that the new Mets ballpark has been designed to have the "look and feel" of Ebbitts Field. He doesn't need the extra royalty money. Jackie, being the person who broke the color line, was to many the very reason many New Yorkers became fans of the National League in general, and specifically fans of the Brooklyn Dodgers. (I remember reading a demographic study conducted at the time) And it is for that reason that I believe he will name it after Jackie Robinson, without any associated Corporate name.

Later

metirish
Aug 30 2006 11:38 AM

But the Wilpons have said they will look for a corporate sponsor.

MFS62
Aug 30 2006 11:40 AM

metirish wrote:
But the Wilpons have said they will look for a corporate sponsor.

Then I guess the one you linked is a sgood as any.
Or Met Life.

sigh
I hope he doesn't. Jackie Robinson Stadium at __________ Park will water down any intended tribute.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2006 11:41 AM

Yeah, I'm afraid it'll be corporate.

My current guess: Estadio de Banco Popular

metirish
Aug 30 2006 11:43 AM



sigh
I hope he doesn't. Jackie Robinson Stadium at __________ Park will water down any intended tribute.



I guess what I really want to know is there is need for a tribute,wouldn't honoring Kiner or Murphy be a better tribute.

d'Kong76
Aug 30 2006 11:45 AM

I think stuff like Jackie should be honored in the new stadium, but with some-
thing a lot more low key than naming the whole park after a Dodger. While I feel
a small kinship to the Brooklyn team because my Mother used to share memories
of being a fan with her father - I think the Mets have enough history at this point
on their own not to be draggin' the Dodgers into it, who let's face it, fucked NY.

A more interesting disucssion to me would be who else should be honored? By
honored I mean with statues or walkways and thoroughfares. Gates maybe?
The corporate sponsor is inevitable ... it's big bucks!

Shea, Seaver, Gil, Casey, Kiner, Murphy ... who else?

seawolf17
Aug 30 2006 11:48 AM

Bob Murphy Stadium.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2006 11:49 AM

I wouldn't want to honor Kiner and Murphy without also honoring Lindsey Nelson.

cooby
Aug 30 2006 11:49 AM

Mets Park at Beatle Point

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2006 11:50 AM

Forget the Mets. They should just honor the Beatles.

Or they can combine the two and call it Strawberry Field.

metirish
Aug 30 2006 11:51 AM

I'm with KC on this,Wilpon could generate $10 million a year for naming rights,Murph,Kiner and Nelson should be honored,Pete Flynn should have the grounds shed named after him.

cooby
Aug 30 2006 11:51 AM

Excellent Yancy

d'Kong76
Aug 30 2006 11:54 AM

Nelson too ... my bad ... Gary Cohen is gonna be so jealous.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2006 12:00 PM

They should put Ralph, Lindsey, and Bob's faces on the new stadium like Manny, Moe, and Jack on Pep Boys.

MFS62
Aug 30 2006 12:02 PM

Then, as a tribute to the history of New York Baseball, I'd want Casey Stengel Field.
And, it would be a kick in the arse to that "team of tradition" that plays in the Bronx. George would have a fit.

Later

d'Kong76
Aug 30 2006 12:05 PM

Agreed that Flynn deserves something too, and I don't mean Doug.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 30 2006 12:16 PM

Mrs. Payson should be honored. If Bill Shea was honored by the first stadium for bringing National League baseball back to New York, Mrs. Payson should be honored by the new one.

metirish
Aug 30 2006 12:21 PM

No way a stadium should be named after a woman...

seawolf17
Aug 30 2006 12:22 PM

Why not?

cooby
Aug 30 2006 12:22 PM



Right on, sister.


Young man, you should be ashamed!

metirish
Aug 30 2006 12:24 PM

Ahh I was only taking the piss.

Payson's Playhouse.

cooby
Aug 30 2006 12:25 PM


I like it

d'Kong76
Aug 30 2006 12:26 PM

They should put that Payson logo on all the concession cups ... what a hottie.

cooby
Aug 30 2006 12:27 PM


Thank you young man. And happy belated birthday. I was getting my hair done that day and missed it.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 30 2006 12:31 PM

metirish wrote:
No way a stadium should be named after a woman...


Perhaps we could just name the dugouts after her ;)

metirish
Aug 30 2006 12:33 PM



Perhaps we could just name the dugouts after her ;)


Perfect,that's who I was thinking about when I posted.

SK you are creeping closer to Seaver status.

metsmarathon
Aug 30 2006 12:43 PM

if you really want george to have a fit, install a "steinbrenner alley"









as the urinal trough in a dirty mens room.

(was that too mean?)

slightly tangential - i hate urinal troughs. whoever came up with that idea should be hung.

HahnSolo
Aug 30 2006 01:41 PM

Plumbers Pipefitters and Sprinkler-Fitters Stadium!
The Polo(TM) by Ralph Lauren Grounds

I'm really not opposed to a corporate name, but get someone who's going to stick around for a while. The Giants ballpark is on its third name in 7 seasons. That would suck. Talk about not having an identity, though I guess people still call it PacBell.

The Met Life suggestion is the best one I've heard (and they are already a long-time sponsor).

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2006 01:43 PM

Is there a local company with a name that sounds like a person's name?

The Brewers can at least pretend that their stadium name isn't a corporate one.

(There are probably other examples too, but I can't think of any.)

Or maybe Wilpon will go the Ted Turner route, or will ask himself, "What would Donald Trump do?" and we'll end up with Wilpon Field.

Willets Point
Aug 30 2006 01:47 PM

Willets Point Base Ball Grounds.

dinosaur jesus
Aug 30 2006 02:07 PM

Che Stadium, named after the famed guerilla leader Che Stadium.

soupcan
Aug 30 2006 02:07 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
Is there a local company with a name that sounds like a person's name?

"What would Donald Trump do?" and we'll end up with Wilpon Field.


You answered your own question - Trump Parq.

metirish
Aug 30 2006 02:11 PM

The MFY are lucky that with all the great and wonderful history they can't use a corporate name.

Willets Point
Aug 30 2006 02:13 PM

metirish wrote:
The MFY are lucky that with all the great and wonderful history they can't use a corporate name.


Well, from the way they run things the franchise IS a corporation with "Yankees" as their brand.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 30 2006 02:14 PM

dinosaur jesus wrote:
Che Stadium, named after the famed guerilla leader Che Stadium.


soupcan
Aug 30 2006 02:16 PM

metirish wrote:
The MFY are lucky that with all the great and wonderful history they can't use a corporate name.


I'll lay odds that the Yankees new place has a corporate name attached to it.

Citibank Field at Yankee Stadium sounds about right.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2006 02:17 PM

Good point.

Why can't the Mets take that same approach?

Two things (among many) that I hate about corporate names:

Sometimes they just sound awful. 3Com Park is a prime example.

They can change far too often. It gets hard to know how to refer to the place.

In the UMDB I ignored corporate names that were given to existing stadium. Riverfront, Candlestick, Skydome, etc. kept their original names.

I'm not sure what to do about the parks in San Francisco and Houston that have changed a couple of times already. I've been thinking about looking up their street addresses and using them.

silverdsl
Aug 30 2006 02:20 PM

soupcan wrote:


I'll lay odds that the Yankees new place has a corporate name attached to it.
Me too. I'd be surprised if the Mets didn't explore some similar options regarding the naming rights to their new stadium too. I really can't blame any team that goes that route since it's such a good opportunity to bring in a lot of revenue that way.

DocTee
Aug 30 2006 08:57 PM

urinal troughs. whoever came up with that idea should be hung.


No doubt he was.